Light Lens Lab 35mm f/2 + BTS Photoshoot - Why I Chose The Leica SL over the GFX in 2023
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- The Light Lens Lab is made to be an exact replica of the 35mm f/2 8 Element by Leica. Do you think they did a good job? How is the image quality for 1/4 of the price of a Leica Lens?
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Video Contents:
0:00 Intro
0:10 Why I Chose Leica Over The GFX
1:20 Business - Hobby
2:06 Light Lens Lab 35mm f/2
2:36 Sample Images
5:02 BTS Photoshoot
9:45 Conclusion
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Whatever you feel inspired by and what is useful for you is just perfect. That Lens Lab is finally making it bigger now after a couple of years. Sleek video, love it.
I made the same choice back in December then i decided I needed an M and sold my SL for the M240, I definitely see myself coming back in the future though, I loved the way the camera was set up, and having that one button quickly switching to video was great for social media.
I loved them M240 and still do. Wish I had one now as well but, I always want everything.
The colour rendering on the video was really, really lovely, and the tones suited the model and the models clothing exceptionally well. Good job!
Well thank you very much for that compliment
Glad you love your SL. I love mine too. It’s a little big and heavy, but the M glass helps keep it smaller. Your photography is great.
I’m glad you love yours! Thanks for the compliment and thanks for watching
SL, SL2, CL, S2-P, S3- AND I STILL go back to shoot the original SL with the 50mm Summilux. It begs to be taken out, what it's all about. Great presentation and work Hunter.
Thank you so much. I’m currently traveling with this camera and find myself using it a lot more than I ever did the GFX
The Leica SL is great with vintage lenses in general, and really good with film-era M-series lenses. It was designed with this in mind, a custom sensor that has an ultra-thin cover glass that directs the light without detortion. And, the still very good EVF lets you see what the lens is doing, easy to focus, can see and correct for focus shift over the focus range that sometimes happens with vintage lenses, and pinpoint focus (zoomed in) with fast lenses. Of course, it is not an M-series camera which is more compact and still fun to use. But balances well, and has other advantages. Love my SL, but also have a monochrom and film M-series for those times I want to have the rangefinder experience.
Wow I did not know the SL had a thin glass cover over the sensor.
Great review. The creative use of flare really added life to the shots, but also showed the advantage of using an SL over an M camera. My only gripe with the SL is it made me long for an M camera… I now have both and they’re fantastic, though an expensive addiction. If you’ve not tried it, the Voigtlander 40mm f1.2 is absolutely wonderful on the SL.
I am still rocking the Milonta f/2 I use it on my R3M and I love that lens so much. Actually did a video on it ua-cam.com/video/24pBbCl-p-o/v-deo.html
Gear aside, you are a very talented photographer.
Thank you so much, through all the things someone could say about this video that’s the nicest possible thing. I really appreciate it.
Yeah, it's field curvature, for sure. But it's likely more of a combination of the lens being a very old, strictly film camera design on a mirrorless camera. I know the SL is pretty good work adapted lenses, but that's moreso because of the built in corrections.
The same thing happened to me for years using the 50mm summilux on a Sony a7. Eventually I just sold the lens because it only really made sense on an M10 where you wouldn't get that wild field curvature.
The lens flare shots at 7:21 and 8:07 and 8:21 are gorgeous. Nice work and cool lens!
Curious if you considered a digital M camera before picking up the SL. If so, what specifically made you choose SL over M?
Impulsivity made me choose the SL and all of the lenses. I put my GFX for trade for an M240 and a few lenses on FB marketplace and this came in and said “screw it, let’s try this out” I’ve had the M240 for a year and missed using it but I really enjoy the SL and I’m glad I got the opportunity to have one! I think my next camera will be an M10 in a year or so.
I just saw your video and I love it. You have amazing skills and I love your photos ! Congrats for the hard work !
Thank you so much! Just posted a video today 🙏🏼
Dude. This is such a great video. Images are rad and that lens looks super fun.
Thanks so much, thanks for watching.
The shots are beautiful. Why not M for manual lenses? Are you zooming into an image when focus peaking?
Honestly, I was tired of using the GFX and wanted to get back into the Leica system. Had my camera for sale or trade on FB market place for about a month and a guy wrote me with this trade and I took it kind of on impulse. I really wanted my m240 back but never saw a trade (until last week when someone was offering an M240 with one lens for the GFX and a couple lenses lol). In my mind I would grab this and shoot it for a year and then sell it and buy another M Mount camera like the M10. The way I see it, I don’t have the longest time on this earth, I love trying new cameras and I wanted to try this one out. Not disappointed at all + I am getting a sigma lens for it pretty soon that I’m excited about so I’ll have some AF going on.
I’m zone focusing for the most part and then if I’m shooting wide open and far away I’ll pop into my image real quick. The focus peaking works a lot better than my Sony did (I tested this) and the system itself is just so much more enjoyable to use.
The answer to your question: impulsivity.
Some vintage lenses (or a copy of them in this case) did not fully correct for Field Curvature. It was a compromise in design with other optical properties a priority. A good example was the original 1930s Zeiss Sonnar 50mm f1.5, very sharp with good contrast in the center even wide open, but very pronounced outer field/corners that focused closer than the center focus plane. It can be used creatively in composition, and the advantage of the EVF of the SL is that you can see what the lens is doing, and not just guess like with the finder of an M-series.
Man, I want to buy a Leica SL one day. I love my Leica Q and I think I’d enjoy the SL for personal work as well. One thing I’ve heard is that the SL has similar colour science to the Q: have you noticed any similarity?
I think they are close but not exactly, they share the same sensor but somehow it looks better on the Q in my opinion
@@hunterhart1 Good to know, thanks dude!
Field curvature is what you meant I think. It’s not a good sign as far as lens quality is concerned, but I guess it was probably a cheaper “character” lens.
Bingo
After some research, apparently the first version of the Leica lens dealt with the same issue.
Firstly, great video and photography. Your video was populated to my feed probably because I have been doing research on the SL. My “work” cameras are my old and older Canon DSLR’s. A 5DIV and a 1DsIII are my worker tools. I throw in my Sony A7ii or a6000 as back ups at times. My film cameras and my EDC Fujifilm XPro 2 are my for “me” personal work cameras. I have been trying to justify a Leica SL as another personal work camera. It is not lighter than my 5DIV. Nor will it give me markedly better AF. It will allow me to adapt my vintage lenses including my vintage Leica glass. Does it make more sense to get a modern Sony or Canon?
I just had this discussion yesterday with someone. I think it makes sense if you need the things they offer like faster and continuous AF, eye AF, stabilization and video specs. But as I am a single dot focus person, most cameras work for me and I don’t use eye af very often on the cameras that I have with that ability, so for me it can be overkill. Having an EVF on the other hand is so nice for adapting lenses since you can see what the hell is going on. It’s all about preference. My last video hit on this a bit if you’d like to check that out!
Great photos 👏🏻 But I can’t help but feel there’s some magic missing compared to the images you captured with the GFX and the GF 45mm and Mitakon 65. It’s subtle, but the GFX really added something extra.
I’d say it’s not subtle, I can easily tell the difference in the images. I do appreciate the GFX and the images it produces but I didn’t appreciate the way it mage me shoot them.
I like your pictures. Very moody. Some reminds my of Saul Leiters style
Thank you very much, looking him up now!
Oh wow, what a compliment! THANK YOU!
Consistently great content 👌🏻
Thanks man, right back at you! Killing it over there.
oh man, time to considering dropping the m10 for the SL... lol.
Love this..very nice and the style of your channel..
Thanks man! Can’t wait to see your video on the 5D
I bought an r6mii after I sold my Leica Q and Im honestly kicking myself for not jumping into the SL world. So many more lenses and I love Leica. Ive bought a few rf lenses so Im in deep but I do wonder when I need to cut the head off and go back home😆
Ahhh man the R6 is a great camera too. Just a different feeling. Would you go SL2? Sigma is my favorite lens manufacturer so that’s a big plus for me.
@@hunterhart1 Honestly id probably go sl2s.
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos I always recommend renting one to see how it feels to ya. Hope ya get what ya need man
Could you tell me about shooting in such strong light without a ND filter?
My max shutter speed is 1/8000 - ISO 100. I’ve never had a problem shooting outside. I could see a need for ND for video but not for photo unless you’re trying to get a certain effect
Nice shots. Maybe you should try lenses from Meyer-Optik-Goerlitz, handmade in Germany and with L mount.
I have so many lenses to review at the moment but I’ve seen those lenses. Do you have one?
@@hunterhart1 Not yet, but I'll buy one when I get a Leica SL. I'm on M240 and MP240 now.
@@paulsehstedt6275 ahh I loved my M240, great camera.
Okay 😁👍🏼. That’s actually interesting, how is the AF of the SL? Usable ?
You’re going to be sad about this but I haven’t used an AF lens on it at all. I will be soon though and can get back to you on that.
@@hunterhart1 haha that’s nice 😅🙉🤙🏽..
But I’m thinking about a Leica camera for a long time.. the m10 would be a dream but that rangefinder thing + only MF is not for me I think 🤔😏. The Q/Q2 could be an option, but only 28 mm. The SL is cheaper und u get AF + changeable lenses.
Do u think the SL could be a replacement for my Sony A7iii that I’m actually don’t use that much and a addition for my beloved X Pro3? 🥹
@@E.S.87 so in some of my earlier terrible quality videos you could tell how much I loved my Q and the M240 (too slow though). The SL had the same sensor as the original Q and I’m assuming the same AF speed which to me isn’t bad unless you’re doing anything in continuous AF, which I don’t really.
The A7iii beats all of these cameras on paper in just about every way but to me it’s more about how the camera makes you feel. I still have 2 A7iiis that I never use (my wife used one and the other is for emergency or if I’m being lazy). The thing here is… why do I never pick up the Sony? It’s just not fun. It’s a work horse and designed that way. All of the Leica cameras that I’ve had have been very enjoyably to use. I do have to say that I found myself using an external evf for my M240 when shooting wide open to get critical focus so if you get the M10 you may end up in that situation. If you’re someone who stops down it wouldn’t be a concern. The lenses are over priced so I’d get something M mount 3rd party unless you’re just slinging cash.
The Leica Q is top notch but of course limiting with the 28 but such a fun camera to use.
The SL is a lot more affordable and has the great design and sensor, overall a joy to use.
Any camera can be replaced with another camera, it just depends on your personal preference. I’m choosing any modern Leica camera over my Sony 90% of the time just because of the fun and creative aspect. That’s just me though.
also the LLL 35mm has amazing tonal range from it's single coated and rare glass used in the elements. Definitely mimics that MF look for sure.
It's best to have both SL and M9.🙂🙂🙂
You can send me both so I can try that out 😅
3:05 pretty sure that’s a wild field curvature. Ted Forbes (Art of Photography) has a really good video about field curavture
There is some kind of problem with tort audio. I'm using the iPhone UA-cam app and when I go full screen the audio is muffuled. It's because when you go full screen it's trying to use the ear speak and it's splitting it to stereo?
I've seen this issue when watching UA-cam on mobile browsers also.
Idk I just looked at it and so did my wife, no problem on our side. 🤷🏽♂️ sorry man 😞
@@hunterhart1 Trust me there is a problem. Maybe it's a iOS issue? When I go full screen the audio is coming out of the ear speaker.
@@bigrobotnewstoday1436 the new phones use the bottom and top speaker for more dynamic listening. I think they rolled that out on the iPhone 12.
@@hunterhart1 I just tested the video again with Safari browser and the audio is fine when going full screen but there is a issue with the iOS app. Maybe it's not all iPhones?
@@hunterhart1 I'm using a iPhone 7 Plus. I know it's a old phone but I really don't care about phones really. Maybe it's my iPhone?
I would very much like a dedicated video on that lens, and see it used for video :-)
I will work on that. Letting a friend borrow it at the moment to shoot some film. I have really enjoyed the characteristics of this lens.
@@hunterhart1 Thanks Hunter.
Some advice for me : put the Light Lens Lab in your video title, your video put a lot of its focus on how the lens behave and how it is. And if you search for Light Lens Lab it hardly show up in youtube search ;)
Cheers !
@@PALALALALALALA thanks man. Wasn’t really about the lens, but I’ll try that! I’m doing a stand alone video about it.
You’re doing a great photographic and artistic job! Congrats. I like the way you manage your model.
Your video was prompted to me as I was searching for SL 601 in 2023 … trying to figure out if I would make a mistake buying it now… when for nearly the same price you have the LUMIX S5ii with phase detection AF … which may be helpful for portrait shooting
What is your thought?
Don’t tell me about the Leica colors, I calibrate my cameras and there is no difference (I made the comparison between the S1R and the SL2 which I sold as I didn’t like the interface… see my videos…)
Hey man, thanks for watching and thanks for the compliment.
I think you answered your own question. If you need fast and reliable AF get the S5ii, it’s light years ahead of this camera. Not even in the same category other than the mount honestly.
I like the build of the SL, the menu system of Leica and how it handles. I tried the S5ii and there were too many things going on in the menu and just the build of it wasn’t my favorite. Cool camera though, I considered getting one before this as well but just didn’t need bells and whistles. I have cameras with all that stuff already.
Hope this helps.
@@hunterhart1 thanks a lot for your answer.
You nailed it!
I have S1 and S1R and I like all the possibilities they offer
But yeah. Sometimes I would like simplicity and I love the design of the 601… much more than the SL2
I’m just wondering if going backward in functionality so far behind won’t make me regret.
On the other side I’m a Nikon guy using their flagship DSLR’s for years and I’m so used to manipulating heavy cameras with plenty of buttons to address a lot of functions…
But yeah, simplicity… sometimes can be good…
@@DidierMOULINPhotography I think the SL as a secondary camera is great, wouldn’t use it as a primary.
@@hunterhart1 did you use it with AF lenses as SL lenses from Leica?
How is the AF in terms of reliability ?
@@DidierMOULINPhotography I used an 85mm for a short period of time on it and it seemed fine but didn’t put it through its paces. It’s no Sony
I traded a GFX 100 for a Leica S3. Not surprised
feel dejavu, do you re upload this video? I remember already watched it last time
Had to fix the sound
Feel free to watch the entire thing again 😂
@@hunterhart1 ah ok then, will watch it again :D
@@rodetyo 😅 thanks man you’re awesome
Hi Hunter ... about your move to the Leica SL etc. … when I look at your photos, it makes NO difference at all to me with which camera / lens you photograph. The pictures are ALL "outstandig" and have their own "Hunter style".
If you get more comfortable with the SL, there is no need to justify it. You even manage to take good pictures with every camera … and manual focus too, which I can't!
And one more thing: many of your pictures also "live" from the fact that you obviously build up a good relationship with your models. And that is much more worth than the camera or a certain lens ... I understand that you also experiment a bit and nerdily search for your best solution. It is not meant disrespectfully, but even this phase also eventually passes over time ...
Keep on going! Kind regards, cheers & peace 😂🍻🎈
Thanks man! I’m a super nerd with gear in a sense, but don’t need the latest and greatest. I need something fun and allows a bit more creativity.
I think this comment is going to push me to talk more about my approach and less about my gear, although that’s what most people want to hear about.
Thanks so much for your really awesome comment. And as always, thanks for watching.
@@hunterhart1 … you're welcome, and your always great stuff … love you work.
@@photohp2202 🥹🙏🏼
it's field curvature :)
mmmm ...... I went the opposite way because I found the SL too limiting in a number of aspects ...... and the SL + SL lens is certainly no lighter than the GFX + native lenses.
To each is their own, but what limitations did you have if you don’t mind me asking.
My not digital Leica M?
I had the M240 for a year, reviewed it and carried on. I’ll eventually go back to the range finder, it’ll always be the most enjoyable camera in my opinion but really loving the SL for now.
@@hunterhart1 I see, thank you. If I ever can afford it I will also go for digital Leica M.
@@kevlarnegative they’re fun to use but very overpriced for what you get. The experience is fun but can be very frustrating
@@hunterhart1 I shoot the M6 on regular basis so no worries. I am well aware of what I would be getting into. I want the same but digital, no thrills, no gadgets no fus but thanks 🙏
M and SL are just different and both have a place if one can afford it.
why the SL and not a M10 version or even the M11?
i just find the SL such an unattractive camera... and if you just use manual focus lenses why even bother.
Because I do what I want. Best part of being a human that’s not incarcerated.
DO you😁
I used both .
I did the opposite choice . The Gfx with his lenses is undurpassed.
Leica needs to hurry up and sponsor
Don’t you know a guy?
some interesting images. maybe convert some to B&W to get some dynamic contrast. Also maybe have the model wear something sexy.
Thanks for the riveting advice.
@@hunterhart1 I am just comparing your model shots with ones I have been looking at by Matt Osborne in how he uses models and shoots mainly in B&W so that is my reference point. But I can see you are a very talented photographer for sure! keep up the good work!
@@mpw621 I’m just not a boudoir photographer. I have a ton of black and whites though, just don’t show them as much. You should check out my instagram @thehunterhart for black and white and @hunterhartphoto for my normal work!
@@hunterhart1 I will check them out. I know, Matt gets all those sexy chicks as models!
Why a woman has to wear something sexy? All this "sexy" pics aren't original sorry. It's really boring.
A bit nebulous, to be kind...
Kind of like life in general if you ask me
Leica is Rich people’s toy lol wish I was rich 😢
Hell, I wish I was rich too
You can buy a used SL for less then a Nikon: Z7, 8's and 9.
You can get Leica gear at every price point as they have been making stuff for a very long time. Just consider the discontinued lines, like the old Barnacks or the R-System for film or the CL/TL-System for digital. I bought my first Leica camera (digital) for 399 Euros.
The lens is not a replica it’s a Chinese knock off 👎
Oh you tried them both?