Are These Cheap Ebay Locking Tuners Any Good?? Review / Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2018
- By popular demand, we're going to check out the locking tuner set that's available on Ebay for about $12! Do these suck or what?
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An honest straight forward review is what we ask for and you always deliver. Thanks for the great job.
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Just a thought, use the old screws from the back of the tuners you take out. That way you don't risk splitting your headstock if the new screws are slightly bigger. Great video, Max. It's good to see a review that gives an honest appraisal, identifying problems and not just "gushing" about how awesome they are to please the manufacturer!! Thank you.
I only recently found you via a video by Dan (Guns and Guitars). You both seem to have the same attitude of NO BS ALLOWED!! How refreshing! Thanks again from a new subscriber!
Thanks Phil!
3 years ago I started playing guitar. 💪🏾Watched your first video with this 🎸 and bought my own cheap strat copy shortly after for a beat up guitar. And after today I ended up buying new tuners for it. Thanks for everything bud. 🤘🏾
I had the same problem with those made in China tuners, it is money badly spent. However, I tried the made in Korea version (around $25) and it made a BIG difference. Korean tuners are so smooth and stay in tune, almost like Japanese quality
Your B-roll is great, locations, camera angles...just pro stuff man. Cheers! Chris.
MAX- I appreciate your videos and respect your opinion because you know what its like to be on a budget and sometimes that budget isn't great. I've been looking for a good deal on locking tuners and your video here helped me out alot. I feel like I owe ya! :)
Great video Max. Please keep 'em coming. I have a set of these on a warlock. One was jammed up so I backed off the thunbscrew and wedged a tiny allen key in the posthole. That freed up the tuner. since then they're great.
Thanks for the accurate informative review. I always love your intros.
Love your videos Max. You are one of the most honest and transparent reviewer! Thanks.
I bought this same set and had the same issues. 2 tuner shafts were rusted and one broke while being loosened. The eBay vendor sent another set free of charge and between the 2 sets I got 6 good ones and a few spares. The shaft diameters and knobs are smaller then those of better quality. I still had to make a cheater loop for the 2 high strings to hold well. I since have bought Hipshots including the Universal Bracket which you can find for $50 and they are way better. I hate spending money but tuners aren't the place to be thrifty.
Its never disappointing to watch Max's videos, always informative and honest. 👍 as usual.
Thanks!
I had a similar experience with a set of Chinese Ebay locking tuners that went on my Hofner Shorty travel guitar. None broke, but 2 of them would not lock down. I contacted the seller, who sent me 3 replacements. But the shaft length in the replacements was the same as the shaft length in the ones I had (that didn't lock down). At the time, the $CAD hadn't tanked, so they only cost about $12.50 per set. But after several months of intermittent fiddling, the stock tuners went back on. Hofner's stock tuners are pretty good quality, even if non-locking. Love this low-budget mod project, Max.
Thanks for the video. I also have a cheap strat clone ("Tenson"), which I got to learn the basics of guitar repairs/maintainence/upgrade. Dual rail humbuckers are ordered on ebay, next thing will be the tuners. Its amazing what you can actually get from some of those cheap guitars with a few hours of work.
I got a set of these and one shaft wasnt straight to the thumbwheel. Managed to fix them and they work well enough. I also put little bit Vaseline in the gears and that made a huge difference to the feel of them.
Love this channel, Max. Thanks for the great videos!
I have an enormous appreciation vids like these! Work-A-Day musician giving it straight! Keep it up!
Thank you max that helps a lot as am about to change over to locking tuners now i have a an informed choice...cheers bud....
I bought a set of locking 21:1 tuners from a company called Guyker on Amazon. I was using them in a 3X3 configuration though. The finish on them is incredible, beautiful chrome.
But the same thing happened. The thumb wheels for locking down the string was jammed on 4 of them. I messaged the company and they gave me a month to mail back the defective set. And the machining was also off.
The next set they sent me were a little better. So, I did what Max did. Put one working set together from two. They took the bad tuners back and corrected the billing. I did put just a half a drop of 3 in 1 oil on the locking pin/thumbscrew threads, worked them around a little and they work well now. They fit right in where a set of Grover tuners were, that I took out to put in one of my other guitars. 36 bucks though. They look nice. The company logo is on the back of the tuners. All is well so far. On a six in line, I will always use Fender locking tuners. They are the best, though hardest to install exactly straight if the two locating holes for the tuners pins are not exactly drilled.
The Amoon strat has changed so much since the first vid!
You are the best person to explain the issue. Thanks.
Luv your vids bro! Always concise, detailed and easy to follow info1 Keep up the good workk Max! Peace=out! Manydogs
So glad I came here to see this video first. In the picture from Ebay, they look so well made!
I got one for my strat. The wiring was easy. Black to the 5 way toggle switch neck position post. Green and stripped wire to the back of the column pot as ground. White and red tin with solder and cover with shrink sleeve wrap or electrical tape. White and red are used if coil tap is the wiring. Otherwise, it's the same wiring as the pick up removed. He is so right. Way easy to do yourself. Harbor freight solder gun worked perfect.
I think it'd be awesome to see you review the Amazon/eBay DIY build kit guitars
Very interesting. You always have great info. I bought some for about 20 bucks from Dragonfire Guitar Parts, as well as having bought pickups, etc, from them, and I've always had great luck. Thie pickups which are really inexpensive are made by Artec which are made in S Korea I believe, and not bad.
Anyway, good stuff. Thanks man. Really appreciate what you do.
Thanks! Good call about the Dragonfire tuners! I'll check those out!
Guitar MAX I'd like to see a Dragonfire invaders type pickups upgrade to your black "flame" metal guitar - haven't seen a good review on the crusaders yet. Thanks for doing what you do!
bought a set of the Jin Ho brand locking tuners a while ago (they look just like yours) and the problem with the chinese stuff is that the first thousand or so is fine and and then the machines get a bit out of alignment and they don't fix that right away due to lousy QC so some of these are fine but you may encounter a grinder in the mix you get... i have a couple out of 6 in line... i packed the gear with silicone grease and it helped, but the grinders still grind... i want to use a string winder on a drill and turn the thing a few hundred times and see if it smoothes out, clean it and then reassemble and grease it again... hopefully that works... these were like $35 to $40... also, with my squier mex tele i had to enlarge the holes from 8mm to 10mm, fill all the screw holes with maple toothpicks and sand them smooth and redrill, so installation can get a bit more involved than you experienced...
I bought a set at a similar price so I assume that they were the same. Firstly, they were advertised as 19:1 but the ones which arrived were 15:1 - when the locking wheel is completely removed, the teeth on the cog can be counted. The insides looked a bit rough and nothing like the high-tech images in the advert. Secondly, similar to the video, the locking pin became unscrewed from the locking wheel on two of them. I replaced the pin with a drop of superglue and tightened it as much as I could but I don't feel confident that when I come to replace a string, the wheel will unscrew from the pin rather than the pin unscrewing from the tuner. For three other guitars, I ended up buying Planet Waves auto-trim locking tuners at £65 per set. They are 18:1 and cut string change time down to as little as about 30 seconds each if you put yourself on a stopwatch. They also feel pretty solid and look good. The problem that I have with locking tuners in general, though, is that none of them fit any of my Fender guitars without having to drill guide holes into the headstock which I feel averse to doing.
Thanks for doing this review. I was literally just looking at these last night on eBay for my similarly built “Irin” guitar I got on eBay for $48.48. I still may pick a set for the sake of keeping this complete mod falling under $100. But I appreciate the heads up regarding their quality.
I see this is an old thread, but if your new hardware fails in three months, will the time and money you spend replacing them still keep you under your arbitrary $100 limit? I mean, 1 in four of these were unusable out of the box. Also, total cost is horrible as a primary design goal. Do the tuners you have now even NEED to be replaced, as in, do they work at all? If not, then yeah, a $15 set would be an upgrade, but you probably would have returned the guitar if that were the case. Poorly built locking tuners aren't going to keep it in tune any better than poorly built standard ones, and probably won't last as long.
Thanks for the tip. It was cool to see a cheap guitar brand like amoon, in a video .ive also seen Kurt cobain play cheaper guitars in nirvana concerts. These cheaper guitars can be modded like you have shown and it great fun and satisfaction. Great vid and lesson on locking tuners....
Can. We. Reach. 22 millónSubs Crayfish geez can you believe it? I think he bought one of his Fender Mustang for 20$
Always save the old set. Put them in a sealable sandwich bag and keep them just in case. Have the new tuners got any access holes that you could lube them? That would help with longevity.
Thanks for being honest on your videos.
I must be lucky bought 3 sets they all work just fine,you do want to tighten up the thumb wheel and look through the holes and save one that closes all the way up in the hole so it will hold the small e string. I had to change a couple around on first set I installed because shaft that locks string was a little to short to hold the string.
You the man Max! I’m astonished by the quality to value ratio of the ammoon guitars. The LP style guitar just flat out jams. I’m looking at their “pod” style effects processor and the 2.4ghz wireless transmitter set. Do you have any experience with either of those? Curious if they’re worth the $40
I bought a Similar cheap brand that worked but I run into a similar problem with string breakage. As far as the plain steel strings I like to give some slack so I can at least wrap around the post 2-4 times so the edge of the hole does not snap the string. I get that regardless what tuner knob I get. I have better luck by at least not pulling the string tight and locking it with a little slack.
Very good review! I have a set of these, in the chrome finish, on the way. Hopefully they all work ok. I have never used locking tuners before. How hard do you have to tighten the thumb screw? Not incredibly hard I assume?
Great review. Looks like if their quality control was a little better they would have a fantastic product.
I had sorta the same... 2 had the pins that hold the strings in place stuck, but with a very small flat head screwdriver I went into the string hole and popped them loose. Worked fine after that.
I tried a couple, "HipShot" seemed to be pretty good. Staggered heights and with the backing plates, no reaming out holes and no screws.
Thanx Max.
(I just got a $100 Tele, and it's not bad, but could do with some better tuners. Thanks again for the heads up.)
Great Vid!
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I've been shopping for new tuners for a Black Squire Strat project. Ordered 2 sets as you suggested and will get them in 10 days.
Cool! Give us a report when you get them!
Will do. At the same time, I ordered 3 of the $12 Hot Rail Humbucker you reviewed. Will report back on both.
I got black locking guitar tuners from guitar fetish for my MX250 copy and they work great. Surprisingly good quality.
Purchased two of these sets, one 6 in line and one 3R+3L and no issues, but i purchased them from aliexpress and they were about 30 USD so a bit more expensive. Never had quality locking tuners so i do not know how to compare these, but they do stay in tune and have a good ratio on them 18:1 and 19:1.
Have you ever tried the Cozart strats and teles sold on eBay. They usually have a veneer top. They sell for around 125 bucks. A lot have ash bodies
I’m shopping for tuners I’m glad I watched this.
You get what you pay for,
sometimes you pay for what you get
same thing happened to me...Wilkinson makes really good inexpensive hardware..i've had really good results with them..just got wilk ez lock tuners...there is zero wiggle in the shaft, very solid and smooth feel.
There are a ton of copies of Gotoh vintage/traditional Magnum lock 3x3 tuners on ebay and aliexp. It would be interesting to see if they are any good.
Would love to hear your thoughts on these guitars
Kramer Striker 211 Custom
Kramer SM-1
ESP LTD MH-203QM
Hey Max, would you do a review of a 70's style strat guitar that is not to expensive? I love the 70's strat the big body and head stock but I've yet to find a copy of this type of guitar.
2:30 “turned it so hard the thumb screw came off” maybe if you weren’t built like you beat people up for fun you would break shit lmao. nice video max
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I ordered a set of these, but only received a single one, because of a deceptive Ebay listing. Gotta really go through those listing details before you order.
I scanned the comments to see if anyone else caught it. But, the sleeves you're referring to are called Ferrules. Thanks.
Lol, 2 of the 6 of. Mine were bad in my set too, I returned them and spent 30 bucks on a different set on Amazon, and it's great.
SAY IT LIKE IT IS.
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Waz gonna get some Wilkinson.....Don't know anymore.
GoToh for affordable quality tuners sounds better to me for bass.
Superb intro, man.
Rock on!!!!!
Great upgrade
I always go for the vanson tuners they are really good and they are around the same price as two of the sets that you used in this video
I have that installed in my cort g110 and 3 where frozen so i used a tool to loosen it up and there they go haha just keep track with your tuning because they slip once in a while.
max I love your style could I learn to play like you I just bought an ibanez gio I just put some dragonfire pickups on it. Now I need lock in tuners I'm doing the fret work using 100 grit an 200 grit right now my frets are so rough right now
Max, would u play a shuffle of all your guitars in a video. It would've been nice if you do so, because you are amazing
If you want locking tuners that are very very nice but at a fair price get your self some Kaish or Guyker. The Kaish ones are modeled after KLuson style and Guyker is modeled after Hipshot. They're very nice working locking tuners. No slop and very smooth and precise.
your reviews are awesome!! have you ever played breedlove?? I'm looking at one and don't know anyone who has played one. if so, what do you think about them?? my poor Jenny Leigh ( my 26 year old Oscar Schmidt) is going to be retired soon.
Hi Max, Kluson MS33C for € 23.00 by Thomann and they are perfect. I had also that tuners you have and they where really crap.
Thanks for the info Tommy!
If you order from aliexpres and its cheap or something has nultiple parts you better always buy 2 because you know stuff is going to be broken. You can always ask your money back if you received broken parts. If you didnt you can resell the second set
I use Gotoh or Fender locking tuners they are worth the price but this is really cool trying to use a budget one 2 out of 3 ain't bad lol
Can you review Wilkinson tunning pegs i heard that there great for the price but i dont know who to trust
holy shit i was just looking at these today and contemplating buying them, just my luck u made a video today huh? aha
I bought a chrome set for my Schecter. There was no defect to them and I'd say they're "okay". My Schecter is a lower end student-level guitar (C-1 SGR) so I wasn't too fussed about it. I wouldn't recommend them for higher-end guitars. The dude says you don't have to wrap them around the post, just "lock" and tighten to pitch...but I felt more comfortable getting at least 1 wrap around the post. YMMV.
I had the same experience. Indeed be prepared to order 2 sets and send back the bad ones.
I think the way you brilliantly play a guitar you would make any guitar sound fabulous
I installed those on a harmony strat one locker was stripped out they are stiff as can be and I had to drill the tuner holes out to get them to fit in the headstock. you get what you pay for people.
Stupid question, what tool were you using to spin the tuning pegs??? It sure made taking the slack out of the strings an awful lot easier!!!
Looked like it was attached to a cordless drill maybe??? Whatever it was, it was pretty slick :-) Excellent video sir !!!
I bought a set recently as a test and all 6 worked! I'm probably just lucky but it might be because I bought them in gold which is a little pricier, either way super happy :)
I've noticed almost all the locking tuners have that self tapping screw, is that to stop any possibility of the tuner rotating out of position?
Are these considered left hand tuners? I was told that for a straight 6 set there are left (like these) and a right set if they are on the other side of the headstock.
Thank You!
Another killer review
Thanks Max!
question, those individual tuners have numbers engraved near the rotating post, like L1 L2 L3 etc. , which one is for the 1st E String? , is it the L1 or L6?
LEGEND! I like your anti snobbery attitude it is uber cool. wish to say that for 26 $ you can get great working tuners from Ali site or E-bay search for ''Jin Ho'' locking they make same for wilkinson, schaler etc 50% of ''big brand'' are made by them...Also you have GFS in USA, have you try any of their stuff? would like to see some honest review. cheers and all the best , shred on !
I've tried some GFS pickups, and they were pretty solid. I'll checkout their tuners!
I’ve gotten a lot of stuff from GFS. Bridges, tailpieces, knobs, tuners, pickups. Pickups are hit or miss as far your personal taste like any other pickup. I only had one item I didn’t like and it was locking tuners exactly like this video with the thumb wheel on the back. One of the tuners just never seemed to grip the string tight enough and eventually stripped it from tightening too hard to compensate for lack of grip. Pretty much anytime I’m upgrading a bridge I get it from gfs. High quality every time.
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So I went and bought these cheap ass locking tuners off eBay for like $12.00 thinking that they would be perfect for my Fender project. I have to say that I have never bought such a worthless cheap piece of crap in all my life.
Yes, I know you get what you pay for, but this is ridiculous. I saw Thor over at Guitar Max do a review on UA-cam for the same tuners and he had some of the similar problems.
For starters, they are made out of some die cast garbage pot metal. The only thing weaker than this fugazi metal is my self-control around Cannolli's.
If you tighten the eyeglass screw too much you WILL crack the housing as you can see I've done on more than one. The only thing with more cracks would be the Carter in New Jack City and these tuners are by far the Pookie of all tuners.
Next, the things are so hard to turn you may consider locking a vice grip on them. I've been able to turn locking lug nuts on a U-Haul truck easier than these shit-sticks.
The finish looks like it was applied with a Sharpie marker but that would devalue Sharpie.
Next, they come with these humungous, oversized washers for the headstock side. I have no idea why they used these they look blatantly out of place. The only thing with bigger washers is Maytag.
Over all- these are friggin worthless and I think the good folks at YoYasusamusgofuckayaselfa made an utterly shitty product with no tangible value. I would strongly advise against buying these unless your sole purpose is to see if your blood pressure medicine is working properly.
That made my entire fucking day
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I got a 3 - 3 from Kmise on Amazon, seem identical, same $12, no issues at all. noticed the string trees were off, are they not needed now ? thanks
Man, you are an amazing and technical flawless player. I would buy you a cheap ass guitar but cool guitar or pay for just one Zoom lesson. Think about it.
Hey I have a odd question are the fretboard and neck separate prices of wood? I love your videos thanks!
Hey there! Usually they are. Some maple necks have the fretboard and neck as the same piece, but typically they are separate pieces, glued together.
@@GuitarMAXMusic thanks man!
So I am guessing once on the tuners are nice and tight and the post isn't loose or turn back on it's own while you play?
So glad I found this chan recently everyone just does the same ole shit. My favorite guitar is a cheap LTD I modded the hell out of over the years. I pick it up more than any of my nicer guitars. Not to mention the learning process is nice and you end up with a guitar you're more attached to regardless of cost.
Hey Max! What brand of humbucking hot rails you got on that thing? I have wanted to do the same thing!
Hey Midi! They are (also) cheap Ebay pickups. Checkout my "Upgrading the Ammoon Strat" video on my channel. I go over the details of the pickup swap in that one. Actually I think I put a link in the video description of this video.
weird....I was just looking at these yesterday. Thanks.
Do having locking tuners renders the 2 little bridges useless then? On Start type guitars I mean.
Love the videos
I love the Fender locking tuners on my strats and teles. These cheap Chinese tuners look almost identical to the locking tuners on my Schecter Hellraiser. So I took a gamble. I ordered one set (3x3's) and they worked fine on an Epiphone LP100. So I ordered two more sets and only ten of the twelve worked. The vendor said he'd send me another two tuners. I've received nothing and the opportunity to leave feedback has expired. I'm guessing I"m SOL. So I ordered a fourth set to finish the third guitar.
Another thing, do not over tighten them. They will break strings.
You’re like rick graham lol I wonder who would win in a guitar battle and bodybuilding battle lol great videos! I’m also a guitar player and amateur bodybuilder. how did you get so bulky tho??? do you eat a lot or take creatine or something? I’m not ultra bulky like you lol I’m 6’0 at 170 pounds. I wanna be bulky tho lol how did you do it?? I’m garbage at guitar and it seems like I either bodybuild or play guitar. How did you find a good time to do both and be good at them. thanks max 👍🏻
Nice job on that strat.
Thanks
Hi. Are the tuners still working? I'm seriouly thinking of ordering some.
Can you help me? I need 2 pin staggered tuners but not 5he b8g fender but the smaller 2 pin for a schector strat neck.l9ck8ng would be fine but I need staggered. I think they had ping tuners. Ive ordered 2 sets of lock8ng fender and 1 set of kaish and all 3 are too big to l9ne up with the 2 pin holes.
bought a set a few weeks ago and guess what ?? 2 of mine were stripped ! the seller sent me a replacemaent set and three of them were almost frozen in place . after some finessing along with a whole lot of cussing i finnally made a set of six out of them. i do not recomend them at all.
Would these work on nylon stringed acoustic guitars?
Yo how would you go about setting these up with a brand new neck
I got 2 pairs of these a few months back. Mine were garbage, completely unusable. The locking part is too long to hold the low E and A strings. With a dremel you can fix that issue but still something to point out. They ended up in the recycling bin haha
How is the finish on the tuners, do they look nice?
I took my risk and ordered a set of these tuners, none of them unusable but then again they don't have the best of "feel" during tuning, do feel cheap but once set they are in tune.
Hey max have you checked out stratosphere parts .com they have a Wilkerson Standard and lock-in tuners for the price that you paid for both set