Yeah, it's about the same overall loudness as the OEM one with the baffle in but I think it sounds a bit tougher. You're right, baffle out is a much different sound and I'm told taking the flute out is another level. I'm will try that in a follow up video in the near future.
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I know your channel isn't big at the moment and perhaps that's not even a goal (I would hardly blame you for wanting to keep things small and more personal) but this is an excellent video. The table of contents are handy and save us from playing with the scroll bar in hopes of finding that one elusive moment where you talk about the exhaust hanger bolt size or what have you. For the record, I watched the whole video from end to end. Also you gave great details on the installation going step by step, even weighing components, and highlighting the differences. And last but not least you have a pleasant voice and articulate vocabulary that appeals to those of us who are above the mouth-breathing, roid raging, RAWR videos seemingly made by those with the maturity of a 12 year old that seem to predominate motorcycle content on youtube.
Just bought a 2020 sv 2 weeks ago and love it . I just installed the same slip on tonight but first had to grind off a ring spot welded in three places that was on the end of the factory header before it would fit . The ring wouldn't allow the slip on to seat fully and you could not install the footpeg bolt . In your excellent video l can see no ring welded on the end of your header pipe allowing you easy installation. Just an fyi for those with a 2020 sv , l used an air grinder that l already owned otherwise it would have been a real pain in the butt , l also had to grind the spot welds down flat so the slip on could slide in place fully.
I love the detail and explanation put into this video. Thank you. Although I can’t believe that exhaust was nearly 600 dollars and still sounds terrible. Even for weight that’s $100 per pound subtracted. Madness
Awesome video with so much detail and sound clips. Sucks though that the sound note didn't change too much for that price tag on the Scorpion. Anyways great work you have really helped me narrow down my exhaust choices for the bike
Thanks for the video. I just installed the titanium version of this exhaust on my 2017 SV650 - flute in, baffle out. Sounds really good. I did a before and after test drive. I noticed that the bike feel less restricted, more eager and energetic in first and second gear. It was a pleasant surprise.
Yes and yes. Also, for quite a few months I was also considering pipes from Two Brothers and Yoshimura. However, you're detailed video pushed me towards the Scorpion. Thanks again!
I just bought a 2018 SV650, brand new... $5800 out the door. I put down $2k, financing the rest. Before I put a $500 muffler on, and then possibly a $450 seat...I'm gonna take that $1000 and put it towards the bike. Then only $2800 to go. #newrider so, I'm gonna ride it stock for a while, then get cute after I'm comfy. Nice video tho !
When I had my scorpion first installed, it smelled like burning candles. Apparently this was normal. I recommend putting some exhaust paste on it to prevent possible leaks as mine had some at the beginning.
Yeah, it's normal for stuff to burn off new exhausts the first few times they get hot. Ours smoked a little at first too. So did the SC Project exhaust I put on the XSR900.
One of the few good videos out there on an exhaust. I have the same bike and hope to do a similar video with a Yoshimura Street Alpha I just purchased.
excellent video, thanks, subbed. sounds better without the baffle, with baffles installed sounds not much different than stock, but in the real world I know that may be different.
NIcely done. I was looking for an aftermarket can that would look better than the OEM but wouldn't be too much louder. This fits the bill and looks to be a quality unit too. Might have to invest in a spring tool though... And I can always take the baffle(s) out when I want to be a hooligan :-)
Just the stock ECU so far. Running it with the flute and baffle installed I'm not seeing any obvious signs of the air-to-fuel ratio being off in terms of throttle response or exhaust smell. Getting it dyno'd and having the air/fuel ratio measured for the various flute and baffle combinations might make for an interesting UA-cam video though...
Hey man, nice video! I love that evotech mount but can't find it on their website. Where did you find it? edit: fixed the comment after I read that it's your wife's bike :D
With the flute installed I didn't notice any impact to throttle response having the dB killer baffle in or out. It's still got that smooth SV650 V-twin goodness. I haven't tried removing the flute to see what happens, but I'll try that this summer and put up a video about it.
@@RideLikeJehu A buddy of mine who had an SV said everyone he heard of who put on an aftermarket exhaust reported a pretty significant drop in fuel mileage. Did you notice that?
We haven't noticed a decrease in fuel mileage with our Scorpion slip-on using the baffle. On my XSR900 with a full system exhaust and flash tune the mileage decreased significantly.
Youve got a new subscriber. Im not a new rider or new to my SV but find it interesting following bloggers with the same bike as me. You might want to join the Facebook group SV650 Owners and the forum page www.svriders.com if you havent already
It quiet smaller when compare to other 650-700 cc section bike since it's V-twin engine so the style of body will be slimmer than normal in-line engine.Maybe Yamaha FZ-07 suit you well than SV650 but anyway you should test both of them first. The power isn't that different for middle class bike if you not really concern about top speed but just using for a daily life, oh and also SV650 is easy to ride for new rider with it assist options.
As a sometimes cager, all the time I don't hear the loud bikes till they are next to me. And the loud sound scares the shit out of me. All my bikes are extra quiet
In my experience it depends on what you are trying to do. If you plan to re-tune the fuel injection system to take advantage of a higher flowing system you can make gains. I did that with my XSR900. If you put a higher flowing system on without tuning to go with it you will most likely make losses, which is what I saw on the dyno before re-tuning the XSR. If all you want is to lose some weight and improve the look and sound, then a system like the Scorpion with all the internal doohickeys does a good job matching the flow characteristics of the stock system. In that case re-tuning is not necessary. No power gains but no losses either.
I like the SV650 sound personally, to me it's got a classy understated toughness to it. But you are right, some of the FZ-07s I've ridden with at the Snake sounded a lot more menacing. One guy in particular last weekend had me doing a double take when I realized he was on an FZ-07, whatever exhaust he put on that thing sounded amazing.
BigBitesR rite the crossplane cranked parallel twin is just marketing jargon for something a v twin already has. This is just a quiet slip on. There’s plenty of vids of sv650s that’ll challenge any mt07.
it looks nice. Heres mine Even with the baffle out yourssounds quiet so I wouldnt worry too much. Mine actually growls on decel and screams on accel and you probably dont want to be behind me when I launch. s14.postimg.org/4zj5l0f8x/sv650_25_new_muffler.jpg s14.postimg.org/t4jv291z5/sv650_26_new_muffler.jpg This is what she sounds like when I'm riding her hard chirb.it/hGLyLx
Seriously? Almost 12 minutes to explain how to fit a slip on silencer? Terms like 'exhaust system' give you an idea of why this guy takes 12 minutes to fit a slip on silencer. It isn't a system, it is a silencer. That isn't a 'flute' or a 'unit' it is simply a baffle. Give it a rest mate.
5 years on and this is still providing value - very comprehensive and clear coverage of all the things I needed to know - cheers chap!
Excellent video, really professional. You explain everything clearly witch is great for a new SV650 owner like myself, great job!
Thanks!
Hi, I have a GPR exhaust slip on exhaust which is quite good also in terms of power & weight reduction
That's how a video is supposed to be! Excellent job.
Without doubt, one of the best motorcycle (support) videos I've seen. Well done. 👍
I'd have to say I didn't notice much difference between the OEM and the Scorpion until you took the baffle out.
Yeah, it's about the same overall loudness as the OEM one with the baffle in but I think it sounds a bit tougher. You're right, baffle out is a much different sound and I'm told taking the flute out is another level. I'm will try that in a follow up video in the near future.
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Man the sound is so much better with the baffle removed :D
I know your channel isn't big at the moment and perhaps that's not even a goal (I would hardly blame you for wanting to keep things small and more personal) but this is an excellent video.
The table of contents are handy and save us from playing with the scroll bar in hopes of finding that one elusive moment where you talk about the exhaust hanger bolt size or what have you. For the record, I watched the whole video from end to end.
Also you gave great details on the installation going step by step, even weighing components, and highlighting the differences. And last but not least you have a pleasant voice and articulate vocabulary that appeals to those of us who are above the mouth-breathing, roid raging, RAWR videos seemingly made by those with the maturity of a 12 year old that seem to predominate motorcycle content on youtube.
Gosh... thanks!
I see a table of contents, I upvote.
Just bought a 2020 sv 2 weeks ago and love it . I just installed the same slip on tonight but first had to grind off a ring spot welded in three places that was on the end of the factory header before it would fit . The ring wouldn't allow the slip on to seat fully and you could not install the footpeg bolt . In your excellent video l can see no ring welded on the end of your header pipe allowing you easy installation. Just an fyi for those with a 2020 sv , l used an air grinder that l already owned otherwise it would have been a real pain in the butt , l also had to grind the spot welds down flat so the slip on could slide in place fully.
I just did one also on a 2020 but I had no issues
I own 2017 model and guys I have question, I just wanna change my muffler for better sound, which brand u recommend?
Great video. Every exhaust video should be filmed like this.
I love the detail and explanation put into this video. Thank you. Although I can’t believe that exhaust was nearly 600 dollars and still sounds terrible. Even for weight that’s $100 per pound subtracted.
Madness
Good quality Video. The SV is one of the most reliable, Bullet proof Bikes ever made by Suzuki 👍🇯🇵
Well done with the table of contents. I ended up watching the whole thing but that sure would save me time if I had to re-watch parts of it.
Awesome video with so much detail and sound clips. Sucks though that the sound note didn't change too much for that price tag on the Scorpion. Anyways great work you have really helped me narrow down my exhaust choices for the bike
5 stars Review. I appreciated the attention to details explanation. You deserved more subscriptions
Thanks!
Well done video and very helpful. I think I've found the exhaust I was looking for....not too loud.
Huge improvement on the looks for sure!
Thanks for the video. I just installed the titanium version of this exhaust on my 2017 SV650 - flute in, baffle out. Sounds really good. I did a before and after test drive. I noticed that the bike feel less restricted, more eager and energetic in first and second gear. It was a pleasant surprise.
It's a tasteful upgrade isn't it? Without the baffle it's louder, but still sounds refined and not obnoxious. It looks a lot better too doesn't it?
Yes and yes. Also, for quite a few months I was also considering pipes from Two Brothers and Yoshimura. However, you're detailed video pushed me towards the Scorpion. Thanks again!
Excellent video, I like it with the Scorpion exhaust baffles removed.
Me too, but don't tell the wife ;)
Db killer out is definitely the way to go! Man, autocorrect makes me look plumb stupid.
Anyway, agree with others here: this video is excellent.
Sound after removed was way much better
What an lovely detailed video!
Beautiful video production to the details . Thank you !
I just bought a 2018 SV650, brand new... $5800 out the door. I put down $2k, financing the rest. Before I put a $500 muffler on, and then possibly a $450 seat...I'm gonna take that $1000 and put it towards the bike. Then only $2800 to go. #newrider so, I'm gonna ride it stock for a while, then get cute after I'm comfy. Nice video tho !
Very informative. I’m loving this bike.
When I had my scorpion first installed, it smelled like burning candles. Apparently this was normal. I recommend putting some exhaust paste on it to prevent possible leaks as mine had some at the beginning.
Yeah, it's normal for stuff to burn off new exhausts the first few times they get hot. Ours smoked a little at first too. So did the SC Project exhaust I put on the XSR900.
Great video! Looking at getting an SV once I've done my tests. Taper looks really nice. Good explanation and clear video :)
Good choice, great bike. Good luck!
Great video...super professional and really helpful for someone who wants to tackle this.
scorpion sounds the best for sure
This video is pure quality
A very well presented and informative video, well done and thank you
nice video, detail, clear, good comparison
What a beauty! Love all the svs
My heart screams :take off that bloody mid pip silencer!"
Good guy +Ride Like Jehu timecodes the actual point of interest at the beginning of the video.. Thank you good sire! :)
One of the few good videos out there on an exhaust. I have the same bike and hope to do a similar video with a Yoshimura Street Alpha I just purchased.
UNBAFFLED FOR SURE MORE BASE THAN STOCK!! looks 100x better too !! NOT to mention much lighter and less bulky too :)
Great install video 👍 but I'm leaning towards the Leo Vincé dual or the Yoshimura Alpha shorty exhaust.
excellent video, thanks, subbed. sounds better without the baffle, with baffles installed sounds not much different than stock, but in the real world I know that may be different.
Impressively detailed tech information !
Great video , very helpful , I e just bought a sv650 and plan on getting this exhaust. Will removing baffle harm the engine? Or should I leave it in
bit of an old video but - i have a 2024 model will this still be a good exhaust and relevant fitting instruction?
NIcely done.
I was looking for an aftermarket can that would look better than the OEM but wouldn't be too much louder.
This fits the bill and looks to be a quality unit too.
Might have to invest in a spring tool though...
And I can always take the baffle(s) out when I want to be a hooligan :-)
Did you remove the logo sticker on the Scorpion?
Great video, answers all my questions. Except one. What does the stock muffler look like without the heat shield?
Dude, your how-to videos are excellent and supper easy to follow... Plus you have a very soothing voice 😂 Rock on man! 🤙
Thanks!
Slick vid Bro, excellent.
Excellent comparison....Great job...
Try a Shorai lithium battery next! Have an Akra and Shorai on my DL650!
I really like how the original exhaust sound but you are right that is a little oversized and weights too much.
Great professional video. Is the new exhaust supposed to sound as similar to the stock? I was hoping for a rasp. Good weight saving
Those bikes really sound nice, well done Mate !
Great video, very informative.
I agree both baffles installed sound best. Sharp looking bike ! Nice work on the video also.
nice video..did it require tuning?
Brilliant video! many thanks! very detailed with exactly what i needed to know! appreciate it..
Thanks for watching!
Hi, nice video, did your performance on the bike increase ?? Thanks for the info.
Thanks! We didn't notice any change to the performance good or bad. With the baffle and/or flute removed and an ECU flash tune then maybe?
Yeah, that might help
That "cat" in the end can will lose you some power though!
I agree with your wife!
Great video on every level. Did you have to do any additional tuning or re-flashing of the ECU to maximize the performance of the new pipe?
Just the stock ECU so far. Running it with the flute and baffle installed I'm not seeing any obvious signs of the air-to-fuel ratio being off in terms of throttle response or exhaust smell. Getting it dyno'd and having the air/fuel ratio measured for the various flute and baffle combinations might make for an interesting UA-cam video though...
Thanks.
Baffle removed sound good
Nicely done sir!
Can you tell me what you did to lower the bike?? Thanks.
Great video, thanks man.
Do you need to tune the bike with the baffle removed?
How do you guys like the setup 1 year later?
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you
Hey man, nice video! I love that evotech mount but can't find it on their website. Where did you find it? edit: fixed the comment after I read that it's your wife's bike :D
Very useful, thanks !
Do you have to do any mapping of you leave the baffle out
Thanks for sharing👍
I got my sv in march. A2020
Hey, where did you buy the Evotech bracket? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
Got it from the Evotech Performance website, but I don't see it there anymore. It looks like they may have stopped selling it :(
the best exhaust for sv 650 is the Miirv one
Great review!
Is this with the midpipe baffle installed?
Does the Scorpion have any adverse effects on the bike? I really enjoy the smooth throttle / fuelling and wouldn't want to risk loosing that.
With the flute installed I didn't notice any impact to throttle response having the dB killer baffle in or out. It's still got that smooth SV650 V-twin goodness. I haven't tried removing the flute to see what happens, but I'll try that this summer and put up a video about it.
Thanks for letting me know. I look forward to seeing the video.
Definitely sounds better with the baffles removed ... still pretty mild.
I think so too
@@RideLikeJehu A buddy of mine who had an SV said everyone he heard of who put on an aftermarket exhaust reported a pretty significant drop in fuel mileage. Did you notice that?
We haven't noticed a decrease in fuel mileage with our Scorpion slip-on using the baffle. On my XSR900 with a full system exhaust and flash tune the mileage decreased significantly.
Yo, Drive Like Jehu. Nice.
Top..thx for the video...
Who makes the footpeg delete bracket? Does the stock can contain the Cat?
I guess I'll just watch the video about the footpeg removal ;)
The footpeg delete bracket is from Evotech and the stock can does not contain the catalytic converter.
Youve got a new subscriber. Im not a new rider or new to my SV but find it interesting following bloggers with the same bike as me. You might want to join the Facebook group SV650 Owners and the forum page www.svriders.com if you havent already
The quantity of subscribers may be low, but it's quality that matters.
Doesn't it have the logotype?
Yeah, it came with a logo sticker on the muffler but I removed it before filming.
Guys, this bike ok for 193sm guy?)
It quiet smaller when compare to other 650-700 cc section bike since it's V-twin engine so the style of body will be slimmer than normal in-line engine.Maybe Yamaha FZ-07 suit you well than SV650 but anyway you should test both of them first. The power isn't that different for middle class bike if you not really concern about top speed but just using for a daily life, oh and also SV650 is easy to ride for new rider with it assist options.
@@Km-III Thx dude! The main thing i look on sv650 coz hes moar friendly for newbie) not sure MasterTorque 07 can be good for new rider =)
ECE aproved?
You can download a copy of the EC approval certificate from Scorpion's website, but here in California it is frowned upon nonetheless :)
That moment when the speedometer accuses you of being a white male.
Haha! It was all "Are you kidding me?!"
Nice pipe though
95% of us would disagree with your wife’s choice. Oh wait, 95% of us are men. Now it all makes sense 😅.
You want to be heard!! In my opinion I louder bike is a safer bike.. when drivers hear you they see you rip that baffle out that pipe
As a sometimes cager, all the time I don't hear the loud bikes till they are next to me. And the loud sound scares the shit out of me. All my bikes are extra quiet
I see no performance gain with all the internal blockage. People who believe back pressure is a good thing are just repeating bad information.
In my experience it depends on what you are trying to do. If you plan to re-tune the fuel injection system to take advantage of a higher flowing system you can make gains. I did that with my XSR900. If you put a higher flowing system on without tuning to go with it you will most likely make losses, which is what I saw on the dyno before re-tuning the XSR. If all you want is to lose some weight and improve the look and sound, then a system like the Scorpion with all the internal doohickeys does a good job matching the flow characteristics of the stock system. In that case re-tuning is not necessary. No power gains but no losses either.
Oh Suzuki... I've heard Yamaha's MT-07 sound way more menacing. As a Vtwin, this suzuki is sounding pretty tame :(
I like the SV650 sound personally, to me it's got a classy understated toughness to it. But you are right, some of the FZ-07s I've ridden with at the Snake sounded a lot more menacing. One guy in particular last weekend had me doing a double take when I realized he was on an FZ-07, whatever exhaust he put on that thing sounded amazing.
iGhost Yeah that Cross Plane firing order does it for me on the MT. Still that SV lopey sound is appealing....
BigBitesR rite the crossplane cranked parallel twin is just marketing jargon for something a v twin already has. This is just a quiet slip on. There’s plenty of vids of sv650s that’ll challenge any mt07.
''She wanted something dark in color and small in size''
Said no woman ever
no offense, but you sound like Toby Flenderson.
Hahaha!
If u want a good sounding bike just get a 4cyl engine bike .
it looks nice. Heres mine Even with the baffle out yourssounds quiet so I wouldnt worry too much. Mine actually growls on decel and screams on accel and you probably dont want to be behind me when I launch.
s14.postimg.org/4zj5l0f8x/sv650_25_new_muffler.jpg
s14.postimg.org/t4jv291z5/sv650_26_new_muffler.jpg
This is what she sounds like when I'm riding her hard chirb.it/hGLyLx
Looks great!
Gross, he uses the cushion grip snap on's! Dislike :D
Haha! They were a gift!
Seriously? Almost 12 minutes to explain how to fit a slip on silencer? Terms like 'exhaust system' give you an idea of why this guy takes 12 minutes to fit a slip on silencer. It isn't a system, it is a silencer. That isn't a 'flute' or a 'unit' it is simply a baffle. Give it a rest mate.
great review!
Thank you, great video.