How To Add An External Speaker Jack To a Combo Amp

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  • @marsmediapro
    @marsmediapro 2 дні тому

    Great success! I did the same thing on my 1st Gorilla GG-25 back in the 1980s. But, after I discovered that it made a great pre-amp for my Silvertone 1480 amp, I made a "head" cabinet for the Gorilla, and merely added a speaker output jack on the back of the chassis. I also added a footswitch jack to engage the "tube-stack" feature. And later, LOL, I was given a 2nd GG25 chassis which became my 2nd Gorilla head. I made a stereo cab so that the Gorillas could sit side-by-side. And now, I have a NOS Gorilla GB30 bass chassis which needs a cabinet made for it. Thanks for sharing! I am really liking your channel!

  • @wodenoftheangles3339
    @wodenoftheangles3339 4 роки тому +3

    This was great - thanks for sharing. I wanna try this with some old Marshall combos I have laying about..

  • @voornaam3191
    @voornaam3191 3 роки тому +1

    Good idea. Got some 15W amps, that are pretty different. My Samick has reverb. My Behringer has those setting switches. My RockTile has a speaker that loves distorting. And my large Solton speaker is a nice 1980 speaker. Making combinations is fun. Simple connectors can do the job, but adding audio connectors (and audio cable plugs) enables you to plug in the speaker you want.

  • @gprice1978
    @gprice1978 3 роки тому +3

    This is just what I've been looking for for my mini amps!

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      @nelsonmatias349 3 роки тому

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  • @nilesludwig7148
    @nilesludwig7148 2 роки тому +1

    Cool video, I'm gonna try this with a Fender champion into an old fender bandmaster cab front he 60s in a few months.

  • @TheGorillafoot
    @TheGorillafoot 2 роки тому +1

    How do you know what size resistor to use? Good video btw.

  • @ProductionsNate
    @ProductionsNate Рік тому +1

    This was very helpful. Thank you!

  • @Danguardace17
    @Danguardace17 2 роки тому

    Awesome Video, quick question can I utilise both my Combos original speaker and plug it in to a 2x12 so in effect having a 3x12?
    I have a 50watt amp where the built in speaker is 16omh and my 2x12 cab is 8omh

  • @robsmith204
    @robsmith204 2 роки тому +1

    Dave, thank you.
    This is exactly what I want to do with my VOX AD30 VT. Question: This is a guitar amp but I want to try using it with my bass guitar. I wish to build a cab for a 15 inch woofer and use my Vox to drive it. Since I can’t play both guitars at the same time I thought why have two amps? So is this a good idea or bad? Will my vox happily act as a guitar and a bass amp as long as I use appropriate speakers or do I need a bass amp designed to drive a woofer?
    Again, thanks for your videos, I am learning lots. 👍

    • @marsmediapro
      @marsmediapro 2 дні тому

      I know my reply maybe too late for you, but! I have used guitar amps to power bass guitar speakers, and the results have been very good. I hope that you learned this as well!

  • @hyunckel001able
    @hyunckel001able Рік тому +1

    Nice. Thanks for sharing.

  • @markquiroz3460
    @markquiroz3460 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Dave, Awesome Video and delivery. Hey, can you let me know are the added Part#'s to help me modify one of my small practice amps? It would actually by nice to have the Amp Speaker be Live, along with the External Spkr so that I can begin using the external one as a Monitoring speaker during my live performances! Thanks Again!

  • @CalitranoN
    @CalitranoN 4 роки тому +1

    LOVE IT , but i'm interested in adding speakers to a a 2 x 12 like to add 2 more in a 2nd cab to make a total of 4 speakers, would that work?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  4 роки тому +1

      CalitranoN it will work only if your output is set up to take more speakers. Whenever you add speakers, you’re changing the impedance. If you have two speakers now and they equal 8 ohms, and you add two more speakers that are 8 ohms, you’re lowering the overall impedance to 4 ohms of the speakers are in parallel. That’s not a good thing, especially if your amp is a tube amp. I would advise against doing the mod in that fashion if you’re not sure how your amp is set up.
      What kind of amp do you have?

  • @schipbreukeling3
    @schipbreukeling3 4 роки тому +1

    Nice job Dave, I have the same Behringer amp coming with the same buzz and hum noise . Any idea to stop the buzz and hum noise?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  4 роки тому +2

      Robbert Johan Smidt without having it on the bench, I would only suggest trying to change out the filter caps. That’s was the problem I had on another Behringer amp I had. Good luck!

    • @schipbreukeling3
      @schipbreukeling3 4 роки тому +1

      @@davetriestofixstuff4744 This helps Dave now I know where to look for, tanks a lot.

  • @p.s8950
    @p.s8950 3 роки тому

    I'm dubious about the no load protector resistor ? I had a Traynor BaseMaster 50 watt tube head, I used for many years in a band as a lead guitar amp. We constantly would leave equipment on and unplugged from home made speaker cabs, of which we knew nothing about various ohms, and go for beers ( we didn't know any better) but... it work flawlessly for 30+ years. Never had an issues or changed any tubes, ever. Hmmm...

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому

      That’s a great point. I have aTraynor Bassmaster 50 myself (to be featured in an upcoming video), and those are in push pull configuration. Theoretically, you can leave those on with no load and nothing will happen as long as no signal is being passed. The same can’t be said for a single ended amps though.
      I’ll be sure to go into that a bit more in the upcoming video.

  • @jaymurray1112
    @jaymurray1112 Рік тому

    Dave, is the resistor connected in parallel and always in the circuit when the external cable is plugged in regardless of whether or not a speaker is at the end of the cable? Meaning the resistor will alway be in the circuit when the external cable is plugged in - with or without speaker on other end. Which lowers the impedance and diverts amperage from the speaker?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  Рік тому +2

      Yes, the resistor is in parallel with whatever speaker is hooked up. But the resistor’s effect on the impedance is nominal. A 220 ohm resistor in parallel with an 8 ohm speaker only lowers the overall impedance to around 7.72 ohms. It won’t have a negative effect on the OT or power tubes if that’s what you’re running.

  • @GabrielSkolderblad
    @GabrielSkolderblad 3 місяці тому

    My Catalyst 60w have a 4 ohm speaker. Will a 10 Ohm resistor be good for this? I'm gonna make a head out of my combo amp so I will connect it to a cabinet. 200 ohm resistor seems a lot compared to the speaker that is 4 ohm that will be removed..

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 місяці тому +2

      I'm not familiar with the Catalyst amp line beyond it being solid state, so the impedance shouldn't matter that much. The biggest reason I suggest using a resistor is if someone uses this mod on an amp with power tubes. And in that case, a 200 to 300ohm resistor is what you would want. The output transformer is reflective, meaning whatever the impedance is on the speaker side gets stepped up by the same ratio on the tube side.
      For example, if the ratio on an output transformer is 5K ohms to 8 ohms, that means if you plug an 8-ohm speaker into it, the reflected impedance for the tubes is 5k ohms. But if you dropped the speaker down to a 4ohm speaker, the reflected impedance on the tubes would only be 2.5k ohms, which would cause them to dissipate far too much wattage and could greatly reduce the life of the tubes or even burn out your output transformer. So, in this example, if you have a 200ohm resistor in place of an 8-ohm speaker, the reflected impedance on tubes is going to be 125k ohms, meaning the tubes will be dissipating almost no wattage.
      All that said, the resistor is just an extra measure of protection in case no speaker is plugged in, and the amp is turned on and used. But I think you could leave it off in your case and it wouldn't matter.

  • @randyrecato4688
    @randyrecato4688 3 роки тому

    Good job sir Dave 🙂 can i do this in my marshall mg10cd? Same on your wiring and resistor? Do you think Can work this on my 2x12 speaker on my fender copy

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому

      Yes, it should work fine as long the speaker impedance matches the amp.

    • @randyrecato4688
      @randyrecato4688 3 роки тому

      @@davetriestofixstuff4744 thank you very much for the response 🙂

  • @Greg_TH
    @Greg_TH 3 роки тому

    Hey Dave. Nice job there. Is it possible to use my Fender mustang's GT100 celestion speaker (4ohm) as cabinet and connect it with a tube head?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому

      As long as the impedance for the head is 4 ohms, that's fine. In fact, people do that kind of thing all the time. But if the impedance for the head is higher, don't do it. You could blow your OT, or your tubes, diodes, etc...

  • @j-man9457
    @j-man9457 2 роки тому +1

    Great video man! Thanks!

  • @danielgriffith3633
    @danielgriffith3633 4 роки тому

    Dude- no idea you had a channel. Dan, Sid Vegas. Turning a fend champ 30dsp combo into a head, saw guys do it on here, it will run a 4x12..insane, i already tried it. B lookin forward to ur vids

  • @Texas059
    @Texas059 4 місяці тому

    I have a question can you use PA speakers, external cab for electric guitar or acoustic?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  4 місяці тому +2

      You can use pretty much any modern style speakers provided they have an impedance that matches the output of your amp.
      But I can’t comment on the tone of those speaker as they weren’t made for guitar.
      PA speakers may be decent for acoustic though, since that’s voiced differently than an electric.
      Good luck!

  • @fernskunk
    @fernskunk Рік тому

    question! if you add the speaker input on the amp does the sound only play on the cab or both ?

  • @dietcoke8114
    @dietcoke8114 2 роки тому

    can i do this ?but instead of speaker out, i want it to connect to the mixer. i always want to have a port/jack to connect from my guitar amplifier to my main mixer of my sound system.

  • @MS-1
    @MS-1 4 роки тому +1

    This method looks like it would work to mod my solid state fender amp with an output jack for recording into a daw. (Am I correct or just for adding an external speaker)?
    The speaker load is 8 ohms.

    • @brodie65708
      @brodie65708 4 роки тому +1

      This is exactly perfect for DAWs.
      Think less "EXTERNAL SPEAKER JACK" and more "AMP SILENCER/ LINE-OUT TO NEW SOURCE" jack.
      ...Or as just a "BYPASS/OUT" jack.
      It kills the combo's speaker while automatically redirecting into a hookup signal source link (LINE-OUT) when plugged in so you're getting only what you want through and bypassing what you don't while redirecting as a hookup for live cabs or software recording using headphones or monitors or ran into a combo... which you can then mic if ya want.

    • @g.sferrazza10-13
      @g.sferrazza10-13 4 роки тому

      @@brodie65708 wait isn't that a headphone output, basically?

    • @metalfuryskulls
      @metalfuryskulls 3 роки тому

      @@brodie65708 Would be interesting to add a 'line in' too back to the original.
      Thinking about options for running line out to a PA whilst using the Combo speaker (to save micing up live). The JDX48 works between a Amp head and Speaker, so guess something could be put together like this using your speaker jack idea.

  • @larrymchaney4792
    @larrymchaney4792 4 роки тому

    Pretty confident on soldering those speaker wires without protection of the cone....lol. I would have dripped solder through the cone...

  • @ianrandant1618
    @ianrandant1618 4 роки тому

    Awesome video man. Very helpful.
    I have a Peavey Envoy 110 that I would like to add an extension speaker jack so that I can plug into the Power in on my Nashville 400, so that I have the modern features of the Peavey Envoy with TransTube, but the power and volume of the Nashville 400. Would that be safe?

    • @ianrandant1618
      @ianrandant1618 4 роки тому

      Both are solid state

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  4 роки тому

      ian Randant hi. I’m not thinking that this type of mod would work for that.
      Normally, a power in jack on an amp is allowing another pre-amp signal to be directly connect to the power amp of the amplifier. But the signal coming out of a jack with this type of mod is a fully amplified signal, not a pre-amp signal. It would completely overload your Nashville, not to mention possibly screw up your Envoy due to the impedance mismatch.
      Sorry, but I wouldn’t suggest doing it. Thanks for watching though!

    • @ianrandant1618
      @ianrandant1618 4 роки тому

      Dave Tries To Fix Stuff
      So I should look into having a preamp out installed?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  4 роки тому

      ian Randant which year/model is your Envoy? Doesn’t it have a headphone out or a direct out already?

    • @ianrandant1618
      @ianrandant1618 4 роки тому

      Dave Tries To Fix Stuff It’s the newer model. It does have headphone out and simulated speaker direct output.

  • @templarioaph
    @templarioaph 3 роки тому

    Can I use this method if I intend to grab a small amp and an old home theater speaker, some wood boxes and make it all into one bigger guitar amp with 2 speakers?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому

      As long as the impedance of the speakers matches the output of the amp, it should work fine. Good luck!

  • @Aokitadamitsu
    @Aokitadamitsu 3 роки тому

    ok so when you have an external cab plugged in it will use the external cab, but if you unplugged the cable at the CAB side. because you have resistor in place it will not burn out the amp the 220 ohm load will keep everything good to go. so you can change CAB's or input channels on the line out?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому

      Yes, the resister will help to protect the OT. But the since the resistor is only 2 or 3 watts, it’s not going to protect it indefinitely, especially if the volume is up and a signal is being passed. The resistor will burn up eventually if that happens.

  • @luchoperetti182
    @luchoperetti182 3 роки тому

    Can I plug headphones into that jack? My amp already has a line out but it doesn't have a headphones out. If so, I would re wire it this way so that it mutes the amp speaker, since currently, they stay on when using the line out. Thanks!

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому +3

      No, this won’t work for headphones. The wiring would need to be different since the power could easily blow your headphones, and the impedance of your headphones may not be right to keep from damaging the amp.
      I would not suggest using headphones with this mod. Sorry.

  • @carlfrei2419
    @carlfrei2419 Рік тому

    Not sure why but when I did this mod I had to add 2 plastic washer to either side of the switch because if the switch touched the chasse it buzzed. Any ideas why? Thanks

  • @GabrielSkolderblad
    @GabrielSkolderblad 3 місяці тому

    Hm when I connect the cables like you do it works as long as I have the jack outside the chassi. As soon as I put the jack inside the chassi it shorts..

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 місяці тому +1

      I think you may have the wire leads from the board reversed. If you have the positive hooked up to the sleeve of the jack and you install the jack in a grounded chassis, it will ground out the signal. Try switching them and see if that helps.

    • @GabrielSkolderblad
      @GabrielSkolderblad 3 місяці тому

      I've tried to reverse them but that does the same thing.. The only thing that works is by connecting the black wire from the amp to the Shunt and the red to the tip. Then there is no sound when the jack is outside the chassi and the sound comes on when I put the jack in the chassi. But now I have a quite small background hiss that I'm not sure I've had before that's always on so maybe it's still not right?

  • @dagoldigol
    @dagoldigol 3 роки тому

    Does it works with vox pathfinder 10 sir?may I know also what's the capacitor needed..tnx..

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому +1

      It should work fine with the Pathfinder. As mentioned in the video, just make sure the impedance of the external speaker is the same as the one in the amp cabinet.
      It’s not a capacitor that’s put across the tabs, it’s a 3 watt resistor with around a 200-300 ohm value.
      Good luck!

    • @dagoldigol
      @dagoldigol 3 роки тому

      @@davetriestofixstuff4744 thnx sir for the information... more and GOd bless!!!

  • @smogtech17
    @smogtech17 3 роки тому

    can you use that same jack for headphones ? please let me know if possible.

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому

      Feasibly, you could, but I wouldn’t advise it. If you did, you would have to monitor the volume to keep it very low. Or you could install a resister in series with the jack to lower the signal to a lower level. Otherwise you’re more likely to blow out your headphones or your eardrums or both.

  • @bassdale17
    @bassdale17 3 роки тому

    can you help me source a Jack or item # to get one

  • @Drunkenmast
    @Drunkenmast 4 роки тому

    I'm trying to locate that style 1/4" input jack. Is there a specific name for that type? I like this jack vs having to add a switch and a standard 1/4" input jack.

    • @g.sferrazza10-13
      @g.sferrazza10-13 4 роки тому

      the lazy way
      www.amazon.com/dp/B07R9N1NL6/?coliid=I2NC2YUAVAXSG&colid=JYPAFN8MP6JH&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

    • @g.sferrazza10-13
      @g.sferrazza10-13 4 роки тому

      and for the speakers...
      www.amazon.com/dp/B07HY7562T/?coliid=I1C95QCIVMILJB&colid=JYPAFN8MP6JH&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

    • @Alamodust
      @Alamodust 3 роки тому

      "mono normally-closed jack" should get some search results.

  • @squeezestudios9123
    @squeezestudios9123 2 роки тому

    my fender practice amp is 4 ohm my cab is 16 ohm is that ok to do?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  2 роки тому +1

      As long as the speaker impedance is higher than the output impedance, you’ll be fine. So yes, it will be okay to hook your cabinet up to the amp, it just won’t be as loud as with a 4ohm cabinet.

    • @squeezestudios9123
      @squeezestudios9123 2 роки тому

      @@davetriestofixstuff4744 ok thanks

  • @paulyates5092
    @paulyates5092 Місяць тому

    I have just seen this video but why not just use an ordinary switched jack socket.

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  29 днів тому

      @@paulyates5092 That would have worked too. But this was meant to be a simple install that most people would have little trouble with, and since the signal is cut when you plug in the external speaker, it makes a switch redundant.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @streetndirtfighters5102
    @streetndirtfighters5102 3 роки тому

    what cables did you use?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому

      For the instrument, I used a generic tweed cable. For the speaker cable, I used one that I made from and old extension cord and some after market plugs.

  • @cchgn
    @cchgn 3 місяці тому

    NO! I want to KEEP my combo amp speaker and add an extended 1x12 cab. I don't want to cancel out my combo speaker.- play either/or, I want to play them both at the same time.

  • @yoheff988
    @yoheff988 4 роки тому

    I have a little piece of sh...t Fender Frontman 15G practice amp, 15W RMS 8 Ohm 6" speaker,
    I was wondering if I can do this mod to connect to a 1x12 Mesa Boogie EVM 12L 200W speaker, it's like connecting a mouse to a Lamborghini LOL

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  4 роки тому

      yoheff988 yes, this mod will work provided the impedance of the Mesa is at least 8ohms.

  • @splegle
    @splegle 3 роки тому

    do you need a resistor for this mod?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому

      It’s not necessary, but it’s a good safety feature to have.

    • @splegle
      @splegle 3 роки тому

      @@davetriestofixstuff4744 what's the worst case scenario if i didn't use one?

    • @davetriestofixstuff4744
      @davetriestofixstuff4744  3 роки тому +1

      @@splegle if you do the mod on a tube amp and you plug in a speaker cable with no speaker at the other end, you could damage your tubes, or rectifier, or output transformer, or any combination of those. The resistor is meant to provide a load against the OT to help prevent damage.

    • @splegle
      @splegle 3 роки тому

      @@davetriestofixstuff4744 oh ok i'm wanting to do this mod on a solid state combo amp. is it only a problem if tubes are involved?

    • @splegle
      @splegle 3 роки тому

      @@davetriestofixstuff4744 update: just modded it and it works perfectly :)

  • @g.sferrazza10-13
    @g.sferrazza10-13 4 роки тому

    long way headphone jack to attenuation or pad then into bigger amp effects loop power amp in

    • @g.sferrazza10-13
      @g.sferrazza10-13 4 роки тому

      sorry no attenuation required the phones works as a line out with a mono plug