IMO, the fact that GMRS and FRS radios can talk to one another is a definite advantage in SHTF scenarios. FRS radios are everywhere. If you can talk to people near you and relay that information to people further away, that greatly enhances your community's comm capability. Of course, it doesn't have to be one or the other. I have a GMRS license, but after observing the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, I'm going to get a HAM license, on the principle that more options are better. GMRS repeaters are sparse in my area, but HAM repeaters are all over the place.
I agree that GMRS is the most useful for most people, everyday. For emergency-minded preppers, all of the above. Have it all plugged in to your unlocked radio capability. FRS/GMRS, MURS, and don't forget Marine, particularly channels 16, 9, 68, 69, 71, 72. This is because these radios are what people tend to have laying around and may pick up in an emergency. On marine, it will probably be on 16. You can take them to 68-72 to carry on the conversation if necessary. Also, some CBs are sold as 10m ham radios and have more power.
I choose and use UHF/VHF to include GMRS also utilize the 10/11 meter bands. I use amplifiers I will use amplification if i feel the needs dictate. For me more " tools" in the toolbox thats all it is.
This ham totally agrees with you. Friends who prep ask me about this alot and I always steer them toward it, esp. since we have some repeaters in the area. I think you couldn't explained the channelization better, telling people just set the radios to the same channel number and they're in business for simplex.
I have a GMRS license and am an Amateur Extra ham operator. For the most part, I agree with you. I personally use two radios: a Quansheng UV-K6 that is unlocked for GMRS (which covers 2 M and 70 CM) and a Xeigu 6100 (which covers my HF needs). With that I use an end-fed wire antenna of the appropriate length, which is easy to make if I am in a pinch. If you get nothing else, get a GMRS radio. You will be able to communicate with people local to you. Also, GMRS operates in the same band as FRS, which are the little handheld radios that you see at Walmart and sporting goods stores. So, there will likely be a lot of people with them. That being said, having a ham license, even a technician license (the entry level license) is going to be important for communication in a lot of natural disaster situations. Many emergency services will be monitoring ham bands, and ham operators practice all the time to help out in emergency situations. Being just outside of Washington DC, we do have a lot of repeaters around. The down side to ham is that there is a test to get your license. The good news is if I can pass it, you can too! I want to have long range communications to check on family in other areas of the country, and possibly get information from outside my immediate area. Another good point with a ham license is that you can modify your radio, so (for example) my UV-K6 can also pick up Air band, marine band and HF, although it can not transmit effectively on them. Whatever you choose, make sure you practice with it. When the SHTF occurs you will act exactly as you have practiced. If you haven't practiced, don't expect much. Rest assured, whatever you choose there will be people like me and others monitoring bands to help out.
I’m licensed for GMRS and ham, I intend to find some CB stuff too. In this day and age, you can find the info to do a lot of this on the cheap. My suggestion is to hop into something and work the kinks out before “it” does hit the fan.
Thanks for the video man! I also love GMRS but mainly because my whole family is licensed under my callsign. In my area (NYC) the VHF repeaters are the most dominant imo surprisingly (range wise). We also had Tropospheric ducting over the summer and had people from Connecticut 100+ miles come down here on simplex. It was pretty cool. 😎
I'm just now getting into GMRS handheld radios, but I do listen to some ham users and some of the local emergency services around me with these radios. The main thing I see with ham radios during a shtf situation is just keeping in the loop with what may be going on in other parts of the country or world if you have connections or people you want to keep in contact with further away.
This was the explainer I needed. Bought 2 unlocked Baofeng AR-5RM radios a week ago and have been trying to figure out what all these frequencies are for. So thank you! Would these radios transmit & recieve better if I connected them to a larger external HAM style antenna? If so, is there something you can recommend? Thanks
As a truck driver that travels your primary area heavily, got any good advice for using gmrs? I just purchased a uv 5r and looking to get my gmrs license
I suggest plugging in all of the frequencies for FRS and gmrs into the first 30 channels, and leave space for another 16 channels above that for duplicate repeaters on the gmrs channels. It becomes primarily a gmrs radio that can also handle the other stuff.
Frankly, I don't understand how someone cannot simply get a tech license and GRMS for emergency preparedness. One thing I've learned from Helene is practice and comfort with radio communications makes it work so much better. Sure, GRMS has the option of repeaters, but the FCC appears to be shutting down the linked ones. People keep forgetting about the digital tools and need for practice ham operations provide. For example, we were sending out supply requests, pictures, and wellness information via digital rf means. This keeps the analog repeaters free for more emergent issues and information distribution. While in the valleys and hollers, GRMS radios provided benefit, it was ham operated repeaters sitting on mountains run by net controllers (who had practiced and knew how to run net control) 120 miles away that did much of the work. Of note, the Mt. Mitchell repeater being used heavily in Helene recovery efforts never went down and only runs at 5w. Location, location, location... GRMS is unlikely to get similar access. To summarize, both have benefits, but if you are solely focusing on GRMS as a survival radio, you will be disappointed.
@@toast803 They also had a net on 40m relaying to Mt. Mitchell also. You are correct in everything you posted. You can lead a horse to water but can’t make them drink. 73’s
@@KO4GAR Yeah, I'm fascinated at how much people will spend on weapon systems and shooting paper/iron targets, not understanding what it's really like to kill someone. BTW, it haunts you even when it occurs in war and self-defense. Also, fascinated at the tactical training and bushcraft training many will do to "hone" skills. They'll do all this with a $20 Baofeng radio with throat mics that cost 2x-4x more than the radio. Yet, they won't train on communications and get quality radios. There are many problems with cheap Chinese radios, especially when using them for digital tools and mechanisms.
If you decide to go take thd ham test, without too much expense and knowing the similarities of 70cm and GMRS, comparatively there are more potential frequencies in 70cm, especially for repeaters. Like installing a repeater for either, there's no special license to own and operate one. Output power and range are the same as is similarities in equipment. The main difference is, taking the test. Sure, you could do without the test and just buy a limited license for a limited service, being either equipment, people or both. 1.25m (220Mhz) depending on your local area, is either widely used, or not. We here on the east coast states enjoy a wide area of coverage of linked repeaters across the region and, also interlinked w/Echolink (kinda like Zello). Just study up on the test. There's no need to go world wide, unless you want to. There's plenty of local traffic on repeaters and on simplex (direct to other radios, no repeaters). Many groups either way. Also, there's plenty of digital comms, much less fm hash noise and other annoyances. Don't take the test, you'll never know what you miss out on. Maybe someone will answer your call for help, if they trust you. Don't take the test, you wont be vetted, either.
I have my GMRS license but really don't know the best radio with the best range we do have repeaters in the area but don't know if I could hit them any suggestions on a good radio,I have been researching them since these hurricanes popped up and I to think my wife and I could use them.
Your going to need tall antenna on both ends. Hand Held units are going to struggle alot I think. I think having an antenna at least 10 - 20 feet above ground height will help alot.
Good point, but I don't GMRS. For licensed free communication UHF I use FRS very low power, for low power VHF MURS, and for HF QRP CBRS on AM/FM/USB/LSB modes. I think GMRS is good with the 50 watts privilege, but you need to have a license. Maybe that's why I don't like it. License Free is for those who love privacy or freedom. Can you send an image over GMRS? MURS stations may be used to transmit data or image, and of course, voice.
Why do GMRS people say "from 462 to 467Mhz"? GMRS is 462 AND 467, but nothing in between. "From" one frequency to another means that it ALSO covers what's in between the two. Now to the point of "I just need local comms". What happens when everything "local" is out and you need to reach out long distance to contact help. Look at the recent destruction in NC. The only reason "local" Radio was useful is because there is a repeater on a very high peak. If that 1 repeater had been taken out they would need hf to contact help outside the destroyed area. Just food for thought.
You need to explore groundwave and NVIS. 160m band is amazing for local comm's. Also a lot of Ham's don't even use vhf/uhf at all. Some strictly use HF. Plus with HF you can pretty much take anything metal and make it an antenna. Also it doesn"t cost 4k to 5k dollars to get into Ham radio. It just takes the willingness to learn. A 20 watt G-90 is 450 dollars. power supply 110 dollars. 50 ah lifpo4 battery for portable operations 105 dollars. 10m-80m antenna 110 dollars. ABR Ind. rg8x coax 75ft 140 dollars. Thats under 1k dollars. You can use a cheap spool of speaker wire and make just about any type of antenna you would like. I made an antenna out of a piece of wood and coat hangers to use the repeater on the ISS. Knowledge is what save's you money. I hope you enjoy your journey into all things radio. 73's
I know about groundwave. The problem with this is no one is going to be running around with a handheld radio during SHTF that is going to be able to TX and RX on 160. making it useless. Also none/ ZERO repeaters in a 100 mile rage of me operate on 160. I cant cover everything in the video but this was kinda said in other ways....
@@citizensurvivalplan Repeaters don't use 160m. Plus when the SHTF you're not going to be running around with a handheld radio. Your going to be sheltered in place listening to comm traffic. You won't be TXing very much. During Helene and after HF and repeaters were used. Both have their place. a TYT 7800 does cross band repeat. 200 dollar radio gives you the ability to set up a repeater for E comm's. uhf/vhf. 160m band was used in world war 2 so i wouldnt say it's useless. I hope you understand there are some people like myself that do portable operations for shits and giggle's. It's called Parks on the Air and Summits on the Air. We are the one's that practice E comm's in portable situations. Also you can have an HF antenna mounted to your vehicle that will operate 10m-40m bands.
@@citizensurvivalplan If you have ever used 160m you would know how well it works for local comm's. You are telling people to use GMRS for local comm's but never say a thing about when repeaters go down. Who is in charge of said local repeater for maintenance. The whole goal is to educate people about radio comm's so they have options. The best comm's you can have is from one antenna to another antenna with no repeater in the middle. If you cant control your operating station and have to rely on somebody else for your radio to work your looking for trouble. Also everyday people can't use 160m's only licensed operators can. In an emergency you can use 160m for sure but then again you need to be educated on how to use said band. If you strictly wanted to stick to GMRS it would be a better solution to cut repeaters out of the equation and use height as might. That means having people use height and yagi type antennas for direct comm's. 2m's will work better but 70cm will work also. Mountain topping i have worked simplex 90 miles away with 70cm at 5 watts. You need to realize the Ham radio community is a wealth of knowledge of so called "Prepping". If you are into Prepping why would you not want to join the biggest prepping community on earth? Ham's are not just great at radio comm's we have other skill's also. 73's
I am a gmrs person and I love my outfit Beck I started out as a CB operator and when you say CBS are worthless and no power come on buddy you need to know something now and that is CB radio is unregulated and you can run as much power as you want as long as your antenna can handle it you're about a quart low when you talk down about CB radio the thing that got me away from CB radio is a.m. I got tired of listening to that constant static where gmrs is quieter I do have a repeater and I'm still thinking about building it up bigger now I want to tell you something else gmrs radio is headed the same way as a CB radio because there is tons of people who come off from FR-S onto gmrs and talk on that thing now when it comes to my repeater I can put tones in there to keep other people out and tell everybody that you're not supposed to use it because it's my repeater well that's wrong because anybody can use it and it's not private the same way with the CB radio it's not private everybody and everybody in the world can hear you if the conditions are right my recommendation is redo this video and quit cutting down a CB radio they are good radios they work really good it's quieter if you go to sideband and it's been deregulated so darn much you can run anything and you can go on any frequency you want in the 10 and 11 M and even the top end of the 12 mm you got a lot of frequencies that you can go and play in
@ 1:16 @ 1:30 WRONG WRONG and WRONG 😂 11M on 4w can do 10-15 miles And a 10M radio can do like 200watts and 40-60mil on a NONE skip day. But what You fail to understand is antenna and counter poise is key, so your lil 50w $400-$500 GMRS is garbage in any mountainous area 😂 or heavy vegetation, unless you use a repeater and you know that's what some will use wich they are NOT public. But if you are a flatlander with "line of sight" you will be fine thats if you are not in a heavy WiFi location either. And HAMs don't point antennas to the sky 😂 they are not satellite dishes. And then you still need a license to operate on GMRS anyhow unless it's a handheld @ 1/4w ch 1-7 If you want real unlimited distance anywhere coms ? Get a satellite radio, but it's not cheap. But I suggest you actually learn what HAMs actually do because you just vomited a bunch wiki info lol
here, here... I keep thinking back to a quote by Fulton Sheen, “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” There's a lot of hate for what people perceive ham radio to be, thus missing the importance of practice and community service the hobby provides. I am amazed at how well net control has been run on the Mt. Michell repeater since Helene tore through WNC. This doesn't come from GRMS/CB cowboys, but seasoned amateurs who know how to work together.
Wanna communucate after the collapse ? Walk out to your fence line and talk with your neighbors , theae radiis suck now and will suck even more when SHTF
Wouldn't it be better to take the time to share information about ham radio, so folks can know more about it? Many hams have a bunch of valuable insights into emergency communications we can share with folks in the prepping community. It seems like we should be doing that instead of making unhelpful comments like yours.
REAL men use GMRS!
Hey! Thanks for stopping by my channel.
IMO, the fact that GMRS and FRS radios can talk to one another is a definite advantage in SHTF scenarios. FRS radios are everywhere. If you can talk to people near you and relay that information to people further away, that greatly enhances your community's comm capability. Of course, it doesn't have to be one or the other. I have a GMRS license, but after observing the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, I'm going to get a HAM license, on the principle that more options are better. GMRS repeaters are sparse in my area, but HAM repeaters are all over the place.
Good presentation, thanks! Your dog, in the background be like, “…heard all of this before, Dad, gonna take a nap…”🤣
lol
I agree that GMRS is the most useful for most people, everyday. For emergency-minded preppers, all of the above. Have it all plugged in to your unlocked radio capability. FRS/GMRS, MURS, and don't forget Marine, particularly channels 16, 9, 68, 69, 71, 72. This is because these radios are what people tend to have laying around and may pick up in an emergency. On marine, it will probably be on 16. You can take them to 68-72 to carry on the conversation if necessary. Also, some CBs are sold as 10m ham radios and have more power.
I choose and use UHF/VHF to include GMRS also utilize the 10/11 meter bands. I use amplifiers I will use amplification if i feel the needs dictate. For me more " tools" in the toolbox thats all it is.
This ham totally agrees with you. Friends who prep ask me about this alot and I always steer them toward it, esp. since we have some repeaters in the area. I think you couldn't explained the channelization better, telling people just set the radios to the same channel number and they're in business for simplex.
I have a GMRS license and am an Amateur Extra ham operator. For the most part, I agree with you. I personally use two radios: a Quansheng UV-K6 that is unlocked for GMRS (which covers 2 M and 70 CM) and a Xeigu 6100 (which covers my HF needs). With that I use an end-fed wire antenna of the appropriate length, which is easy to make if I am in a pinch. If you get nothing else, get a GMRS radio. You will be able to communicate with people local to you. Also, GMRS operates in the same band as FRS, which are the little handheld radios that you see at Walmart and sporting goods stores. So, there will likely be a lot of people with them. That being said, having a ham license, even a technician license (the entry level license) is going to be important for communication in a lot of natural disaster situations. Many emergency services will be monitoring ham bands, and ham operators practice all the time to help out in emergency situations. Being just outside of Washington DC, we do have a lot of repeaters around. The down side to ham is that there is a test to get your license. The good news is if I can pass it, you can too! I want to have long range communications to check on family in other areas of the country, and possibly get information from outside my immediate area. Another good point with a ham license is that you can modify your radio, so (for example) my UV-K6 can also pick up Air band, marine band and HF, although it can not transmit effectively on them. Whatever you choose, make sure you practice with it. When the SHTF occurs you will act exactly as you have practiced. If you haven't practiced, don't expect much. Rest assured, whatever you choose there will be people like me and others monitoring bands to help out.
I’m licensed for GMRS and ham, I intend to find some CB stuff too. In this day and age, you can find the info to do a lot of this on the cheap. My suggestion is to hop into something and work the kinks out before “it” does hit the fan.
Thanks for this video. Very well done, timely, and helpful. I just got my GMRS license for the very reasons you stated.
There are lessons to be learned from Helene and its aftermath. Comms are essential. Thank you for this instruction, very interesting.
During SHTF, you are free to use ...
Yeah..why just choose one when you can use all of them if shtf happen.. just learn to use all of them..
Thanks for the video man! I also love GMRS but mainly because my whole family is licensed under my callsign. In my area (NYC) the VHF repeaters are the most dominant imo surprisingly (range wise). We also had Tropospheric ducting over the summer and had people from Connecticut 100+ miles come down here on simplex. It was pretty cool. 😎
I'm just now getting into GMRS handheld radios, but I do listen to some ham users and some of the local emergency services around me with these radios. The main thing I see with ham radios during a shtf situation is just keeping in the loop with what may be going on in other parts of the country or world if you have connections or people you want to keep in contact with further away.
This was the explainer I needed. Bought 2 unlocked Baofeng AR-5RM radios a week ago and have been trying to figure out what all these frequencies are for. So thank you!
Would these radios transmit & recieve better if I connected them to a larger external HAM style antenna? If so, is there something you can recommend? Thanks
They will. I have the same radios will upgraded antenna and I get good reception.
I strongly suggest you do some research on the subject first before you just go putting up a ham antenna, the wrong antenna can burn up your radio
I have a outdoor antenna I use linked in the video disc.
Good packed info. Thx
Yes, 22 Channels mixed in with FRS. Nice.
What is your recommendation for turn key (easy) gmrs set up
Btech 50 v2 and get a handheld btech v2. I have the links for everything in the disc even down to the wires. Thanks for the comment.
Also try the GM 30 by Radioddity
Great HT
I have reached 15 miles into a repeater with it
Over the counter radios from big box stores can be used to talk to gmrs mobile radios.
You said you cover WV, what state are you local to?
As a truck driver that travels your primary area heavily, got any good advice for using gmrs? I just purchased a uv 5r and looking to get my gmrs license
I suggest plugging in all of the frequencies for FRS and gmrs into the first 30 channels, and leave space for another 16 channels above that for duplicate repeaters on the gmrs channels. It becomes primarily a gmrs radio that can also handle the other stuff.
@bendeleted9155 thank you
your thoughts on the baofeng 21 gmrs radio just got a few days ago , any other radio you think i should get
Seems like a decent little radio. I would always keep a water proof radio like a gmrs v2 linked in the video disc.
Frankly, I don't understand how someone cannot simply get a tech license and GRMS for emergency preparedness. One thing I've learned from Helene is practice and comfort with radio communications makes it work so much better. Sure, GRMS has the option of repeaters, but the FCC appears to be shutting down the linked ones. People keep forgetting about the digital tools and need for practice ham operations provide. For example, we were sending out supply requests, pictures, and wellness information via digital rf means. This keeps the analog repeaters free for more emergent issues and information distribution. While in the valleys and hollers, GRMS radios provided benefit, it was ham operated repeaters sitting on mountains run by net controllers (who had practiced and knew how to run net control) 120 miles away that did much of the work. Of note, the Mt. Mitchell repeater being used heavily in Helene recovery efforts never went down and only runs at 5w. Location, location, location... GRMS is unlikely to get similar access.
To summarize, both have benefits, but if you are solely focusing on GRMS as a survival radio, you will be disappointed.
@@toast803 They also had a net on 40m relaying to Mt. Mitchell also. You are correct in everything you posted. You can lead a horse to water but can’t make them drink. 73’s
@@KO4GAR Yeah, I'm fascinated at how much people will spend on weapon systems and shooting paper/iron targets, not understanding what it's really like to kill someone. BTW, it haunts you even when it occurs in war and self-defense.
Also, fascinated at the tactical training and bushcraft training many will do to "hone" skills. They'll do all this with a $20 Baofeng radio with throat mics that cost 2x-4x more than the radio.
Yet, they won't train on communications and get quality radios. There are many problems with cheap Chinese radios, especially when using them for digital tools and mechanisms.
477 mhz in Australia can go a lot of distance with 5 wats in the right area with hight and cooler conditions
If you decide to go take thd ham test, without too much expense and knowing the similarities of 70cm and GMRS, comparatively there are more potential frequencies in 70cm, especially for repeaters. Like installing a repeater for either, there's no special license to own and operate one. Output power and range are the same as is similarities in equipment. The main difference is, taking the test. Sure, you could do without the test and just buy a limited license for a limited service, being either equipment, people or both.
1.25m (220Mhz) depending on your local area, is either widely used, or not. We here on the east coast states enjoy a wide area of coverage of linked repeaters across the region and, also interlinked w/Echolink (kinda like Zello).
Just study up on the test. There's no need to go world wide, unless you want to. There's plenty of local traffic on repeaters and on simplex (direct to other radios, no repeaters). Many groups either way. Also, there's plenty of digital comms, much less fm hash noise and other annoyances.
Don't take the test, you'll never know what you miss out on. Maybe someone will answer your call for help, if they trust you. Don't take the test, you wont be vetted, either.
I have my GMRS license but really don't know the best radio with the best range we do have repeaters in the area but don't know if I could hit them any suggestions on a good radio,I have been researching them since these hurricanes popped up and I to think my wife and I could use them.
Todradio h3 with a Nagoya na-771g 15 inch hits the same repeaters that my more expensive radios do.just isn’t waterproof
With GRMS can I still communicate with family if there are hills in-between and therefore no line of sight? Distances of 5 miles, and also 15 miles?
Your going to need tall antenna on both ends. Hand Held units are going to struggle alot I think. I think having an antenna at least 10 - 20 feet above ground height will help alot.
Good point, but I don't GMRS. For licensed free communication UHF I use FRS very low power, for low power VHF MURS, and for HF QRP CBRS on AM/FM/USB/LSB modes. I think GMRS is good with the 50 watts privilege, but you need to have a license. Maybe that's why I don't like it. License Free is for those who love privacy or freedom. Can you send an image over GMRS? MURS stations may be used to transmit data or image, and of course, voice.
Great video. I hope the f c c allows linking on GMRS.
Why do GMRS people say "from 462 to 467Mhz"? GMRS is 462 AND 467, but nothing in between. "From" one frequency to another means that it ALSO covers what's in between the two.
Now to the point of "I just need local comms". What happens when everything "local" is out and you need to reach out long distance to contact help. Look at the recent destruction in NC. The only reason "local" Radio was useful is because there is a repeater on a very high peak. If that 1 repeater had been taken out they would need hf to contact help outside the destroyed area. Just food for thought.
But i programed my Ham with CHIRP which has GMRS etc
You need to explore groundwave and NVIS. 160m band is amazing for local comm's. Also a lot of Ham's don't even use vhf/uhf at all. Some strictly use HF. Plus with HF you can pretty much take anything metal and make it an antenna. Also it doesn"t cost 4k to 5k dollars to get into Ham radio. It just takes the willingness to learn. A 20 watt G-90 is 450 dollars. power supply 110 dollars. 50 ah lifpo4 battery for portable operations 105 dollars. 10m-80m antenna 110 dollars. ABR Ind. rg8x coax 75ft 140 dollars. Thats under 1k dollars. You can use a cheap spool of speaker wire and make just about any type of antenna you would like. I made an antenna out of a piece of wood and coat hangers to use the repeater on the ISS. Knowledge is what save's you money. I hope you enjoy your journey into all things radio. 73's
I know about groundwave. The problem with this is no one is going to be running around with a handheld radio during SHTF that is going to be able to TX and RX on 160. making it useless. Also none/ ZERO repeaters in a 100 mile rage of me operate on 160. I cant cover everything in the video but this was kinda said in other ways....
@@citizensurvivalplan Repeaters don't use 160m. Plus when the SHTF you're not going to be running around with a handheld radio. Your going to be sheltered in place listening to comm traffic. You won't be TXing very much. During Helene and after HF and repeaters were used. Both have their place. a TYT 7800 does cross band repeat. 200 dollar radio gives you the ability to set up a repeater for E comm's. uhf/vhf. 160m band was used in world war 2 so i wouldnt say it's useless. I hope you understand there are some people like myself that do portable operations for shits and giggle's. It's called Parks on the Air and Summits on the Air. We are the one's that practice E comm's in portable situations. Also you can have an HF antenna mounted to your vehicle that will operate 10m-40m bands.
@@KO4GAR its a weird argument to make to tell everyday people to use 160 meter for local comms even for a ham operator.....
@@citizensurvivalplan If you have ever used 160m you would know how well it works for local comm's. You are telling people to use GMRS for local comm's but never say a thing about when repeaters go down. Who is in charge of said local repeater for maintenance. The whole goal is to educate people about radio comm's so they have options. The best comm's you can have is from one antenna to another antenna with no repeater in the middle. If you cant control your operating station and have to rely on somebody else for your radio to work your looking for trouble. Also everyday people can't use 160m's only licensed operators can. In an emergency you can use 160m for sure but then again you need to be educated on how to use said band. If you strictly wanted to stick to GMRS it would be a better solution to cut repeaters out of the equation and use height as might. That means having people use height and yagi type antennas for direct comm's. 2m's will work better but 70cm will work also. Mountain topping i have worked simplex 90 miles away with 70cm at 5 watts. You need to realize the Ham radio community is a wealth of knowledge of so called "Prepping". If you are into Prepping why would you not want to join the biggest prepping community on earth? Ham's are not just great at radio comm's we have other skill's also. 73's
@3:42 or you could push 10,000 watts its CB no one cares.
Maybe so..... and that sure would make it a pretty capable radio.
I am a gmrs person and I love my outfit Beck I started out as a CB operator and when you say CBS are worthless and no power come on buddy you need to know something now and that is CB radio is unregulated and you can run as much power as you want as long as your antenna can handle it you're about a quart low when you talk down about CB radio the thing that got me away from CB radio is a.m. I got tired of listening to that constant static where gmrs is quieter I do have a repeater and I'm still thinking about building it up bigger now I want to tell you something else gmrs radio is headed the same way as a CB radio because there is tons of people who come off from FR-S onto gmrs and talk on that thing now when it comes to my repeater I can put tones in there to keep other people out and tell everybody that you're not supposed to use it because it's my repeater well that's wrong because anybody can use it and it's not private the same way with the CB radio it's not private everybody and everybody in the world can hear you if the conditions are right my recommendation is redo this video and quit cutting down a CB radio they are good radios they work really good it's quieter if you go to sideband and it's been deregulated so darn much you can run anything and you can go on any frequency you want in the 10 and 11 M and even the top end of the 12 mm you got a lot of frequencies that you can go and play in
@ 1:16
@ 1:30
WRONG
WRONG and WRONG 😂
11M on 4w can do 10-15 miles
And a 10M radio can do like 200watts and 40-60mil on a NONE skip day.
But what You fail to understand is antenna and counter poise is key, so your lil 50w $400-$500 GMRS is garbage in any mountainous area 😂 or heavy vegetation, unless you use a repeater and you know that's what some will use wich they are NOT public.
But if you are a flatlander with "line of sight" you will be fine thats if you are not in a heavy WiFi location either.
And HAMs don't point antennas to the sky 😂 they are not satellite dishes.
And then you still need a license to operate on GMRS anyhow unless it's a handheld @ 1/4w ch 1-7
If you want real unlimited distance anywhere coms ?
Get a satellite radio, but it's not cheap.
But I suggest you actually learn what HAMs actually do because you just vomited a bunch wiki info lol
here, here... I keep thinking back to a quote by Fulton Sheen, “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” There's a lot of hate for what people perceive ham radio to be, thus missing the importance of practice and community service the hobby provides. I am amazed at how well net control has been run on the Mt. Michell repeater since Helene tore through WNC. This doesn't come from GRMS/CB cowboys, but seasoned amateurs who know how to work together.
Just some life advise from me to you. Calm down. I wanna make sure you make it so you can comment on the rest of my videos.
Wanna communucate after the collapse ? Walk out to your fence line and talk with your neighbors , theae radiis suck now and will suck even more when SHTF
You know nothing about ham radio, stick to something you think you might know
You seem like you have a lot of helpful information to offer thanks for the comment.
Wouldn't it be better to take the time to share information about ham radio, so folks can know more about it? Many hams have a bunch of valuable insights into emergency communications we can share with folks in the prepping community. It seems like we should be doing that instead of making unhelpful comments like yours.