Ingenuity Is DEAD // Dangers of Space Salad // Why Starship Exploded
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- Ingenuity is over. SLIM landed on the Moon, but it’s upside-down. Webb sees planets orbiting white dwarf stars. And we finally know why Starship exploded.
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00:00 Intro
00:14 Ingenuity is OVER
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01:48 SLIM landed upside down
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04:32 Explosive Sierra Space LIFE test
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06:44 Dangers of Space Salad
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08:23 JWST sees planets around white dwarf stars
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10:12 Mystery of the ancient light
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12:23 Vote results
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12:57 Planets around Proxima Centauri
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15:10 Patreon Club Exclusives
15:58 Why Starship Exploded
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17:17 China's reusable booster test
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18:47 Inflatable space habitats
Host: Fraser Cain
Producer: Anton Pozdnyakov
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Incredible. Ingenuity was supposed to be a oneshot, so I'd say it knocked it out of the park.
Good job, little copter-that-could. After 70+ flights, you deserve the rest.
You say this as if it wasn't bit by something.
@@archmage_of_the_aether Yeah, it was bit by a rock. It's called Litho-braking.
@@mattsmith8160 you say "rock", I hear "silicon based life form"
Seriously though, nobody saw fit to teach Percy to cast Find Familiar and bring up another one?
Voyagers were supposed to last 5 years, but after 40 years they are still going. NASA's fails are truly epic.
Hats off to Jaxa. They hit the target, Down a thruster! Didnt get destroyed. And being uside down still deployed 2 rovers. Its a win, of sorts. Ingenuity and its team ROCKED!
It released the rovers before touching down.
Thanks for cheering JAXA
I have a special place in my heart, especially their clever work arounds
Just another step to eventually having full success
He? 🙂
Where is there a he?@@Graeme_Lastname
I think I might cry over Ingenuity. I feel like I have been there since it's first flight, and have been excited over eveey following. Ingenuity served us well, he will be missed.
And was clearly brought low by local fauna
Woooah. You just misgendered ingenuity
I did somehow teared a little for ingenuity 😂 he will be missed.
Damn, didn't they think to get a AAA card for that Ingenuity so it could call for help? 😮
A salute for the first drone to fly on another planet 🫡
And it won't be the last. Next up... Titan.
The inflatable habitat is a great idea. I wouldn't rotate a single module, but use them to build a hub, spokes, and a ring out of many modules, and then rotate the entire structure. It's time.
You could even actually layer it, and put some gel or something between the outside and the people inside. Add some extra protection from radiation, small debris, and if it could freeze when it's hits vacuum or has enough surface tension or viscosity maybe seal a hole if one happens, at least long enough for people to evacuate that module to another connected module.
The Wright brothers would have been proud. Get some well deserved rest, Ingenuity ❤️
Proud, maybe. Bewildered, for sure.
The Wright bros were as much of a fraud as that piece of shite drone that never left earth.
The Wrights were 100% in it for the patent rights, not the love of aviation. It's why they imediately switched to patent-troll mode and kept trying to sell the same basic design for 15 years. Combined with an absurd ruling from a judge that had also had some other questionable rulings favoring [$$$] Ford automotive patents. This extended the Wright's patent from the mechanism(legally the intent of patents) to cover the fundamental concept of all forms of roll control.
Eventually the US government had to step in and end the Wright's patent abuses because they had brought all aviation development in the USA to a complete stand still well into WW1 (Which is why you don't see any viable American military aircraft in WW1). Curtis aircraft was the exception only because he willfully ignored the legal matters. The Curtis-Wright comnpany of the interwar period was the end result of the Federal government's action.
You literally criticizing people who tried to defend their work from being stolen. That's stupid.@@TheDuckofDoom.
The Wright Bros were private enterprise, innovative, efficient, spirited. NASA is government, bloated, wasteful, pork driven. NASA has blown $600 billion & 50+ years on one dead-end manned space boondoggle after another.. not one thing of value has come from the ISS boondoggle. No American has gotten beyond low earth orbit in over 50 years. The Wright bros would be disgusted at NASA.
You are my favorite spacetuber. I love the variety of topics you cover in just 20 minutes. Whenever I want space updates, I go to you. Seriously, great work. Never stop!
Same!
I'm by no means an engineer or expert on Ingenuity but given that they're not saying it hit anything it probably just reached it's structural life span with the tip of the roter breaking off. Still an amazing feat given it's lasted many many times longer than planned or expected.
That was possibly the greatest engineering achievement ever accomplished by the Human Race. What a performance by The Ingenuity Team!!
Thought you meant up side down landing on moon....
@@lurker668 That may have to settle for second place :P
Good funny comments under this but, the original comment is 💯
I totally disagree, a little helicopter the best we've done ? hardly...@@stalbaum
@@ashleyobrien4937 Absolutely... It _is_ a big deal that we were able to make a helicopter fly on Mars, given its super thin atmosphere. But... getting the helicopter there, safely would be a somewhat larger achievement - built on all of the achievements that allowed that.
When I heard about Ingenuity last night I cried. I loved Her. She was so unique and exceptional. My heart is broken. 😢💔
It’s a robot.
@@DrDeuteron And so are you.
You will find love again, it is not easy for choppophiles, but you will find love,
Just be careful, when you hear the motor start, stay away from the rotors
@@ErynnWilson well, when you know them personally, it’s best not to get attached.
@@DrDeuteron Can you honestly say that you show absolutely NO emotion at all when your car has a mechanical breakdown?
Considering the high velocity the rotor blades have to spin to sustain flight on mars i suspect plain and simple material failure due to centrifugal forces after over most impressive 10 times as many flights as planned (and stress tested).
COld and UV …what are the rotor made of?
MiMi Aung told us to expect a maximum of 5 flights, and that the science would be mostly limited to engineering data. Ingenuity gave us so much more. Every flight of that little helicopter was a gift. Ginny, you will be missed.
Yeah, 72 > 5. :-)
Noooo ingenuity! 😢we will miss u.... thank you so much, you cute helicopter. i still remember the day when u first flew you did so well, our little planet explorer and soldier. Get the well-deserved rest ingenuity. You will be missed ❤️
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Ingenuity went above and beyond; hats off to the team at JPL and everyone else who contributed to realizing that project, just an amazing achievement. Cheers!
Considering Amazon's relying on blue origin for delivery, there's *definitely* no chance of a rotor delivery any time soon
Replace Amazon by NASA, Blue Origin by SpaceX, rotor by lunar lander and the sentence works too...
@GlutenEruption, I thought the "Amazon cart" was pretty funny "$14 and $7" worth of items but somehow the total is "$421", seems about right!😄Only thing is the shipping is literally going to be "astronomical!"
@@zenithperigee7442 It was funny. Astronomical shipping indeed! 😁
Then, what is the point of Prime membership?
@@EinsteinsHair LMAO 😂. I paid for free delivery and dammit I EXPECT free delivery...
Fraser never ceases to fascinate!
Bravo Zulu, Ginny. You out-performed all expectations and kept Percy company in his journey.
Now rest, and know you'll always soar in our hearts.
(I'm not crying! YOU'RE crying!)
Thank you engineers of Ingenuity! Fantastic engineering and science✌😀👌💞
Can't wait for Ingenuity II and other future space droids!
Wow, that's about as good of news as we could've gotten on Starship, my favorite project that is in the works.
Haha I loved the Amazon cart at 4:01, so many little jokes in this one image. Well done!
[x] This is a gift :-)
Blade $15
Shipping $60,000,000 (direct)
$5,000,000 (ride share - 20-60 weeks typical)
Considering that these components are manufactured in limited quantities or are completely custom, I think you can multiply the prices by about 1000 (or more?).
aye ... that amazon listing :) It's the shipping that kills the price there.
3:56 That shopping cart page was my kind of humor. Loved the Elon math too. Not eligible for Prime. Proceed to checkout for delivery estimate. Installation not available.
@@tactileslut , I also liked that the "nozzle" was "Color: black, Size: 10" and the "blades" box was ticked "This is a gift."😄
I got suspicious when I noticed there was no choice of colours. Doh!
Ingenuity, you made us proud.
So true.
i cried, BUT, it was meant to make 5 flights, completed 72 if i heard the NASA spokesperson right
4:02 I LOVE this fun screenshot. Packed with so many little details!
A Fraser Cain video with jokes! ... When you were talking about the inflatable habitats I had a light bulb moment and I could see those things on the surface of Mars.
Definitely.
Habitats on Mars need to be built underground unless they are heavily shielded against solar radiation.
The idea of an inflatable habitat reminds me of an inflatable cruise ship.
Your educational videos are wonderful resource for me and my homeschool sons. My 10 year-old son has a question for your question and answer show. He would like to know what nothing looks like and what color is space in between the galaxies.
If looks like glowing hot hydrogen plasma gas, red shifted down to 2.7 kelvin
Those metal eating bugs from the movie "Red Planet" nibbled on the rotor
Is there a way to use direct sunlight for plants grown in space in a space station? You always see plans for things like hydroponics with grow lights on a solar powered station .. would it be possible if you had a space station that was in an orbit to always be exposed to the sun, and have one module with essentially a ceiling of window always facing the sun directly instead of collecting energy with solar panels to power grow lights? Is there something about light that hasn't been sort of "filtered" by the atmosphere that may be detrimental to plant growth?
Discovering your channel today, you got a new subscriber, I like the way you speak, I like how you show the news, straight to the point, animations, all perfect, thank you so much to share those "space" news the way you do it.
Amazing video as always Fraser!
I wonder if JAXA could send a command to fire one of SLIM's correction thrusters and attempt to flip it over the right way, or at least get its solar panel in sunlight? Hopefully it was built with redundancies to allow options for a situation like this.
As an 8yo kid drooling for ANY INFORMATION about Alan Shepard's 15-minute flight in 1961 ...
_Merçi beaucoups!_
Your Amazon shopping page at 4 minutes is hilarious! I paused it and took a good look at it. So glad to get a good laugh along with this news!
Three failures of that engine, and now pictures of a broken off nozzle. What are the odds that it's just running to hot and burning through the wall of the throat of the nozzle? Why else would an engine bell fall off without a catastrophic explosion while running?
Thanks Fraser. Can I ask what graphic was used for the white dwarf star? Looked pretty cool.
Don't be sad it's broken. Be happy that it worked. A 3D printer to make replacement rotors on Mars might be a good addition for next time.
it would probably be simpler and cheaper to just take a new set with them
@@gitmoholliday5764 , OP might be thinking on a larger scale, I certainly am. Seems like I remember some ideas for 3D printing a "habitat." No doubt with a lot of thought and testing put into it they can probably come up with some ideas for a functional system that requires no hands-on human intervention. We know there are always "risks" and we can't just "run down to 'Radio shack' and get another one" but it's also good reason to implement backup systems. Who knows maybe the next "Ingenuity" will be even more robust!
@@gitmoholliday5764 Hmm. If you bring a new set of rotors you'd then need some kind of magnetic arm to grab and align the drone so they can be swapped over. Like the charging cable for a macbook
Hey Fraser, big fan of the show. Do you think it would be possible to upload the video as well as the audio to Spotify? I often miss out on some image you're referring to while speaking.
I've tried video podcasts in the past and people never want to sign up for it.
The Amazon shopping cart was the funniest thing ever lmao.
I actually handled the blades of Ingenuity at JPL. They are truly surreal and FRAGILE as they are gossamer in nature. These blades are not available on Amazon.
Incredible vid. I truly makes you think. Especially when I was in university in 1985 to 89 . And again in early 90’s. World has changed!
I was thinking, I love the idea of the inflatable spacecraft, but a question that I have is this can the air cavity be filled with a type of expansion foam that absorbed radiation meaning that the expansion clone would have high hydrogen content
Oh interesting, to give it additional radiation resistance? I think you just need a lot of protons, so foam has too many gaps. I like the idea of storing your water in the outer shell.
It was a missed opportunity not to show the $420 material cost alongside a multi-billion-dollar shipping cost on Amazon.
Love your channel as well as Astronomy Cast!
Maybe NASA can solve the food safety issues of space-grown plants by using a bunch of those giant inflatable hab modules as farms to selectively breed low-gravity tolerance into various crops?
It was incorrect reporting of the problem. Plants don't get infected my e.coli, they get contaminated by e.coli. Gravity keeps a large portion of contaminates on the ground so there is less free floating in the air.
You offically have my reward of "Best Mandarin Pronunciation" among the astronomy UA-camrs!
Hah, one side effect of studying Mandarin is that I can pronounce the spacecraft names.
Sending blades to Mars and attempting to fix Ingenuity would be an interesting experiment. The kind of experiment we will one day need to perform; send a repair kit and fix stuff.
Great job, Ingenuity! Rest well. Maybe an astronaut will replace your blades and batteries and get you working again someday.
Well done, JAXA!!! Fantastic! I can't help but wonder if they'll use one or both the LEVs to wedge themselves under the SLIM and shove it to a position from which it can receive solar power. Nah... They wouldn't...would they?
Probably not strong enough, but maybe. I'm curious is the maneuvering thrusters are strong enough.
@@absalomdraconis That would better, too! Maybe the scientists and engineers will be keen to try some kind of "stunt" to right their expensive machine. After they get all the science and engineering data they can glean from the lander...why not try something that might just work? Thrusters...and rovers for backup...what could go wrong?😆🤣
We can easily breed crops that do better in microgravity. Gonna have a lotta Ph.D.s for breeds that can live better in space
Your delivery is peaceful and not as shouty as other space people. Subbed.
Hah, I never thought of myself as peaceful. :-). But I'm glad you're enjoying it.
What happened to the possibility of particles flying at you at high speeds??? They told us about that in the 1980's.
Rest in Pieces, Ingenuity (2021-2024). You will be missed!
Very exciting. Thank you, Fraser.
Excellent reporting!
The simulated microgravity condition they used for the lettuce was just to apply gravity in a rotating manner, which seems like it would mechanically cycle the leaves and open the stoma wider.
In an actual space food production setting we may concentrate CO2 from the scrubbers into the growing chamber which would cause the stoma to close (thus conserving water) which would take things in the opposite direction.
5:49 wow. Coolest thing I have seen in a long time.
Kind of crazy seeing direct images of exoplanets like that. They're just a few fuzzy pixels, but still. This is our first step into a larger world.
lol, nice cart!
Hiya Mr. Cain, as I was watching this video I couldn’t help to think, what are the mini helicopters blades constructed of and what could have broken the tip off so violently? As you say it went straight up several meters and landed. Also, why doesn’t NASA just point James Webb at the moon ? I’d imagine it would yield extremely high definition images of the landers and the surface itself. I would personally love to see what the surface of the moon looks like with such incredible detail, especially the dark side. Thank you ✌🏽
Bigelow aerospace had done a lot of work on inflatable habitats. But I was very disappointed when they went out of business. Were we just not ready? Were the rockets just not there to launch them before?
I really hope they succeed this time.
Great info share and explanations were perfect for a layman as me!! Couldn't the artificial gravity habitat be used to grow the food to improve safety?
I'm curious, what percentage of a space habitat is the exterior shell, and what percentage is all the stuff that shell holds? I'm wondering how much an inflatable station will help.
they need to send up an additive manufacturing pod, that can churn out parts, distribution might be complicated but, whatevs, easy peasy
Well at least for The Martian 2 someone can find and dig up a cute little helicopter.
And only need to fix a rotorblade.
Did it suffer damage accidentaly or was it shot down before seeing something it shouldn't have?Complotists will have something to feed on😂
People who have never changed a tractor trailer tire: "Aren't they just balloons? Won't they pop if a piece of space debris hits them?"
Before the Fall of Soviet Union, pretty much all of the United State's space program was dual use, the rockets were nuclear payload delivery devices, and one of the first ideas for satellites was spying.
Interesting trivia, the very size of early space race rockets, both US and USSR was based on how large the two countries nuclear weapons were.
Just wondering is the JAXA lander out of RCS propellant ? Maybe they can kick it over onto its side. A couple 500 newton thrusters in lunar gravity might get it done?
With how Amazon's space program is going, it will be a while until you can order any replacement drone parts from mars
What I do not understand about inflatable habitats is, if they are in zero G, what keeps them from popping due to pressure inside with no pressure to push against outside?
A single second stage starship would be three times the volume of one of these inflatables. Spirolina is a good food source but has to be processed as some kind of salad or in soups and stews. Bonus is that spirolina can produce enough oxygen to support the astronaughts eating them.
I have a question for the question show what is your favorite favorite picture even taken? For me what is the single best picture taken and why? For me its the pale blue dot it shows how tiny and insignificant we are
I don't think it is the overpressure problem with inflatable habitats. It is the underpressure. What if you lose power to keep it at one atmosphere?
As pressure decreases, the rate of decrease decreases. Er, as the delta P becomes less, the rate of seepage slows.
@@TagiukGold thank you, but doesn't that end badly at some point for an astronaut anyway? Or is it just very easy (like a stationary bike as a pump) to maintain pressure in an emergency?
@@stalbaum explosive decompression is much worse than a slow leak. The power requirements are for heating/cooling, air processing, etc. Even those have backups that can last days without power.
For the plants maybe a washing machine sized centrifuge for the next experiment? Like a rotating hydroponic system with uv light and automatic watering..
Only problem with inflatables is now you have fill it with, well, stuff. Transporting the required interior equipment and fitting it out in micro gravity could be challenging.
All the electrical, plumbing, etc is in that central solid core. But yeah, they'd need to bring equipment.
So devastated yet so much more proud of Ingenuity. Way to go lil robot buddy. Next up, Titan!
Titan is easy peasy. EDL takes 4 hours, not 7 minutes.
The little helicopter that could!
On another tack, I've heard of people proposing that a theoretical particle with negative mass would be able to exceed the speed of light (somehow). If negative mass (and, I assume, negative energy, since mass and energy are intertwined) could be achieved would this mean there would be negative entropy (or am I way off-base)?
Yes, my own hypothesis published for decades in science fiction is the inflatable habitat is what works but I suggest doing more "construction work" in space after inflation. So I describe deployed robot home-builders that are Remote Access Humanoid Units (RAHUs) that are virtual reality remote controlled by homebuilders on ISS or Spaceport Earth. They will operate inside the inflated balloon, to place a Dyson's Sphere metal frame inside the panel with polymer wafer panels given a foam-cream filling of insulation. This is then sectioned at latitude 13 north and south and at the equator of the spinning sphere. These cut panels are folded inside the top and bottom domes, which are welded forming a spinning disc, and the panels cut from the middle sections are used to build the inside structure of the facility. It adds complexity and adaptability to the architecture of the spinning disc habitat, enabling various specializations like a hospital, astronomy, and spaceport disc. They can be a train of spinning discs and a rail car linked to be a space city in a great ring and the L5 orbital location between the Moon and Earth. It is an economy of scale building in this way, longer term and made to facilitate mostly industry development in space economics than human adventure. My concept is a work-horse factory for space exploration, not a Star Trek adventure holodeck excitement place. The main reason this concept goes no where is economics, just as Bigelow Aerospace's business closed down. It takes a large conglomerate economically and with mutual agreements no one internationally will destroy it, as it is utterly defenseless at that size and location in orbit. It's part of the reason my first goal has been US Patent on tricodon light data streaming for strategic-tactical radio silent laser networking computer AI communications, necessary to the security of all of it.
Inflatable habitat in space could be far more safe than something like the space station especially if it were comprised of multiple modules. If one were to be breached by space junk or space debris, than that portion cold be abandoned and jettisoned until a replacement could be launched and united
The interesting thing is that modern quadcopters such as those made by Autel and DJI can fly just fine with the tips of their props broken off. The "computers" just compensate for the altered performance of the props. Ingenuity is not a quadcopter, so maybe it can't adapt to damaged props the way quadcopters can. Something to think about.
Biggest surprise this week was learning that Amazon doesn't deliver to Mars yet.
Amazing that that Jaxa was able to deploy rovers upside down. Or did that happen after? In any case it should be evident to anyone that if the spacecraft is tall it needs to have very wide landing gear. Are you watching SpaceX?
Question: Is it true that one cubic meter of the center of the sun only generates about as much energy as one cubic meter of compost?
4:03 😂 that cracked me up
It was a good little chopper!
Could the satellite swarms be coated in Vanta black to reduce the reflection or would that overheat them from the absorption of the photons?
I grieve in empathy for what the marvelous NASA team is feeling over this tragedy. I imagine it is more deeply felt than had it failed in it's first flight.
For the inflatable sierra space test, 60 psi is more than a 4x safety factor that’s pretty great.
Now separate inflateable habitates are available one could be designated 'farm' where the air is clear of human detritise
Question!!! Would it be theoretically possible to build a super structure that is as long as our solar systems diameter or longer, & maybe the width of earth, basically a giant tube, and put one end of it inside a black hole with measuring sensors along this tube. Could we extract data that is within the event horizon & know what is happening to the portion of the tube thats inside the black hole assuming it would be strong enough to not get ripped apart?
Nothing can get out of the black hole event horizon. So, your instruments wouldn't be able to detect anything because the signals themselves couldn't escape.
hmm, what if the instruments were quantum entangled with each other so they could send signals faster than the speed of light instantly? @@frasercain
Question: With JWST, don't you feel like space reporting has shifted from saying "astronomers have discovered" to "JWST has discovered"? Can't remember other telescopes were ever treated like this, and the work of scientists has ever been this far in the background.
I don't think so. It's just a powerful telescope, so there's a lot of breaking news coming from it. Wait for Vera Rubin and the E-ELT. Then all eyes will be on them.
@@frasercain thanks!
i am a 50 year old man. with tears on his cheeks caused by a bit of plastic 1.5 au from the sun being broken. lol
04:01 First time I've LOL'd at space bytes.
4:02 is hilarious
The math doesn't need to work when it's $420.69
I was waiting for the shipping time/price options 😂
For Ingenuity "Mark bearing and range"! Hopefully we can retrieve it someday and we can bring it home and put it on a pedestal in a museum! ❤🫡
i wanna read the reviews on the "scuba gear for phobos-grunt"
Cant call amazon yet, but once New Glen is up and running... 🎉😅
well, its been a great run for the Helleva Copter on Mars. Really, on a dusty and sometimes windy landscape. Ingenuity has exceeded its dreams. But the fact that dust and grit have worn the blade tips out making the device unable to safely fly. Erosion, yes that dirty word has taken it toll on the Ingenuity flying device.
I say to the scientists, and engineers whom crafted it, WELL DONE....
In the photo from Ingenuity that shows the shadow of the broken propeller blade to the right, to the left you can clearly see a ground strike in the dirt.
I wonder if inflatable habitats can also be beneficial on earth with 1bar/14psi environment.
Thanks 👍
Look at the PSI of semi tires and their longevity. Space inflatables would not have the exterior load or wear but would have collusions, vacuum, temperature extremes.