I AM SHOCKED BY FACTOR BIKES!! (FACTOR OSTRO VAM)
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was very surprised with the out of the weight box for this bike and also the price of this bike for everything you get... very competitive
3:12 "the cables are ran" --RUN, not ran
3:38 "more narrower" --'narrower' or 'more narrow,' pick one
@@rosshole It's OK. This is South Florida vernacular.
Hmm from the last contact i have with them they reply an offer on Ostro Vam with SRAM Force AXS at 7989$. You think that is good price?
@@rosshole don't think anyone's that bothered
@@rosshole I guess the most of us are not here to learn Queen's English.
Bro, for 10.5 k I want my bike to talk to me like Kit from Nightrider.
I can make that happen, step into my office lol...... ill just throw a walkie talking in the carbhon frame
@@GCPerformance18 I hear a screaming sound coming from my bb area...🤣
Glad to see some love for the Factor Ostro. It is definitely the best bike that I have ever own (Bianchi, Cervelo, and Specialized). Stiff yet comfortable.
meglio della Tarmac SL7? 🤥
I've always liked the look of the main logo as well as the holo-mirror graphics but all the secondary logos are kind of distracting but that's a criticism I have for S-Works SL7s too. They could remove 50% of the secondary logos and you'd still know it was a Factor and it would look super clean. Matching glossy wheels and bars would have made this bike look insane.
I think it is a really sharp looking bike one of the best looking logos out there, I dont know why but it jsut looks fast and high end, very modern
Another great review, these bikes do not get the attention they deserve. I bought mine in December to replace my Sworks Tarmac. Absolutely no regrets, this bike is AMAZING!! Stiff, compliant and fast. Also, It's available with a zero setback seatpost.
yea I didnt realize that u can choose the setback you want when purchasing the bike, that is a nice feature as well with this bike
I built one for a friend, I really liked how they have done away with the expansion bung in the steerer tube and have a female thread bonded all the way down the steerer so you just cut the steerer to length and tighten down the top cap without messing around with expansion bungs, as you noted the frame comes with Ceramicspeed bb, and bushings fir Shimano or Sram, and Ceramicspeed headset, the frame kit is really comprehensive, it’s a nice finish too 👍
They have since redesigned the steerer and are back to an expander plug, albeit different than the prior verison, but no insert in the cable groove.
Just got my Ostro TDF edition 2 weeks ago. 16.02lbs with pedals and cages. Sram Red. You can get the bike with a 0 offset seat post. You missed the aero channel that is built into the bottom of the downtube up by the forks. The handlebars are so sweet aesthetically and functionally. Factor make superb bikes and as you pointed out, build their own frames/components.
that tdf edition is so nice!!! I want to see one of those in person, they have some of the nicest colors out for sure and also there logo on the bike looks very nice
Yeh Weight .. just loose the the Dura Ace Crankset & drop in a Rotor ALDHU Carbon Crankset. Lighter than the Dura Ace and u won't be breaking crank arms .
I have an ostro! Originally spec’d with the 25mm setback post which, apart from being too much (there should be a 15mm option), I felt like the curved Seatpost didn’t match the angular frame. I swapped for a 0-setback post and pushed my saddle all the way back, for aesthetics :)
I have Factor Ostro VAM size 52; Dura Ace 12 speed groupset; wheelset Bontrager Aeolus RSL 51; 2 sworks carbon bottle cage, ultegra paddle, saddle Fizik Argo Vento R1 carbon rail & ride now ultra light TPU tube 2.9g. Total weight 6.99kg.
Spot on mate … I do ride one. Great review and show case of the bike. For what it’s worth, my 54 frame with very similar spec to what you have show there, is around 7.25kg.
!! was a nice bike for everythign it came with and i like how they allow you to customize everything as well, is yours 7.25kg with pedals and cages and all?
My Ostro Gravel size 56 is 7,3kg in road setup with Black Inc Sixty wheels, DA pedals, gps mount, titan cages (29g each) and 28mm tyres
how tall are you mate? I’m in between a size 52 and a 54..
Trek $14,000. Specialized $15,000. Cannondale $15,000. Pinnarello $15,000. Colnago $15,000. Cervelo $15,000. Etc... I paid $10,100 total. Tax, shipping, everything. Ostro VAM 12 speed Dura Ace with OSPW's and 60mm wheels which are actually 56's. 16lbs 2oz for a 54cm out of the box. It is still a crap ton of money, but compared to most of the others, a good deal. The Ostro Gravel with the new SRAM force will be here in a couple weeks. I couldn't resist having a matching set.
yea I mena compared to the big companies the price is for sure a bargain, but if you have the 10k you most likly have the 14k for the bike and plus with these other companies you get shop support and also a longer warranty and backing from a company that has been around longer
Way too cheap, these bikes. They should claim at least 20k. Anything less cannot be a good bike!
If price isnt a .....factor
🥁 🥁 💥
Due to uci and international cycling team use them that's why the price go up.
damn this man with the puns....... i never thought this bike would be such a Xfactor of a weapon.... that was horrible
😂
super light ? the bianchi xr4 (2018yr) i have is 6.9kg, ultegraR8000-based (wo pedals).
Great video but need to make one correction. The “super tuck” position was not banned due to the top tube construction. It was banned due to a potential safety concern based on the riders position.
yea for saftey because it could crack the top tube and cause for a bike fall or crash, because of impact on the top tube
yep yep now this is a light aero bike (Andre Greipel Limited Edition 2022😍)
ive seen their frameset being 800g in size 52cm
some people have built them up to light 6kg side😱 (cyclespeed's custom built)
their old price was very competitive considering they give u ceramicspeed for BB and never server headset (SLT) and wheel bearing
that offset seatpost is too aggressive nothing a little darimo (15mm offset) wont solve
My local bike shop here in Calgary sells Factor. The cool thing is that you can actually customize your build.
I heard this, I need to try and get into contact with them they would be a strong brand to carry
Great bike. Got mine end of 2022 and roses like a dream.
Yes yes yes. I’m so happy to see you review this amazing machine. I have one in a 54 and this machine is very fast and very comfortable. It truly is an amazing ride. Great review. Keep ‘em’ coming. 👍🏻🇨🇦
it seems really nice bike for the money, they hit the nail on the head with the branding and the look of the bike very modern and also the price makes it much more appealing for what you get for your money compared to the other guys
Such a beautiful looking bike! I was nearly about to pull the trigger on one, then a good deal on a 2022 Giant propel came along for half the price with Sram Red/Cadex. So it was hard to justify the difference for something that's 90% of the bike and still more than I ever need.
Reducing the weight of a top equipped bike from 7.1 to 6.0kg with Dura Ace 9200 is neither easy nor cheap. With lighter wheels and tires, you can gain 300-400g, but the cost is about 3,000 USD. Where are the other 600-700g?? And at what cost?
I think he said or meant 6.8 kilos, he just said it fast and without enunciating.
I meant 6.8
like always but i appreciate you for underrstanding me
Damn, that is light! Swap out the wheels with a 35mm profile climbing wheel set with a DT Swiss 180 hub & lighter weight tires and go tubeless then add on the pedals it would still be light af!
Or just go with rim brakes :)
@@mk-yg7op living in Belgium, rim brakes would be quite expensive this time of year.. or you'd have to go for ones with metal breaking surfaces, which you can barerly buy new
Nah, keep it aero
agreed, I think go tpu tubes
Factor should include a Hirobel frame clamp...
Here, in Singapore, I think you can only buy this through retailers.
would you pay a little more for that to be included">?
@@GCPerformance18 I already have the Hirobel but, if I was aware that Ostro owners were busting their frames, I would certainly get one if I was buying an Ostro. It's cheap insurance. Haha
GC Performance You should see my Ostro Gravel with SRAM Red 1x. It’s almost the same frame but with clearance for 45mm tyres. Same light frame and aero performance 👌
I absolute love the look and the aggresive nature of there gravel bike I think it is one of the best looking gravel bikes out there
selling my tcr and propel for this. I managed to get a pretty sick deal $9000 for an ostro with sram force.Upgraded tires and pedals was like an extra $500
Seka Exceed RDC should follow this review. Great review mate, as always 😊
I want to get a seka on the channel but no one will work with me
10500 USD with all these? It's a bargain!
He's shilling like a charlatan.
...... y am I shilling i Have no affiliation with the store I do not sell factor and they did not send this too me, this is my expereicne in the industyr against other big brand names.....
wow sarcasm
@@GCPerformance18 I do think it's a real bargain for 10500 (relatively), although still a big price to pay for a bike. But for a brand like Factor and all these high tier components you are getting, it's really hard to find something that can compete with this.
Are you going to do the gravel version? 🙏
I want to do the new one but I need to get back down there
Swapped my Ostro's seatpost for a 0 setback darimo one, looks insane! and its 6.8kg with deep wheels (not black inc)
About time! Sweet machine. Heard you missed out on a Factor One review awhile back.Shame.
hahahah, yea I know I didnt have the time, it was a pretty red one, those bikes are super ncie
That is just absolutely crazy to me I took a step back into 2020 this year purchased a KHS flite Team edition bike full monocoque high-modulus frame Dura-Ace all the way around and vision metron 55 with a FSA full carbon finishing kit for $5000 size 57 coming in at 7.2 kg . Makes it hard to justify purchasing any of these bikes
alot of things before 2020 are crazy to think what we purchased them for, everything in my house now is so expensivve i would have never bought it before fo rthese prices now we are all forced too becuase this is it
@@GCPerformance18 yes definitely but what I'm saying is I bought a 2020 bike this year just about a month ago top-end found nestled in a small bike shop in Indiana. What is steal like I said full Montague high-modulus Carbon frame, Dura-Ace all the way around FSA sl-k carbon cockpit and vision metron 55 all for $5,000 purchased February 2023 what a value and great story behind the KHS line of bikes including in-house manufacturing in Taiwan
I have an ostro gravel and I drool over the road version.
the gravel looks so nice too, they have one of the cleanest graqvel bikes
We have seen Chris complain a lot about these disc brakes though 😉 That aside price is in the rarefied insane air territory. I think these companies are in for a big shock in 2023. Thanks for the video!
I mean but that disc brake performance is on any bike, it is the component and not the bike, but I feel like a man who dominated the field with rim brakes will always complain about osmething new when he is losing, that is just my take on it
@@GCPerformance18 True but the noise & scrapping is on videos for all to hear. Take into account these are pro riders with very adept mechanics servicing bikes daily. So I think his disc complaints are valid...but yes true of any disc bike. But what I said about price stands. I think all these over priced guys will have to reevaluate this year ...not to mention many China brands coming of age & lining up to eat their lunches ;)
Chris Froome complains about disc brakes but I doubt there is any excuse of discs holding him back when you can get the Ostro VAM to the UCI limit and he's also getting dropped uphill for the most part, where braking feel isn't so much of importance. 😉
@@DoNuT_1985 Yes he has never said it was a performance cutting problem. Just that the noise & scrapping is F!#@$ing annoying ;)
@@DoNuT_1985 Froome never said it materially impacted performance. His biggest issue with them is they need to constantly be micro adjusted to perform and he literally has top world level mechanics working on his bike every single day. Discs on a road bike is just another scam to justify increased prices, cost, complexity and generate additional service fees for local bike shops for most riders. 🙂
Love ❤️ FACTOR BIKES & Chris" Froomie" is an Absolute Gem 💎. The Pro Peloton is all the Better 4 having him claw is way back . On this Bike what is the bit poking out from the steering tube ? A fork tube not cut ?
For 10k it should be light it should have good parts on it and let’s be honest Black Inc is there own brand so in theory should make it cheaper and on top of that there’s no middle man with Factor as they own there own factory so why isn’t that cost passed on?
You could build a Time Alp D’huez with Durace, ffwd wheels (dtswiss 240 hubs) Vittoria corsa tyres, zipp carbon bars & stem, Fizik 3d saddle for less and the bar, stem and seatpost are t proprietary meaning loads of aftermarket options.
Owner of Ostro Vam 54 in racing green with DA9200 0 offset and Princeton peak 4550. Super fast bike, light but it feels a little sluggy for me. Maybe it doesn't have the punch I am used to from my older bikes. I just order S-works 54 frameset in Satin red onyx color way and waiting for it. Do you think that i will compromise anything from speed to comfort with that move? Thanks in advance
no not at all the sworks sl7 is a very complainant bike while maintain that punch you are looking for, they did a great job making that bike
@@GCPerformance18 thanks for your reply!
Can You write comparison Factor vs SL7?
It has a T47 Asymmetric BB. Slightly different than a T47
yea I noticed that while filnmign the drive side crank, is that like similar to cervelos?
There is a colour which is called Soho Mix! Absolutely insane!
yea the gloss carbon frame and the metalic logo looks so nice, it is classy from far but very loud from up close
I just don't get that setback seatpost on such a small frame.
so I guess you can choose this when buying one from the website, because this is a stock bike at a store they might have just put this on there by accident, idk I would never but they only options are either 0 or 25mm setback, which is pretty drastic
Collareta cycling out in plantation fl is a authorized dealer of factor bikes those are the only bikes they carry in store beautiful bikes
yea I notice more and more dealers popping up maybe thge direct to consumer thing was failing for them
Awesome ride but that "uncircumcised" steer tube looks so weird! I heard the recent Dura-Ace crank arm power meters had issues with crazy swings in accuracy, no?
yea i have heard this too, I think its a plus that these ocmpanies dont include there own power meter, I think it should be something preference for consumers to run, they have that type of money they can choose what they want
How would this compare with the Scott Addict RC pro? Which would you prefer and why?
Great video!
very similar, but this bike has lighter wheels and also this frame is there nicest carbon where the addict pro does not come with there top tier carbon which is not
The Factor is I am Shocked you said SHOIKED!
hahahah
Let's Factor the Price Equation!
so many punss lol
Cannondale's top of the line bikes waa called Black Inc. Do you know if Factor has something to do with Cannondale not offering that series anymore? Btw, that Factor looks sick! I'd take that over a Canyon.
I dont know anymore but I do not think they have the black inc bike anymore by cannondale, they do not sell that bike and i do not think they have any kind of affiliation with the companies
very nice bike! thank you! geometry is kinda different we are very used to specialized tarmac
That's true!
My buddy just sold his ostro for the new madone lol says it’s faster and better handling
really??? I know for florida, the madone would be faster and more sturdy handling for higher end speeds becauise we are going strait, but yea, I hear that story all day with the industry I work in...... eveyrone buys a new bike anmd they love it way more then there old bike
Your Rolex Submariner 126610LN date! On your left wrist, is 100 times better and more beautiful than the Chinese factor!
hahahha why thank you my friend!!! and very nice detail to the watch!!! you are a master to the craft!!
Handle bar 38mm or 40mm??
this handlebar is 40mm
No mistakes? How come that this light frame -based bike is 7.1kg without pedals and cages?! My old xr4 (2018) with pedals, cages and gps+light holders is 7.1kg, ULTEGRA-based!
How tall are you? - Just curious about framesize (52) vs. rider hight.
That's a very cool bike...
Always wondering if you can actually sit on your top tube now with all these light weight carbon bikes….
Apparently you’re not supposed to on this bike while riding (ie no super tuck), due to potential risk if you hit a bump at speed since it’s quite thin there. Sitting at a street light is apparently fine though.
I have the tarmac sl7 (non-sworks) and Im considering getting this bike, good or bad idea?.
the sl7 non sworks is still such an amazing bike I do not think you wil notci any different, for th eprice unless u guy sell and make an even trade this will be a pretty even swap
I think the bike would look better if it had the logo in an outline style.
I don't like black frames at all.. bright colors and outline logo would be nice looking
This or the Canyon Aeroad?
that is a really hard one, but the factor have this premium look to them, they look like a german racecar or something, idk I like it
I like factor. The mtb's also
not to familiar with factor mtbs, but they look nice dont know about how they perform
Dude you make me spend too much money lol my wife’s gang kill me. I just ordered the new version.
4 week wait is Hana kill me!!!!
hahahah that is awesome I have the new version video just did recently
@@GCPerformance18 I’ll check it out tonight!
Proud owner of this Bike. I have the limited edition Singapore version!
what is that color I have not seen it
Are those Stock wheels?
yes they are they come with the build, black inc is there sister brand for compoinents they are made by factor
nice and steady bro... working out?
hahahha nope, not anymroe
That is a seriously HOT bike. I want to ride that thing pretty badly.
I would love to try one out one day
typo in title!!!
hahahhah I have to fix it
Erm…my friend got his to 6.8 kg, with 50mm deep wheels as well.
So, yea, this is pretty heavy too.
yea I think this is an easy fixc to get ti to 6.8 kg
Anybody else know this as Phil Gaimon's bike?
Definitely a company that does not market as much as the heavy hitters.
I mean you can say they do not market, but they have phil on one, whos a big influencer, you have chris froome on it for team Israel, who is on UA-cam as well, and does videos about them, rony kuba another youtuber, then they do a lot o advertising for sales, not to mention there pro teams, they are a big company with a strong reputation
EVERYONE SAYS THE TARMAC SL7 IS THE BEST EVER. I'm torn between a Specialized or this OSTRO. THE oSTRO WEIGHTS MUCH MORE, THE sl7 IS MUCH STIFFER
How light will the O2 then be😂?
is there a differece? I honestly do not know?
Nice watch man! 😁
Thanks! 😁
And the wheels is 1500 grams. So a lot to save on lighter wheels 😅
yea this is true but also those wheels for that depth si not that bad
Compared to hypers, drive40 and the upcoming mega? Yes they are 😅
7kg but size XXSmall 😅
I think its a small
Black beauty!
not biased at all.
Lmao I don’t sell factor this isn’t even my bike shop, I have no affiliation with the brand or bike store I am at. Just speaking freely with my experience in terms of price of a bike for that tier of components
love my factor!
Aero looking
fast loking
very nice bike
Size: kids size!!
lol That chimney has gotta go. Cool bike, Great review
hahahah it will once there is a buyer, you think the rider wants to keep it like this lol
@@GCPerformance18 You're right of course:)
I have this bike
very nice
Phil Gaimon is sponsored by Factor.
yea I have seen that, they do a good job sponsering nice influencers and also strong riders
Only 10$k 😂😂😂😂😂
10500 you on drugs bro? Ridiculous
yes i am
@@GCPerformance18 what u take? Can i have some?
it might look the same but in reality, they are totally different with the type of material used to build one. Mass produced bikes are not the same as factory ones made for racing.
yes so we have heard, I would love if someone can just risk it or come out and just confirm it 100 percent just too shut this whole argument up
Love it
I am Shoicked too.
same here, my =dick shrunk and then grew in the 10 min during the video.... totlayy shocked
Sweet
Terrible value for money. No power meter, heavy wheels, cockpit etc. If money isn't an issue, then yeah it looks good.
wheels and cockpit are one of the llightest out there in terms of companies sister manufactorers black inc is very well up there, the power meter for those cranks as well are kind of shite
2023: Black Inc
2024: Written Off
they are changing therre name?
too heavy for the price
that is a not a bad bike for the price
Did you Just call chris froome a "youtuber"???😅😅😅
hahaha no chris miller
What a joke, without pedals without bottles without head unit.
My bike is lighter with all those added.
I am sure it is an old bike rim brake that has no aero properties and horrible braking power
My Rinschlta weight 7,39 with pedals and aloy wheels so what the deal, its still the "fat" biker who make it go fast or slow
Why in the world would anyone want ceramic bearings in the headset?
it is meant to be so high quality thast there is no need to service it, thats the beenfit of the slt
Sure to be a noodle to ride.
hahah thats what IU wonder for my weight it looks very thin
Expensive overrated bike manufacturer
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Seatstays look like burnt spaghetti! Not looking safe!
hahah I mena they are riding them in the tour
Another Chinese bike.....meh
mahhhhh
Ive only been shoicked once in my life
hahah mother fucker!!!!! dont u dare correct my typos lmao
I'm shocked anyone would pay that much for a mainland China sweatshop made and cheaply fabricated cookie cutter bike. Fools abound! 🙂
Its not a bike if it got no pedals on it..
it is a stock binke I am showcasing