You’re not wrong. I’m probably one of the oldest and biggest Phantasy Star fans. The way the game is right now I’d rather play First Descendant, and that just breaks my heart.
Well with NGS as it is right now I also have been playing quite a bit of First Descendant. I do plan on making content for that game very soon for those interested 👍
I’m in the same boat. Been into the franchise since PSO on GameCube. Within last two years, I have not seen an update that makes me want to get back into the NGS. Been playing TFD as well as the remake of the retro Castlevania games
I have no clue what is going on at Sega but what I can say is, is the alarming lack of story content in this game, lack of gameplay, lack of new unique content overall after roughly 4 years is staggering. Base had it's downtimes but not 4 years of it nonstop. Sega needs to put most if not all of their resources into this game otherwise it will fail. They need to stop giving PSO2 the back seat or this will be another IP of theirs that will fall into obscurity. They try to hide it all with a Nintendo Direct style presentation and marketing collaborations but the evidence is clear that this is nothing more than a form of misdirection and Sega's level of overall focus on PSO2 has been negligent at best. I am genuinely worried for the future of this game.
Yeaaaah you're out of your mind lol. Genshin is a great gacha game but it doesn't come close to the big dog jrpgs like persona, final fantasy or a number of others I could name. 99%? You're genuinely crazy if you believe that lol. It's better than a lot of other games but there are tons of games better than genshin, at the end of the day it just doesn't have the depth other games can and do have because it's a mobile gacha game. It's definitely a step in the right direction of making those kind of games feel more aligned with actual games that aren't primarily focused on gambling. Lol gachas barely have a proper difficulty curve since you just dump resources to gain levels whenever you want. Never say this blasphemy again@@GarlicAvenger
@@GarlicAvenger hard disagree lol, having a personal opinion is fine, don't say it's 99.99%, there are many greater gachas out there that you don't even know exist hoyofan
Good to know that the game is as stale as ever after 4 years. Freeing up so much storage space never felt so amazing by deleting NGS. Man.. i really miss base game
Honestly this makes me laugh reminiscing the times when people back then doesnt care about ep6 contents cuz pso2NGS was coming. Boy oh boy luckily i was not in that camp
Tbf expecting something good out of the headline will just lead to disappointment. Even seeing the roadmap up until the end of year lowers my expectations for this game. I'm still sticking around to do dailies and selling stuff for meseta though.
I have to agree with the closing thoughts I find myself not caring for most of the stuff on that roadmap. NGS just isn't fun anymore and I really wish Sega would invest more money into NGS outside of collaborations. All the money NGS makes just goes to whatever Sonic related thing Sega is working on next. Maybe it's time to shut down the EN/Global NGS servers since they lost a ton of players at launch and Sega hasn't done anything to bring back the players that left.
We NEED interactive collab events. LTQs or field events to interact with and unlock cosmetics with it. It'd make the game worth checking out at least just to get some neat cool stuff just by playing the game. WE DONT NEED AN AC SCRATCH FOR EVERYTHING
I lived through the dryest years of Warframe and it wasn't even nearly this level of bad. When Warframe in my opinion is overflown with content, NGS just gives you stuff... and takes it away. And I'm not even talking about loot drops.
What a shame It still feels like we're in a loop of 2020 with this game, repeats of "Limited time events" and "seasonals" as well as emotes/costumes for the whales to farm for player engagement. I used to be optimistic for NGS, and I used to love PSO2, playing it while it was still region locked to Japan I wish I could go back to the base game. Yeah, sure... People can enter the base game at anytime, but what's the point anymore if it's not being updated, and more people stay on New Genesis? Just this week, I decided to revisit NGS to see the Mars update, I was in shock seeing how they've left it untranslated on global release, that showed to me a lack of care and respect for this game. It was a rush-out the door. And I won't accept that from a company like Sega. They're approaching the release of their third Sonic movie, acquired Rovio, own Atlas. and yet they're still treating NGS like an afterthought? If that's the case, I won't waste anymore of my time with New Genesis. I'm glad I've moved onto greener pastures.
Been saying this for awhile.. there just doesn’t seem to be any passion or care for the game at all. The game had a bad launch and we gave them the benefit of the doubt. 2 years later hardly anything had changed minus new regions to keep some people satisfied. NGS 2.0 was like a selling point for them to get people to return, and a bit of people did, just to realize the only notable addition was creative spaces. They promise and never deliver. It’s so backwards to me because I don’t understand how a franchise could have regressed so extremely in quality compared to its previous titles. I check in every once in awhile to see if things change and they never do, so I never have hopes for headlines anymore. Unfortunate. Game has so much potential - I’ve seen indie dev teams make greater strides with massive updates in higher quantity than what sega has pushed out. And Sega has MORE THAN ENOUGH resources to make this game incredible, it’s a multi billion dollar company. There’s nothing to do in NGS. Game is soulless. Just has fashion going for it
Sega already knows the game is a sinking ship, playerbase is going down even more, they investing on collab scratchs to fetch more cash, monetization and new payed features, content feels like they just recoloring things and call it content, i mean i will say people will hv to start looking for another game to go, cause pso2 ngs might not be here for longer then expected, the only way this franchise survives if they already developing pso3. I must add this, i seen the roadmap, how is that taking so long to develop? cause i can bet a small indie team could produce the entire roadmap in 6 months, that roadmap bring nothing into the game, its just more of the same, where is the NEW CONTENT, they literaly throwing sand at players, this fckers are lazy and should be fired.
What kills the game is the slow release of things. When I started at launch and grinded to get 1st, 2nd, 3rd, all the way to 5th generations equipment... if things got released all at once (like normal), I could've skipped around. Grinded for the better stuff. Plus it is bam bam range, bam bam melee, bam bam tech... no tact, no enemy talks, nothing but a big game that doesn't respect the time you put in.
Sega only adds things, when they start to see that, they can't hold off any longer, like Aug transfer should of been there ages ago if not at the start of ngs since the Aug transfer was in base game. They are slowing bringing out enemies, areas, costumes and accessories, along with features from base when it should of already of been available at ngs and bring new ideas and things to ngs that people want and not the card game lol. All we getting is mostly a new enemy, weapon and armor to then grind to level up and spend, only for a few months to do it all over again with not much stuff to do with your character at that level anyways, this is insane people need to wake up!
Hate to say it, but NGS is kind of boring right now. This update they showed doesn't feel like something I want to do, only makes me want to stay away from the game. Probably the only thing the game has going for it, is the fashion. Glad The First Descendant came out in time, been having a lot of fun in the game (season 1 is kind of lame atm).
I’ve finally started to drop off now. Iog in and get the free scratch. Can’t even be bothered to do daily tasks anymore. I’ve gone back to playing psobb on ephinea.
Come play phantasy star online blue burst on private server Ephinea. 1000 times more enjoyable/rewarding than this monetized garbage.... This is coming from someone who put in 3000 hrs into the game (base and NGS combined).
luckly Ephinea just added Right controller stick for manual camera behabing like PSU or PSO2, so the barrier of entry for that game was lower now if not gone. had a blast for 2 days with my FOnewearl Gizondeing enemies, its as satisfying as Zondeing on NGS a bit hard to aim despite already activates the right stick but still many times more fun(and we get that Funny looking Newman Costume xD)
I remember old pso2 the Halloween lobby theme xD and the white day theme was so relaxing doing weekly 5 quests with friends for meseta block 2 was basically the worst block back then lol it's just a shame that sega keeps making bad choices with the game now Satoshi Sakai doesn't seem to be at the helm anymore. Times have changed and they will never go back to how they were...
Appreciate the video Crit, and glad I can forgo logging in until October maybe even December 2024. If I got taken out to the same restaurant for every anniversary and all that changed was the tablecloth, I'd go find something else. I would see that there was very little effort put into what was executed and I am not valued. Luckily there are other games to play.
I keep thinking that even if this game is released worldwide, it’s still being treated like it’s an exclusively Japan/SE Asia release. I’m not expecting Pokémon, Digimon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, but the major share of these animes NGS is collaborating with, I haven’t seen an episode of and I don’t own a single manga issue.
Only one I watched was Black Lagoon which I think ended on a cliffhanger or was cancelled. I'm not sure what happened, just that the anime ended up stopping randomly and never got another season
56:30 to 56:42 - A coincidental yet perfect summary of what "went wrong" with Line Strike. It's a surprisingly great mode, SUPER fun to play... and then they consciously kept it as far away from the entire rest of the game as they could, which killed many players' interest on the spot because "no rewards". - The repetitive chores of looking at trees daily and placing 100 build parts every month? Sure, that's "the game". Here's your SG and your GP to spend on Master Fragments, Foundia and Aegis Integra. - The PSO2 casino sitting around watching roulette play itself? Yeah that's "the game" too, here's your CC to spend on unique enemy triggers and exclusive cosmetics. - An NGS card game with the actual characters on it, that can be played while queueing? Noooo, that's bad. Can't let anyone even get GP with that!! Line Strike is basically the first side content in PSO2 history (certainly on the Global side) to never give a single reward outside of itself. In a game where content that "doesn't give enough rewards" dies super fast. This decision was utterly baffling. Also yeah, I've for a long time wondered if there might be a material cost to evolving Exelio/Ektasis. People have made excuses for them being available for 2+ months before they can be evolved to NOT be worse than Eredim/EineaABS, in particular "to give players a chance to get them", but that won't count for anything if the material needed to evolve them doesn't arrive until the exchange does and they're timegated or rare.
The disrespect of playing As One in the trailer knowing we don't have keys in base game to play armada again... What has it been like 2 years since we got a new voiced OST? All the maps are bland blue laser tag ahh arenas, or literally a couple of tiles floating in the sky. The only explanation I can give is they realized NGS was going to flop and bailed out to work on a new project AGES AGO
I think going back in December time to play a bit is the best thing to do. Try play other games, don't have good hopes for Sega fixing this, they just want to milk us and it's becoming more clear as time goes past. So yeah F Sega
Game is just becoming a huge disappointment. The evolving weapons can really only be useful until base stats on new weapons come out and surpass them. Weapon chases are not content, especially when they are largely just stat increases and cosmetic changes, but no actual functional differences to make them interesting. Seems like the moment you need to transfer investments in evolving weapons to a non evolving weapon the whole usefulness of them is gone. They continue to drop more and more cosmetics than anybody has a real need for, yet they can't put out new content even though most of the story stuff is just static characters with text dialogue boxes. The MARS system is a rehash of the Dark Falz transformations in base game, but less compelling and less interesting. The bosses and level designs in the base game continue to be better than anything we get in NGS still to this day. They are spending a lot of time on additional systems nobody is asking for, I would have sacrificed line strike, creative spaces, AND the MARS system to simply get more real content. There are still more classes and better classes in the base game which I thought after a couple years now we would be FAR more ahead on than we are. At some point, the community needs to step up and say that what they are doing is NOT ENOUGH to run an ongoing game on and if this is the best they can do, they either need to invest much more into content development or rethink their strategy for this entirely. Like why did they give us NGS only to move backwards on all these aspects? Sega is not showing anyone that they actually care about this game, I would love to know what Sega is doing that they ACTUALLY care about. This game should be SO GOOD.....and it's not, because everything they give us is low effort, and we get these things at an incredibly sluggish pace. time for the content creators to step up and ask for real change for the community because it is clear they are not listening to us, there are mobile games that are treating their players with more respect than this.
@@brodiapunch Just because NGS techter is more advanced, doesn't mean we wouldn't rather have some of the missing classes from base. can't put a whole argument into a microcasm and then argue against that like it encompasses the argument.
@@intalek305 NGS Techter (Wand) isn't more advanced, but rather actually functional. Same goes with Daggers, Wired Lance, Sword, Knuckles, and Talis... These weapons got a much needed rework in NGS and it's exhausting when these facts are overlooked for the sake of "Base was better".
@@brodiapunch Buddy....every single class could be improved and it would not change the overall argument, and there are still classes missing. Even the point on classes you miss, but again, you cannot argue a small part of my argument and dismiss the argument.
@@intalek305 Was your point only related to the amount of classes? If so, base effectively has 4 if you were to look at what people actually use. Scion classes changed the meta forever, and barring a few exceptions, that's what everyone uses.
NGS EoS incoming in 2025, sometime after the DF fight and 100 cap are released. At best, NGS will be kept on permanent life support mode like how the base game is.
Doubt it'd be EoS in 2025. Most likely 2026 or 2027 if SEGA keep being as they are. Then, it's time to see if there's PSO2 classic Private Server available.
Oy. When you were going through the slides with the Line Strike additions, how they have ways to improve debuffs and gain bonuses based on elements and such, I started thinking that Line Strike may have more interesting mechanics than NGS...
Imo Game is ending after March of next year. At least it’s current form. Whether it be eos or a full revamp I think something major is going to change with NGS. Odd that the roadmap encompasses 8 months. I think that’s all the content they have planned at least for this iteration
Seeing how little people play and just sit in the lobby, i doubt the game will ever get a realm reborn style reboot, they already lost 99% of the player base weeks after launch and it never recovered
I don't know why everyone thinks the Kaiju No. 8 launcher camo is a minigun.. It's just a large caliber cannon with an obviously rifled huge single barrel... is it the recessed portions on the outside of the barrel tricking everyone?? Because that's done on large calibre barrels for weight reduction and more surface area for for more efficient heat radiation.. an example being the Mark 38 Mod 2 25mm gun the US navy uses. It has similar recessions because they want better barrel cooling as it's an Autocannon.
I stopped playing this game in feburary, disappointed to hear the gameplay loop hasn't changed much. They should put the open world in the back burner and focus making instances like base pso2.
i read a few of the comments on the JP version of the same headline, it proofs that NGS was simply never made for global to begin with. Most players don't seem to complain that much or are rather satisfied with how the current game is
thats cause the all the real players quit. You cant have a game with no progression where the only way to make money is to swipe or duel for 4000 hours
With the character customization being probably the best part of NGS, I don't think the LTQ cosmetic drops are a bad idea. 33:14 you could say the same exact thing about AC gachas, especially the collab ones. You got a limited time to get them and the items you get are chance based. And you even waste money on them. But if they dropped in LTQs, people might actually play the game more.
True i dont even bother logging in for dailies anymore. scratches havent interested me either uqs are boring after how many dark falz uq then they go add everything to ltq etc so the gorge and every other content basically never gets touched 🤦♂️
No story either so i wonder did someone got fired in sega or something is have been super boring elder scrolls online is going to take me back again the is just to boring...sadly
I've been eyeing PSOBB and PSU Clementine lately also TFD. The players are dipping even in JP server, it's depressing... Man, I genuinely want this game to be better but SEGA seems to dgaf anymore and just doing the bare minimum to keep it afloat.
Decided to check this out and saw that they’re bringing in Omega Masquerade from base PSO2 for that 3.5 anniversary in that roadmap. Which is neat..I liked doing those solo fights in base but I can’t expect much else really. Still seems like a downer overall.
True, but I feel like Open World Survival Games will be just like this in 20 years. I can't stand them now and strictly play MMOs, they are the most robust multiplayer experiences still, some of the most robust co-op pve experiences, and have other benefits. Every game you name in here Valheim, V Rising, Palworld, all bought and refunded on steam, so boring, I played Minecraft idgaf how much iteration you give Minecraft I DONT CARE same thing with Hero Shooters I DONT CARE lol
I'm with you, I couldn't care less about Line Strike. Give me more story. give me more to do with my classes. Give us a hint as to where the story is going!
I wish Sega would get bought out by EA so they can get a proper send off that need. Company is run to ground by Sonic games, all the PSO2 scratch money goes to fund Sonic movies and games.
I was an inveterate player of PSO2 classic and today I no longer have the patience to play PSO2 NGS, PSO2 NGS seems much more like a dress-up game than anything else, boring.
Hey. Can you maybe not misrepresent the decline of players on NGS by intentionally and knowingly showing a graph of PEAK player counts instead of average player counts to make it look like a steep drop instead of the gentle decline that it actually is? Thanks. Some of us actually care about the game and want to see it do well, and your toxic slop only serves to drive potential new players away. The reason the player counts are declining, aside from things being moderately slower recently, is because of the extremely hostile and pessimistic community surrounding it. If everyone is chanting "dead game" and "who cares" 24/7, what is someone casually interested in trying the game going to think when they read comments like that? I can guarantee you that there have been several people who have chosen not to try it after all due to the extreme negativity surrounding it, and that's just sad, honestly. I can understand if maybe you're not happy with the rate at which what you deem to be content is released, and I can understand if you're disappointed by this NGS Headline stream, but I can't continue to sit back and tolerate the active sabotage you, other content creators, and the vicious communities you all collectively foster partake in both with blatant misrepresentation of reality in thumbnails like this one, and with your malice. It's not just you pulling stunts like this either. I saw a thumbnail the other day where someone had taken data from right after NGS launched, then hid the dates for the data to make it look like we had recently lost tens of thousands of players. That kind of foul play doesn't help anyone. If you think the player counts dropping is concerning, then stop intentionally contributing to exacerbating the issue. If you don't care about the game or its player counts, then don't consistently post these long videos about it month after month. Go do something else you and I will both enjoy more than you continuing to rag on the game. If you want to admit to yourself that you do care about the game, as your repeated focus on it would suggest, then maybe try to actually foster a healthier community around it instead of just pushing people away. Thanks for reading. Take care.
And the reason why the community is the way it is right now is because of Sega not caring about NGS and investing more money into it. They're one of the largest companies in the world, Sega has the resources to make NGS really good but they just don't care. NGS had a rough launch and we all gave Sega the benefit of the doubt. 3 years later and the only things the over hyped NGS ver.2 really brought are creative spaces, LC exploration, Nameless City, and Line Strike. Don't defend this multi billion dollar company...
You care about the game and want to see it do well? Okay, then get on Sega's case. It's not the players that drive people away, it's Sega. If there wasn't a single negative comment or video made about NGS, it would still have the same player numbers it has now, because quite frankly, it's done nothing to warrant higher numbers.
Sorry to say but antagonizing and confronting a part of the community is infinitely more toxic and damaging than criticizing the game itself. The moment your discourse is about players and not the game, you're basically saying the game is an irrelevant topic and all that matters is what other players are saying about it. If you want the game to be better, stop antagonizing and be genuine about the things you like about it.
@@Bryophyta Critiquing the game is good, but after a certain point, the community needs to be responsible about its own discourse. Not everyone hates NGS, and it becomes increasingly difficult to express positivity when there's a high chance of being dogpiled by contrarians. Nobody wants to get downvoted for simply saying "I enjoy this game", but unfortunately, this is the reality of online game culture.... And again, I want to state that Sega can obviously improve in many aspects. But it helps when the community doesn't eat itself alive.
@@brodiapunchBad actors will always be on either side, but you should always try to engage in a way where the subject is the game itself and why you're satisfied or dissatisfied with it. I've seen this happen regularly in a lot of "ngs positive" circles of the game, where they go around singling out other users as doomposters or a loud minority, disregarding criticism as if it had no merit. If that's not toxic I don't know what it is.
Really funny watching everyone doomposting this game, even though PSO2 does the same thing 10 years ago. Theyre basically continuing how the game operates
People being dissatisfied with the game is never gonna be doomposting. Just deal with it. This playerbase is fractured with a big part of it not liking the direction and pacing of the game, and you'll have to coexist with them whether you like it or not.
We're not doomposting. The problem is when we take long breaks from NGS only to come back and see that the game is still in the same sorry state it was months ago feels really awful.
Anyone that knows the history of PSO2 and NGS should expect a slow content cycle. And, although it may not amount to much, you can still provide feedback to the official discord. Anything beyond that is just venting. And boy, do people like to vent!
It's not hard to get an idea going purely by block population. Ship 2 doesn't get more than 4 to 5 full blocks, which is equivalent to ~1k concurrent players at best. That by itself should tell you enough about our average concurrent player numbers. It doesn't get higher than 4k.
I AM playing other games, but I miss playing NGS only to come back aft6er long period and STILL find nothing fun to do. That is the problem. My characters all feel like estranged family I haven't seen in years.
this game has so much potential, its just sad we are in a loop. so much room for creativity.
LITERALLY, the creative spaces look better than the actual quest arenas.
This is why I started playing Elder Scrolls Online again. Feels like PSO is jus dragging itself along. Feels like SEGA doesn't care anymore.
You’re not wrong. I’m probably one of the oldest and biggest Phantasy Star fans. The way the game is right now I’d rather play First Descendant, and that just breaks my heart.
Well with NGS as it is right now I also have been playing quite a bit of First Descendant. I do plan on making content for that game very soon for those interested 👍
I’m in the same boat. Been into the franchise since PSO on GameCube. Within last two years, I have not seen an update that makes me want to get back into the NGS. Been playing TFD as well as the remake of the retro Castlevania games
Been in the franchise since Phantasy Star 1 on Sega Master system. I'd like to see Sega do another Phantasy Star story game.
@@whitesaint Same
@@CriticasterQ Yes please! ^^
I have no clue what is going on at Sega but what I can say is, is the alarming lack of story content in this game, lack of gameplay, lack of new unique content overall after roughly 4 years is staggering. Base had it's downtimes but not 4 years of it nonstop. Sega needs to put most if not all of their resources into this game otherwise it will fail. They need to stop giving PSO2 the back seat or this will be another IP of theirs that will fall into obscurity.
They try to hide it all with a Nintendo Direct style presentation and marketing collaborations but the evidence is clear that this is nothing more than a form of misdirection and Sega's level of overall focus on PSO2 has been negligent at best.
I am genuinely worried for the future of this game.
I've seen mobile games with more ambition then NGS
I mean that's not fair, Mihoyo games are mobile games and they're better than 99.99% of the entire rest of the global gaming industry.. so yeah.. XD
Man, Genshin has more ambition than NGS. 🤦♂️
Yeaaaah you're out of your mind lol. Genshin is a great gacha game but it doesn't come close to the big dog jrpgs like persona, final fantasy or a number of others I could name. 99%? You're genuinely crazy if you believe that lol. It's better than a lot of other games but there are tons of games better than genshin, at the end of the day it just doesn't have the depth other games can and do have because it's a mobile gacha game. It's definitely a step in the right direction of making those kind of games feel more aligned with actual games that aren't primarily focused on gambling. Lol gachas barely have a proper difficulty curve since you just dump resources to gain levels whenever you want. Never say this blasphemy again@@GarlicAvenger
@@GarlicAvenger hard disagree lol, having a personal opinion is fine, don't say it's 99.99%, there are many greater gachas out there that you don't even know exist hoyofan
@@GarlicAvenger Not saying genshin is bad but saying it's better than 99% of games is a insane take
EX search QOL fix in December is hilarious and embarrassing
Good to know that the game is as stale as ever after 4 years. Freeing up so much storage space never felt so amazing by deleting NGS.
Man.. i really miss base game
Honestly this makes me laugh reminiscing the times when people back then doesnt care about ep6 contents cuz pso2NGS was coming. Boy oh boy luckily i was not in that camp
Tbf expecting something good out of the headline will just lead to disappointment. Even seeing the roadmap up until the end of year lowers my expectations for this game. I'm still sticking around to do dailies and selling stuff for meseta though.
I don't believe theres more than 10 people in the studio , cuz man..
I have to agree with the closing thoughts I find myself not caring for most of the stuff on that roadmap. NGS just isn't fun anymore and I really wish Sega would invest more money into NGS outside of collaborations. All the money NGS makes just goes to whatever Sonic related thing Sega is working on next. Maybe it's time to shut down the EN/Global NGS servers since they lost a ton of players at launch and Sega hasn't done anything to bring back the players that left.
We NEED interactive collab events. LTQs or field events to interact with and unlock cosmetics with it. It'd make the game worth checking out at least just to get some neat cool stuff just by playing the game. WE DONT NEED AN AC SCRATCH FOR EVERYTHING
Its kinda interesting to see that after all this time some content still looks like something created in an ingame level editor by some random player
The contrasting reaction to NGS Headline between Global and Jp is always amusing lol
Sega could of make this game great but they decided not too.
Mmo is dead, because of sega lol
I lived through the dryest years of Warframe and it wasn't even nearly this level of bad. When Warframe in my opinion is overflown with content, NGS just gives you stuff... and takes it away. And I'm not even talking about loot drops.
What a shame It still feels like we're in a loop of 2020 with this game, repeats of "Limited time events" and "seasonals" as well as emotes/costumes for the whales to farm for player engagement. I used to be optimistic for NGS, and I used to love PSO2, playing it while it was still region locked to Japan
I wish I could go back to the base game. Yeah, sure... People can enter the base game at anytime, but what's the point anymore if it's not being updated, and more people stay on New Genesis? Just this week, I decided to revisit NGS to see the Mars update, I was in shock seeing how they've left it untranslated on global release, that showed to me a lack of care and respect for this game. It was a rush-out the door. And I won't accept that from a company like Sega. They're approaching the release of their third Sonic movie, acquired Rovio, own Atlas. and yet they're still treating NGS like an afterthought? If that's the case, I won't waste anymore of my time with New Genesis. I'm glad I've moved onto greener pastures.
Been saying this for awhile.. there just doesn’t seem to be any passion or care for the game at all. The game had a bad launch and we gave them the benefit of the doubt. 2 years later hardly anything had changed minus new regions to keep some people satisfied. NGS 2.0 was like a selling point for them to get people to return, and a bit of people did, just to realize the only notable addition was creative spaces. They promise and never deliver. It’s so backwards to me because I don’t understand how a franchise could have regressed so extremely in quality compared to its previous titles. I check in every once in awhile to see if things change and they never do, so I never have hopes for headlines anymore. Unfortunate. Game has so much potential - I’ve seen indie dev teams make greater strides with massive updates in higher quantity than what sega has pushed out. And Sega has MORE THAN ENOUGH resources to make this game incredible, it’s a multi billion dollar company. There’s nothing to do in NGS. Game is soulless. Just has fashion going for it
Sega already knows the game is a sinking ship, playerbase is going down even more, they investing on collab scratchs to fetch more cash, monetization and new payed features, content feels like they just recoloring things and call it content, i mean i will say people will hv to start looking for another game to go, cause pso2 ngs might not be here for longer then expected, the only way this franchise survives if they already developing pso3.
I must add this, i seen the roadmap, how is that taking so long to develop? cause i can bet a small indie team could produce the entire roadmap in 6 months, that roadmap bring nothing into the game, its just more of the same, where is the NEW CONTENT, they literaly throwing sand at players, this fckers are lazy and should be fired.
What kills the game is the slow release of things. When I started at launch and grinded to get 1st, 2nd, 3rd, all the way to 5th generations equipment... if things got released all at once (like normal), I could've skipped around. Grinded for the better stuff.
Plus it is bam bam range, bam bam melee, bam bam tech... no tact, no enemy talks, nothing but a big game that doesn't respect the time you put in.
Sega only adds things, when they start to see that, they can't hold off any longer, like Aug transfer should of been there ages ago if not at the start of ngs since the Aug transfer was in base game. They are slowing bringing out enemies, areas, costumes and accessories, along with features from base when it should of already of been available at ngs and bring new ideas and things to ngs that people want and not the card game lol. All we getting is mostly a new enemy, weapon and armor to then grind to level up and spend, only for a few months to do it all over again with not much stuff to do with your character at that level anyways, this is insane people need to wake up!
Hate to say it, but NGS is kind of boring right now. This update they showed doesn't feel like something I want to do, only makes me want to stay away from the game. Probably the only thing the game has going for it, is the fashion. Glad The First Descendant came out in time, been having a lot of fun in the game (season 1 is kind of lame atm).
Yeeeeah, while I was writing my notes I was like wow there's hardly any slide content outside of scratches
I think the headline 1 out of 10 I know for a fact jp and others will give sega 6 or more.
I’ve finally started to drop off now. Iog in and get the free scratch. Can’t even be bothered to do daily tasks anymore. I’ve gone back to playing psobb on ephinea.
Come play phantasy star online blue burst on private server Ephinea. 1000 times more enjoyable/rewarding than this monetized garbage.... This is coming from someone who put in 3000 hrs into the game (base and NGS combined).
Havent given Blue Burst a try but I have played the PSU private server. Definitely am willing to give it a shot but just gotta find a good time for it
Blue Burst is great, but it's a hard sell for people that enjoy real action combat. The nostalgia factor is there though.
luckly Ephinea just added Right controller stick for manual camera behabing like PSU or PSO2, so the barrier of entry for that game was lower now if not gone.
had a blast for 2 days with my FOnewearl Gizondeing enemies, its as satisfying as Zondeing on NGS a bit hard to aim despite already activates the right stick but still many times more fun(and we get that Funny looking Newman Costume xD)
I remember old pso2 the Halloween lobby theme xD
and the white day theme was so relaxing doing weekly 5 quests with friends for meseta block 2 was basically the worst block back then lol
it's just a shame that sega keeps making bad choices with the game now
Satoshi Sakai doesn't seem to be at the helm anymore.
Times have changed and they will never go back to how they were...
Already quit last Jan. I get tired of this loop. Doesn't care with players.
Appreciate the video Crit, and glad I can forgo logging in until October maybe even December 2024.
If I got taken out to the same restaurant for every anniversary and all that changed was the tablecloth, I'd go find something else.
I would see that there was very little effort put into what was executed and I am not valued.
Luckily there are other games to play.
I keep thinking that even if this game is released worldwide, it’s still being treated like it’s an exclusively Japan/SE Asia release. I’m not expecting Pokémon, Digimon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, but the major share of these animes NGS is collaborating with, I haven’t seen an episode of and I don’t own a single manga issue.
Only one I watched was Black Lagoon which I think ended on a cliffhanger or was cancelled. I'm not sure what happened, just that the anime ended up stopping randomly and never got another season
56:30 to 56:42 - A coincidental yet perfect summary of what "went wrong" with Line Strike. It's a surprisingly great mode, SUPER fun to play... and then they consciously kept it as far away from the entire rest of the game as they could, which killed many players' interest on the spot because "no rewards".
- The repetitive chores of looking at trees daily and placing 100 build parts every month? Sure, that's "the game". Here's your SG and your GP to spend on Master Fragments, Foundia and Aegis Integra.
- The PSO2 casino sitting around watching roulette play itself? Yeah that's "the game" too, here's your CC to spend on unique enemy triggers and exclusive cosmetics.
- An NGS card game with the actual characters on it, that can be played while queueing? Noooo, that's bad. Can't let anyone even get GP with that!!
Line Strike is basically the first side content in PSO2 history (certainly on the Global side) to never give a single reward outside of itself. In a game where content that "doesn't give enough rewards" dies super fast. This decision was utterly baffling.
Also yeah, I've for a long time wondered if there might be a material cost to evolving Exelio/Ektasis. People have made excuses for them being available for 2+ months before they can be evolved to NOT be worse than Eredim/EineaABS, in particular "to give players a chance to get them", but that won't count for anything if the material needed to evolve them doesn't arrive until the exchange does and they're timegated or rare.
The disrespect of playing As One in the trailer knowing we don't have keys in base game to play armada again...
What has it been like 2 years since we got a new voiced OST? All the maps are bland blue laser tag ahh arenas, or literally a couple of tiles floating in the sky.
The only explanation I can give is they realized NGS was going to flop and bailed out to work on a new project AGES AGO
I think going back in December time to play a bit is the best thing to do. Try play other games, don't have good hopes for Sega fixing this, they just want to milk us and it's becoming more clear as time goes past. So yeah F Sega
Game is just becoming a huge disappointment. The evolving weapons can really only be useful until base stats on new weapons come out and surpass them. Weapon chases are not content, especially when they are largely just stat increases and cosmetic changes, but no actual functional differences to make them interesting. Seems like the moment you need to transfer investments in evolving weapons to a non evolving weapon the whole usefulness of them is gone. They continue to drop more and more cosmetics than anybody has a real need for, yet they can't put out new content even though most of the story stuff is just static characters with text dialogue boxes. The MARS system is a rehash of the Dark Falz transformations in base game, but less compelling and less interesting.
The bosses and level designs in the base game continue to be better than anything we get in NGS still to this day. They are spending a lot of time on additional systems nobody is asking for, I would have sacrificed line strike, creative spaces, AND the MARS system to simply get more real content. There are still more classes and better classes in the base game which I thought after a couple years now we would be FAR more ahead on than we are. At some point, the community needs to step up and say that what they are doing is NOT ENOUGH to run an ongoing game on and if this is the best they can do, they either need to invest much more into content development or rethink their strategy for this entirely. Like why did they give us NGS only to move backwards on all these aspects?
Sega is not showing anyone that they actually care about this game, I would love to know what Sega is doing that they ACTUALLY care about. This game should be SO GOOD.....and it's not, because everything they give us is low effort, and we get these things at an incredibly sluggish pace. time for the content creators to step up and ask for real change for the community because it is clear they are not listening to us, there are mobile games that are treating their players with more respect than this.
There are so many holes in this Base vs NGS comparison. Please tell me how base Techter is a better class than any of the classes in NGS.
@@brodiapunch Just because NGS techter is more advanced, doesn't mean we wouldn't rather have some of the missing classes from base. can't put a whole argument into a microcasm and then argue against that like it encompasses the argument.
@@intalek305 NGS Techter (Wand) isn't more advanced, but rather actually functional. Same goes with Daggers, Wired Lance, Sword, Knuckles, and Talis... These weapons got a much needed rework in NGS and it's exhausting when these facts are overlooked for the sake of "Base was better".
@@brodiapunch Buddy....every single class could be improved and it would not change the overall argument, and there are still classes missing. Even the point on classes you miss, but again, you cannot argue a small part of my argument and dismiss the argument.
@@intalek305 Was your point only related to the amount of classes? If so, base effectively has 4 if you were to look at what people actually use. Scion classes changed the meta forever, and barring a few exceptions, that's what everyone uses.
Guys just play first descendant. It's a better game and with time it will evolve with increase numbers.
Potato PC can't play that game.
Back to playing Monster Hunter I guess.
NGS EoS incoming in 2025, sometime after the DF fight and 100 cap are released. At best, NGS will be kept on permanent life support mode like how the base game is.
Doubt it'd be EoS in 2025. Most likely 2026 or 2027 if SEGA keep being as they are.
Then, it's time to see if there's PSO2 classic Private Server available.
The community has to make a petition to remove this director
Its xover
Oy. When you were going through the slides with the Line Strike additions, how they have ways to improve debuffs and gain bonuses based on elements and such, I started thinking that Line Strike may have more interesting mechanics than NGS...
I wanted to try this game and waited for Blue Protocol too but I guess I'll just keep playing Tower of Fantasy
Imo Game is ending after March of next year. At least it’s current form. Whether it be eos or a full revamp I think something major is going to change with NGS. Odd that the roadmap encompasses 8 months. I think that’s all the content they have planned at least for this iteration
Seeing how little people play and just sit in the lobby, i doubt the game will ever get a realm reborn style reboot, they already lost 99% of the player base weeks after launch and it never recovered
@@sagenebula7120exactly. NGS 2.0 was supposed to be this big revamp and all it entailed was creative spaces.
@@NinTheLost whereas pso1s 2.0 added alot of actual content, i still find it funny when they added creative spaces it was only half of it
The ultimate tragedy is that they put the base game, a SOLID experience, on life support for this
I don't know why everyone thinks the Kaiju No. 8 launcher camo is a minigun.. It's just a large caliber cannon with an obviously rifled huge single barrel... is it the recessed portions on the outside of the barrel tricking everyone?? Because that's done on large calibre barrels for weight reduction and more surface area for for more efficient heat radiation.. an example being the Mark 38 Mod 2 25mm gun the US navy uses. It has similar recessions because they want better barrel cooling as it's an Autocannon.
@@GarlicAvenger First thing most people think of when seeing it for 2 seconds lol, not like I’ve watched the show or looked at the camo thoroughly
I stopped playing this game in feburary, disappointed to hear the gameplay loop hasn't changed much. They should put the open world in the back burner and focus making instances like base pso2.
i read a few of the comments on the JP version of the same headline, it proofs that NGS was simply never made for global to begin with. Most players don't seem to complain that much or are rather satisfied with how the current game is
thats cause the all the real players quit. You cant have a game with no progression where the only way to make money is to swipe or duel for 4000 hours
With the character customization being probably the best part of NGS, I don't think the LTQ cosmetic drops are a bad idea.
33:14 you could say the same exact thing about AC gachas, especially the collab ones. You got a limited time to get them and the items you get are chance based. And you even waste money on them. But if they dropped in LTQs, people might actually play the game more.
True i dont even bother logging in for dailies anymore. scratches havent interested me either uqs are boring after how many dark falz uq then they go add everything to ltq etc so the gorge and every other content basically never gets touched 🤦♂️
NGS Casino when
Open the scratches menu /s
ON GOD
No story either so i wonder did someone got fired in sega or something is have been super boring elder scrolls online is going to take me back again the is just to boring...sadly
I've been eyeing PSOBB and PSU Clementine lately also TFD. The players are dipping even in JP server, it's depressing... Man, I genuinely want this game to be better but SEGA seems to dgaf anymore and just doing the bare minimum to keep it afloat.
Decided to check this out and saw that they’re bringing in Omega Masquerade from base PSO2 for that 3.5 anniversary in that roadmap. Which is neat..I liked doing those solo fights in base but I can’t expect much else really. Still seems like a downer overall.
True, but I feel like Open World Survival Games will be just like this in 20 years. I can't stand them now and strictly play MMOs, they are the most robust multiplayer experiences still, some of the most robust co-op pve experiences, and have other benefits. Every game you name in here Valheim, V Rising, Palworld, all bought and refunded on steam, so boring, I played Minecraft idgaf how much iteration you give Minecraft I DONT CARE same thing with Hero Shooters I DONT CARE lol
Give us the tools to build our own quest in CS SEGA XD, Let us do your work.
Theres a couple talis camos that are books.
Looks like another snoozefest honestly
Yes, I play 77 gigs sized game just for chatting and meeting another players in the lobby 🗿
I'm with you, I couldn't care less about Line Strike. Give me more story. give me more to do with my classes. Give us a hint as to where the story is going!
Hope you all can draw, because i am getting my characters out of there.
man so tired to play this game
they speed run the headline xD
wlmao!
MARS I garbage. Makes everyone pretty much the same
what mats are going to be needed to upgrade the exelio? it would have been nice if they told us and gave us a farm spot for that.
Might be something that doesn't exist until the upgrade option is given with the Stia Update
@@CriticasterQ they would know by now. should have been in the headline. not sure why they think making it a surprise on the day is a fun thing.
@@somfplease there is still another headline before that stuff happens, so could possibly be in that one
@@CriticasterQ ahh ok. thanks. lets hope.
I wish Sega would get bought out by EA so they can get a proper send off that need. Company is run to ground by Sonic games, all the PSO2 scratch money goes to fund Sonic movies and games.
Dang I want that ex MTN.
Bro its Throne and Liberty month no cares about this game anymore. Its had a good run Its been fun but time to move on...
I was an inveterate player of PSO2 classic and today I no longer have the patience to play PSO2 NGS, PSO2 NGS seems much more like a dress-up game than anything else, boring.
Almost 20k hours in jp server on my play records, i used to look forward to login into base pso2. I dont even bother nowadays with ngs
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Hey. Can you maybe not misrepresent the decline of players on NGS by intentionally and knowingly showing a graph of PEAK player counts instead of average player counts to make it look like a steep drop instead of the gentle decline that it actually is? Thanks.
Some of us actually care about the game and want to see it do well, and your toxic slop only serves to drive potential new players away. The reason the player counts are declining, aside from things being moderately slower recently, is because of the extremely hostile and pessimistic community surrounding it. If everyone is chanting "dead game" and "who cares" 24/7, what is someone casually interested in trying the game going to think when they read comments like that? I can guarantee you that there have been several people who have chosen not to try it after all due to the extreme negativity surrounding it, and that's just sad, honestly.
I can understand if maybe you're not happy with the rate at which what you deem to be content is released, and I can understand if you're disappointed by this NGS Headline stream, but I can't continue to sit back and tolerate the active sabotage you, other content creators, and the vicious communities you all collectively foster partake in both with blatant misrepresentation of reality in thumbnails like this one, and with your malice.
It's not just you pulling stunts like this either. I saw a thumbnail the other day where someone had taken data from right after NGS launched, then hid the dates for the data to make it look like we had recently lost tens of thousands of players. That kind of foul play doesn't help anyone. If you think the player counts dropping is concerning, then stop intentionally contributing to exacerbating the issue. If you don't care about the game or its player counts, then don't consistently post these long videos about it month after month. Go do something else you and I will both enjoy more than you continuing to rag on the game. If you want to admit to yourself that you do care about the game, as your repeated focus on it would suggest, then maybe try to actually foster a healthier community around it instead of just pushing people away.
Thanks for reading. Take care.
And the reason why the community is the way it is right now is because of Sega not caring about NGS and investing more money into it. They're one of the largest companies in the world, Sega has the resources to make NGS really good but they just don't care. NGS had a rough launch and we all gave Sega the benefit of the doubt. 3 years later and the only things the over hyped NGS ver.2 really brought are creative spaces, LC exploration, Nameless City, and Line Strike. Don't defend this multi billion dollar company...
You care about the game and want to see it do well? Okay, then get on Sega's case. It's not the players that drive people away, it's Sega. If there wasn't a single negative comment or video made about NGS, it would still have the same player numbers it has now, because quite frankly, it's done nothing to warrant higher numbers.
Sorry to say but antagonizing and confronting a part of the community is infinitely more toxic and damaging than criticizing the game itself.
The moment your discourse is about players and not the game, you're basically saying the game is an irrelevant topic and all that matters is what other players are saying about it.
If you want the game to be better, stop antagonizing and be genuine about the things you like about it.
@@Bryophyta Critiquing the game is good, but after a certain point, the community needs to be responsible about its own discourse. Not everyone hates NGS, and it becomes increasingly difficult to express positivity when there's a high chance of being dogpiled by contrarians. Nobody wants to get downvoted for simply saying "I enjoy this game", but unfortunately, this is the reality of online game culture.... And again, I want to state that Sega can obviously improve in many aspects. But it helps when the community doesn't eat itself alive.
@@brodiapunchBad actors will always be on either side, but you should always try to engage in a way where the subject is the game itself and why you're satisfied or dissatisfied with it. I've seen this happen regularly in a lot of "ngs positive" circles of the game, where they go around singling out other users as doomposters or a loud minority, disregarding criticism as if it had no merit. If that's not toxic I don't know what it is.
Really funny watching everyone doomposting this game, even though PSO2 does the same thing 10 years ago. Theyre basically continuing how the game operates
People being dissatisfied with the game is never gonna be doomposting.
Just deal with it. This playerbase is fractured with a big part of it not liking the direction and pacing of the game, and you'll have to coexist with them whether you like it or not.
We're not doomposting. The problem is when we take long breaks from NGS only to come back and see that the game is still in the same sorry state it was months ago feels really awful.
@@SilentGW6499 Bruh, I started playing PSO2 in 2016, NGS operate exactly like back then
Anyone that knows the history of PSO2 and NGS should expect a slow content cycle. And, although it may not amount to much, you can still provide feedback to the official discord. Anything beyond that is just venting. And boy, do people like to vent!
I'll pass and stay far away from that place. I've heard how toxic the mods are on the NGS discord. You can't criticize NGS there.
platfrom steam 1-2k all ship
epic ??
microsoft ??
maybe 5-9k ppl in global
Don't forget Playstation
It's not hard to get an idea going purely by block population.
Ship 2 doesn't get more than 4 to 5 full blocks, which is equivalent to ~1k concurrent players at best.
That by itself should tell you enough about our average concurrent player numbers. It doesn't get higher than 4k.
You do know there are other GAMES to play. You don't have to make this game your 100%, 12 hour shift game. lol
Yes, but the fact is still true for how it could be much better still.
@@Ashaweshk yup this game is more of a side game now. Tons of better games right now like Wukong.
What makes you think he isn't playing other games?
I AM playing other games, but I miss playing NGS only to come back aft6er long period and STILL find nothing fun to do. That is the problem. My characters all feel like estranged family I haven't seen in years.
@@intalek305i miss playing base, tbh i dont miss quitting ngs at all back in February