This symphony is written in a rather clssical way when we consider further compositions of Paul Dukas; But it is an excellent score,; with a perfect sense of architecture, an attractive harmonic and melodic sense.
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This symphony seems to be well constructed and thought out. It's very accessible and listenable and makes me want to learn more about Dukas and his music. The performance is also quite good.
This symphony belongs to a classical period of the composer; when the so-called "impressionist" revolution had not yet been adopted by him. Together with the e flat minor sonata for piano, this is a masterpiece of classical style. The music is beautiful, the construction is very firm, the harmony and modulations are inventive, the orchestration is perfect. A great classical french symphony !!!!
Gracias x la sinfonía. Hace años (30 o más) la busqué en tiendas y no hubo manera, en España no se encuentra nada más que El Aprendiz De Brujo, de este compositor. Me enamoré de esta obra en una retransmisión en RNE de Radio-Francia
Interacción perfecta, diálogos marcados prolongados y amplios, entrando en un lento estar en el tiempo hasta finalizar con fuerza y rapidez de lo vivido. Impacta la obra.
Clearly a work that shows (the begginings of both the first and last movements above all) the way to Albert Roussel, another great modern symphonist.The influence of Franck is notorious, but Dukas goes much further in harmonic modernity and originality and strenght of orchestration. A great work, even if here and there over-charged with musical information and heavy orchestration. The slow movement seems to me to be the most achieved. I am not surprised to recognize that, not withstanding the beauties of this work, of La Peri or Arianne, L' Aprenti Sorcier still is the most perfect work by Dukas. It is the only work of Dukas where ideas, form, duration and orchestration seems to be in total agreement (what french call "a trouvaille"). Anyway, that is not a reason for the almost complete neglect of this wonderful symphony, even in french concert halls!
Dukas est sans conteste meilleur orchestrateur que Franck, ce qui n'est pas difficile, mais il est futile de mettre ce fourre-tout qu'est l'innovation dans la balance. La musique, ce n'est pas cela et Dukas, quelles que soient ses qualités, n'atteint jamais la puissance expressive de Franck, ce qui a d'ailleurs valu à Franck quelques difficultés pour faire accepter ses oeuvres, notamment la symphonie jugée trop germanique après la déculottée de 1870, les Français répugnent à la puissance et s'attardent sur les formes. Des poires et des pommes.
Il y a bien sur les incontournables Débussy et Ravel, mais comment passer à côté de Dukas, Saint-Saens, Franck, Fauré, Lalo, D'indy, Satie, Chabrier. la musique française de cette époque est tellement riche.
Really ? Sounds like dancehall music brought into concert hall . This aint Franck ? I havent heard anything except all the violinists play Chausson's poeme . He wrote Symphonies . Let's go find ! I spent asemester on Prelude,Chorale et Fugue and it took 20 years after to fall inlove with the music though listening to radio like Proust fell in love with the violin Sonata in highschool !
Probably because the name itself isn't very well-known, so many people wouldn't know what to expect from his pieces in concert. Which would be totally cool with me though.
Way too many Germans take the programs nowadays. I have nothing against Brahms, Beethoven etc BUT so much gorgeous music from La France that is sadly neglected.
There are only so many compositions that: - musicians learned as students - soloists and orchestras can handle economically - draw large enough audiences - have international reputations. Sure I agree the repertoire could be more diverse. Recordings and broadcasts have helped, along with certain conductors who are committed to less familiar music.
Did he write this before or after "The Sorcerer's Apprentice"? It seems like the Symphony doesn't get a great number of performances - once in a great while it'll turn up on a program. It's very good music though!
Very enjoyable symphony. Maybe lacks a strong classical structure, but then late romantic works slanted towards that way, as orchestral colours took precedence, but a very distinctive piece and should be performed more often.
I don't usually think of Dukas as a Franckist composer, but I agree that there is a LOT of Franck in this symphony. Harmonies, melodies for sure (maybe not so much orchestration).
If I had to point out any affinities, those would not include Tchaikovsky, but rather Wagner (the orchestration, much of the harmonic language) and Prokofiev (the Classical Symphony, first and formost, but also his two most famous ballets): lots of unexpected turns, but also playing with Classicism.
@@bartjebartmans Because the appreciation of music is a very personal affair, each opinion is valid. I have been composing music since 1955 but I never wrote a symphony. soundcloud.com/stephen-jablonsky/broadway-boogie-woogie-2020-piano
This was a great Greek composer!!!! And not the only Greek composer. There are lots of others. Unfortunately they are not very popular... ☺I am proud to be Greek☺
He was not French. He was Greek. Just like many other Greek composers who were born and lived abroad because back then it was an awful period for Greece because we had war with the Turks and many people went to live abroad in order to start a career. But many of them were Greeks. It doesn't matter where they were born or lived. They all had Greek nationality. I mean, even his name speaks the truth. His name was Παύλος Δούκας !!!!!!!!! The man was GREEK! 🎶🎵🎶🎶🎵🎵
@@sleort42 It's Asimina-Mina. Σσς are all ways to write the Sigma letter: upper-case, lower-case, lower-case word-final. Η and η is Ita (upper-case, lower-case).
Heavy metal got me interested in music at a very young age, then in my tween years I started listening to classical from radio, and of course the more aggressive sounds appealed to me. All worthwhile modern music is in some way shape or form influenced by compositions from the distant past. Thankfully music is timeless 🎼 💙 ❤
This symphony is written in a rather clssical way when we consider further compositions of Paul Dukas; But it is an excellent score,; with a perfect sense of architecture, an attractive harmonic and melodic sense.
As soon as I listen to this piece, I have fallen in love with it. Thank you!
Same! Excellent piece!
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This piece has truly many amazing moments. It should be more popular for sure.
Il y en a peu, et pour cause, mais toutes les compositions de Paul Dukas sont un délice, en particulier cette belle symphonie.
Bellissimo brano di rara esecuzione (purtroppo).Grazie per avercelo fatto sentire.
Very very nice piece of music..............beautiful
This symphony seems to be well constructed and thought out. It's very accessible and listenable and makes me want to learn more about Dukas and his music. The performance is also quite good.
A marvellous symphony! Up there with the Franck and Chausson symphonies. Deserves to be played a lot more often than it is.
My thoughts, exactly.
Indeed.
Amazing !!!❣️❣️
What a powerful and beautiful symphony!!
Thank you much for scanning and animating the score. Fantastic. Adds even more to the enjoyment of this enchanting piece.
This symphony belongs to a classical period of the composer; when the so-called "impressionist" revolution had not yet been adopted by him. Together with the e flat minor sonata for piano, this is a masterpiece of classical style. The music is beautiful, the construction is very firm, the harmony and modulations are inventive, the orchestration is perfect. A great classical french symphony !!!!
What do you mean by "French"?
The man was Greek. Don't you know that?
I mean, look at his name.
He was a Greek composer.
He was Greek not French. His name was Παύλος Δούκας.
Paul Dukas was born in Paris, how does that make him Greek?
There is a hint of impressionism in the second movement.
@@mr-wx3lv He was once seen eating souvlaki and drinking ouzo on the Left Bank.
that's synphony is incredible!
Thank you for posting this. I am small familiar with the work but have not read the score before. This is a wonderful listen.
Heard this for the first time on a CD this week and fell in love with it. Bravo for the video with the full score. Must have taken ages.
Quelle musique fantastique
This is really beautiful I Googled little known Symphonies and Mr. Dukas was at the top of the list. I'm quite moved and pleasantly surprised.
Marvelous!
Very impressive, thanks for sharing 🎼 💖 👍
Thank you for posting, what an eye opener!
Magnifique ! 39 minutes 15 de pur bonheur !
Thanks for posting !
Gracias x la sinfonía. Hace años (30 o más) la busqué en tiendas y no hubo manera, en España no se encuentra nada más que El Aprendiz De Brujo, de este compositor. Me enamoré de esta obra en una retransmisión en RNE de Radio-Francia
Amazing Piece
We are in the presence of greatness..No wonder Messaien praised his Maitre.
Браво супер красивая музыка симфония шикарная талантливо написана жаль что её редко играют
Un opera interessante,ben costruita ,piacevole.
Toute la belle énergie de ce géant de la musique française, à cheval sur les siècles et les esthétiques.
Thanks for uploading!
From joy to symphonic satisfaction.
Interacción perfecta, diálogos marcados prolongados y amplios, entrando en un lento estar en el tiempo hasta finalizar con fuerza y rapidez de lo vivido. Impacta la obra.
Përfect analysis.
No la conocia, pensaba que de él, solo el Aprendiz de Brujo, ¡Compartalosla!
Clearly a work that shows (the begginings of both the first and last movements above all) the way to Albert Roussel, another great modern symphonist.The influence of Franck is notorious, but Dukas goes much further in harmonic modernity and originality and strenght of orchestration. A great work, even if here and there over-charged with musical information and heavy orchestration. The slow movement seems to me to be the most achieved. I am not surprised to recognize that, not withstanding the beauties of this work, of La Peri or Arianne, L' Aprenti Sorcier still is the most perfect work by Dukas. It is the only work of Dukas where ideas, form, duration and orchestration seems to be in total agreement (what french call "a trouvaille"). Anyway, that is not a reason for the almost complete neglect of this wonderful symphony, even in french concert halls!
Dukas est sans conteste meilleur orchestrateur que Franck, ce qui n'est pas difficile, mais il est futile de mettre ce fourre-tout qu'est l'innovation dans la balance. La musique, ce n'est pas cela et Dukas, quelles que soient ses qualités, n'atteint jamais la puissance expressive de Franck, ce qui a d'ailleurs valu à Franck quelques difficultés pour faire accepter ses oeuvres, notamment la symphonie jugée trop germanique après la déculottée de 1870, les Français répugnent à la puissance et s'attardent sur les formes. Des poires et des pommes.
At 6.27 in the first movement I am GREATLY reminded of Saint-Saëns Symphony 3!!
I love late romantic French classical music.
You mean to say that Dukas wrote a *second* work?
Indeed. And what a wonderful piece it is!
He wrote many pieces. But he was notoriously self-critical that he destroyed most of them and only a handful survive.
From what I read on Wikipedia, most of his works were not destroyed. There are still many to explore.
I was shocked to learn that George Enescu wrote something beside that Romanian Raphsody - four gorgeous Richard Strauss like symphonies!
There are about 15 works left from all he wrote and did'nt destroy. A giant piano sonata, a ballet, an opera, several piano pieces...
Une autre œuvre tristement négligée de France. Nous entendons trop souvent des Allemands décédés, tant d'autres là-bas.
bravo
Il y a bien sur les incontournables Débussy et Ravel, mais comment passer à côté de Dukas, Saint-Saens, Franck, Fauré, Lalo, D'indy, Satie, Chabrier. la musique française de cette époque est tellement riche.
So Magnard and Dukas sound a bit like Franck ? Beautiful.
Yes, Franck and some Tchaikovsky too.
Thanks for publishing, Jesus loves you so much!
Delightful.
The force is strong with the second movement.
I don't know what you mean, and I listened to it searching...
WOW!
I would love to see and hear what he considered his "worst" piece. I'm sure it wasn't!
Belleza,habilidad..... Rivaliza con Franco y chausson
魔法使いの弟子よりも交響曲がデュカスの傑作
這首曲子並非熱門曲目,但以前一直在蒐集這首曲子的CD,主要是因為第二樂章的旋律特別好聽的原因! CD版本並不多! 這版本記得以前是由DENON出品的,當然希望多出一點評價好的CD,以饗樂友!
補充: M1有聖桑的味道,而M3則有丹第影子
C'est du grand César Franck qui aurait mangé Ernest Chausson ! (et c'est un compliment)
Il y avait un peu de Saint-Saëns dans l'assiette aussi
Really ? Sounds like dancehall music brought into concert hall . This aint Franck ? I havent heard anything except all the violinists play Chausson's poeme . He wrote Symphonies . Let's go find ! I spent asemester on Prelude,Chorale et Fugue and it took 20 years after to fall inlove with the music though listening to radio like Proust fell in love with the violin Sonata in highschool !
Fantastic piece. So why isn't it in the standard repertory?
Probably because the name itself isn't very well-known, so many people wouldn't know what to expect from his pieces in concert. Which would be totally cool with me though.
Way too many Germans take the programs nowadays. I have nothing against Brahms, Beethoven etc BUT so much gorgeous music from La France that is sadly neglected.
I listened to it together with a piece of Dutilleux, who was in the room.
Why is there a 'standard repertoire' in the first place?!
There are only so many compositions that:
- musicians learned as students
- soloists and orchestras can handle economically
- draw large enough audiences
- have international reputations.
Sure I agree the repertoire could be more diverse. Recordings and broadcasts have helped, along with certain conductors who are committed to less familiar music.
I can hear the might be inspired by Cesar Franck
Did he write this before or after "The Sorcerer's Apprentice"? It seems like the Symphony doesn't get a great number of performances - once in a great while it'll turn up on a program. It's very good music though!
It is a very odd modulation the last one in first movement to c sharp minor
Nobody's perfect
I cant believe that this survived.
1:33 squeaky chair
What time signature is this ?
立派なスコア
幻想交響曲、サンサーンスのオルガン付き交響曲、フランクの交響曲よりも、こちらが好き
出来が良い
The orchestra...Quite Right..
第1楽章はスリリング
イベールの祝典序曲みたい
イベールはこれを手本にしたかな
Very enjoyable symphony. Maybe lacks a strong classical structure, but then late romantic works slanted towards that way, as orchestral colours took precedence, but a very distinctive piece and should be performed more often.
For the late romantic era it has a strong classical structure, especially movement 1.
0:24 😂
He was a precursor to John Williams! 😂
FYI John Williams cited William Walton as an important influence - shame his scores are still subject to copyright...
I hear Brahms here
Franck
It is not franckist. I do not think so. There is no cyclic theme, and the modulation handling is very different from Franck's manner.
I don't usually think of Dukas as a Franckist composer, but I agree that there is a LOT of Franck in this symphony. Harmonies, melodies for sure (maybe not so much orchestration).
And also a little bit of Bruckner?? That came as a surprise!
And of course a healthy dash of the Chausson Symphony in B-flat, but that's a pretty Franckian piece itself...
@@gerardbegni2806 Regardless, it sounds like Franck.
II mov is Glazunov- and Kalinnikov-like
Kinda like Tchaikovsky light.
If I had to point out any affinities, those would not include Tchaikovsky, but rather Wagner (the orchestration, much of the harmonic language) and Prokofiev (the Classical Symphony, first and formost, but also his two most famous ballets): lots of unexpected turns, but also playing with Classicism.
Debussy was right--this isn't French enough. Now go listen to his ballet La Peri. That's French!
"Not French enough...." what a crock. It is a Symphony, Period. French or not French, who cares.
@@bartjebartmans Not his best work. Competent, but not inspired.
@@stephenjablonsky1941 50 people listen to a work. 50 different "opinions". I could also ask you when it was the last time you wrote a Symphony.
@@bartjebartmans Because the appreciation of music is a very personal affair, each opinion is valid. I have been composing music since 1955 but I never wrote a symphony. soundcloud.com/stephen-jablonsky/broadway-boogie-woogie-2020-piano
This was a great Greek composer!!!! And not the only Greek composer. There are lots of others. Unfortunately they are not very popular...
☺I am proud to be Greek☺
... he was french ...
He was not French. He was Greek. Just like many other Greek composers who were born and lived abroad because back then it was an awful period for Greece because we had war with the Turks and many people went to live abroad in order to start a career. But many of them were Greeks. It doesn't matter where they were born or lived.
They all had Greek nationality.
I mean, even his name speaks the truth. His name was Παύλος Δούκας !!!!!!!!!
The man was GREEK!
🎶🎵🎶🎶🎵🎵
He was from a Jewish family, but I found no evidence of Greek origins.
He was born in Paris, he lived in Paris, he died in Paris. Where can you find Greekness in that.
Paul Dukas was 100% French. Aqnuiva Miva is not correct.
@@sleort42 It's Asimina-Mina. Σσς are all ways to write the Sigma letter: upper-case, lower-case, lower-case word-final. Η and η is Ita (upper-case, lower-case).
Too agressive music !
Too aggressive comment!
Heavy metal got me interested in music at a very young age, then in my tween years I started listening to classical from radio, and of course the more aggressive sounds appealed to me. All worthwhile modern music is in some way shape or form influenced by compositions from the distant past. Thankfully music is timeless 🎼 💙 ❤