What did they send me?
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- A while ago I ordered some chemicals, and I'm confused about what they sent me.
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Nile talks about lab safety (Chemistry is Dangerous): • Chemistry is dangerous.
"Is this stuff really that dangerous?" something you do not want to hear from the chemist who ordered the chemicals.
Also him 6 second later: "here you go, 8 liters of DMF"
😂
Save the Vermiculite. It is beneficial for insulation at high temperatures. It is also useful in amending soil for house plants.
It's also getting VERY expensive. I couldn't believe the last time I bought a bag and it was $8!!!
Fun fact about Vermiculite not many people know, if you drop it from a 3 story building onto pedestrians they'll instantly get mad at you.
@@PrismaticCrafterYeah, but then something worse happens: lawyers.
@@JWC_4_2_0 The magic of chemistry!
Yes! I've paid so much for this stuff in tiny bags for gardening 😅
Life supply of kitty litter
My cat will use it once and then refuse it because it stinks too much
@@Matt..SWould you use a toilet with shit in it already?
@@illustriouschin Is he a cat?
Obviously never had a cat before.. that's like a week or two
No.
You can reuse that vermiculite, keep it in an open box with a scoop in case of spills.
It's like having a fire extinguisher but for chemicals.
Truth
Meanwhile my DMF just came in a 5L plastic jerrycan, no box. Though some companies will ship the most mundane things with excessive packaging, and I also hate vermiculite. My favorite was 1L SOCl2 that came in a screwed shut tiny wooden box.
hey it's Chemoleus
Hi
dude, I am subscribed to you!
what is DMF ? Dimethyl-something ?
Dimethylformamide is a good solvent. Look up the Wikipedia article for more details
0:50 The fact they put peanuts in the box is the funniest part.
You don't want to bruise your vermiculite.
cant be shattering the vermiculite
@@timelessperspective im pretty sure they were adding to the joke of how useless it was
@dishria indeed that was the case. Sarcasm is hard in text.
@@timelessperspective lol i get you
Nile's next video: "I turned Vermiculite into fruit by the foot"
“Is this THAT dangerous?”
I don’t know, you tell us…
No, probably not *that* dangerous. As far as most chemicals go, DMF is relatively benign. You still wouldn't want a spill of many liters of it somewhere in a distribution center. This is not just because of the known risks and the required decontamination procedures, but also because in case of a spill it can be hard to trace the origin. So, you'd always have to assume the worst when bringing in the hazmat team.
Much better if the product is packaged securely and doesn't leak in the first place
@@gutschke Issue is its a very good solvent for plastics & adhesives. My guess the company shipped it the past without an asorbent and causes a lot of damage destroying any plastics, plain & leaving a stick goo from the the plastic\paint residue.
Average overseas chemicals ordering experience.
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@Suger_woSo true! Can't wait for my eventual demise!😄👍
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Free advice: leave the bag in the box while extracting the contents.
Doesn’t look as interesting for the video ;)
Faux ineptitude for the views.
free advice: if you're making a youtube video ALWAYS MAKE THE BIGGEST MESS POSSIBLE.... if he broke one of the bottles on purpose he would've gotten 10 times more views, but apparently he needs the content so, that was not an option
that's why you order 3 bottle: 1 to break on video that will pay out for the other 2 bottle that you gonna use for the project!
you sure you know how youtube works?
@adrianhenle : "Free advice: leave the bag in the box while extracting the contents."
LOL! You should have charged him!
I’m guessing Nigel would have had that thought as well, but still took the bag out for curiosity
Next time when you open an empty box, try to test which noble gas it is.
Hope it's not hydrogen
@@ivanjermakov hydrogen isnt a noble gas though
@@awesomestuff9715 that's why you hope it isn't hydrogen, your noble gas tests won't work
can you test for those? since they don't react with anything, I'd imagine that's hard without some sort of expensive scanner
Oh my god no. I gave myself a good whiff of air from a packaged UPS (by mistake, it was a big box, and I leaned into it to pick the heavy thing out) and it made me nauseated for a full five minutes.
Meanwhile I buy several hundred dollars of RAM from amazon and they ship it to me in one of those flimsy, single layer of bubble wrap lined envelopes. 😐
I got a 16TB hard drive in a flimsy plastic bag....
I odered a Asus rog psu 850w from amazon the thing was not packed in any cardboard. It was just the psu packaging with the shiping label taped to it.
@@asicdathens :-(
@@asicdathens You mean an Anti-Static Hard drive bag, the correct way they are meant to be shipped.
@@saladin7467 I mean ideally the antistatic bag is also inside some sort of carrier so that it doesn't get damaged (as much) when the shipping partner throws it over the fence.
"Why the stuff they shipped is in the corners?"
Because physics. It was probably centered in the vermiculite and moved around during shipping.
If someone's going to send me not only the chemicals I ordered but also enough material to clean up my mess I'm going to shop with them regularly.
Yup. Looks right for class 3 DG (dangerous goods) packaging.
Vermiculite is a pain, but so useful.
Vermiculite used to be used for insulation too, until a bunch of it was found to be contaminated with asbestos. Imagine cutting into a wall and having a waterfall of Vermiculite come rushing out. Fun times 🤦
Until the 1990s, 80% of the world vermiculite was estimated you have come from the same asbestos-contaminated mine. That's what gave it a bit of a reputation. Vermiculite by itself is harmless, and the mine has since been closed. So, you don't need to worry about modern uses. If you have an older house, this could very well be a problem though. Vermiculite has lots of applications and could be in different parts of your house
@gutschke oh the house is a 1700 something barn which was converted into the house, insulated somewhere in the 1940s to 1960s... it definitely was installed before that mine was closed. The stuff is nasty though whether or not it is contaminated, it is so dusty!
Been there. That and blown in cellulose. Good fun when doing electrical 😅
"90% of the weight is just trash" - i feel personally attacked😂
so go to the gym and do something about it?
They're trying to ship it with enough sorbents to neutralize any spills... shipping solvents in glass is no joke!
There are, however, rated intermodal plastic containers that don't involve this nonsense. The packaging is because you got a glass bottle.
It doesn’t protect the solvent, it protects the surroundings. When it breaks the litter soaks it up and the chemicals don’t damage other parcels. Or the specialized machines in the sorting warehouse. They’d get sued for a lot of money.
Might be that for every X liters of liquid, there has to be X amount of vermiculite in the box per law in the country the company ships from. Or even if both containers fail, the vermiculite layer on the part that is currently the bottom has to absorb the full amount. Some countries do not fuck around with "dangerous" chemical shipments.
Obviously, but if it's wedged in the corner that also increases the risk that any leaks bleed through instead of being absorbed, because the vermiculite is only on one side
@@bosstowndynamics5488 might have moved in the transport plus it’s in a plastic bag so leakage wouldn’t be that fast
@@ile_klikow What I'm getting at here is that Nigel's original complaint, that the vermiculite wasn't providing the protection it was supposed to, was entirely valid
@@ile_klikowi don't think bottle can move through sand-like material due to transportation vibrations. Most likely it was moved while they fill the bag with this litter.
Also, this is plastic solvent, so bag provides zero protection from leaks here)
Cameraman: "👁️👄👁️"
Nile: "Anyways ...... Should I taste it?"
I think they were afraid of the shipping company more than the chemicals, you know the ones where the cracked glass and the up arrow pictograms translate to "Fragile! Throw underhand!"
Ah, so most shipping companies now, because the government is a big pyramid scheme
we have one or two specific supplliers at work that insist on sending every flammable liquid in a bag of this stuff and its one heck of a mess every time.
few years back we did a large screening with loads of different organosilanes that came with so much of this stuff i'm convinced I'd still be finding remnants of it if we hadn't moved labs since.
Gotta say, seeing as how they were so carefully packaged, it made me quite nervous that he was handling those bottles with just one hand over a concrete floor.
Looking DMF up it sounds like it isn't especially dangerous or corrosive. You wouldn't want to drink a bottle of it, but it's pretty low on the hazard scale compared to some of the stuff he's handled.
There's a reason he was emphasizing how over-the-top the careful packaging was
The excessive packaging is probably more because of how badly shipping companies handle their packages and only to a lesser degree because of the objective risks from exposure to DMF
Safety 10/10? I thought safety was third?
Only when Osmann is around.
I've seen way too many of Kevin's (Backyardscienstist) videos, and it all averages out.
@@michaelmoorrees3585 You mean the Backdoor Scientist?
*guitar riff* Shake hands with danger!
thats why he rated it 1/10 (the safety had no relevance to the unpacking experience).
‘It’s up to the consumer to be environmentally friendly’
Vermiculite itself is environmentally friendly, as in every gardener from Sherbrooke to Gatineau is salivating at the chance of getting their hands on it.
@@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co thank you for explaining!
@@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co the extra fuel used to ship all that weight isnt though.
@@mrrooter601 vermiculite is very light as well, not that much heavier than the packing peanuts
Plus, the fuel being burned isn't causing as much of a problem as our factories and power plants, as well as our farming practices (specifically we don't take care of the topsoil, so we might end up having another incident like the dust bowl soon)
Nile ordering his box full of cat litter for his cat boy persona
Nooo nileneko
why would you make me read this
@@dutmala Nileneko should become a thing.
tf does that mean
FelixRad
Hopefully you give the vermiculite to a gardener and don't send it to the dump.
This... I am drooling over the free soil additive....
Also useful for high temperature insulation as well!
isn't there any risk of introducing foreign pathogens or species of anything that would be bad?(edit) asking because i've never seem vermiculite ever before.
Don't breathe the dust
@@katarn109 you can use 50% vermiculite and 50% perlite as a growing medium for hydroponics. I fed 2 rabbits for 2 years on the produce I grew in a cabinet with LED lighting. Not a shred of "soil" anywhere.
@@TechGorilla1987and you call that "food"? That's the bunny equivilant of feeding them mcdonalds.
shipping companies have standards for shipping hazmats, and greatly appreciate when they dont have to clean up DMF in the back of a truck.
It looks like someone complained about the state that their DMF arrived in so the packager went alittle overboard with the next order.
They use the same shit in our company to ship our samples to our customers. If we want a sample from another plant and we order it, they handle it like a regular shipment and also fill in this glitter/litter shit.
When we get these packages and open them - no matter how precautious you are - the glitter/litter is everywhere on your Labcoat and your arms
now you can make the best plant prep for years with that vermiculite
Yeah, he could grow some of the ingredients for his experiments lol
Or just grow some nice plants
Shipping regs for liquids have recently changed. I sent some bottles of potable liquid by mail and each bottle had to be bagged in 3 bags with each bag containing enough absorbent material to absorb the liquid entirely.
Probably because of other packages being ruined by liquids being shipped whose bottles have broken. At least they're doing something, even if it's because they don't wanna lose money?
Mystery box video my fav
Time to grow some mushrooms
This video should have been called "What's in the box?!"
Clearly wasn't thinking a head there
I read the title as "WHY did they send me" ... was looking forward to finally finding out
For anyone interested... it was packed this way because it was shipped by Passanger Plane, AITA/UN rule dictate how you have to pack it
DMF is used in the production of squishy toys. Is Nile making giant squishy toys with this massive amount of DMF? A squishy Nile head? Or just NMR spectroscopy? The possibilities are varied.
DMF is used for a very wide range of reactions and extractions so I dunno if it would be a squishy toy-thing haha. But it surely would be funny
DMF is also used to absorb Acetylene from Ethylene. I used to work with DMF in a chemical plant. The stuff is so dangerous that, without proper protection, It can make men infertile.
You could always use it as a substrate to grow the biggest batch of magic mushrooms the world has ever seen !
1:18 my parents describing me to their friends
To choose safety over comfort is the logical thing to do, captain.
As a guy who works in a warehouse, I see excessive packaging more often than I'd like. I can most certainly relate.
Looking forward to seeing when you turn the vermiculite into
Keep the vermiculite, it works great for all kinds off stuff. That much would be rather expensive too. DMF is an awsome solvent for reactions too.
Nigel you should have;
1) cut the box open to not need to lift it out
2) taken the two inner bags away from the first one (and disposed of the first one)
3) cut open the other two bags using a fresh pair of gloves
4) removed the dirty outer bags and then cut open the inner bag in a cleaner location
That way you'd both have a cleaner outcome and not have held those two bottles so precariously over the floor like that.
New project: Lab litter tray for the bros
Vermiculite has a history of having asbestos from what my old maintenance guy told me years ago.
Wow, ya thats vermiculite ... I'd take that for the garden.
If you know someone who likes to garden, give it to them.
They would think it an odd gift ... but a very useful one.
Do you know when the video about making your own neodymium magnet will come out? Please take your time on it but I'd love to see an update!
Not only soaking up the liquid if bottles break, also insulating and unburnable (it's a mineral) in case of fire.
Keep the vermiculite, recycle, use as spill kit. Same with box and packing foam, reuse.
Mix it with some organics and some slow release fertilisers and you got yourself a nice batch of potting mix.
You know what I see? A free bag of liquid spill absorbant
nile now has to make candy out of the vermiculite
Hey look on the bright side, free vermiculite!
Vermiculite is super messy. I have to use it to ship helium tanks that dont have original box with regulation info. I will say it can be useful, its like spunge crumbles for chemicals
They probably just assumed you would step outside to open the shipper.
Yup I know that stuff - it's always a mess
lol the ad after this video was for cat litter
Some of the chemicals my lab orders are shipped in vermiculite inside essentially paint cans. I HATE opening them, because the metal cans are just a hair too small to dig around in to find the chemicals without spilling vermiculite everywhere. It's just a giant mess!
This is how responsible sellers ship liquid chemicals. You opened it like a mad man. Everything stays in the box and you cut the cable tie, lift the bottles up and cut them out. You're left with a box you just tape up and your bottles.
Bolt has scared me for life I think
yeah, you might want to consider using a respirator when handling that vermiculite. . . sometimes it can have traces of asbestos
number on number is so weird to me, i've always only heard number out of number
On the bright side, now if you spill anything now you have a bag full of cleaning supply
Pretty sure that's the same stuff we use for oil spills in heavy equipment shops.
You could make a full hydroponics setup with that vermiculite, use chemistry to make fertilizer and grow some lettuce.
They probably calculated the amount of material that would be required if both bottles broke and the glass cut through the internal bags and all of the solvent spilled...sort of a worst case scenario, and their shipping contractor might require them to do that in order to accept their shipments of certain things....
This was the company’s way of telling you its finally time to get a pet cat
we use that stuff when making potting mix holds water in the soil
should do some experiment with that cat litter stuff
"is this really that dangerous?" BOOM
Future NileRed video: "Today we are going to turn vermiculite into Guinness-record-strong concrete. There was that time I ordered DMF and got a large amount of vermiculite for a steal---free, in fact..."
The elephant in the room: They also sent you more free cinnamon heart candy---some assembly required---in the form of those Styrofoam packing peanuts.
I mean, that's a whole lot of free vermiculite. I wouldn't be complaining.
Just as he picks up the jug, it slips from his hand and breaks, spilling the contents in the Vermiculite.
It's against federal law to ship solvents on planes. If there was the slightest chance of that going in the air is why it's packed like that.
They were trying to cover their asses even though it doesn't matter how it's packed.
Its not against the law. Private aircraft can legally transport solvents.
I would love to have all that vermiculite! It's very useful in the garden.
I used to use vermiculite to amend potting soil or to root cuttings. I don’t recall it being so dense.
If you mix that vermiculite 50/50 with compost and sterilize the mixture, it’s a great bulk medium for growing mushrooms…
Vermiculite is a great medium for growing..uhh..fungi. Among other things.
The packing popcorn was so helpful in this shipping. 😂
“is that two liters or four?”
- someone who definitely hasn’t seen a handle of booze before
Must be a big cat you've got LOL
Deconstruct the box Nigel!
You should turn that kitty litter into a glass cup
"This is chemicals?" He says as he pokes at it. LOL
Gilbert grape's Mamas remains 💀😭
some of that dust just entered my eyes i swear
He could use that for the inevitable spills he'll create in the shop..... LoL 😂
I didn't actually know what vermiculite was for, I thought it was fertilizer, I used it to grow magic mushrooms one time
Excellent packaging. You're supposed to open it and take out the bottle's while they're IN the box. I wonder how they would package HF for shipping?
Looks like some of our cyclohexane shipments when they come in glass 1L or 4L bottles. Bit overkill, but nasty stuff.
safety first...
I guess the kitty litter is there to soak it up if it breaks.
That's a small fortune in vermiculite, mix it with coco coir or peat moss, add some perlite, dolomite lime, worm castings, kelp meal, bone meal, chicken manure, water it well, let it age 2-3 weeks, plant tomatoes in it.
nah cmon yall vermiculite isnt even that expensive. "small fortune" lmao... 100L or around 10kg for 29€ (US$31) really isnt expensive.
This is what happens when Nile drunk orders at 3 AM.
I remember the last time I ordered glacial acetic acid, it came packed like that, and I could still smell it before I opened the box.
Granted, it's been a long time so things have probably changed but, the last time I bought glacial acetic acid, I just walked into the camera store, grabbed a bottle off the shelf, paid for it, tossed it onto my car seat and drove home. No special packaging; just a bare bottle.
Please. I used to have to order a 5g bottle of MVK. It had to ship on a truck with no consumer goods. It was packed inside a bag filled with vermiculite, in a 500mL can with the excess space packed with a PIG absorbent lining pad. Inside a bag. Tucked inside a 2L can packed with vermiculite, that you had to use pliers to pry off the protective plastic ring from. Inside another bag, in a box.
Vermiculite weighs next to nothing. How is it 90% of the package weight?
I give a 9.5 out of 10 on safety, vermiculite can contain asbestos, depending on where it's sourced.
The chance of finding any type of asbestos in any type of Vermiculite product nowadays is extremely small. Most of the vermiculite that contained asbestos was mined in the Libby mine in the USA.
next up, watch him turn packing material into Funyuns