The Best Rock & Gem Show in Portland! // Mt. Hood Rock Club 2023 Annual Show
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2023
- The Mt. Hood Rock Club annual show this year was superb, with some excellent deals.
Enjoy the show!
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The vendors mentioned at the end of this video who were selling material from Saddle Mt. and Hampton Butte reached out to me and stated that it was actually from private property that is adjacent to the public land dig sites and not the public dig sites themselves. When asked to provide evidence to back up the statement that it came from private land they refused to offer any information to confirm their previous statements.
I have some material I’ve gotten verbal permission from a placer gold miner to collect in his claim (not gold of course lol) but I also want to go on field trips to club owned claims in my area. If I want to make cabs or sell the rough or slabs, what kind of evidence would you recommend I hold onto? Would you recommend maybe having the mine claim owner email me with expressed permission or is something basic like saving screenshots of the Facebook post on the club page enough? Should I hold onto all of the stuff I already have but don’t have “evidence” isn’t from public land or even a claim jump? Thanks
@@FredLynch-tv9wb You bring up a very good point here which isn't something I have really thought about.
I wouldn't hurt to hold on to as much as you can as far as proof goes but really the issue is big time dealers.
I think considering they’re getting away with straight up illegal stuff and admitting to it, if I do the bare minimum I’ll be okay lol Like screenshooting Facebook posts and maybe getting emails and stuff. Not to blow smoke but thank you for your channel and all of the hard work you do into researching this stuff for us newbies! My dad has been watching you since the first Saturday Night Special and we both love your channel. Thanks for responding!
I agree. Rules are set for a reason. They know they are selling illegally and those who purchase from them and don’t know the rules are now guilty. Bad business. Thanks Jared for your honest opinion.
It's an issue for sure but not normally so blatantly in the open.
Hey, thanks for the shout out about my cases. Both of them were all Brazilian Agates. I noticed one of my cabs had fallen over from the heat as it was being held up by hot glue, so it must have gotten a little too much sun. If I had known you guys were coming, I would have made an extra trip to meet up with you. FYI the small slab at 29:39 was Llanite from Llano Texas. For 50 cents, you should have bought it. Oh, and I agree with your comments at the end about digging and selling material. It's is against the law and I will mention it to the club board at a future meeting.
It was a little bit of a last second decision if we were going to show up or not but I'm sure our paths will cross at some point.
Thank you for mentioning it to the board.
Hello Ms. Sarah happy to see you both …thanks for the share…😊
Addressing Ethical issues ………stay ethical ❤
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Love going to rock shows. So, when you go it's like a personal tour. Thanks Jared and Sara!
I'm glad you liked it.
Nice rock show, always fun to see that many thundereggs. I agree with your peeve and that sort of behavior is going to ruin it for us all if they decide to close places because of that. Thanks for taking us along for the tour, cheers!
Thank you very much.
I really do not think there is a shred of evidence that backs up the idea that casual rockhounds collecting with purpose and withing reason get places closed down at all but there is plenty of evidence both in the form of news story's and government land agencies bulletins about closing areas down because someone decided it would be a good idea to bring their mini excavator to a rockhounding location so they can support their etsy page or vend at show or they show up to an area for weeks at a time and load a truck and trail to the point they can't really drive it. We all know it happens but when someone is blatantly admitting to it at shows to random people they gotta go since they are not even smart enough to lie about what they do.
Thanks for sharing Jared and Sara, very much appreciated! Was even better seeing friends that live far afield from me and getting a few minutes to catch up.👍👍 Hope the rest of your trip went well and was a ton of fun.✔✔ Always fun IMO to oogle pretty rocks and minerals and geek out on lapidary etc with like minded folks.🤔 Anyway, thanks again for stopping in and saying hi. I really appreciate seeing you again. Talk again soon. Have a great week~
It was great seeing you as well and I'm looking forward to a fun future trip together!
This is exactly why I enjoy your videos. The fun, love, passion, curiosity, and ethical aproach both of you have to this subject. Please keep it up.
Thank you very much!
Excellent coverage of the show, and noting the use issue as well
Thank you!
Thank you for the tour of the show! I didn't get to go again, but for a good reason this year. The show was cool. The mineral specimens were pretty darn cool! And I agree with your anger about those that collect from BLM and then go and vend the stuff they got, with the intent of making money. It is illegal and wrong and as a vendor with that rock club, it makes the whole rock club look bad. I'm glad brought that up! Thanks for the reminder to the clubs out there doing or allowing it to be done, through them! Thanks Jared!
Thanks for taking us to the show.
I'm glad you liked it.
Major kudos for all you do for the community, simple little things that help make contacts like sharing their cards. There is just so much going on there, from the walk in the woods to the mini stands for DnD. I was mostly surprised with the shine on the pyrite, those were blindingly shiny. The core you got was an amazing idea, not sure I understood the dye conversation, I have a few dyed stones but I'm not a big fan of it, but it doesn't offend me either. Integrity is not for everyone unfortunately. I was taught it's only illegal if you get caught, as a kid. As an adult it's an integrity check. I'll get belligerently political if I continue so, yeah them some nice rocks!
So there is a place here that makes candle holders and the way they do it is they dye rocks then core wholes in them for the candle and sell the cores they pull out. Normally the way things are dyed is with super hot chemical baths so I would like to remove it.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding that make more sense then what I thought I was hearing, i appreciate the clarification.
Thanks; Sean reminded me very much of my late brother; was difficult to not be a bit choked-up.
Have you ever considered crossing the border for big shows? The big BC Lapidary society show is happening May 10-12. There's a camp ground right beside it (though I've heard many vendors who are there all weekend camp behind the big building it's held at! I'm not affiliated with it, I'm just a low-level volunteer:)
I also appreciate hearing your thoughts as you go through the displays. Most people in my club just put their finished stuff in the cases with few labels, so I your comments make me feel validated that I put some "in progress" stones still on dops, and used slabs/rough as displays for finished jewelry made with that stone:)
We would love to go to that show, but unfortunately, it's an 8-hour drive each way for us, which is a little bit too costly of a trip just to make a show video even if it would be a blast to do so. The UA-cam videos are what make these things happen, and I have to consider the financials of it.
Labels are key to a good display, they add context and information for the person looking at the case. Context and story telling are what set a good case apart from the rest.
Thanks
I'm glad you liked it.
That was a very nice show! Loved all the cool displays. Really cool lava bomb. I went to my local Wisconsin Geological Society rock show in Wauwatosa, Wi, this past weekend. It would be a sad comparison between these shows. Lots more vendors, displays, affordable stuff at the Portland show there. Bummer that slab broke. I'm sure you can still make some neat things with it. And I'd love to see a video on removing dye from agates. Thanks for sharing, Jared. I agree the club should do something about said vendors. Definitely a bad look and bad example. Have a great day, Jared.
I would love to see more show videos, next time you have one locally it would be great to see it.
I'm not really a big fan of dyed rocks but I would be a fan of removing said dye!
Great rant. It was very informational. I don't think a lot of people "think" that they are miners until you explain what they are doing. I like the JRP! Jarrod Rock Police
I wouldn't call it a rant.
It is an issue that I think is important and should be addressed as it effects everyone involved.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding True. I thought we all like to call your 'rants' in a fun way not a serious way. I love your podcast and am only joking about rants. I am sorry.
@@kidcurry4107 Oh I took no offense or anything to it. :)
Great episode!!!
Thank you!
The second slab you show looks like it could be pigeon blood Agate from Utah. I've always wondered about how some people are collecting/selling certain material, not cool if digging illegally for sure.
I enjoyed that. Thanks.
Why definitely! Items collected on BLM land is for personal use only, it is not for commercial use. And a reasonable amount for personal use is allowed, enough to sell isn't. Even collecting specificly to make jewelry to sell isn't allowed either. Obey the rules or they'll shut us hobbyists down too. Why do you have to ruin it for everybody? Are you getting so rich selling that it is worth ruining it for everyone? Definitely not!
Well said!
Good comments, people hate having their misdeeds pointed out.
Thank you!
Will there be a show for 2024 in Portland? I missed last year and was hoping to go this year. Can’t find any info on it yet though maybe I should wait another month or email them?
I'm not sure. I'm also not seeing anything online about it.
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Too bad I missed you, mom and I went Friday am. I almost went back on Saturday. Mom bought ear rings.
We were not sure if we were actually going to make it this year but I'm glad we did.
I’m very curious on the selling of items. I totally agree that you shouldn’t rockhound for the sake of making a profit off your finds. If you have a claim on public land does that allow selling the items? There is a UA-cam couple that sells everything they find and they talk about putting a claim on all these areas. I don’t like the fact that people can “claim” an area and prevent people from enjoying public lands for their own profit. I understand mineral claims on rare minerals like gold, silver, lithium. But not claims on petrified wood or agates.
Correct if you have a claim on public land it does allow you to sell the minerals from that claim.
What are your top 3 favorite minerals?
I like the zeolite group, calcite, and garnets.
Yeah... every land manager I've read has the words "personal use" in their rules and that just about shoots down any argument. Those types of dealers have been at every show I've been to though.
I have seen a little bit here and there but this was the most blatant I have seen.
So, About the "rant", I dont disagree on the legality of it, and I dont know that "Value added" would fly with rocks, tho I do think it has worked in case law in other areas, so it might. But I also do not 100% agree either. Since I didnt see how much material they had, I cant really say how I would feel about it, But I kinda look at it like this personally, If someone is in there with a Backhoe and a Dump truck hauling out tons and tons of material without a claim, THAT is what I personally would get angry about and consider illegal mining.
But if its a guy with a pick axe and a back pack haulin out 30 or 40 lbs at a time, I have a real hard time getting mad about that. Especially without knowing WHY they were selling it, why they have not filed a claim,I know nothing about the claim process, or how much if anything it costs. I dont know the persons story, Did they fall on hard times and need money fast, was it greed motivated, did they have an unexpected expense pop up that they had to cover. Are they just trying to survive and feed their family?
I do agree 100% that it is illegal tho. But the why matters, to me,if the dude is just out to make a quick buck, just for the sake of making a buck and using public land without a claim to elimiate overhead to make more profit, Yes I agree,He needs stopped. If it was someone that had a bunch of rocks they collected that were originally for personal use or personal collection and they fell on hard times or had a loved one fall ill, or some other unexpected expense that they were just trying to get quick cash to cover, I really would have a hard time getting angry about it.
Part of why I tend to not get upset about it, could also be where I grew up and the Generation I grew up in (Gen X), we had an unspoken code,at least in my area,that unless you see a person or animal being physically harmed, you dont get involved and you mind your own business, if someone wants to break the law, that is between them and the cops, and its the cops job to catch them. Our general default was if no person or animal is being harmed, it aint my business, and if the cops bust them, that is on them.
I see where you're coming from with this but it is really hard to know what someones exact situation is.
Well being that I'm 40 I'm kind of on the line of being Gen X and not but I really don't thinking there is any unspoken code about not getting involved in things. An example would be if someone stole your identity and took out a bunch of credit cards, are you just okay with that since there was no physical harm? How about watching someone break into your neighbors shed and steal things?
At the end of the day the way I see it is that there are these guidelines set in place for all of us to follow and if someone is not then it does effect me, you and everyone else. Nothing will change if we turn are heads to it.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Yes, it is really hard to know someones situation, which is why I wouldnt get super upset with it unless you see them selling 200lb +, Now if its clear they have hundreds and hundreds of lbs to unload, I totally agree with you, they need stopped.
How do you feel about someone going to a pay to dig site, and selling what they buy at a mark up? Just curious.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Have you never heard the Phrase "Snitches get stiches"? Or "Snitches are B*****S"? Those were common phrases back when I was in High school and when I was a young adult. I have personally saw a couple people catch a beating for snitching people out to the cops. It could be more of a Midwest Mentality tho. I am from Ohio, so maybe its just a Small Town Ohio thing lol.
@Vance Pay dig sites are generally private property, mineral claims, or government ran. You can do as you please with something you buy.
@@vance7354 I have heard those and it has always seemed to be something that low level criminals say to try and intimidate people.
So in the situation where you see a couple of guys breaking into your neighbors house when they are not home do you just let it happen?