Paladin just got murdered... nerfs & buffs revealed!

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  • Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
  • Blizzard just released the details for their newest patch, which brings some significant balance changes to Paladin, Warrior, and more.
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  • @user-qi6rl9yh5i
    @user-qi6rl9yh5i 3 місяці тому +51

    Shroomscavate should cost (1) with the same effect, but with overload 1. That way it has some shaman stuff left in the card

    • @mossysnail6857
      @mossysnail6857 3 місяці тому +1

      how's about summon a random totem? or you snag an overload card at random too?

    • @nerdock4747
      @nerdock4747 2 місяці тому

      Bizarre that windfury has higher than a 1 mana value (to the surprise of no one).

  • @zalanmarkus4939
    @zalanmarkus4939 3 місяці тому +90

    Shroomscavate just lost its shaman flavor, it's now just a paladin card that shaman can use

    • @TheodoreTooth
      @TheodoreTooth 3 місяці тому +23

      good. paladin shouldnt have access to windfury.

    • @natterbrot
      @natterbrot 3 місяці тому +34

      Yeah, so weird. I liked the idea someone had of "Evolve a minion, then give it Divine Shield. Excavate."

    • @Pikaton659
      @Pikaton659 3 місяці тому +7

      Just like how Pendant of Earth is just a priest card druids can play. They don't care about flavour

    • @skulliam4
      @skulliam4 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@natterbrotI thought "can't attack heroes this turn" would also be good

    • @Mendighoul
      @Mendighoul 3 місяці тому +3

      To hell with flavour. We need balance.

  • @mica4977
    @mica4977 3 місяці тому +52

    I enjoyed this formating of showcasing all cards/changes real quick followed by the deep-dive

    • @moreregis
      @moreregis  3 місяці тому +32

      Thanks! Will probably hurt views because watch time will be lower, but just wanted to maximize convenience.

    • @sensei470
      @sensei470 3 місяці тому +3

      @@moreregis I watched it to the end. hearing thoughts on the changes can be very informative about future deckbuilding. Also dont underestimate people unsubbing content creators for annoyingly maximizing their views/ income. Also people stay loyal to creators who try to make convenient content. At least thats how i feel.

  • @buddyhoss
    @buddyhoss 3 місяці тому +23

    Shroomscavate lost all its dual class flavor. It's just a Paladin themed card, now. Not that I'm sad to see the Windfury go...

    • @user-qi6rl9yh5i
      @user-qi6rl9yh5i 3 місяці тому +2

      Wait until you see chaos creation

    • @buddyhoss
      @buddyhoss 3 місяці тому +3

      @@user-qi6rl9yh5i I know there's no synergy with burninating the bottom of your Mage deck, but it's still a Firelands Portal (Mage) mixed with Warlock Fel school with downsides (Warlock). It's flavorful as well. There's no Shaman flavor in any aspect of Shroomscavate, now.

    • @mossysnail6857
      @mossysnail6857 3 місяці тому

      @@buddyhoss why not have it add a random shammy card to your hand along with the treasure you get?

    • @axeltheinternetsweeper8082
      @axeltheinternetsweeper8082 3 місяці тому

      ​@@mossysnail6857when in doubt
      Slap in overload and call it shaman card

  • @eamk887
    @eamk887 3 місяці тому +27

    I don't really understand why they didn't just replace Windfury with Overload. They could have made it cost 1 mana and give it Overload 1. That way the flavor would've stayed.

    • @Pinhead64
      @Pinhead64 3 місяці тому +2

      The thing was that shroomscavate would often be held till Leeroy Jenkins could pull off lethal damage with the windfury. Pretty much the only way you could nerf it properly is taking away the windfury

    • @DiminutiveJerry
      @DiminutiveJerry 3 місяці тому +3

      They meant replacing windfury with overload to keep dual-class representation. As of now its basically just a paladin card. ​@@Pinhead64

  • @mica4977
    @mica4977 3 місяці тому +26

    Wonder if they could have made Shroomscavate a "windfurry but can't hit heros this turn" style card to retain how dangerous it can be but not allow insane out of hand lethals

    • @alecshockowitz8385
      @alecshockowitz8385 3 місяці тому +1

      I'd prefer that tbh.
      A lot of decks have high lethality rn, and being able to shroomscavate in tough matches for the doubled up life steal was key to surviving things like hunter in my experience
      Lethals from hand were the problem, but as it currently stands handbuff paladin will likely be quite bad, as what was elevating handbuff so high was high life steal and lethality from hand. Losing the lethality from hand would have been fine I think.

  • @correa223
    @correa223 3 місяці тому +5

    Thank you for doing the overview at the top. I know it will probably hurt your retention. However, it puts all the discussion in context and helps make it more understandable. Love it.

  • @otakureiss
    @otakureiss 3 місяці тому +5

    big thing about tremors nerf is that you won't get triple buffs from Observer of Myths on your tremor worms anymore

  • @drkmichael8365
    @drkmichael8365 3 місяці тому +22

    I'm glad about deputization aura. It just kept their board as such an annoying big threat it was no fun to play against. Way too aggro

  • @kimonskretas5610
    @kimonskretas5610 3 місяці тому +6

    Aviana should be changed to add 10 feather of aviana cards to your deck, with the feather being cast when drawn : discover a legendary it costs 1 . Otherwise it's never a playable card

    • @shanemayberry8092
      @shanemayberry8092 3 місяці тому

      Amazing idea. Would play this card.

    • @NeedForMotivationn
      @NeedForMotivationn 3 місяці тому

      That would be broken lmao. It would be okay if it was 5 feathers instead

    • @TheRavingLobster
      @TheRavingLobster 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@NeedForMotivationnBroken? It would literally double the cost. It would go from drawing a random legendary that cost 1 to "spend 1 mana to discover a random legendary and then spend another 1 mana to play it" AND the first part is now counter-spellable now.
      So it doubles the costs, still comes down to a random 1 out of 3, and is counter spellable/ice trapable etc. I think that's a perfectly fine tradeoff.

  • @UnforgivingEnd
    @UnforgivingEnd 3 місяці тому +8

    The Shroomscavate no longer make sense as a dual class card.
    As others have states, they shouldve just made the card unable to attack heroes the turn it came down.
    Now its just sooooo shitty.

    • @eamk887
      @eamk887 3 місяці тому +1

      Or they could have replaced Windfury with another element common with Shaman, for example, Overload.

    • @Pikaton659
      @Pikaton659 3 місяці тому +2

      They don't care about dual class cards making sense, they already did this with the Priest/Druid card by removing it's armor gain, making it just a Priest card

  • @MichaelSmith-zw5fu
    @MichaelSmith-zw5fu 3 місяці тому +6

    The handbuff weapon should have been nerfed.

  • @devinsimmering1468
    @devinsimmering1468 3 місяці тому +1

    I thought for sure that the Zilliax change was going to add but not less then 1 to ticking

  • @42VictorPessoa
    @42VictorPessoa 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm a returning player,and I got the Warrior deck as a starter deck. It feels kind bad to get your newly card to comeback and have fun nerfed. If this was their plan, I think it would be better to had offered something different for new players.

  • @evanriley9526
    @evanriley9526 3 місяці тому

    I can't remember the last time I've seen Regis review patch notes! 🙌

  • @TheRavingLobster
    @TheRavingLobster 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro for Frost Lich Cross Stitch they gotta give the Elemental Life Steal just like the Frost Lich Jaina ones have. That would make this card actually (possibly) playable and it would actually line up with the flavour as well as their own previously established mechanics.
    Otherwise why did they even name it that?
    (I mean obviously they named it that because they wanted a reason to say "Frost Lich Cross Stitch", and I totally respect that, great meme; but they forgot to actually make the flavour fully match the mechanics, which would have in turn actually made it a usable and still perfectly balanced card)

  • @soapfoam
    @soapfoam 3 місяці тому

    I had thought the move would be to keep windfury on shroomscavate and put it past Leeroy OTK mana (6-cost or higher) while giving it a stat buff as well (+4/4?). Removing windfury and down to 2 seems like it's changing the card but still being useful I guess.

  • @kcclubkirby
    @kcclubkirby 3 місяці тому

    The first time I saw the Leeroy windfury combo, I needed a break. 😆 I think the change makes the game healthier, even if it has now lost the Shaman flavor. I wonder if replacing it with Spell Damage + 1 would have made sense.

  • @idiom453
    @idiom453 3 місяці тому +3

    Paladin murdered. Couldn't have happened to a better class.

  • @mica4977
    @mica4977 3 місяці тому

    I have loved Control Hunter for so long and would have loved to have Deathstalker Rexxar in rotation to allow a slower gameplay that won't run out of value.

  • @solidman8360
    @solidman8360 3 місяці тому +3

    In my opinion Odyn should say "the first time you gain armour each turn", maybe even the first 2 times? But increasing the cost is still obviously nice and im happy with the changes.

    • @mossysnail6857
      @mossysnail6857 3 місяці тому

      i think it should just let you get double armor, but unable to hit the hero.

  • @calvinglaspie2534
    @calvinglaspie2534 3 місяці тому +1

    I am sad shroomscavate no longer has a shaman component to it. I get the nerf but from a dual card standpoint, its just a paladin card now. Too late now, but maybe evolve (1) higher and give it divine shield?

    • @mossysnail6857
      @mossysnail6857 3 місяці тому

      Why not it gives you a mushroom that has a discover a shaman card inside?

  • @WolfuahuaVioletDoll
    @WolfuahuaVioletDoll 3 місяці тому +1

    Paladin still feeling good and powerful despite the nerfs

  • @Pikaton659
    @Pikaton659 3 місяці тому

    Even Warrior is now dead in Wild, wonder if Odd will be good enough with Odyn to take its place

    • @tessier_ashpool
      @tessier_ashpool 3 місяці тому

      Etc

    • @Pikaton659
      @Pikaton659 3 місяці тому

      @@tessier_ashpool Oh right I always forget about that

  • @ThatW3lshGuy
    @ThatW3lshGuy 3 місяці тому +6

    Can I say something controversial? I think only the blood plague should deal damage to the enemy hero. I think DK was very lucky to avoid a nerf here.

    • @mica4977
      @mica4977 3 місяці тому +4

      The dmg could be reduced for other plauges to 1 while blood retains its 2 or gets bumped to 3

    • @reubensmy4493
      @reubensmy4493 3 місяці тому

      I'm going to retort with even more controversy, in that I think blood plague should add 2 health not heal two, to keep in theme with the blood rune 😬

  • @AugustoValentini
    @AugustoValentini 3 місяці тому

    I think more cards should've been changed, specially some nerfs to hunter and more buffs to mage and druid. But I like the changes they made and I'm glad shroomscavate doesn't have windfury anymore. As most people have said, it could be 1 mana + overload 1 to keep the shaman flavor, but I'm happy still.

  • @WillACarpenter
    @WillACarpenter 3 місяці тому

    Feels like the Aura could be 2 mana now at least. goddamn. And windfury in paladin was a dumb idea anyway.

  • @brianw.4171
    @brianw.4171 3 місяці тому +10

    Good. Screw paladin.

  • @alex2d
    @alex2d 3 місяці тому +2

    Unrelated to the video but I hate that even though I know full well this isn't the normal Regis channel, for some reason my brain always is tricked into thinking it is until I see that goddamn avatar with the fake glasses and nose. Honestly A+ channel rebranding, Regis

    • @moreregis
      @moreregis  3 місяці тому +3

      Most people don't realize the name is also regiskiiibin with the i as capitals.

    • @peanutbutterswelly5529
      @peanutbutterswelly5529 2 місяці тому

      @@moreregisyou sly dog

  • @reubensmy4493
    @reubensmy4493 3 місяці тому +3

    Definitely think the aura nerf was the most important. Also shroomscavate NERF will kill off excavate paladin I'm sure. Maybe removing the divine shield would have kept it playable instead?

    • @kilowyatt1107
      @kilowyatt1107 3 місяці тому +3

      lol no, it was problem cause of handbuff giving massive bodies more attacks to lifesteal from or turning leeroy into a 20 dmg burst from hand

    • @reubensmy4493
      @reubensmy4493 3 місяці тому +1

      @@kilowyatt1107 I just think the ability to remove a big threat and survive, while dealing big damage to face was the big issue

    • @kilowyatt1107
      @kilowyatt1107 3 місяці тому +1

      @@reubensmy4493 it was 100% the windfury getting added to cards like tiger or whatever body they had auras on

  • @whocares1417
    @whocares1417 3 місяці тому

    I was really excited for this set, but there have been so many decks that are just not fun to play and not fun to play against, kinda disappointed

  • @alexanderbjorklund6188
    @alexanderbjorklund6188 3 місяці тому

    When is this out?, since im playing rn and its not live

    • @bakedeveryday420
      @bakedeveryday420 3 місяці тому

      Its been live

    • @alexanderbjorklund6188
      @alexanderbjorklund6188 3 місяці тому

      @@bakedeveryday420 Maybe EU gets the update later? since i just played vs a paladin killing me with the windfury bullshit

    • @bakedeveryday420
      @bakedeveryday420 3 місяці тому

      @@alexanderbjorklund6188 oh im on na servers mb

  • @PhoenixInfeno
    @PhoenixInfeno 3 місяці тому +1

    Why is Shaman dying for everyone's sins?

  • @KhaledIron
    @KhaledIron 3 місяці тому

    Soooooooooo do I disenchant odyn? I mean he's still playable surely ?

    • @mossysnail6857
      @mossysnail6857 3 місяці тому

      well, if you can last till turn 9 sure

  • @shanemayberry8092
    @shanemayberry8092 3 місяці тому

    Crazy DK dodged every swing of the bat huh?

  • @AntheanCeilliers
    @AntheanCeilliers 3 місяці тому

    Comment to feed the algorithm and reward your HS content.

  • @shanemayberry8092
    @shanemayberry8092 3 місяці тому

    Also I have encountered zero Odin warriors so far... worst ones have been double battlecry hentai warriors.

  • @Ruddline
    @Ruddline 3 місяці тому +1

    I hate how Blizzard never buffs fun cards or prenerfs cards. Like how so much crap in Warlock is mucho problematico but lets just wait for people to realize how stupid their curve is so we can come back this time next month and give more nerfs. And when they buff they always miss opportunities to make new kinds of fun decks rise to the top. They should have buffed Khadgar and all the new spells for Mage for an example.

  • @paulomatute4114
    @paulomatute4114 3 місяці тому

    So shroomscavate has nothing to do with shaman now, sad nerf removed theming

  • @fatcat2015
    @fatcat2015 3 місяці тому

    Shaman can no longer windfury their Titan

  • @hidadsek9671
    @hidadsek9671 3 місяці тому

    Ok time to dust Odyn, it has been a fun ride with you, my friend. Since Paladin and 2 control decks get nerfed, Hunter will have more chance to shine now despite the nerf to Tremors and Zilliax since the core of the deck like Jungle Gym remains intact.

  • @TheKillerman3333
    @TheKillerman3333 3 місяці тому

    As it should be, ames should go to ten mana!

  • @Ali__C
    @Ali__C 3 місяці тому

    Odyn was a mistake of a card, i hate that card so much but love to see them addressing alot of things that are causing problems

  • @thesean161
    @thesean161 3 місяці тому

    Im ok with all of this.

  • @JasonPtt
    @JasonPtt 3 місяці тому

    Fyi your video isn't even showing in my subscription tab

    • @moreregis
      @moreregis  3 місяці тому +2

      Are you subscribed to this channel? This isn't my main channel.

    • @JasonPtt
      @JasonPtt 3 місяці тому

      @@moreregisOhh that’s confusing aren’t both channels the same name?

    • @moreregis
      @moreregis  3 місяці тому +2

      Sort of, this is RegisKiiibin with the capital letter i a couple times, and I have a disguise on my profile picture.

  • @wertzler
    @wertzler 3 місяці тому

    I honestly still think excavate pally is going to be strong if combined with handbuff more. It def slows the deck down but its still super strong with all the lifesteal and rush really frees you to ignore the board until you need to.

    • @carloseiroariera7793
      @carloseiroariera7793 3 місяці тому +1

      No way. Paladin will be forced to go super aggro and below curve with crusader aura as a finisher to survive as a tier 2-3 deck.

    • @dancorneanu9144
      @dancorneanu9144 3 місяці тому

      The rush forces you to go board and the only way to survive in a meta where you get killed in a couple of turns, is to be faster, so they will try agro. The incoming decks are all about killing you late game or hand kill. Will hunter doing hunter things.

  • @yusufbayram682
    @yusufbayram682 3 місяці тому +1

    I don’t think they did right with deputisation, it’s okey with +2, or make it at least 2 mana. But +1 and lifestill for 3… nah, i think no one will play it anymore.
    Paladin not died, it just will play it’s midrange version more, witch is still pretty okey.
    Nature Shaman died. It’s just it. Because it was barely enough to make a deck with it, just barely. You should remember that if meta slows even for one more turn, another decks will find more chances to gain back life, witch is hidden damage to nature shaman.
    DH will feel himself better, as well as other slow decks.
    But best gain is for Hunter, it’s so powerful being super aggressive without agro-paladin now on. Thats what most youtobers don’t see now.

  • @slashroar
    @slashroar 3 місяці тому

    Bruh we needed more warrior nerfs, these suck.
    Put brann at 8 mana or something

    • @mossysnail6857
      @mossysnail6857 3 місяці тому

      yeah tendril highlander war is PRETTY dope.

  • @rivetace
    @rivetace 3 місяці тому

    Nature shaman will survive, thrall's gift was one of the worst cards in the deck.

  • @gorgeouszan
    @gorgeouszan 3 місяці тому

    Good changes to Paladin. I was playing Hand buff paladin and it was stupidly powerful.

  • @prosnjons3662
    @prosnjons3662 3 місяці тому

    Thankfully paladin was awful to play against

  • @mossysnail6857
    @mossysnail6857 3 місяці тому

    windfury leeroy. IS DEAD! HAHAHHA! now ya gotta win the OLD fashioned way Shitadins!

  • @Triebwerkstoerung
    @Triebwerkstoerung 3 місяці тому

    This paladin weapon needs to lose one durability

    • @mossysnail6857
      @mossysnail6857 3 місяці тому

      or even one attack so it doesn't hurt lol