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  • @davecironelibrarykid
    @davecironelibrarykid 4 роки тому +5

    This is a great breakdown for those new to the hobby. Sometime older collectors forget that we DO want new people being excited about comics!

  • @pinewoodilluminati4195
    @pinewoodilluminati4195 4 роки тому +2

    Chris is the man! I asked him so many newbie questions... and he patiently answered every last one in his typical humble style. I will never forget that. I learned a lot from Chris and not all just about comics. Respect.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +2

      Aw man, I appreciate it! This definitely means a lot to me. So many people, including folks in this community, have taught me so much over the years, and to know that I can give back means the world!

  • @mattstaj3632
    @mattstaj3632 4 роки тому +3

    I remember when I got back in the hobby 12 years ago... I was collecting the McFarlane asm run... I only wanted the direct edition because of the "cool" image in each issue. Looking back, kinda wish I went after the newsstand! Great video, take care!

  • @magnumrex
    @magnumrex 4 роки тому +1

    I thought the barcode with the slash meant the comic came in one the 3 packs. I have a bunch of 70s comics like that. Star wars, Battlestar Galactica, Tarzan, shogun warriors all had 3 packs along with regular marvel comics. I remember specifically getting them at Zayres.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +2

      The slash in the barcode could be from the 3 backs as well, which ultimately are their own type of "direct" market. You had Whitman, and you also had Comicpac. The barcode was first implemented on newsstands in 1976, and the superhero image within the white box was not used until 1979, and that little image of Spider-Man in the box first showed up on a Spider-Woman comic released that year. Prior to this, the line through the barcode was used more widely for direct editions.

    • @magnumrex
      @magnumrex 4 роки тому +1

      @@JernosComicsPopCulture Thanks never knew that.

  • @Mikah234
    @Mikah234 4 роки тому +1

    Just learned a couple of new things I wasn't aware of. Appreciate your post and information bro. And also for all collectors. There are a few big books. that some folks willing to pay a lot more for in newsstand. Perfect example is asm #300. So do your research if you're selling especially.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      Absolutely! ASM 300 and TMNT #1 are two that are hot right now, especially for newsstands. And the correlation? All late 80s books. NM98 is another one and also Batman Adventures #12.

  • @astroron8233
    @astroron8233 4 роки тому +2

    You’re the realest in the game. Respect! Love your videos.

  • @SilverGoldComics
    @SilverGoldComics 4 роки тому +3

    Nice video, very informative! I believe (not certain) that newsstand editions were returnable, unlike direct editions. This may make them more rare, even if more were printed, but less were sold.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      You are absolutely right and I definitely should have touched on that aspect!

  • @TheRealRogerRoger
    @TheRealRogerRoger 4 роки тому +1

    Great topic! Collecting in the 80's & 90's in my area we had no legit comic shops, so almost all my books from those eras are newsstands, I stopped collecting in the late 90's. About a yr ago I started collecting again and went through all my back issues and remembered all the news stand copies I had in my collection. I have just started getting them graded so I'm excited to see my xmen, hulk and spidey's get slabbed.

  • @joegee1699
    @joegee1699 4 роки тому +3

    I try to grab newsstands but they really pull a premium. My Wolverine 1 newsstand is probably the only comic I have that's a possible 9.9 so watch out on Ebay for a ridiculous auction if I decide to slab it! 🤣

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +4

      Oh snap! A 9.9 #1 newsstand???? You got to let us know if you send it in!

    • @joegee1699
      @joegee1699 4 роки тому +2

      @@JernosComicsPopCulture that's my VERY unprofessional opinion, which CGC might not share! 🤣 However, the gentleman who owned it originally purchased it, bagged and boarded it, and didn't touch it for the better part of 30 years... his self-admitted OCD served his comics well!
      It has no flaws, according to my untrained eye. We will see 🚀

  • @joephuz1
    @joephuz1 4 роки тому

    I’m still a sucker for those Bronze Age newsstands because I like the look of the square corner box instead of the diamond shaped ones.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      YES! I was just saying in another comment that I really can't stand the diamond! I'm all about aesthetics and the diamond just doesn't do it for me!

  • @dandelatorre1870
    @dandelatorre1870 4 роки тому +1

    Also I think it was Jim Shooter’s idea when he became editor-in-chief. He among other things had business sense and he understood that any company needed “expand or die”. He made changes that many at Marvel didn’t like, I know this because I had the pleasure of talking to about those years at the San Jose ComicCon in 2018.

    • @SilverGoldComics
      @SilverGoldComics 4 роки тому +1

      I don't think Shooter gets enough credit in the comic community. To me, he is top 5 "game changer" in comic history.

    • @dandelatorre1870
      @dandelatorre1870 4 роки тому +1

      @@SilverGoldComics I agree with you and told him so, he was very appreciative to hear that.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      I hear you guys! Yeah, it's interesting because I think what was happening then sort of parallels (at least in a way) to what is happening now, especially with DC.

  • @dynamite8697
    @dynamite8697 4 роки тому

    There is more demand for Newsstands than early directs simply because people don't know about them much. If people like you continue to make these types videos educating collectors, that will change. Keep stocking up on those late 70's / early 80's direct editions!

  • @rogerb7662
    @rogerb7662 4 роки тому

    I have to say thank you. Someone who actually explains it properly. The thing I hate the most is there are certain sellers on IG and eBay that try to fool people into paying higher prices for newsstands before 1986. Seen so many claim sales for a She Hulk 1 where they say NEWSSTAND 🔥🔥 when the book is from 1980. These people know better and are trying to take more of your money. Only books in my opinion I’d purposely try for newsstand are ASM 300 and ASM 361. Rest I could care less. Whatever is better deal for the price.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      I definitely hear you and I think there is this blind census of what "newsstand" means. I do believe there is something to be said about HIGH grade newsstands even from the late 70s or early 80s... But yeah, you can't box newsstands together in this glorified light. Like, a 3.0 newsstand issue of Spider- Woman #12 is not worth more than a 5.0 of the same book.. simply because it's newsstand. Thanks for the comment!

  • @thebeerdedone7568
    @thebeerdedone7568 4 роки тому +2

    I support everyone's right to enjoy capitalism. Speculate and sell books for whatever you want on ebay all you want. Newsstand variants are cool in a historical context and thanks for teaching me something today; however, I think newsstand variant speculation is silly and the hiked prices are in my opinion gouged. I have no desire to pay over what I consider to be fair market value for a barcode.

    • @natew1494
      @natew1494 4 роки тому

      Amen. It's stooooopid.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      It's all perspective and what we choose to invest in as consumers. My thought process is this: If a seller is asking a price that may be "gauged," and individuals still buy the product at that asking price, the price can no longer be considered "gouged," because people are willing to pay that price, therefore naturally affecting FMV.
      There is a reason that people desire newsstands more, and for the most part, that desire if 100% viable and logical. Newsstands are more often harder to come by in high grade. Later newsstands had a much smaller print run than directs. Those things equate to scarcity, and more often than not, scarcity equates to a higher demand.
      To your point - and like I addressed in the video - I do believe there is a lack of knowledge surrounding newsstands that has created a generalized perception, meaning, many people don't know that there are still most likely more newsstand vs direct of books from the late 70s and early 80s.
      So I think it's more sound to state that some prices aren't necessarily gouged, but are created from uneducated buyers who drive the demand of something up based on misinformation or a simple lack of knowledge.

  • @vynilrob9719
    @vynilrob9719 Рік тому

    I'm from the newstand era (started collecting in the early 70s)...to get the hottest books we used to camp out at those mom/pop boxes 'cause they sold out fast (still miffed I missed getting that ASM #122). Great memories. Excellent vid as always!

  • @fabtekk
    @fabtekk 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent info! Well done :) more or less where is your comic book collection tally at? 17,000?

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you! Right now, with more still needed to be added, my CLZ app states: 17,186.

    • @fabtekk
      @fabtekk 4 роки тому +1

      @@JernosComicsPopCulture i nailed it :) how much does it cost to have CLZ?

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      @@fabtekk It's really cheap. I think it's only like 2.99 a month.

  • @hassaan.49
    @hassaan.49 4 роки тому

    Best newsstand vs direct information video on UA-cam. Only if you added how to to read a barcode it would have been complete

  • @Into_Oblivion
    @Into_Oblivion 4 роки тому

    Great info, I knew about direct and Newstand but that bit about the square vs diamond price was new info to me. You learn something new everyday. I'm fairly new to your channel and so far nothing but good things to say!

  • @AegisComicsAlaska
    @AegisComicsAlaska 4 роки тому

    Thanks from Alaska for the vid. Very well done and easy to follow. Subbed up. Will share this vid with our customers and new shop staff.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback and sub! Alaska!!! So awesome! My dad was stationed in Alaska with the Army when he got drafted in 1966. Gave you a sub back!

  • @ComicMagMusings
    @ComicMagMusings 4 роки тому

    A nice video, Chris. I'm sure it will help many a collector make sense of the newsstand vs direct subject.

  • @dandelatorre1870
    @dandelatorre1870 4 роки тому +1

    I was collecting during the inclusion of newsstand and direct. I honestly didn’t like the diamond at the top corner. I understand that comic companies needed to expand but it was annoying.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      I feel the SAME way!!! I actually have OCD over it. I absolutely do not like it one bit. I'm all about aesthetics and that diamond just throws me off! Also, the "M" during the early and mid 80s that was on the directs.

  • @mariohill3646
    @mariohill3646 4 роки тому

    Thanks for breaking this down for us! Good to hear someone who has done their research! I have noticed the “direct edition” phrase, books with no bar codes, etc, but didn’t know what it meant. Just to be clear, does direct mean those books are distributed just to comic shops, book stores, and/or collectors?

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback! As for the direct market, it's basically your retailers in general. The publishers use a middle man (a distributor), and the distributor (Diamond is the biggest) then sells to retailers. The big different for directs (and I should have mentioned this in the video) is that whatever the retailers purchase, it is theirs no matter if they sell or not, whereas the newsstands could be returned for a credit if they didn't sell. This ultimately started hurting the industry in the mid 70s.
      Hope that helps!

    • @mariohill3646
      @mariohill3646 4 роки тому

      @@JernosComicsPopCulture Yes, now I get it. Thanks!

  • @MarcSpectorComics
    @MarcSpectorComics 4 роки тому

    Spot on brother I think the problem with the early direct edition copies is that the market overall doesn't know that that the directs are much scarcer than newstands people still think oh wow late seventies newstands big time value in which case is not true. Once people start realizing that, the value of the direct will supersede the newstands since they accounted for less than 10 percent of all copies from 79-81. Similar to about 4-5 years ago did people start really chasing the new stands from the nineties and even in this year we are starting to see all time record highs in specific keys from the nineties so it will take some time. Also dont forget about the mark jewelers inserts which spanned from the 70s to I beleive early 90s only came in Newsstand and are the hardest to find of all

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      Absolutely! The consciousness shift could indeed change things for the early directs. And I love finding Mark Jewelers, especially in bargain bins!

  • @White_Tiger2169
    @White_Tiger2169 4 роки тому

    I lived most of my life in NY, but from some reason where I lived the newsstand sold mostly direct market editions. Which I always prefer on my books cause I always thought that the issues without the upc look more pleasing to the eyes during the 80s snd 90s

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      Yeah growing up I enjoyed having the character image in the upc box, but as I got older, I wasn't a fan of the earlier directs with the Diamond in the price box.

  • @gogetteroutdoors5451
    @gogetteroutdoors5451 2 роки тому

    Came here because my dad came across an x men 266 news stand at a yard sale and I was trying to sort out what was more sought after and what are the chances you used that issue as an example haha thanks bro

  • @sandzgroup
    @sandzgroup 4 роки тому +1

    Man that was some great insight bro... I appreciate your content!

  • @darthsneaky
    @darthsneaky 4 роки тому

    Great video! I knew that you would have something on this topic that I didn't already know. Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @miguelpool2519
    @miguelpool2519 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the info, that's something new I learn everyday thanks again.

  • @kilgoretrout5009
    @kilgoretrout5009 3 роки тому

    News stand means F all to me. If I can get my hands on a book I want at the grade I want in direct edition, I'm good. News stand vs direct is for suckers.

  • @AceHaulingRemoval
    @AceHaulingRemoval 4 місяці тому

    what about comics that have no barcode or image in the bottom corner like, Moon Knight's #29 1982 or daredevil #321 and They Fly #2 and some Elektra Assassin?

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  3 місяці тому

      Most of those late 70s and early 80s comics that have no barcode and just an empty white box came in 3 packs.

  • @comicgainz5553
    @comicgainz5553 2 роки тому

    Amazing info brother,
    At what year would you not buy newsstands / direct? Which one do you prefer if having to choose?

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  2 роки тому +1

      For me, it's always about the higher grade. If both were in the same grade, I would always buy Newsstand, even for pre mid 80s, simply because I like the barcode and I don't live the old diamond on the Marvel books.
      But again, if it comes down to buying a lower grade newsstand or higher grade direct, I'd always go with the higher grade.

    • @comicgainz5553
      @comicgainz5553 2 роки тому

      @@JernosComicsPopCulture thank you 🙏🏼 💯

  • @Thoughtseaux
    @Thoughtseaux Рік тому

    Someone for the love of God tell me what the top two numbers mean on newsstand barcodes. I can’t find the answer anywhere online and I’ve been looking for about 3 hours now

  • @spencerwelchii573
    @spencerwelchii573 4 роки тому

    Great Video!
    I am in teh process of changing out the 'Newsstand' versions of my KnightSaga books (down to 4 more)...conversely I am still looking for 4 more 'Newsstands' for the Batman: Death of the Family 'Face' cvrs I used to get them at Toys 'r' Us but missed out on those 4...unlike the 'Direct Sales' versions the 'Newsstand' versions lack the outer 'Joker Skin Face Mask' and just have the hero's face.- and they tend to go for 4x the $$$ of the 'Direct Sales' versions at about $20 a pop (as opposed to about $5 a pop).
    Another 'Bar Code Box' variant you can talk about is the late 1990s DC multipack versions with various things in their 'boxes' (like 'DC Universe').
    Ciao.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      Good luck on your hunt! Yeah I thought about bringing up the DC Universe books. I know I have a good few!

  • @Sal_comics
    @Sal_comics 4 роки тому

    I personally like the look of the character corner boxes on the direct editions, but the premiums on newsstands seem to be rising. A 9.6 newsstand's value is probably equal or greater than the same 9.8 direct edition. Great video.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching! I do feel that your last statement is a bit of a generalization. You really have to look at what book, what era, etc. For example, a 9.8 Wolverine #1 (limited series) in a 9.8 demands roughly the same regardless of newsstand or direct. But your information definitely speaks to some books on the market, and I always suggest people always do their homework before they make a decision to purchase.

  • @Jdoggity
    @Jdoggity 4 роки тому

    Good info. I've watched a few videos here and subscribed.

  • @missinglynks
    @missinglynks 4 роки тому

    Solid video once again, brotha!

  • @comicbookbunker9974
    @comicbookbunker9974 3 роки тому

    Thanks, I enjoyed this video. I was a run filler collector too.

  • @BSchnurr
    @BSchnurr 4 роки тому

    Wow there was way more to that then I thought

  • @raiderbear1
    @raiderbear1 4 роки тому

    awesome work mate

  • @jonahroth8007
    @jonahroth8007 4 роки тому

    Awesome. Now I know. Thanks

  • @raiderbear1
    @raiderbear1 4 роки тому

    fantastic vid

  • @UNCANNYGEORGE
    @UNCANNYGEORGE 4 роки тому

    Good info, thanks Jerno!

  • @Nodramakeepitsimple
    @Nodramakeepitsimple 4 роки тому

    Just ordered uncanny xmen 216 through 222 first appeanace of mister sinister all newsstand im super stoked

  • @scottkernan5577
    @scottkernan5577 4 роки тому

    good video nice clone wars news stand. take care and have a wonderful day

  • @pkeel7576
    @pkeel7576 4 роки тому

    I could be wrong but news stand books from the early 90’s didn’t have as many printing flaws in my experience .
    I.e. Wolverine 1st solo series

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      Very interesting! I'd like to hear more details surrounding this. I'm not sure off the top of my head how you would gauge printing errors between directs and newsstands, next to say a specific book, but if you have any more info on this I'd love to hear.

    • @pkeel7576
      @pkeel7576 4 роки тому

      @@JernosComicsPopCulture I’ll use Wolverine 35 as an example.
      For years there were no 9.8 cgc plus all the 9.6 were direct sales and had a printing defect by the lower staple.
      Flash forward and cgc started to give those books a 9.8 due to print error.
      Right at that time I came across a box of news stand that didn’t have the defect and were true 9.8 books.
      That is only one of many from that era that shares a common trait

    • @pkeel7576
      @pkeel7576 4 роки тому

      To follow up look at that particular book and you will see what I’m talking about.
      I will have to look at my old notes on the other books I’ve come across like this (I’m almost 50 and can’t remember it all) I’ll update you on some of my other stuff.
      As I find my notes

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      @@pkeel7576 Ahhh I see what you mean! Interesting to see how many books (especially keys or decently valued books) are similar situations.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      @@pkeel7576 I'd appreciate that, thanks!

  • @ericcampbell9553
    @ericcampbell9553 4 роки тому

    Thx for this . More people need to know this . I. So tired of this newsstand hype dumb in my opinion.

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching. My intent isn't to strat people from wanting newsstands. The reason there is a higher demand is very feasible and logical. Higher grade newsstand copies are more than not more rare than directs, especially for books from the late 80s and up.

  • @ComiccollectorGamer
    @ComiccollectorGamer 4 роки тому

    There are also so many Different types of covers normal ones swipe covers variants Black and white sketch variants Blank covers LEGO variants Funko pop variants foil covers DC Gold millennium edition marvel milestone edition facsimiles all kinds of things marvel team up starring Spider-Man and marvel tales starring Spider-Man

  • @carlosmorales8111
    @carlosmorales8111 4 роки тому

    nice hat!

  • @luisquiles6676
    @luisquiles6676 4 роки тому

    True.......

  • @Chaos-cosplay-is-bord-chaos
    @Chaos-cosplay-is-bord-chaos 3 роки тому

    👍

  • @michaelo1061
    @michaelo1061 4 роки тому

    Hey man, been watching all your stuff lately. You do a great job, lots of positivity and enthusiasm. You have a fan here in Michigan. I have collected comics for years but never really seriously; since the pandemic started i decided to complete my Walking Dead run (I started at #31 back in the day), my Wally West Flash run and I've been collecting a lot of other stuff, plus all the cool new stuff.
    I have a few potential topics that would be cool to talk about:
    Why does it seem that the collectors market is so saturated with Marvel stuff? I'll admit to being a Flash fan at heart but I was a Marvel kid too in the 90s like a lot of kids. X-men cartoons, Sleepwalker, etc. Most of the online sales I see are just chock full of Marvel stuff, and a lot of the 'keys' you see floating around are Marvel. Why do we see so much talk about Hulk 181 and FF #4 etc but not so much about first appearances of DC characters?
    What do you think about variant covers and ratios? Are they going to maintain value? My 8yo son loves Miles Morales so sometimes I pick up the 1:10 or 1:25 variants for $20 or $40 when they're available. Do you think if I get these slabbed they'll be sellable down the line if he wanted to? Will it be hard to differentiate them since they're not necessarily a key issue, just a rarer version of each issue?
    I'm really digging Iron Man lately. I'll be honest, I used to think he was really lame. RDJs portrayal in the movies is excellent but it didn't make me like the character, and a lot of his villains just seemed lame. However the Marvel Avengers video game and his recent new series have made me really put him into my top five heroes. Can you show off some of your cool Iron Man issues and talk about some of the minor keys that are more affordable?

    • @JernosComicsPopCulture
      @JernosComicsPopCulture  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the support and the comment Michael! You ask some really awesome questions! I'll definitely take note of these to address them in future videos! Also, I have my Friday Night Live livestream shows every Friday (usually at 4:15 Pacific Time), and I'm always answering questions there so if you can come by some time!
      Thanks again!

  • @thousandaireradio3199
    @thousandaireradio3199 5 місяців тому

    👍