This disgraceful time actually showed me how proud I am to be Catholic and how strong my faith actually is. Will never leave the faith. Hope people are brought to justice and we the church will rise above and learn from this 💔
Except like usual you won't, Huge Trump supporters Catholics are , A man accused of many sexual allegations and what did you guys do?, cheer him all the way, while your pope is trying to adjust this cult of bigotry into a more modern era, he gets criticize, you will find more criticism of him then of Trump from Catholics, because the problem isn't the dogma, Is the institution that accommodates bigots, sexual offenders, con men, and hypocrites, THAT.. is alive and well in your church, am sorry to tell you.
@@hexsal2763 I didn't know I was a Trump supporter. I'm (not) surprised at how well you "know" all of us Catholics. Thank you for supporting this channel by the way. 👍🏼👍🏼
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I've been waiting for this episode :) I'm a young Catholic from the Philippines and I thank you all for reaffirming my thoughts on the matter. I pray that we all can still be positive and be more brave enough to protect everyone. God bless us all.
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My faith is in Christ, not a priest or the pope. I am extremely disappointed in the leadership of our Church right now. I'm trying to trust in Christ and that he has a plan, but it's hard when you see priests, bishops and cardinals betraying the faith and being allowed to do it with no apparent consequences.
Evil always attack the people close to Jesus. Remember what Judas and Martin Luther did. I am also disgusted with the scandals, but the eucharist... You can never find it anywhere else. Peter is still where Jesus built His church.
A lot of them, perhaps a majority of the bishops are in denial. This is typical of all rulers who are inclined to cut their losses until the wolf is literally at their door. How they could watch mass attendence dwindle from 70% to less than half than number and not see this as example of disaster astounds me.
It sounds like you are leaning Protestant, I was recently feeling the same way after all of the news came out, but we can’t abandon the Church to corruption. It needs good people. Jesus did not run from the devil, he refused him, and so we as Catholics must do similarly.
I am in RCIA this year. I am blessed with a wonderful priest that has cried with me in Confession. While the news made me very sad, it wasn't as surprising to me, coming from a Protestant background. I will pray harder for the Church and Protestants now.
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven (John 14:6). If you believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and call upon his name with a contrite heart, he will save you from the lake of fire. Get saved and come out of Babylon while you still have the chance.
Having been abused as a boy I carry Stark resentment toward many people. Mostly I'm angry with people that take advantage of children. The Catholic Church has been complicit it keeping these priest monsters abusing. There's still new cases coming to light and everytime there is, it's proof of just how broken the system is.
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven (John 14:6). He loved you so much that he was willing to die for you on the cross at Calvary (Romans 5:8 & John 3:16-18) If you believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and call upon his name with a contrite heart, he will save you from the lake of fire. I will be praying for you.
Cried several times watching this. This is SUCH an important topic. We NEED action. We NEED mercy. THANK YOU to Tatiana, Joe, and Patrick for opening up and sharing their thoughts, stories, and selves. Church, faithful, and audience: we are praying for you.
We wish you,oh you young people and followers of the Lord , a joyful (and certainly a successful) resurrection in the flesh without - what you might consider- undue delay. How happy you must be to see The Lord so soon with all your youthful health and contagious enthusiam, whereas we have to stay back on this dismal Planet waiting for the next tsunami,hurricane or asteroid-impact.
@@tryhardf844 So your good loving god did not drown animal babies?and human babies, and pregnant women? He had no alternative but to kill?You pathetic apologetic religiot. Your well-speaking benedictum is so ridiculouslMay your god show Himself to you.Please record and distribute worldwide.Muchas Gracias.
@@annemburada6265 No he did not drown babies kill pregnant women or cause sodomy. The sodomy is caused by the heretical viewpoints of people that to this day dont denounce pedophilia and rape and stay silent. Francis is a scumbag and benedict 16 was a dummy and many other popes as well. I was not born yesterday.I am a cristian catholic after all. The same people who think that the clergy is full of pedophiles are the same ones who approve of changing the gender of a child at 3 YEARS OLD,let alone a 12 year old/9 year old DRAG QUEEN. So youre a hipocrite? Make sure to change that diaper of yours sweetheart,unless you are waiting for Epstein to do it for you.Dios te Bendiga. BTW: This channel is not honest and good.I dont like it,so there.
Can I also just say how much I appreciate not only how open and honest these lovely people are, but also how insightful, especially given their age. You can tell they are filled by the Holy Spirit.
Just last week, I got baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church and this issue never stopped me from converting to the Church. And people often ask me ‘why not?’. Well, the answer is always: ‘It’s like comparing apples and oranges’. Faith is not defined by those who are with authority in the Church. The reputation may have been damaged but definitely not the faith. Converting to the Church is something I do not and will not regret in my life. I’m not sure who said this but I think it’s very accurate: ‘Strong Protestants become Catholics and weak Catholics become Protestants.’
This really hurts, I love the Catholic church. I could never leave it, but it has greatly shaken my faith in how the Bishops and Cardinals can handle situations like this. Great video NCG.
My faith did not waver because there is a difference between Catholicism as a faith and the Catholic Church as an institution. Just because I follow and observe the Catholic faith doesn't mean I automatically condone everything that every member of the institution of the Church does. It would be the same as saying I condone what the nazis did just because I'm German. I thank God for the lovely priests I have in my life and the examples of the Saints I can follow. However, I'm also extremely disappointed about how the Church handles these cases and I am outraged that these things continue to happen. They are NOT Catholic, they are NOT Biblical, they are NOT what Jesus would want and they are simply an outrage.
Nothing, and I mean nothing would ever shake my faith in the Church. I was however in Baltimore with the Church Militant to pray for the Bishops and hold them accountable.
Shouldn't your faith actually be IN GOD? The Scriptures says NOTHING about"faith" in any church,Eric F. Didn't Jesus Himself command us in John 17 to"Have faith in God" ?? 🤨🤨🤨
@@lcringo3498 The Church is the bride of Christ. My faith is in God, Jesus Christ. "And I will build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it". Try reading the whole Bible and not just the parts that fit your beliefs
@@ericf5978 Is that your answer, Eric F? "Read the whole Bible " How is that apropos to anything? Show me in Scripture where we are instructed to have faith in any church? WE ARE THE CHURCH!! Our faith is to be in the God of the Church, our Saviour and Lord, Jesus the Christ; THAT is what the whole Bible teaches....try again, my friend...! 😊
I loved your candor. This crisis is both unfathomable and yet all too human. We need to make this right, but we need to do it with a desire for justice and right, not vengeance.
My opinion is pretty similar to what's already been expressed. I am highly disappointed, but my faith has always been in Christ, not the clergy. Having a historical perspective here can sometimes help, as it helped me to realise that this isn't the first time we've had bad clergy. God Willing, we'll endure through this, even if we have to shrink in size (at least in the West).
I don't see why I would need to leave the church because of the scandal. If anything, those offenders should be the ones leaving. The church is the people. In these trying times I believe that it's more important to stick together.
Guys you have a great channel, thank you for being a source of inspiration for so long. I am no longer Catholic. I only wish to say one thing: Don't leave the church lead it. This talking point hangs responsibility of the crisis on laity, and the bishops and priests in on it laugh all the way to the collection basket.
To everyone that thinks that the church is horrible and that Catholics are horrible please let me remind you that it is the people, as the people in the video said. The church never taught us to rape children or to molest them or abuse them. It is broken horrible people that do it not the church’s teachings. I don’t know his name but the guy explaining @3:15 explained it perfectly
If those church leaders who did horrible things truly had the Holy Spirit dwelling in them to begin with, they wouldn't have done what they did. And no it's not a single mistake from being tempted or something, that's not the big problem. The bigger problem is choosing to live in sin without any conviction whatsoever. This is why it says in the bible to test each spirit, if they truly have the fruits of the Holy Spirit in them. Now we know they didn't. But it's not too late to repent and truly surrender to Jesus and make Him their Lord and Saviour. I pray by God's grace they really turn around.
PandaDJ Girls raping children is the lest of their crimes! But it’s never gonna stop until Christ comes back and destroys the catholic organization and your eyes will never shut because you’re going to be trying to figure out how they deceived so badly! Most likely in purgatory but hopefully not because then it’s definitely to late for you because purgatory is hell. But Christ isn’t going to have mercy on you unless you leave before this happens otherwise all the plagues written in the scriptures will be added to you! You guys have changed lots of things in the scriptures and that alone is enough to send to hell for all eternity. I can prove this to you by just using your own bibles. Read revelation 22:18-19 and find out what happens to those who do that, and those who follow those people will receive the same consequences!
Beautifully done. We are a Church in pain. In sadness. In anger. The victims of this abuse must be aided and never blamed. The perpetrators must never be put in authority ever again, yet we , as Christians are obligated to forgive them someday. Any kind of sexual predator needs to be marked and watched, never being allowed access to potential victims. The caveat being that we should never support a witch hunt: let's learn a lesson from our Protestant brothers and sisters. Peace be with you all.
I am a Filipino Roman Catholic, Legion of Mary member, and choir. When I saw this video I rejoiced even though the subject is sensitive I liked their response. The priest only sins not the whole church. May the Lord clean His church
A few things i been thinking about recently: 1. Has this always occured in the church, or is it just a 20th century phenomenon? 2. If it is a 20th century phenomenon, then what are the causes? 3. Why has it been an almost worldwide phenomenon, what's going on here? 4. Was the church deliberately infiltrated by peadophiles, or did the priests become peadophiles due to their own weakness? 5. How could people remain silent when this is one of the worst and lowest sexual crimes you could possibly commit? 6. Does this have anything to do with homosexuals, Vatican 2, the sexual revolution, etc....? 7. Was celibacy a cause? 8. There have always been bad priests, but they were never tolerated, so why was it tolerated in the 20th century? Was it simply the lowering of standards due to secular culture? Just some thoughts.
A helpful and balanced commentary which sets out how the individual can make sense of the abuse of power. However you wrap it , this is about an individual (s) abusing their position . The way forward is in my view to integrate women into the church at all levels to lead the Church forward and to provide the balance that enables safeguarding through equality of power between men and women .
It didn't shake my faith, it just moved me to pray for the Church even more. There are plenty of faithful and holy priests to whom we can get the Sacraments from, pray for them as well.
What scares me is before all of this scandal release stuff I prayed to God and asked him to get all of the bad people caught who hurt little ones and now all of these are coming about.
Your successful intervention with God shows: The end is near.We wish you,oh you young people and followers of the Lord , a joyful (and certainly a successful) resurrection in the flesh without - what you might consider- undue delay. How happy you must be to see The Lord so soon with all your youthful health and contagious enthusiam, whereas we have to stay back on this dismal Planet waiting for the next tsunami,hurricane or asteroid-impact.
This is one of the reasons why i can't get behind Christianity or Abrahamic religions not just because its hypocrisy its teachings in the Bible that support Meat eating drinking alcohol. And other cruel nonsensical theology. And its condemnation against other religions and gay people. And simply because the Hindu scriptures of my Religion Hinduism Veads the Gita Upanishads written long before Christianity existed. In comparison make Christianity seem backwards crude superstitions
Evil always attack the people close to Jesus. Remember what Judas and Martin Luther did. I am also disgusted with the scandals, but the eucharist... You can never find it anywhere else. Peter is still where Jesus built His church.
The teachings of the faith is true they do not come from man but are Divinely Revealed by the Holy Spirit to man. People tend to forget that the clergy are men imperfect sinners like everyone else capable of committing sin even St. Peter denied he knew Christ three times. It's the office they hold which came from Christ which is holy that doesn't nessisary mean the man that holds that office. Even Judas Iscariot was an Apostle he preached the Gospel, healed the sick and drove out demons in Christ's name but yet he betrayed Christ. That office Judas Iscariot held was no less holy than any of the other offices of the Apostles.
Very powerful video. What makes me very sad is the fact that we (as the society in general) stopped trusting others. I know it's hard to trust a person who has commited a crime, even if we are not the victims. But because of the scandals not only priests or teachers, but basically any person who is being friendly towards a child is regarded with suspicion. I get the thing about signs and that maybe some of the abuse could have been stopped if someone took a closer look on things. But this still terrifies me that we don't trust others anymore, that we see a hidden meaning in nearly every friendly gesture towards children (like being alone with the child in a car)...
My brain kept processing the topic whole day, so I have some (or rather MANY) more thoughts on this. I'd like to hear what other people think about my ideas (if anyone has enough patience to read all of them). I was thinking about the trust issue. I mean, being distrustful after someone hurt you is understandable, but is teaching distrust a really good way to prevent sexual abuse of children? As I am not a victim of it, I can't say with 100% certainty, but from what I've read distrust may cause bigger problems. I mean, if a child knows that he or she can ALWAYS, no matter what, in ABSOLUTELY any case go to their mother, father, older sibling, grandparent etc. and tell them that they don't feel comfortable around some adults, that someone has done something strange to them etc., and be sure that their concerns will be heard and treated seriously, then the pedophil has smaller chance of keeping the abuse secret. I see it mostly as a matter of trust and respectful upbringing. It's something we as catholics struggle with, maybe because of traditional view on family, in which children are basically a property of their parents. What I mean is that parents want their children to be polite and extremely obedient, especially to their elders. I say that this is a catholic (but not only!) problem, because as far as I know the revolution in upbringing that gave voice to the children was generally non-religious, so many catholics (at least here in Poland) think that being respectful to your child and admitting he or she has rights is practically the same as saying "go ahead, don't respect anyone, don't believe in anything, do what you want". I'm saying all of this because I don't believe we need more distrust and control to prevent sexual abuse from happening. What I've learned from the attachment parenting sources is that what matters the most is: respecting child's boundaries (e.g. not forcing the child to kiss grandma, teaching the child that he or she can always say "stop touching me" and they should be obeyed - of course we're not talking about dire situations like when the child has to be immediately diagnosed by a doctor, but such situation should also be explained to the child), listening to the child and not assuming at once that he or she is lying (not having punishments also helps - I hear that abusers often tell the child that if they say anything to their parents, they will be punished, either because the parents will think they're lying or because the abuse is something good and the child shouldn't complain), teaching them not to have secrets with other people (it's ok if the child just don't want to tell their parents something, but they should know that they CAN tell them anything; surprises are also ok - they differ from secrets, because they are from the beginning meant to become known), not telling them that they shouldn't speak to strangers (when the child needs help and their family isn't there, it SHOULD be able to go to someone - like a policeman or some other family passing by - even if they don't know the people). I don't know - maybe that's something you also learn on the courses that were mentioned in the video. Just looking for a signs of abuse has two big flaws - firstly, it doesn't prevent the abuse, only its continuation, and secondly it makes you very suspicious, maybe even paranoic. The respectful upbringing also has a flaw in this context - it does not help children that have already been teached to always be obedient and quiet. Maybe these two methods should be connected (at least until the attachment parenting becomes widely popular). Whoa. I hope that makes sense. Also, thank you, Tatiana, for sharing your story. I'm quite lame in comforting people, but I know that sometimes thinking of people who wish me well helps me in my troubles, so I just want to let you know that I wish you well. (Lame as I said...) I hope my English is understandable... and my thoughts readable.
This video is good but I feel like y'all are missing the heart of the issue a bit....The wolves in sheep's clothing are all throughout the hierarchy of the church, even up to the Cardinals...
God did not absolve the Levitical Priesthood after the sins of Nadab & Abihu or Eli's sons. He did not dissolve The Church when we sold indulgences. When I was a kid, my family moved to a new city every other year. Not once was my mother ever concerned. She realized that the Spotlight Bias Fallacy would accomplish nothing.
I wasn’t really shocked by these scandals. I’m not even sure that I felt much at all - there have been so many terrible things that have been happening in the Church lately that I was too emotionally and psychologically exhausted to deal with this new one properly. At the most, I just walked around in some kind of vaguely angry daze for about a week. I have a very deep rage about everything that has been going on overall, however, which is not helped by the feeling that the bishops and the Pope have betrayed and abandoned me and all of their people. I’m not entirely sure what to do with all of this; I usually just rage-watch videos of people talking about these problems so at I can feel like I know what’s going on.
Do you feel that the monastery should consider Act 33 & Act 34 clearances as well as an FBI background check as a prerequisite towards excepting new students?
Scandal is from going past what is Written, for The Holy Bible never tells to be influential in harm. For example, broken trust of those who interfere in any way, shape, or form with husband & wife. It is just harmful & unkind, for those who play God, over other's lives. So sad. Peace
If you want to know how it all started, look up Bella V. Dodd. She testified before the US Congress in 1953 and explained the entire situation, where it started and who these people were. We are dealing with the effects of it now. Understanding this is the key to ending the scandal for good.
"The investigation found that more than 300 Catholic priests across Pennsylvania alone had sexually abused children for decades." -That is incorrect. The investigation reported that there were over 300 allegations of sex abuse of minors since 1930. That's a huge difference!
Maybe what could help all those who lost their faith is understanding that the only Perfect Priest is Jesus Christ. He is the Only One who can heal the wounds caused by these priests who have scandalized the Catholic Church. Another thing that made me keep Catholic is that we don't need to expect the holiness of priests for the Eucharist to be a valid sacrament. All we need is that this priest is connected to his Diocesan Bishop. So, let's focus in Jesus, in the Perfectness of the Eucharist. Let us focus in Our Lady who intercedes for each of Her Children who were abused. Let us remember that Our Lady is still interceding for the abusers and the abused people. Let's wait for the Heart of Mary to triumph! May Mary, Mother of the Church intercede for all those who lost their faith! Mary Mother of the Church wrap in Your Maternal Mantle all those who need Your welcoming Love to be healed! Amen
This kind of abuse is also happening in other organisations which don't get the media coverage. This catastrophe is proof of how evil humans can be and why we need the Savior.
I think that if you had a child. And your kid grows up. And your kid who is now an adult commit a terrible crime. I really cannot tell that I could stop loving my kid. That does not mean would avoid justice to be serve. If you think this, imagine then how much more can be the love God have.
It definitely is easy to hide the fact you aren't "authentically holy", especially to young children. It doesn't matter at all if you personally can spot a dodgy priest, vulnerable people can't .
A part of me wonders if this might do us some good in the long run. I think when the Church becomes too big, its leaders forget about humility and the true message of the Gospel. I foresee our Church becoming smaller but having people who are true to the faith. That might be better as I feel like the Catholic Church may be going through a pruning period. Time to show the rot and take it out! We, as the Catholic laity, need to stand up, pray up and become saints and save our Church ala St. Catherine, St. Francis of Assisi and other great saints.
if they were married none of this would have happened ! why make priests suffer without wives AS IF they were not human, in the first place....... what do you expect them to do. ASCEND ?
Those happen to be significant dates. 1958, death of Pius XII and you get what nearly all Sedevacantists consider as Antipopes publically shown as Popes. 1950, the year in which he issed Humani Generis, making a "Honorius" move about the heresy of Adam bodily descending from other living organisms. (You know, like Honorius refused to condemn Monotheletism).
April Grace Because the Catholic Church has the Eucharist. I couldn’t leave Jesus for a watered down faith. And I’m a recent Catholic convert who was just received this Spring. My husband and I wrestled with whether or not to return to Protestantism but at the end of the day we couldn’t unlearn the truth and decided to stay and fight for justice as laity.
The church will never crumble and membership has not fallen. There are corrupt people in the church, but the church itself is not corrupt. There are no words for how awful these individuals are and there is absolutely no excuse for what they have done. But the church does not support these disgusting acts. There will always be bad people in the world but we are doing everything possible to prevent this from Happening again. It is now more than ever that we need to turn to God. My prayers for anyone struggling❤️
Sadly post-Pentecost, community church may have nothing to do with the state religion, Catholicism, that developed after the candlesticks were put out. I may have seen a place where the original is coming back to life and that can be found at twelvetribes.org.
Yes, Jesus Christ's Passion is very agonizing at this time in history; higher than ever... at just before 13:00 and then continues. The protection of children in the womb and outside of the womb should be much more paramount as John Paul ii inspired by The Holy Spirit, directed The Church for the salvation of souls. There are many reasons related to what you are saying here as to why there is so much reticence. Please read my other comment. Peace.
I basically compare this to the Renaissance era were most Catholics couldn't take the hierarchy serious. If you look at literature and poetry from that time it tends to be very saucy and provocative. The most popular piece of literature being the epic poem The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri. I got red pilled about Pope Francis and the state of the Church in 2014 going into the Synod of the family and never really turned back especially after Amoris Laetitia. I will always have my faith but I think as to what goes on in the Vatican and what comes from the Pope I don't care anymore or don't want to care anymore. I am sort of inside when it comes to the hierarchy and Catholic headlines. I liken it to having dysfunctional parents that are always drunk and will always let you down you just get used to it they're still your family you still love them but you don't expect much from them.
16:29 St Giovanni Bosco and Domenico Savio were close. I am not saying in a sexual way, one of them is canonised by Pope Pius XI (even if it was on April 1) but like "the dynamic duo" of Catholic pastoral back then in Turin area (I think they were in Torino). Supposing everyone back then had been on the outlook for "special focus" and "some kind of disordered relation" ... could their friendship have existed? I presume that canonisation _is_ valid. Are you sure the kind of measures that the classes are promoting are not part of what the devil has planned through this destructive work? Also, when _everyone_ is on the outlook for something, sometimes innocent people are accused of that something. In France or Belgium, two priests (or Vatican II clergy, their ordinations are presumably not valid) have committed suicide over being, presumably falsely accused. Btw, considering how many Anticatholic people who are presumably reading me, I expect some will try to pour smut on Domenico Savio - but I still think it needs to be written. Shrinks are NOT our experts in moral theology and also NOT our experts even on how to protect the innocent against this, that or sundry person who would be the real guilty one.
As you mentioned it being a "no no" for an adult and a child (unrelated as parent or uncle, I presume you mean) to spend time together alone, while I was abused by school mates in another way - harrassment, but really severe - a man whom I later came to distrust on other issues actually did comfort me while he was driving me in a car. He can have contributed to saving me from getting too depressed. He did cheer me up. If I hadn't back then been responsive to adults cheering me up (even if it was a childish trait and arguably has harmed me socially later), school with those other guys would perhaps have killed me, and "perhaps" is perhaps not the right word.
No. But St. John Bosco arguably was spending lots of time with him. And arguably it couldn't have happened in the climate of hysteria this crisis is promoting. One hint about abuse NOT being the case would at least be "do they have a legitimate common interest" (in St John Bosco's and Domenico Savio's case : saving souls and sanctifying themselves). And "inordinate amounts of time" cannot simply be determined from the amount of time. Could a common interest require it?
Agreed, but it goes farther back than that. Bella V. Dodd explained the entire situation in 1953 and wrote the book School of Darkness. She is the key to understanding it, and stopping it for good.
This is nothing new and sadly I am numb almost uncaring about pain misery and horrible acts of humanity also Lucifer has control over this world and can influence even holy men
It is not irony that the day the PA report came out was the day on which Fr. Maximillian Kolbe gave his life in Aushwitz so that a man with a family might live. Personally I think it nothing short of a message. I'm tired of going over this but in the last 15 years in Pa there have been three allegations of abuse/improprietry. In effect then in real terms the "scandal" ended 15 years ago. So has the church responded adequately to the needs of victims? I will say yes because the first spokesman to say something on the Stephanonpolous Sunday show said he had been offered a settlement that included a four year free ride for his children. I'm afraid this time around on the Scandal carousel is nearly all about anti catholic bigotry rather than new offenses. Keep the faith and have some joy about it. The biggest downer on this thing is the unwillingness of the church to defend it's self. On the upside by the time your my age the church will have gotten these no shows out of it' system and gotten a whole cohort of fresh unjaded types.
18:46 _"so that victimization of children doesn't happen again"_ You are aware school and harrassment is a more numerous victimization in numbers of victims than sexual predators, aren't you? Are you standing up against school compulsion?
Uh yes. All violence is against the fifth commandment and is an evil to be fought against. I'm homeschooled, Hans, so of course I don't like school compulsion. But this video is for the specific abuses of the Catholic Church and how we can be sure that children and vulnerable adults aren't abused in the Church, not about school safety.
I am glad at least one of you steps up for homeschooling. Some don't. I was specifically thinking of one recently "canonised" man who in "Gaudium et Spes" considered teachers as representatives of mankind / humanity to their pupils ....
There is still hope for you. Jesus Christ is your only way to heaven (John 14:6). He paid the price for your sins with his blood, on the cross at Calvary. If you believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and call upon his name with a humble, repentant, willing, and contrite heart sincerely, he will save you from the lake of fire. 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: (Romans 3:10) 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23) 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23) 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9) 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:13) 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18) Get saved today, while you still can, because there might not be another tomorrow. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. (Revelation 18:4-5)
Look I really think you guys are trying hard and coming from a good place, and as an Atheist I'm not the intended audience, this video isn't a good look for you, it's too cryptic and relies on the faith concept too much, I'm not here to harass anyone or try and convince anyone to abandon their faith, I just wanted to see the issue from this angle and found your response lacking
@@PatNeve I don't want to put words in your guy's mouths, if you don't feel it you shouldn't say it, it sounds very self focused and is presented as an issue that doesn't effect the world outside the church, which as this is not meant for general audiences I get that, but I doesn't seem right to treat the outside world as if it didn't happen to them as well, when one of the world's largest religions has a scandal like this it ripples throughout civilizations, the cryptic part is stuff like you can sense the holiness or long metaphors that bring more questions than answers such as why was the infection allowed to grow and that amputation can easily cause someone's self identity to change, mine did when I lost my fingertips on the pinky, ring, and middle finger of my right hand, the more pragmatic answers like the programs for watching out for this stuff were good, also more of anger and sadness I suspect ended up on the cutting room floor was warranted, these are just my observations and they are intended to help, believer or heathen (such as myself) should be concerned with this
@@zachkrake7169 you bring up a good point, we didn't really discuss how this affects people outside the Church, but, like you said, that's mostly because the video was for Catholics. That being said, you bring up a good point. This issue affected more than just people within the Church. I don't think the video denies that, it just doesn't touch on it.
@@PatNeve I'm probably reading too far into it but keeping these type of things this insular is partly how we ended up here in the first place, and I don't want this to continue, I think for your programs it would be a good idea to study why things like "Just say no" and D.A.R.E. campaigns fail, people are too easily convinced it couldn't happen to them
I think it is because Catholics thought that it couldn't happen to them that so many people are personally wounded by this news. Their Church that was a refuge now seems like another unsafe place. Think of it like a family of a suicide victim; they are shaken and need to be picked back up first before they can speak to others outside of the family to encourage them.
I actually just came back to the faith a month before the scandals. No it did not shake my faith because there is no salvation outside the church and there is no way to receive the sacraments (confession and communion especially) outside of it. This scandal has simply reaffirmed for me truths that every Catholic used to know, that there should not be homosexual priests for theirs is not a natural state of mind and thus cannot be relied on and they especially can't relate to an overwhelmingly heterosexual laity. How can a homosexual be called a "father"? It's time to stop being "nice" Catholics and simply state the truth, the world hated/hates Jesus for it, it will hate us as well who cares I don't hate gay people but they shouldn't be running our church. I think the Catholic church is destroying itself trying to appease the modern world and it might take a couple generations of pissed off Catholics to fix it but I guess my trust in our leaders has vanished for not speaking out against it especially the pope and his involvement/knowledge in the whole thing
The only thing that would shake my faith is if they change the teachings on same sex. If they ever change the teaching then I would leave Christianity altogether and become Jewish. That being said I don't believe they ever will. They are human beings and are not immune to temptation. I will not give to the bishops funds ever again. I will support my local parish.
Out of curiosity, how does the Church’s teaching on same sex prove or disprove the veracity of Jesus as Messiah? Jesus is the whole point/reason of Christianity, so I’m not sure what apples have to do with oranges. Would you mind sharing your thoughts on this? Definitely not trying to be rude or anything, I’m just interested in your thought process here.
Lion of Judah My question isn’t over whether Jesus is Messiah, it’s what does the teaching of same sex have to do with its validity. Determining Jesus as Messiah is something one comes to by doing their own research into the claims of Christ and prophecy he fulfilled. What I’m saying is, based on his statement, his faith in Christ is unshakable unless the Church changed its teachings on same sex relations. I don’t see what one has to do with the other and was asking for his reasoning. Hope that clarified my question.
This disgraceful time actually showed me how proud I am to be Catholic and how strong my faith actually is.
Will never leave the faith. Hope people are brought to justice and we the church will rise above and learn from this 💔
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Except like usual you won't, Huge Trump supporters Catholics are , A man accused of many sexual allegations and what did you guys do?, cheer him all the way, while your pope is trying to adjust this cult of bigotry into a more modern era, he gets criticize, you will find more criticism of him then of Trump from Catholics, because the problem isn't the dogma, Is the institution that accommodates bigots, sexual offenders, con men, and hypocrites, THAT.. is alive and well in your church, am sorry to tell you.
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I didn't know I was a Trump supporter. I'm (not) surprised at how well you "know" all of us Catholics.
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Savina Zúñiga if that happens then you wouldn’t have any priest to go confess too! 🤦🏼♂️
I've been waiting for this episode :)
I'm a young Catholic from the Philippines and I thank you all for reaffirming my thoughts on the matter. I pray that we all can still be positive and be more brave enough to protect everyone. God bless us all.
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I got disappointed but I will never leave the Catholic Church.
@ OK I did now what?
Kovačević Dobrina you are Croatian, are you not catholic?
My faith is in Christ, not a priest or the pope. I am extremely disappointed in the leadership of our Church right now. I'm trying to trust in Christ and that he has a plan, but it's hard when you see priests, bishops and cardinals betraying the faith and being allowed to do it with no apparent consequences.
Laura T. You could always become a Protestant ;)
Evil always attack the people close to Jesus. Remember what Judas and Martin Luther did.
I am also disgusted with the scandals, but the eucharist... You can never find it anywhere else. Peter is still where Jesus built His church.
lester andes Luther saved Christendom.
A lot of them, perhaps a majority of the bishops are in denial. This is typical of all rulers who are inclined to cut their losses until the wolf is literally at their door. How they could watch mass attendence dwindle from 70% to less than half than number and not see this as example of disaster astounds me.
It sounds like you are leaning Protestant, I was recently feeling the same way after all of the news came out, but we can’t abandon the Church to corruption. It needs good people. Jesus did not run from the devil, he refused him, and so we as Catholics must do similarly.
I am in RCIA this year. I am blessed with a wonderful priest that has cried with me in Confession. While the news made me very sad, it wasn't as surprising to me, coming from a Protestant background. I will pray harder for the Church and Protestants now.
And you feel the need to pray for US(Protestants) because....? 😐🤨
Wait he did the stuff to underaged people?
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven (John 14:6). If you believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and call upon his name with a contrite heart, he will save you from the lake of fire. Get saved and come out of Babylon while you still have the chance.
Having been abused as a boy I carry Stark resentment toward many people. Mostly I'm angry with people that take advantage of children.
The Catholic Church has been complicit it keeping these priest monsters abusing. There's still new cases coming to light and everytime there is, it's proof of just how broken the system is.
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven (John 14:6). He loved you so much that he was willing to die for you on the cross at Calvary (Romans 5:8 & John 3:16-18) If you believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and call upon his name with a contrite heart, he will save you from the lake of fire. I will be praying for you.
Cried several times watching this. This is SUCH an important topic. We NEED action. We NEED mercy.
THANK YOU to Tatiana, Joe, and Patrick for opening up and sharing their thoughts, stories, and selves.
Church, faithful, and audience: we are praying for you.
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You are pathetic feeding on the youth like this with absolutly no biblical or historic enclousure.
@@tryhardf844 So your good loving god did not drown animal babies?and human babies, and pregnant women? He had no alternative but to kill?You pathetic apologetic religiot. Your well-speaking benedictum is so ridiculouslMay your god show Himself to you.Please record and distribute worldwide.Muchas Gracias.
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No he did not drown babies kill pregnant women or cause sodomy.
The sodomy is caused by the heretical viewpoints of people that to this day dont denounce pedophilia and rape and stay silent.
Francis is a scumbag and benedict 16 was a dummy and many other popes as well.
I was not born yesterday.I am a cristian catholic after all.
The same people who think that the clergy is full of pedophiles are the same ones who approve of changing the gender of a child at 3 YEARS OLD,let alone a 12 year old/9 year old DRAG QUEEN.
So youre a hipocrite?
Make sure to change that diaper of yours sweetheart,unless you are waiting for Epstein to do it for you.Dios te Bendiga.
BTW: This channel is not honest and good.I dont like it,so there.
Can I also just say how much I appreciate not only how open and honest these lovely people are, but also how insightful, especially given their age. You can tell they are filled by the Holy Spirit.
Just last week, I got baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church and this issue never stopped me from converting to the Church. And people often ask me ‘why not?’. Well, the answer is always: ‘It’s like comparing apples and oranges’. Faith is not defined by those who are with authority in the Church. The reputation may have been damaged but definitely not the faith. Converting to the Church is something I do not and will not regret in my life.
I’m not sure who said this but I think it’s very accurate: ‘Strong Protestants become Catholics and weak Catholics become Protestants.’
This really hurts, I love the Catholic church. I could never leave it, but it has greatly shaken my faith in how the Bishops and Cardinals can handle situations like this. Great video NCG.
Don't be shaken. Christ promised that even the gate's of hell won't prevail against His church. Be strong.
My faith did not waver because there is a difference between Catholicism as a faith and the Catholic Church as an institution. Just because I follow and observe the Catholic faith doesn't mean I automatically condone everything that every member of the institution of the Church does. It would be the same as saying I condone what the nazis did just because I'm German. I thank God for the lovely priests I have in my life and the examples of the Saints I can follow. However, I'm also extremely disappointed about how the Church handles these cases and I am outraged that these things continue to happen. They are NOT Catholic, they are NOT Biblical, they are NOT what Jesus would want and they are simply an outrage.
I feel so sorry for all of my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ. All my sympathy. From a Protestant.
Nothing, and I mean nothing would ever shake my faith in the Church. I was however in Baltimore with the Church Militant to pray for the Bishops and hold them accountable.
Shouldn't your faith actually be IN GOD? The Scriptures says NOTHING about"faith" in any church,Eric F. Didn't Jesus Himself command us in John 17 to"Have faith in God" ?? 🤨🤨🤨
@@lcringo3498 The Church is the bride of Christ. My faith is in God, Jesus Christ. "And I will build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it". Try reading the whole Bible and not just the parts that fit your beliefs
@@ericf5978 Is that your answer, Eric F? "Read the whole Bible " How is that apropos to anything? Show me in Scripture where we are instructed to have faith in any church? WE ARE THE CHURCH!! Our faith is to be in the God of the Church, our Saviour and Lord, Jesus the Christ; THAT is what the whole Bible teaches....try again, my friend...! 😊
My faith will never fall! May get rocky at times but will never fall. I love the Catholic Church and will always stand by The Catholic Church!
I loved your candor. This crisis is both unfathomable and yet all too human. We need to make this right, but we need to do it with a desire for justice and right, not vengeance.
This is so well done. So well said. You give me so much hope, reassurance for our Church. God bless you.
My opinion is pretty similar to what's already been expressed. I am highly disappointed, but my faith has always been in Christ, not the clergy. Having a historical perspective here can sometimes help, as it helped me to realise that this isn't the first time we've had bad clergy. God Willing, we'll endure through this, even if we have to shrink in size (at least in the West).
I don't see why I would need to leave the church because of the scandal. If anything, those offenders should be the ones leaving.
The church is the people. In these trying times I believe that it's more important to stick together.
The Church is centered on Christ, not the people. We are the body, He is the head. But what you are saying is correct
Guys you have a great channel, thank you for being a source of inspiration for so long. I am no longer Catholic. I only wish to say one thing:
Don't leave the church lead it. This talking point hangs responsibility of the crisis on laity, and the bishops and priests in on it laugh all the way to the collection basket.
Congrats for your words! God bless each one of you in Jesus through Mary!
To everyone that thinks that the church is horrible and that Catholics are horrible please let me remind you that it is the people, as the people in the video said. The church never taught us to rape children or to molest them or abuse them. It is broken horrible people that do it not the church’s teachings. I don’t know his name but the guy explaining @3:15 explained it perfectly
If those church leaders who did horrible things truly had the Holy Spirit dwelling in them to begin with, they wouldn't have done what they did. And no it's not a single mistake from being tempted or something, that's not the big problem. The bigger problem is choosing to live in sin without any conviction whatsoever. This is why it says in the bible to test each spirit, if they truly have the fruits of the Holy Spirit in them. Now we know they didn't. But it's not too late to repent and truly surrender to Jesus and make Him their Lord and Saviour. I pray by God's grace they really turn around.
PandaDJ Girls raping children is the lest of their crimes! But it’s never gonna stop until Christ comes back and destroys the catholic organization and your eyes will never shut because you’re going to be trying to figure out how they deceived so badly! Most likely in purgatory but hopefully not because then it’s definitely to late for you because purgatory is hell. But Christ isn’t going to have mercy on you unless you leave before this happens otherwise all the plagues written in the scriptures will be added to you! You guys have changed lots of things in the scriptures and that alone is enough to send to hell for all eternity. I can prove this to you by just using your own bibles. Read revelation 22:18-19 and find out what happens to those who do that, and those who follow those people will receive the same consequences!
I’ve heard the following and it really makes sense as it relates to this topic: “Why leave Jesus because of Judas?”
Beautifully done. We are a Church in pain. In sadness. In anger. The victims of this abuse must be aided and never blamed. The perpetrators must never be put in authority ever again, yet we , as Christians are obligated to forgive them someday. Any kind of sexual predator needs to be marked and watched, never being allowed access to potential victims. The caveat being that we should never support a witch hunt: let's learn a lesson from our Protestant brothers and sisters. Peace be with you all.
I am a Filipino Roman Catholic, Legion of Mary member, and choir. When I saw this video I rejoiced even though the subject is sensitive I liked their response. The priest only sins not the whole church. May the Lord clean His church
May the goddess Mary bless you, you sexy thing,
A few things i been thinking about recently:
1. Has this always occured in the church, or is it just a 20th century phenomenon?
2. If it is a 20th century phenomenon, then what are the causes?
3. Why has it been an almost worldwide phenomenon, what's going on here?
4. Was the church deliberately infiltrated by peadophiles, or did the priests become peadophiles due to their own weakness?
5. How could people remain silent when this is one of the worst and lowest sexual crimes you could possibly commit?
6. Does this have anything to do with homosexuals, Vatican 2, the sexual revolution, etc....?
7. Was celibacy a cause?
8. There have always been bad priests, but they were never tolerated, so why was it tolerated in the 20th century? Was it simply the lowering of standards due to secular culture?
Just some thoughts.
3:32 YES!!! Joe, thank you VERY much for making this distinction.
A helpful and balanced commentary which sets out how the individual can make sense of the abuse of power. However you wrap it , this is about an individual (s) abusing their position . The way forward is in my view to integrate women into the church at all levels to lead the Church forward and to provide the balance that enables safeguarding through equality of power between men and women .
It didn't shake my faith, it just moved me to pray for the Church even more. There are plenty of faithful and holy priests to whom we can get the Sacraments from, pray for them as well.
What scares me is before all of this scandal release stuff I prayed to God and asked him to get all of the bad people caught who hurt little ones and now all of these are coming about.
Your successful intervention with God shows: The end is near.We wish you,oh you young people and followers of the Lord , a joyful (and certainly a successful) resurrection in the flesh without - what you might consider- undue delay. How happy you must be to see The Lord so soon with all your youthful health and contagious enthusiam, whereas we have to stay back on this dismal Planet waiting for the next tsunami,hurricane or asteroid-impact.
This is one of the reasons why i can't get behind Christianity or Abrahamic religions not just because its hypocrisy its teachings in the Bible that support Meat eating drinking alcohol. And other cruel nonsensical theology. And its condemnation against other religions and gay people. And simply because the Hindu scriptures of my Religion Hinduism Veads the Gita Upanishads written long before Christianity existed. In comparison make Christianity seem backwards crude superstitions
Evil always attack the people close to Jesus. Remember what Judas and Martin Luther did.
I am also disgusted with the scandals, but the eucharist... You can never find it anywhere else. Peter is still where Jesus built His church.
The teachings of the faith is true they do not come from man but are Divinely Revealed by the Holy Spirit to man.
People tend to forget that the clergy are men imperfect sinners like everyone else capable of committing sin even St. Peter denied he knew Christ three times. It's the office they hold which came from Christ which is holy that doesn't nessisary mean the man that holds that office. Even Judas Iscariot was an Apostle he preached the Gospel, healed the sick and drove out demons in Christ's name but yet he betrayed Christ. That office Judas Iscariot held was no less holy than any of the other offices of the Apostles.
If your faith is on God(the rock) and not on man or organized religion it will withstand tribulations in life
Amen, Ed!! 😆
oh,will it=
@@annemburada6265 amen
Very powerful video.
What makes me very sad is the fact that we (as the society in general) stopped trusting others. I know it's hard to trust a person who has commited a crime, even if we are not the victims. But because of the scandals not only priests or teachers, but basically any person who is being friendly towards a child is regarded with suspicion. I get the thing about signs and that maybe some of the abuse could have been stopped if someone took a closer look on things. But this still terrifies me that we don't trust others anymore, that we see a hidden meaning in nearly every friendly gesture towards children (like being alone with the child in a car)...
My brain kept processing the topic whole day, so I have some (or rather MANY) more thoughts on this. I'd like to hear what other people think about my ideas (if anyone has enough patience to read all of them).
I was thinking about the trust issue. I mean, being distrustful after someone hurt you is understandable, but is teaching distrust a really good way to prevent sexual abuse of children? As I am not a victim of it, I can't say with 100% certainty, but from what I've read distrust may cause bigger problems. I mean, if a child knows that he or she can ALWAYS, no matter what, in ABSOLUTELY any case go to their mother, father, older sibling, grandparent etc. and tell them that they don't feel comfortable around some adults, that someone has done something strange to them etc., and be sure that their concerns will be heard and treated seriously, then the pedophil has smaller chance of keeping the abuse secret. I see it mostly as a matter of trust and respectful upbringing. It's something we as catholics struggle with, maybe because of traditional view on family, in which children are basically a property of their parents. What I mean is that parents want their children to be polite and extremely obedient, especially to their elders. I say that this is a catholic (but not only!) problem, because as far as I know the revolution in upbringing that gave voice to the children was generally non-religious, so many catholics (at least here in Poland) think that being respectful to your child and admitting he or she has rights is practically the same as saying "go ahead, don't respect anyone, don't believe in anything, do what you want". I'm saying all of this because I don't believe we need more distrust and control to prevent sexual abuse from happening. What I've learned from the attachment parenting sources is that what matters the most is: respecting child's boundaries (e.g. not forcing the child to kiss grandma, teaching the child that he or she can always say "stop touching me" and they should be obeyed - of course we're not talking about dire situations like when the child has to be immediately diagnosed by a doctor, but such situation should also be explained to the child), listening to the child and not assuming at once that he or she is lying (not having punishments also helps - I hear that abusers often tell the child that if they say anything to their parents, they will be punished, either because the parents will think they're lying or because the abuse is something good and the child shouldn't complain), teaching them not to have secrets with other people (it's ok if the child just don't want to tell their parents something, but they should know that they CAN tell them anything; surprises are also ok - they differ from secrets, because they are from the beginning meant to become known), not telling them that they shouldn't speak to strangers (when the child needs help and their family isn't there, it SHOULD be able to go to someone - like a policeman or some other family passing by - even if they don't know the people). I don't know - maybe that's something you also learn on the courses that were mentioned in the video. Just looking for a signs of abuse has two big flaws - firstly, it doesn't prevent the abuse, only its continuation, and secondly it makes you very suspicious, maybe even paranoic. The respectful upbringing also has a flaw in this context - it does not help children that have already been teached to always be obedient and quiet. Maybe these two methods should be connected (at least until the attachment parenting becomes widely popular).
Whoa. I hope that makes sense.
Also, thank you, Tatiana, for sharing your story. I'm quite lame in comforting people, but I know that sometimes thinking of people who wish me well helps me in my troubles, so I just want to let you know that I wish you well. (Lame as I said...)
I hope my English is understandable... and my thoughts readable.
This video is good but I feel like y'all are missing the heart of the issue a bit....The wolves in sheep's clothing are all throughout the hierarchy of the church, even up to the Cardinals...
We believe it. It's not said, but it is something we also acknowledge
@@AprilGracecatholic Good to know. Thank you for this video and everything you do!
And the god in charge is where exactly at this crucial moment?
God did not absolve the Levitical Priesthood after the sins of Nadab & Abihu or Eli's sons. He did not dissolve The Church when we sold indulgences.
When I was a kid, my family moved to a new city every other year. Not once was my mother ever concerned. She realized that the Spotlight Bias Fallacy would accomplish nothing.
Help victims, excommunicate wrongdoers -trial them and send them to jail.
I'm thinking that my Church has been over run with wolves in sheep's clothing. Do I run or do I stay and fight against such evil?
Thank you, thank you for this very timely and heartfelt video.
I wasn’t really shocked by these scandals. I’m not even sure that I felt much at all - there have been so many terrible things that have been happening in the Church lately that I was too emotionally and psychologically exhausted to deal with this new one properly. At the most, I just walked around in some kind of vaguely angry daze for about a week. I have a very deep rage about everything that has been going on overall, however, which is not helped by the feeling that the bishops and the Pope have betrayed and abandoned me and all of their people. I’m not entirely sure what to do with all of this; I usually just rage-watch videos of people talking about these problems so at I can feel like I know what’s going on.
Do you feel that the monastery should consider Act 33 & Act 34 clearances as well as an FBI background check as a prerequisite towards excepting new students?
Scandal is from going past what is Written, for The Holy Bible never tells to be influential in harm. For example, broken trust of those who interfere in any way, shape, or form with husband & wife. It is just harmful & unkind, for those who play God, over other's lives. So sad. Peace
I love the Catholic Church, but I feel that this NEEDED to happen... these wolves in sheep clothing- need to be weeded out!
*BRING ON THE FEDERAL RICO INVESTIGATIONS!*
If you want to know how it all started, look up Bella V. Dodd. She testified before the US Congress in 1953 and explained the entire situation, where it started and who these people were. We are dealing with the effects of it now. Understanding this is the key to ending the scandal for good.
"The investigation found that more than 300 Catholic priests across Pennsylvania alone had sexually abused children for decades." -That is incorrect.
The investigation reported that there were over 300 allegations of sex abuse of minors since 1930.
That's a huge difference!
thank you for the video
the answers are really enlightening
Good job guys!
Maybe what could help all those who lost their faith is understanding that the only Perfect Priest is Jesus Christ. He is the Only One who can heal the wounds caused by these priests who have scandalized the Catholic Church. Another thing that made me keep Catholic is that we don't need to expect the holiness of priests for the Eucharist to be a valid sacrament. All we need is that this priest is connected to his Diocesan Bishop. So, let's focus in Jesus, in the Perfectness of the Eucharist. Let us focus in Our Lady who intercedes for each of Her Children who were abused. Let us remember that Our Lady is still interceding for the abusers and the abused people. Let's wait for the Heart of Mary to triumph!
May Mary, Mother of the Church intercede for all those who lost their faith! Mary Mother of the Church wrap in Your Maternal Mantle all those who need Your welcoming Love to be healed! Amen
This kind of abuse is also happening in other organisations which don't get the media coverage. This catastrophe is proof of how evil humans can be and why we need the Savior.
I think that if you had a child. And your kid grows up. And your kid who is now an adult commit a terrible crime. I really cannot tell that I could stop loving my kid. That does not mean would avoid justice to be serve.
If you think this, imagine then how much more can be the love God have.
It definitely is easy to hide the fact you aren't "authentically holy", especially to young children. It doesn't matter at all if you personally can spot a dodgy priest, vulnerable people can't .
A part of me wonders if this might do us some good in the long run. I think when the Church becomes too big, its leaders forget about humility and the true message of the Gospel. I foresee our Church becoming smaller but having people who are true to the faith. That might be better as I feel like the Catholic Church may be going through a pruning period. Time to show the rot and take it out! We, as the Catholic laity, need to stand up, pray up and become saints and save our Church ala St. Catherine, St. Francis of Assisi and other great saints.
if they were married none of this would have happened !
why make priests suffer without wives AS IF they were not human, in the first place....... what do you expect them to do. ASCEND ?
6:34 Doing maths at _"over the last 50, 60 or so years"_
2018
0060
1958
Would I be right in _nearly_ all being post 1958 and _all_ post 1950?
Those happen to be significant dates. 1958, death of Pius XII and you get what nearly all Sedevacantists consider as Antipopes publically shown as Popes.
1950, the year in which he issed Humani Generis, making a "Honorius" move about the heresy of Adam bodily descending from other living organisms. (You know, like Honorius refused to condemn Monotheletism).
Not going to lie, almost left Catholicism for Protestant after this happened. Edit: thanks for the correction
Catholics are Christians.
What she said. Catholics are a type of Christian, the original type. What you mean is you almost left for Protestantism.
You're not the only one; Tatiana almost did too. What kept you in the faith?
April Grace Because people did the mistake not our religion catholicsm
April Grace Because the Catholic Church has the Eucharist. I couldn’t leave Jesus for a watered down faith. And I’m a recent Catholic convert who was just received this Spring. My husband and I wrestled with whether or not to return to Protestantism but at the end of the day we couldn’t unlearn the truth and decided to stay and fight for justice as laity.
The abuse will never stop. Membership is going to fall, and the church will begin to finally crumble. I left years ago and haven't been happier since
The church will never crumble and membership has not fallen. There are corrupt people in the church, but the church itself is not corrupt. There are no words for how awful these individuals are and there is absolutely no excuse for what they have done. But the church does not support these disgusting acts. There will always be bad people in the world but we are doing everything possible to prevent this from Happening again. It is now more than ever that we need to turn to God. My prayers for anyone struggling❤️
Sadly post-Pentecost, community church may have nothing to do with the state religion, Catholicism, that developed after the candlesticks were put out. I may have seen a place where the original is coming back to life and that can be found at twelvetribes.org.
Yes, Jesus Christ's Passion is very agonizing at this time in history; higher than ever... at just before 13:00 and then continues. The protection of children in the womb and outside of the womb should be much more paramount as John Paul ii inspired by The Holy Spirit, directed The Church for the salvation of souls. There are many reasons related to what you are saying here as to why there is so much reticence. Please read my other comment. Peace.
I basically compare this to the Renaissance era were most Catholics couldn't take the hierarchy serious. If you look at literature and poetry from that time it tends to be very saucy and provocative. The most popular piece of literature being the epic poem The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri. I got red pilled about Pope Francis and the state of the Church in 2014 going into the Synod of the family and never really turned back especially after Amoris Laetitia. I will always have my faith but I think as to what goes on in the Vatican and what comes from the Pope I don't care anymore or don't want to care anymore. I am sort of inside when it comes to the hierarchy and Catholic headlines. I liken it to having dysfunctional parents that are always drunk and will always let you down you just get used to it they're still your family you still love them but you don't expect much from them.
Those who knew about this and said nothing need to remember Ezekiel 33:2-6.
Does God desire the death of the sinners?
No.
Does He want them them to convert so that they may live?
Yes.
Take your pick bruddah.
16:29 St Giovanni Bosco and Domenico Savio were close.
I am not saying in a sexual way, one of them is canonised by Pope Pius XI (even if it was on April 1) but like "the dynamic duo" of Catholic pastoral back then in Turin area (I think they were in Torino).
Supposing everyone back then had been on the outlook for "special focus" and "some kind of disordered relation" ... could their friendship have existed? I presume that canonisation _is_ valid.
Are you sure the kind of measures that the classes are promoting are not part of what the devil has planned through this destructive work?
Also, when _everyone_ is on the outlook for something, sometimes innocent people are accused of that something. In France or Belgium, two priests (or Vatican II clergy, their ordinations are presumably not valid) have committed suicide over being, presumably falsely accused.
Btw, considering how many Anticatholic people who are presumably reading me, I expect some will try to pour smut on Domenico Savio - but I still think it needs to be written. Shrinks are NOT our experts in moral theology and also NOT our experts even on how to protect the innocent against this, that or sundry person who would be the real guilty one.
As you mentioned it being a "no no" for an adult and a child (unrelated as parent or uncle, I presume you mean) to spend time together alone, while I was abused by school mates in another way - harrassment, but really severe - a man whom I later came to distrust on other issues actually did comfort me while he was driving me in a car. He can have contributed to saving me from getting too depressed. He did cheer me up. If I hadn't back then been responsive to adults cheering me up (even if it was a childish trait and arguably has harmed me socially later), school with those other guys would perhaps have killed me, and "perhaps" is perhaps not the right word.
Are you suggesting if we see a man spending inordinate amounts of alone time with a young boy.....we should assume he's the next St. John Bosco?
No.
But St. John Bosco arguably was spending lots of time with him.
And arguably it couldn't have happened in the climate of hysteria this crisis is promoting.
One hint about abuse NOT being the case would at least be "do they have a legitimate common interest" (in St John Bosco's and Domenico Savio's case : saving souls and sanctifying themselves).
And "inordinate amounts of time" cannot simply be determined from the amount of time. Could a common interest require it?
The crimes of man do not reflect on the Church as a whole. In my opinion
I am happy to be in the church because I have seen jesus work in my life and He is good
These Catholic Churches should all have molistation help centers.
Vigano! Vigano!
Agreed, but it goes farther back than that. Bella V. Dodd explained the entire situation in 1953 and wrote the book School of Darkness. She is the key to understanding it, and stopping it for good.
This is nothing new and sadly I am numb almost uncaring about pain misery and horrible acts of humanity also Lucifer has control over this world and can influence even holy men
Not a damn word about the gay priests and the fact most of these scandals are about homosexual predators smh
It is not irony that the day the PA report came out was the day on which Fr. Maximillian Kolbe gave his life in Aushwitz so that a man with a family might live. Personally I think it nothing short of a message.
I'm tired of going over this but in the last 15 years in Pa there have been three allegations of abuse/improprietry. In effect then in real terms the "scandal" ended 15 years ago. So has the church responded adequately to the needs of victims? I will say yes because the first spokesman to say something on the Stephanonpolous Sunday show said he had been offered a settlement that included a four year free ride for his children. I'm afraid this time around on the Scandal carousel is nearly all about anti catholic bigotry rather than new offenses.
Keep the faith and have some joy about it. The biggest downer on this thing is the unwillingness of the church to defend it's self. On the upside by the time your my age the church will have gotten these no shows out of it' system and gotten a whole cohort of fresh unjaded types.
18:46 _"so that victimization of children doesn't happen again"_
You are aware school and harrassment is a more numerous victimization in numbers of victims than sexual predators, aren't you?
Are you standing up against school compulsion?
Some of its victims include suicides who killed others first.
And that means Cassie Bernall along with Klebold.
Uh yes. All violence is against the fifth commandment and is an evil to be fought against. I'm homeschooled, Hans, so of course I don't like school compulsion. But this video is for the specific abuses of the Catholic Church and how we can be sure that children and vulnerable adults aren't abused in the Church, not about school safety.
I am glad at least one of you steps up for homeschooling.
Some don't.
I was specifically thinking of one recently "canonised" man who in "Gaudium et Spes" considered teachers as representatives of mankind / humanity to their pupils ....
@@hglundahl I mean, they should be. Schools are great... when they are good.
Teachers should be the complements of parents on the parent's terms.
Not elevated to "representatives of humanity".
There is still hope for you. Jesus Christ is your only way to heaven (John 14:6). He paid the price for your sins with his blood, on the cross at Calvary. If you believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and call upon his name with a humble, repentant, willing, and contrite heart sincerely, he will save you from the lake of fire.
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: (Romans 3:10)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23)
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9)
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:13)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18)
Get saved today, while you still can, because there might not be another tomorrow.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. (Revelation 18:4-5)
Look I really think you guys are trying hard and coming from a good place, and as an Atheist I'm not the intended audience, this video isn't a good look for you, it's too cryptic and relies on the faith concept too much, I'm not here to harass anyone or try and convince anyone to abandon their faith, I just wanted to see the issue from this angle and found your response lacking
What would you prefer we say? Honest question
@@PatNeve I don't want to put words in your guy's mouths, if you don't feel it you shouldn't say it, it sounds very self focused and is presented as an issue that doesn't effect the world outside the church, which as this is not meant for general audiences I get that, but I doesn't seem right to treat the outside world as if it didn't happen to them as well, when one of the world's largest religions has a scandal like this it ripples throughout civilizations, the cryptic part is stuff like you can sense the holiness or long metaphors that bring more questions than answers such as why was the infection allowed to grow and that amputation can easily cause someone's self identity to change, mine did when I lost my fingertips on the pinky, ring, and middle finger of my right hand, the more pragmatic answers like the programs for watching out for this stuff were good, also more of anger and sadness I suspect ended up on the cutting room floor was warranted, these are just my observations and they are intended to help, believer or heathen (such as myself) should be concerned with this
@@zachkrake7169 you bring up a good point, we didn't really discuss how this affects people outside the Church, but, like you said, that's mostly because the video was for Catholics.
That being said, you bring up a good point. This issue affected more than just people within the Church. I don't think the video denies that, it just doesn't touch on it.
@@PatNeve I'm probably reading too far into it but keeping these type of things this insular is partly how we ended up here in the first place, and I don't want this to continue, I think for your programs it would be a good idea to study why things like "Just say no" and D.A.R.E. campaigns fail, people are too easily convinced it couldn't happen to them
I think it is because Catholics thought that it couldn't happen to them that so many people are personally wounded by this news. Their Church that was a refuge now seems like another unsafe place. Think of it like a family of a suicide victim; they are shaken and need to be picked back up first before they can speak to others outside of the family to encourage them.
am i the only one that thinks these priests and bishops who did this should be excommunicated
I actually just came back to the faith a month before the scandals. No it did not shake my faith because there is no salvation outside the church and there is no way to receive the sacraments (confession and communion especially) outside of it. This scandal has simply reaffirmed for me truths that every Catholic used to know, that there should not be homosexual priests for theirs is not a natural state of mind and thus cannot be relied on and they especially can't relate to an overwhelmingly heterosexual laity. How can a homosexual be called a "father"? It's time to stop being "nice" Catholics and simply state the truth, the world hated/hates Jesus for it, it will hate us as well who cares I don't hate gay people but they shouldn't be running our church.
I think the Catholic church is destroying itself trying to appease the modern world and it might take a couple generations of pissed off Catholics to fix it but I guess my trust in our leaders has vanished for not speaking out against it especially the pope and his involvement/knowledge in the whole thing
Scandals come and go, we had them they lifted
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The only thing that would shake my faith is if they change the teachings on same sex. If they ever change the teaching then I would leave Christianity altogether and become Jewish. That being said I don't believe they ever will. They are human beings and are not immune to temptation. I will not give to the bishops funds ever again. I will support my local parish.
Out of curiosity, how does the Church’s teaching on same sex prove or disprove the veracity of Jesus as Messiah? Jesus is the whole point/reason of Christianity, so I’m not sure what apples have to do with oranges. Would you mind sharing your thoughts on this? Definitely not trying to be rude or anything, I’m just interested in your thought process here.
Lion of Judah My question isn’t over whether Jesus is Messiah, it’s what does the teaching of same sex have to do with its validity. Determining Jesus as Messiah is something one comes to by doing their own research into the claims of Christ and prophecy he fulfilled. What I’m saying is, based on his statement, his faith in Christ is unshakable unless the Church changed its teachings on same sex relations. I don’t see what one has to do with the other and was asking for his reasoning. Hope that clarified my question.
Just say you hate gay people and go lmao you don’t have to announce conversion
First!!!