Coolest Wagons: Chevrolet's 1972 "Clamshell" Kingswood Estate!

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  • Learn more about GM's clamshell wagons and this 1972 Chevrolet Kingswood Estate!

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  • @mikyl-fo8rh
    @mikyl-fo8rh Рік тому +4

    I miss station wagons, El caminos, rancheros and even the rampage.

  • @MrTPF1
    @MrTPF1 Рік тому +9

    In the 80's, I was the third owner of a '72 Kingswood Estate. That 400 engine was a monster, but man did it suck down the gas! When people saw me coming in their rearview mirror, they just got out of the way because of the size of this beast. Good times!

  • @giantrobot9000
    @giantrobot9000 Рік тому +118

    Adam, you are crushing it lately! Dropping new videos left and right, love it! Especially love anything wagon-related.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Рік тому +12

      I think wagons must be the hardest classic cars to find as they generally had such tough lives.

    • @giantrobot9000
      @giantrobot9000 Рік тому +11

      And demolition derby attrition too

    • @aldenconsolver3428
      @aldenconsolver3428 Рік тому +7

      I find myself thinking a older wagon could be a good thing for me, I am a pretty hard working gardener and DIY guy, I got 3 big dogs and like to do a little camping. The Yukons and 'stuff like that I doubt are even as useful as a full size wagon and that Yukon or whatever costs sixty thousand!!!! bucks and by consumer reports they are not even that dependable, for half that you can get a perfectly restored wagon that will appreciate not fall apart (course you will have to take care of it).

    • @radudeATL
      @radudeATL Рік тому +6

      Just here to 🐖 back off your comment. Loving all these uploads!

    • @stormythelowcountrykitty7147
      @stormythelowcountrykitty7147 Рік тому +5

      I love so many uploads. But don’t burn out!!!

  • @ttocselbag5054
    @ttocselbag5054 Рік тому +59

    I’m an old-school wagon guy, and I’ve always loved those clamshells! ❤️

    • @adamsneidelmann8976
      @adamsneidelmann8976 Рік тому +6

      Getting really hard to find them now.

    • @ttocselbag5054
      @ttocselbag5054 Рік тому +13

      @@adamsneidelmann8976- Yeah, most guys want muscle cars and don’t appreciate these beautiful old sleds. 😒

    • @tford1601
      @tford1601 Рік тому

      I had never noticed these before! From now on I’ll be on the lookout.

  • @greensocks4507
    @greensocks4507 Рік тому +2

    The '72 Mercury Marquis wagon would be my choice. Thanks for posting.

  • @SHO1989
    @SHO1989 Рік тому +35

    My dad had a 1971 Kingswood Estate with the 400ci V8 and that thing was HUGE! My main take aways when I started driving it when I turned 16 were the AC was very strong and ice cold and the power steering was very well assisted where one could drive and turn it with their index finger only . And boy did it float. Rode very well but it was not a great handling machine around corners. I was very happy when he bought a Datsun 260z to replace it and often left it to me to drive to school when he had to drive his work car pool in the wagon . I was a very lucky 16 year old😁

  • @mickeydogtubemickeydogtube6856
    @mickeydogtubemickeydogtube6856 Рік тому +22

    Always loved the 1967/68 and 1971/72 Impala/Caprice models. Particularly the 4 door hardtop and station wagons. Sure miss the days when new model years were different each year. September roll outs were always part of the years look forward to events, including new TV shows too.

    • @TomSnyder-gx5ru
      @TomSnyder-gx5ru Рік тому +1

      You're right, I couldn't wait for September to roll around to see what the usually totally new cars looked like! There was a 'carnival like' atmosphere at the dealerships with ballons everywhere and most of them also having refreshments and drawings for prizes and packed with fellow 'gawkers' - add to that the new TV shows debuting also in September, it was truly a great time to be alive in this country!

  • @AyeCarumba221
    @AyeCarumba221 Рік тому +1

    Somebody told me to the other day that wagons are making a comeback. I could dig that. I’ve always liked them.

  • @larryclark6113
    @larryclark6113 Рік тому +9

    My parents had a '72 Kingswood. It was the fanciest car to date for our family. First car with A/C. It did have the manual tailgate, crank windows, manual locks, and all the other goodies that a standard full size Chevrolet had at the time. Loved that car. My Dad did minor customizing on occasion. The Kingswood got crossed flag emblems installed on each front fender. We did frequent the junkyard for this and that, and he liked those. We didn't have it long, I loved it just the same.

  • @gerardcousineau3478
    @gerardcousineau3478 Рік тому +40

    American cars were the way to go, between 45 and 73 this station proves it.
    Simple reliable and beautiful. 👍

    • @brians9508
      @brians9508 Рік тому +2

      simple - yes. beautiful - yes. reliable - not so much

  • @bennetfox
    @bennetfox Рік тому +11

    Grandparents had a 1976 Buick Grand Estate wagon and I was always so fascinated with how that glass would get sucked up into the roof and the tailgate would get swallowed up by the car!!!

  • @Next_Cruise_Please
    @Next_Cruise_Please Рік тому +13

    The clamshell was an innovative feature that is still recognizable at the car shows.

  • @petek6522
    @petek6522 Рік тому +1

    Something I just learned, thanks, I've always been a wagon fan

  • @foord09
    @foord09 Рік тому +1

    Love these wagons.

  • @hiitsstillme
    @hiitsstillme Рік тому +25

    We never thought much about wagons back in the day, but now we appreciate them, possibly because of their absence.
    Thanks for the review, Adam!

  • @selkiemaine
    @selkiemaine Рік тому +13

    My first car - oh I miss it to this day. I had the 454 and the towing package. That car was downright quick for its time. White - no wood - blue interior. Full electric tailgate. We called it "Moby Car". We had it in my family for 14 years, and I know the next owner kept it at least a year. What a workhorse! You DID have to baby that tailgate though - after the first few years, if it broke, nobody was willing to fix it.
    All the glass leaked, by the end, too. LOL There was a compartment under the floor, about where a 3rd row seat would be - the last couple of years I had the car, that was full of ice mid winter.
    Honestly, if I had the budget, and if I could find one, I'd have it back in a heartbeat. 7mpg city, 12 highway and all. I suspect they're awfully hard to find, though. That electric tailgate just sent 'em to the scrapyard when it wore out.

  • @SuperCommando60
    @SuperCommando60 Рік тому +29

    Love the clamshells. Great technology and style. Along with these fullsize wagons, GM also hit a home run at the same time with the full size scissor top convertibles. Would live to see a clamshell and a scissor top together in my garage.

    • @misterwhipple2870
      @misterwhipple2870 Рік тому +4

      God help you if the damned thing ever broke, and a broken rear window was raaaaaaaaaaather expensive to replace.

    • @illbebad
      @illbebad Рік тому

      @@misterwhipple2870 truth! We had a 1973 Caprice convertible, and it broke (not the window thank God) this was in the 80s, lucky to find a place that could fix it, but had to drive 20 miles with the top half up!

  • @jheller5973
    @jheller5973 Рік тому +2

    Family ordered a fully loaded 1971 Kingswood Estate Wagon. Broke it in with a cross country trip from TN to California. It had power windows, tailgate, seats, and whoa - that big 400 - always roared to life. Had the third row seat also. Mom dad and 3 kids - we all loved it.

  • @johnsullivan4858
    @johnsullivan4858 Рік тому +2

    My father had a new one of these every year from '72- '76. They were beautiful and we loved them.

  • @alanstrong55
    @alanstrong55 Рік тому +3

    Those were good wagons. Rode smoothly. Took families where they needed to be. RIP.

  • @Primus54
    @Primus54 Рік тому +7

    The downside of those clamshell wagons would be negated today through remote, key fob operated window and tailgate. And you are correct… many a camper and boat trailer were hauled by wagons back then.

  • @Al-thecarhistorian
    @Al-thecarhistorian Рік тому +8

    A stellar review of an absolutely stellar design. My all-time favorite design of the Big Three full size wagons. Besides the clamshell gate and enormous cargo capacity, these family haulers featured an optional forward facing third row seat, leaving a generous cargo area behind the third seat when in the up position. In addition, a large under floor hidden storage area existed behind the third seat whose size would embarrass many compact car's trunks.
    Of note also was the fact that these wagons were supported in the rear by leaf, rather than coil, springs.
    In 1971 I married into a strong, steadfast Chevy family. I admit, I found many Chevys of the 1970s attractive so took special note of what was availabke at the local bow tie showroom.
    While having my wife's (our) 1970 Malibu coupe in for service during the sumner of 1973, I took special note of a burgandy Impala wagon on the showroom floor. What an absolutely gorgeous vehicle! Equipped the way I wanted. But, alas, it did not come home with us.
    The following January, in the midst of the first"oil crisis", we decided to trade our 1970 Malibu. I was anxious as it was rather trouble prone and quite frankly I disliked its looks. Large vehicles were practically being given away in the St. Louis area, so we went shopping. Fell in love with a new '74 Bel Air wagon, but it was too long for our garage so we passed (boy was the salesman pissed). We ended up buying a left over loaded '73 Gran Torino wagon. UGLY car in vomit green, but the price couldn't be beat. Quality wise it wasn't any better than the Malibu had been.
    Fast forward to 1982. New wife. New city. Wife has a cafeteria business and we need a wagon to assist in said business. I find a 1976 Pontiac Bonbeville Grand Safari wagon. Absolutely loaded, including the third seat and power clamshell. I can assure you it was a vehicle that surpassed even the loftiest of expectations. Never failed us. Absolutely zero clamshell issues. Wonderful to drive. Stylish. Comfortable. Endless capacity when the seat were down. And the sound it made when you floored it will never be duplicated by any electric car!
    The clamshell was a clever and stylish design. To me, it remains one of GM's "better ideas".

  • @machpodfan
    @machpodfan Рік тому +2

    In middle school we carpooled with a '71 Buick Estate wagon clamshell vs. a '72 Country Sedan. The Ford was obviously less complex to deploy that rear entrance, but the Buick had the edge for sheer fascination! I loved watching the door and window power down and up, very James Bond, I thought as a 13-year-old.❤❤❤

  • @billblake4029
    @billblake4029 Рік тому +38

    Adam, I am seriously trying to imagine how cool Pontiac's version had to be ? Especially without the woodgrain on the outside.
    Thank you for all of your time and efforts Adam. I know I am not the only one who truly appreciates it.

    • @420031
      @420031 Рік тому +10

      My parents had a 72 Pontiac Laurentian Wagon (Canadian and no wood). I’d love to find one, it looked great.....loved the Buick as well.

    • @SeaTravelr123
      @SeaTravelr123 Рік тому +8

      I had a 74 Grand Safari with no wood, it was really very cool.. wish i had that storage nowadays.. you could put plywood and sheetrock in them with out a problem..

    • @gbriank1
      @gbriank1 Рік тому +1

      k don't think he responds here, but does read the comments.

    • @yossarian6799
      @yossarian6799 Рік тому +6

      @@SeaTravelr123 and on one particular occassion, we squeezed 13 cub scouts and two nerve-rattled den mothers in one.

    • @knytrydr73
      @knytrydr73 Рік тому +6

      Everything GM made, Pontiac made better.

  • @Roosterbate44
    @Roosterbate44 Рік тому +5

    I remember my dad buying this wagon for my mom. Great memories 😊

  • @sheehy933
    @sheehy933 Рік тому +17

    I had one of these when my kids were still very young. It was a great wagon for family outings. My wife drove it more than I did and she loved it.

  • @charlesb7019
    @charlesb7019 Рік тому +6

    Our neighbors had the Oldsmobile version - the Custom Cruiser. Bright orange metallic with the wood grain. It was an amazing car. The thing I remember most, aside from the looks, was riding it the back listening to the gasoline sloshing around in the tank. 🤣😂.

  • @rodneybyrd9516
    @rodneybyrd9516 Рік тому +8

    We had a '71 Kingswood (louvers) with no woodgrain. 402 big block with the clamshell rear! My Daddy (RIP) was a woodworker, and he loved that loading deck, holding a whole sheet of plywood with ease. We sold the car around 1980 and had big Buick and Chrysler sedans after that and in the late 90s, they switched to Chrysler minivans.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Рік тому +3

      I remember our 73 Caprice wagon getting loaded with lumber as well. Nowadays most pickups can't carry a full sheet of plywood with their tailgates closed.

  • @bsquared4604
    @bsquared4604 Рік тому +19

    There were also issues with the power ones breaking and getting stuck. My parents bought a 73 impala wagon with the non power tailgate. It was so unique, she spent a lot of time demo-ing it to the neighbors.

    • @roger628
      @roger628 Рік тому +4

      Some people in my neighborhood had a Pontiac with the power gate. At about 9 years old, it broke, and it sat parked in their driveway for years with about a ten inch gap between the gate and the glass.

  • @RadioReprised
    @RadioReprised Рік тому +1

    We had a '69 Kingswood Estate in this same color combo and a 350 4 Barrel/400 it went almost 200K with no issue other than eating U-joints every 50K! Best Drive in Movie Car ever!

  • @Tk-ou9ec
    @Tk-ou9ec Рік тому +1

    Fascinating. We had a Holden kingswood wagon and sedan here in Australia in the 70’s

  • @joescambait
    @joescambait Рік тому +1

    my dad had a 74 Buick Estate Wagon it was awesome

  • @MrOnemanop
    @MrOnemanop Рік тому +10

    Love hearing about the wagons! As much as muscle cars dominate popular media, wagons hold a special place in many of our hearts. Thanks for being special Adam. Clearly by the number of views you gather, you're appreciated for what you do.

  • @shiftfocus1
    @shiftfocus1 Рік тому +8

    These have always struck me as an answer to a question nobody was asking. Complication for its own sake. And the fact that GM bailed on these with the 77 redesign, and for a straight copy of the double-acting door-gate, suggests they came to a similar conclusion.

  • @02chevyguy
    @02chevyguy Рік тому +1

    My dad worked for GM, and every car we had was a station wagon (with the exception of my sisters '66 Impala 4-door), which were all Impalas, and the '70 was a Kingswood.
    In 1973, my sister took me to one of the Texas DMV offices so I could get my drivers license. We were in her car. When it came time to parallel park, I gave the car a little too much gas, and I went over the curb. Unfortunately, I didn't pass.
    A month later, my dad took me in the wagon. The idle in that car was enough that I didn't have to press on the accelerator. I slid right into the space with no problem. I went home that day with my drivers license.

  • @motomuso
    @motomuso Рік тому +1

    My dad got one of these to pull our travel trailer/pop-up tent trailer. It was dark blue with no "wood". One of the first I got to drive as a teen.

  • @dannyg6592
    @dannyg6592 Рік тому +2

    My best pal's dad had a '71 w/454 and power tailgate. I recall it was huge, fast and the tailgate was a thing of wonder! This may have been peak GM wagon tech. Thanks for the memories.

  • @maxr4448
    @maxr4448 Рік тому +1

    The town I grew up in, all the teenagers and 20
    year olds hung around the local Burger joint on Friday nights. One of the guys with a hotrod'65 Chevelle. He bought a new '73 Chevy Belair wagon with a 454 4-v. It was yellow. He rodded it as well. Had black stripes put down the middle of the hood and roof and tail gate. He kept the POV hub caps. Removed the 454 emblems for 400. Added a hotter cam, daul exhausts, retimed the ignition, and changed out the stock carb and intake. Car surprised many of us. He painted in script on the lower corner of the Clam shell. "Heavy Duty". He was a big guy, 300+lbs. Probably 6' or 4'. Everyone called him Heavy Duty. Or just Heavy for short. Those were the good days.
    Chevy Belair wagon with a 454-4V. He hot rodded it up as well.

  • @ClassicChrome86
    @ClassicChrome86 Рік тому +4

    My uncle used to have a '74 Kingswood. I remember riding in the back of it as a kid. I used to see these all over the place as a kid. As an adult, I don't even see them at shows which seems kind of odd to me. Thanks for posting.

    • @WhiteTrashMotorsports
      @WhiteTrashMotorsports Рік тому +1

      The reason they seem to have disappeared is unfortunately most of them were destroyed in demolition derbies

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 Рік тому +19

    Great video Adam on one of my favorite GM models! My dad had two different Clamshell wagons, a 1971 Pontiac Safari with a 400 engine and a 1973 Grand Safari with a 455, both of them company cars. He loved those Pontiac wagons and had many of them the last being a 1986 Pontiac Parisienne.

  • @tombrown1898
    @tombrown1898 Рік тому +3

    In summer, 1971, some of our cousins came for a short visit. My aunt and uncle had just gotten a Kingswood clamshell wagon. It was the biggest car anyone had ever seen! My cousin David still refers to it as "The Family Truckster."

    • @mistert7958
      @mistert7958 Рік тому +1

      They were designed to carry a 4x8 sheet of plywood inside, just like the first mini-vans were. Sometimes just one sheet, with the front seat all the way forward, though... but, still got bragging rights.

  • @christopherhylton8462
    @christopherhylton8462 Рік тому +2

    That took me back. Growing up in the 70's, the neighbors across the street from me owned one of these wagons. It was a dark green in color. I can remember me a my friends playing in the back of that thing. Gotta to remember, back then a lot of people didn't lock their cars and the neighbors didn't mind us kids playing in them.

  • @cjdesign5700
    @cjdesign5700 Рік тому +2

    @ Ironic things in this great video...I had a 72 Kingswood (lt Yellow) when I was living in Fairfax Va...AND my Dad bought a 71 Kamback Vega at Jim Mckay Chevrolet which was in Fairfax Va, and that is where your feature Wagon was sold!

  • @InternetDude
    @InternetDude Рік тому +1

    I have an AMC Eagle wagon with woodgrain, I love wagons.

  • @randyfitz8310
    @randyfitz8310 Рік тому +7

    The finest of the big six to nine passenger wagons from 1971 through 1976. I really enjoyed these though I never owned one. My uncle had a Pontiac as did my in-laws. A friend drove a carpool in either two of them (such that he always had one to drive).

  • @denniss5505
    @denniss5505 Рік тому +2

    My family had the ‘73 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser clamshell wagon, w/out wood grain. It was a big comfortable nine passenger forward facing three row seater with power everything. I remember it being a great car but the 454 engine got about 8-10MPG. We took this car throughout the states towing a Holiday Rambler travel trailer during family vacations. Great times before one needed a truck based product for towing. You’re right about the downsides of the clamshell, not only snow and rain getting in the car, but the power lift on the tailgate would often need a push to help it up as it got older.

  • @rogerchang8024
    @rogerchang8024 Рік тому +1

    My parents bought new a 1971 Kingswood wagon. As I recall, there was a GM strike early that year that delayed delivery of their vehicle. They had special ordered it... gold exterior with green interior. Boy, that was so 70s! I was 18 at the time and was able to drive it quite frequently before my Mom totaled the car in a parking garage accident some years later. Ours was the manual tailgate, however it did not have the tabs around the keyhole. There was only the keyhole. You would simply use the key to raise and lower the window, and then turn the key further to manually lower the tailgate. Also, the tailgate mechanism below the load floor rattled, and I would stuff some rags down there to quiet it down. The 8-track tape player (optional) always had problems and required my Dad to make repeated trips to the radio shop referred by the dealer to try and get it fixed. There was some water leakage around the curved side window at the rear, requiring some DIY repair with caulking. The car was otherwise very reliable, and drew alot of comments about its looks, size, and sleekness. I remember comments such as "...is that a Cadillac?" Lots of fond memories in that car, including listening to Carole King's hit "It's Too Late" while cruising around town.

  • @bobcoats2708
    @bobcoats2708 Рік тому +1

    One neighbor had a Buick clamshell wagon. We carpool kids always had fun clambering into the back and pinballing around in the massive cargo area on the way to school.
    Then, of course, we’d all jump into the back of one of the other mom’s Datsun pickup for rides home.
    Unthinkable now, but somehow we survived. Those were the days….

  • @MillerMeteor74
    @MillerMeteor74 Рік тому +2

    7:05 Back in the early to mid 80s I had a `72 Buick Skylark that had the shoulder belts stowed above the doors, and they hooked into the lap belt latch the same way shown here. In 1972 my parents bought their second new station wagon, which was a red Chrysler Town and Country 3-seater. 3 years later they bought another new Chrysler Town and Country 3-seater. That had 50/50 split from bench seat, power windows, and air conditioning. Meanwhile my uncle had a Buick Estate Wagon clamshell. But in those days the clamshell wagons were everywhere on the roads of America. I'd love to have one today. But I'd also love to have a Town & Country like the one we had back in the day.

    • @bradparris99
      @bradparris99 Рік тому +2

      Back in the mid 70s I had a friend that had a 72 Impala coupe with that lap and shoulder belt set up. I always thought it was awkward to use. I had a 1970 Buick Electra that had separate buckles for the lap and shoulder belts which was really easier to buckle up. I was that odd kid that buckled up both belts when I drove back then. Hardly anyone wore the shoulder belts.

    • @MillerMeteor74
      @MillerMeteor74 Рік тому

      @@bradparris99 I never wore the shoulder belt in that car. My parents had that car before me, and they never did either. I think I took it down and hooked it up once, and that was all.

    • @bradparris99
      @bradparris99 Рік тому +2

      ​@@MillerMeteor74Those belts were awkward and very confining and most like you tried them once and that was it.

  • @tomm7505
    @tomm7505 Рік тому

    I was a car nut as a kid and when the clamshell wagons came out in 1971 (I was 12 years old), I thought they were SOOOOO cool. Thanks for this video.😉

  • @flashg67
    @flashg67 Рік тому +3

    I had a 1973 Impala wagon from 1999-2004. It was maroon with a black interior.

  • @olddisneylandtickets
    @olddisneylandtickets Рік тому +1

    I had a 76 Buick Estate Wagon, she was well used but the full power clamshell still worked perfectly, its engineered better than I thought.

  • @stvitalkid7981
    @stvitalkid7981 Рік тому +1

    Pretty sure Shirley Partridge drove one of these on TV. At least I saw it in one episode anyway.

  • @hurstbear
    @hurstbear Рік тому +2

    When I was a kid, we had a kings wood estate however ours had the full power tailgate. It was this same color combo as well. Thanks for the memories.

  • @lanemcreynolds9894
    @lanemcreynolds9894 Рік тому +1

    Thank you , Adam this wagon has a special place in my,y heart and love of GM cars. My grandparents had one exactly like this the kingswood with the 454 he loved it and drove it fast too.. my brother and I spent many a mile riding in the back seat and rear cargo area when traveling with them. My grandfather also had a boat and he used this wagon to take us fishing too1

  • @rjbiker66
    @rjbiker66 Рік тому +1

    I am amazed no one back the thought of a lift back type door with a window that also could be opened. Like some BMW Suvs have.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 Рік тому +3

    Adam, It has taken about a thousand videos but I can finally say I have owned a car you have not - a GM 'Clamshell' Wagon. In our case it was a 1973 Caprice Estate. Good luck in your search for one. 😁🤞🤞

  • @MNBluestater
    @MNBluestater Рік тому +1

    Dad had a ‘72 Grand Safari, in “Springfield Green”-I remember that tailgate-no power and it really was a monster to lift and latch. (The rear window of course was power). No wood applique but, in true Pontiac fashion, that 8-passenger beast could move. Mom yelled at me once from the passenger seat for not slowing down for an exit ramp. Great for hauling anything including sheetrock, which fit perfectly.

  • @desertmodern7638
    @desertmodern7638 Рік тому +1

    I had both Impala and Caprice Estate versions of the clamshell, both with the power Glide-Away tailgate, and they functioned flawlessly. They were fantastic wagons.

  • @overshoe6361
    @overshoe6361 Рік тому +4

    I love these too, from a design standpoint, and would love to have one. As I l remember when they were on the road, the problems were rust in the rear quarters and tailgate well as well as failure of the glass motor, usually with the window partially open.

  • @silicon212
    @silicon212 Рік тому +3

    We had a 1972 Impala Custom coupe growing up. Now, I was only 3 years old at the time, but I can recall the night my grandparents drove it home from the Rudolph Chevrolet lot here in Phoenix. That memory is still fresh in my mind, 51 years later. It was dark blue metallic with a white roof. 350 2bbl/L65 with TH350 transmission. Edit: The 400 ... that was only in 1971. In 1972, the big block was called the 402 in order to differentiate it from the small block 400.

  • @LawrenceMarkFearon
    @LawrenceMarkFearon Рік тому +2

    My Dad bought a new '73 Impala Station Wagon. Had it for 25 years. As durable as a truck and built like it. Manual Clamshell hatch never failed but we did replace the motor. Blue on blue no woodgrain with 2bbl 350ci 250hp [advertised] engine. That really wasn't enough and the 454 would be ideal on the interstates with the weight. Tough. Tough. Tough.

  • @adamsneidelmann8976
    @adamsneidelmann8976 Рік тому +4

    The olds custom cruiser had the premier styling in the clamshells. Especially’76. Been looking for one for years. Would love to snatch one up.

  • @undergroundexplorer8378
    @undergroundexplorer8378 4 місяці тому

    Wow! Never knew that was how the tailgate on these things operated! Thanks for the video. I love these old 1970s cars!

  • @TaylorZ2
    @TaylorZ2 Рік тому +4

    That clamshell set up must've taken a lot of engineering and components to make it work! I think it's awesome.

    • @bobhenry6159
      @bobhenry6159 Рік тому

      Not really. A rack hinged at the tailgate and a pinion gear on an electric motor would do the trick.

    • @Johnnycdrums
      @Johnnycdrums Рік тому +1

      Competition is a beautiful thing.
      Imagine if the government were designing tailgates.

  • @rickyassine3074
    @rickyassine3074 Рік тому

    Good ole Jim McKay Chevrolet. Grew up down the street from it. Went to college in Fairfax. My dad retired from Chevrolet after thirty years starting in 1964. With five kids in the family he always drove a station wagon for a demo. We always fought for the rear facing seat. Some well known dealers in the Fairfax area he worked for were, Wissinger, Bob Peck, JKJ Chevrolet. Great video, thanks!

  • @stevebyrne4235
    @stevebyrne4235 Рік тому +6

    The one we drove didnt mature well as road salt played havoc with the lower mechanism, but the pre-'73 units were very attractive and the SBC 400 CI engine was a delight

  • @kcindc5539
    @kcindc5539 Рік тому +2

    My uncle bought his growing family of six a banana-yellow 1973 Impala wagon with the dual-power clamshell tailgate, folding third row seat, and 400 V-8. Even without A/C (they were from Syracuse) the sticker easily hit $5000. Big Banana was a total tank, utterly indestructible, and a ton of fun for us kids to roll around the way-back on road trips. That same week, they came to visit us in CT, and my hard drinking hard driving father commandeered Uncle’s brand-new Banana straight into Manhattan with 9 of us on board to go see the circus. The way Dad flung that beast in midtown traffic… I could see the look on my uncles face as his $5000 investment was about to meet its maker…. The car survived. Dad was never allowed to drive it again.

    • @Paul1958R
      @Paul1958R Рік тому +1

      Did he drink and drive?

    • @kcindc5539
      @kcindc5539 Рік тому +1

      @@Paul1958R people didn’t call it drinking and driving back then. In fact, such behavior went largely unacknowledged. It was a very different time indeed.

    • @Paul1958R
      @Paul1958R Рік тому

      Tell me about it - I lived 'back then'. When I was a kid an adult would use me as a prop so that when we went out and he got stopped the drink ended up under my coat. To this day it hurts.@@kcindc5539

  • @Dwayne-mb2uj
    @Dwayne-mb2uj Рік тому +1

    My Wife told me that when she was a teenager she put a Buick wagon on the curb trying to parallel park during her driving test and passed because she had 70 points.the minimum needed to pass.

  • @markaustin4370
    @markaustin4370 Рік тому +1

    We had the buick 72 version of this advertized an 8 passenger solid blue no wood

  • @sargefreedom1578
    @sargefreedom1578 Рік тому +1

    We had a 9 passenger Kingswood in the mid 70’s.
    It was a really nice car

  • @Shockedbywater
    @Shockedbywater Рік тому

    As a 18-19 year old in 1982 I owned one of these in blue. I got it well used but still very drivable. It was a beast! I took that car so deep into the woods for weekend parties but it just kept trucking. Those bumpers would clear heavy brush and small trees out of the way with ease. I can also say that the roof could hold quite a few dancing drunks. Eventually I drove it to the junkyard, broken rear leaf springs welded and patched up, entire front suspension so worn that I expected a tie rod or ball joint to break and the trans was going. But it did make the final drive on its own!

  • @mknucarman
    @mknucarman Рік тому +2

    The Kingswood estate is my favorite wagon I would love to find one

    • @edwardpate6128
      @edwardpate6128 Рік тому

      I am a Pontiac Grand Safari man myself but they are all great.

    • @MUUKOW3
      @MUUKOW3 Рік тому

      Just saw one dropped at a local shop looked like a barn find and in great shape and I believe with 454. I have to get back that way and check on it.

  • @gregoryward93
    @gregoryward93 Рік тому

    My dad had the Chevy version of a clam shell waqon as his company car. I loved it. Thanks Adam.

  • @andyk6796
    @andyk6796 Рік тому +5

    The GM clamshells were my favorite wagons growing up. My family owned a '74 Custom Cruiser with a power tailgate and 455 V8. Recently learned that the rear glass was designed to bend in order to fit into the roof when retracting.

    • @desertmodern7638
      @desertmodern7638 Рік тому +1

      The rear glass did not bend, but it did articulate downward at the top for clearance.

  • @Chitwn81
    @Chitwn81 Рік тому +3

    Dope as always Adam!!! Wagons I'd assume would have totally been a soccer mom's or family car back then but man how cool one of those behemoths would be in today's market. Buick was the last American automaker to make a wagon sort of with the Regal Sportback from a few years ago. Cadillac had the awesome CTS wagon and Dodge briefly had the awesome SRT based Magnum....which they never should have discontinued.

  • @silvermikeGA
    @silvermikeGA Рік тому +6

    The problem with the clamshell is that any dirt or damage would leave the tailgate stuck down and it was very difficult to get them unstuck! The glass also had a habit of shattering but I cannot remember the reason.

  • @robertharris7027
    @robertharris7027 Рік тому

    Never experienced a clamshell but what I saw in this video is mouthwatering. What a nice wagon...

  • @jefweb5043
    @jefweb5043 Рік тому +1

    I'm still on a Chevy Rally wheel kick from your earliest awesome video on the big blocks! Rally wheels make everything better. Great videos!

    • @jeffrobodine8579
      @jeffrobodine8579 Рік тому +1

      I recently picked up a set for my 1976 Monte Carlo.

    • @jefweb5043
      @jefweb5043 Рік тому

      @@jeffrobodine8579 That's the exact year my dad has...full restoration on it. If you've got a Monte, the rallys are the only way to go. They make them look great.

  • @philhamilton8731
    @philhamilton8731 Рік тому

    Dad bought a new '74 Impala wagon to haul me and my six siblings around. It had the third seat in the back and the second row passenger seat was split 70/30 to allow people to get back to the rearmost seat. Dad treated that thing like a pickup, and would fold all the seats down to haul all manner of things. I can still hear the sound of the manual tailgate dropping and the whine of the motor on the rear window. Dad loved to floor the accelerator to hear the secondaries kick in on the 4bbl carb. Great memories. Great car. It was 10 years old with over 100k on the odometer when they traded it in, with hardly any rust and it still ran great.

  • @gregrogers6886
    @gregrogers6886 Рік тому +1

    I had a 72 Kingswood Estate and I loved it. I bought it used and drove it for several years.

  • @tonyeverard3331
    @tonyeverard3331 Рік тому +1

    I always thought those clamshell wagons were so cool. I think the 72 version is the best looking. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ayresjim
    @ayresjim Рік тому +1

    Hi Adam. We had the 1971 version of this wagon. it was moderately optioned with AC and an AM FM radio that I think took 8 track tapes. We left the dealer listening to Paul McCartney and Wings 'Ram'. The cargo area was not carpeted, but it did have the power tail gate. It did have a 454!! This car served our family well into the 1980s despite 8 mpg!

  • @marklizza2392
    @marklizza2392 11 місяців тому

    My folks owned the 1972 Buick Estate wagon in that brownish gold color with the woody side and the clam shell back. We also had a rear facing third seat and used it! Six of us kids and mom and dad filled it up! Great fun car for our big family!!

  • @maineiacman
    @maineiacman Рік тому +1

    Demolition derbies have wiped out nearly all of these in rough or driver/survivor condition.

  • @ronaldsmith6829
    @ronaldsmith6829 Рік тому +1

    I bought one of these in the late seventies. It was very similar to the subject wagon. My car suffered another glitch for which these cars were infamous. The tailgate would drop down and stick. ie: you couldn't pull it out. It really wasn't fun getting it loose again either. My car had the small block and got good mileage. However it couldn't pull a loaded Horse Trailer so it had to go.

  • @19chucki74
    @19chucki74 Рік тому

    Out of all of these, I remember my grandpa putting all of us grandkids into the back of his 1973 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser, with the famous clamshell tailgate. It has the rear facing third row seats, and we had so much fun riding in it, back in late 70s early 80s. One of the cars of my childhood.

  • @terry3193
    @terry3193 Рік тому +1

    Fun video! I’m a 70’s wagon fanatic. Grew up around various Ford Squire wagons. My favorite wagons are 1. ‘69 Kingswood Estate w/ hideaway headlights and 454 2. 75-77 Country Squires w/460 3. ‘72 T&C w/440. All with wood grain of course. I do like the clamshells, especially the big Olds Custom Cruisers. Love the fender skirts. I also like the ‘73 Royal Monaco and ‘72 Plymouth Sport Surbuban Wagon w/hideaway headlights. Can’t find any these days. All were disposable which is sad.

  • @dsteele27
    @dsteele27 Рік тому +5

    I bought one of these new in 1972. It was a great car. The optional power tailgate did break down twice, but other than that, only normal maintenance was every required on it. My only real complaint was that if it was raining and i wanted to put something in back, things did tend to get a bit wet back there, thanks to the steep tumblehome of the rear window.

    • @dsteele27
      @dsteele27 Рік тому +2

      The seat belt buckles changed mid-'72. I bought mine in the fall of '71, actually, and it came with the older dual buckle seat and shoulder belt system.

  • @lvsqcsl
    @lvsqcsl Рік тому +12

    One thing you forgot to mention, these wagons did NOT have the same rear suspension as the sedans. They had leaf springs in the rear as opposed to coils in the sedans. While the sedans were indeed on the shorter wheelbase the wagons had considerable room because they didn't have all that suspension in back. That also enabled them to have a front-facing third-row seat. We had a 1974 Impala wagon that didn't have the wood. I remember sitting in the middle of the third-row seat and realizing the floorpan curved over the rear differential directly under me. We had to overhaul the engine and it did indeed have a 400 c.i.d smallblock. IIRC I think the small block and the big block 400 officially had different displacements. Seems like one was a 402? That was the WORST car we ever had. That rear window leaked and it would run all over the inside back of the car. The dashboard cracked. It was terrible. GREAT VIDEO!

    • @61rampy65
      @61rampy65 Рік тому +6

      Glad I read the comments first, as I was going to post about the leaf spring suspension. One other reason for the leaf springs was that these wagons were HEAVY, pretty close to 5000lb. If you ever look closely at those leaf springs, you would see that they look like they came off of a light duty truck, with something like 6 leaves.

    • @lvsqcsl
      @lvsqcsl Рік тому +3

      @@61rampy65 I don't know if it were 6 leaves, but it was a bunch!

    • @BobConnor-n2g
      @BobConnor-n2g Рік тому +5

      We had a 1974 Kingswood Estate with the clamshell and the seat belt buzzers and even as a tween I HATED IT! One cold day the buzzer went off all the time and Dad was hard of hearing so he just drove the wagon to work all the time, the buzzing the whole time. One of those leaf springs broke and he drove it to Midas to have it fixed and the broken leaf dug into and destroyed the tire on the way there. After about a year it leaked and smelled. Finally after 5 years they traded in on an Impala Sedan. No more wagons after that.

    • @lvsqcsl
      @lvsqcsl Рік тому +5

      @@BobConnor-n2gYes, and that '74 model had a seatbelt interlock that prevented the engine from starting unless the seatbelts were fastened. Don't ask me how I know that.

  • @PeterG-m6p
    @PeterG-m6p Рік тому +10

    Adam, as usual, enjoyed your presentation. Growing up in the 1970's, my parents had the Buick version. Big, brown, a 455 (I think). We nicknamed it the brown turd. My parents always had American but it was a big deal when my father finally got rid of his Electra 225 2-door and got a 300D. Then a big deal when my mother got a 1977 Seville. You are so right -- a great, great driving car. I think a definite future classic. It looks stunning. (I think "square" cars will continue to go up in value). As you also comment, sadly Gm's quality was no good. One night my mother broke down on a major freeway incline. That Seville was gone replaced by the extremely reliable 300D Turbo. Wow, did GM blow out. And I'm Saab fan . . . so don't get me started on that subject . . . . I know a long comment. But I just really enjoy your videos. I subscribe. Thank you! Peter

  • @budp9844
    @budp9844 Рік тому +4

    My memory of these was of an Olds clamshell wagon, owned by my buddy's parents. During a hockey tournament one of our hockey sticks was snapped in two by that power window/tailgate!

  • @johnh2514
    @johnh2514 Рік тому +2

    Great video! I remember in the early 80s a family friend owned a ‘72 Kingswood non-Estate in dark blue. Being a small kid, I was fascinated with the clamshell tailgate and got a chance to operate it a couple times.

  • @kengoldfine6465
    @kengoldfine6465 Рік тому

    Excellent video, Adam, as usual. We currently own a 1973 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser clamshell and use it as our daily driver summer car. At 50 years old it is very reliable and useable and we put about 5000 miles a year on it running around northern Wisconsin and Minnesota getting groceries, supplies, camping, and yes, towing. A couple other cool features about these cars: Ours is a 9 passenger model and the vehicle is so big and long that the third row seats face forward. 8 seatbelts and plenty of room even in the third row. Second, with all three rows in use, there is still quite a bit of room for groceries and luggage behind the third row. Third, with both second and third row seats folded there is room to put 4 foot by 8 foot sheets of plywood flat in the cargo area and close the rear gate. We've filled the car with lumber and soil, etc. for various projects and it takes it all without breaking a sweat. Cheers

  • @jasonhunt007
    @jasonhunt007 Рік тому

    This brings back memories, especially since this was the year and model I got my drivers license. My parents picked up the new 1972 Kingswood Estate at the dealer like the car in the video but the beige paint and it had the 350 2 bbl carb. I also have a memory of the retractable rear glass malfunctioning stuck in the up position on an out of town trip. My dad worked with the only tools he had to get the glass to finally go down. The station wagon was great on many family trips out of town where me and my brothers would sleep in the back with the seats down but the exposed hinges were uncomfortable. A great car and great memories.

  • @edjonatchick
    @edjonatchick Рік тому

    I've been waiting for the Clamshell video. Thanks for posting.

  • @philipfrancis2728
    @philipfrancis2728 Рік тому +1

    For the complex engineering, and the fact it was GM, these clamshell door gates always worked flawlessly! Nearly everyone I knew had one of these GM wagons, so I’ve ridden in at least 100 of them in grade school, high school and college. Not one complaint about their operation!

  • @volktales7005
    @volktales7005 Рік тому

    A friend's Dad had a tired old '72 Pontiac Laurentian back in the mid '80's. We spent a lot of time goofing around in that car as teens and it took all the abuse in stride. Four wheel drifts in the snow in the Canadian Tire parking lot were epic!

  • @TomSnyder-gx5ru
    @TomSnyder-gx5ru Рік тому +1

    My father bought a new '71 Chevy Caprice four door hardtop (with a 454) in the same gold color as this wagon and I remember the salesman showing my parents the clamshell wagons and my father predicted GM would have a lot of problems with them "down the road." Looking back on it they knew several friends/neighbors that had clamshells and as far as I could tell never had any problems with the clamshell tailgate and really liked them.

  • @leonardgordon1748
    @leonardgordon1748 Рік тому

    I worked at a Chevrolet dealership after I graduated High School. My boss the shop manager had a wagon that looked just like this one. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻