Pastor Mike, I've been so blessed and encouraged by your series. As a woman who grew up in a very conservative eastern European culture and denomination, I have long struggled with wanting to more accurately understand and humbly live out my calling and obedience to Christ as a woman of faith and virtue. I no longer feel beaten down or bullied by misunderstood and misapplied texts taken out of context. I furthermore no longer understand my role as an outlier or lesser citizen of God's family or the church, and have joyfully embraced the loving call to submit to Christ and my Christ-honouring husband and the Biblical view of headship- with joy and no threat of being a second-rank citizen. I am so grateful for your gracious and thorough handling of these texts, as you've laid out this secondary doctrine with great care and love. That is so evident. Thank you for investing so much time- God is glorified and the church is blessed as it learns and flourishes, being established on a right foundation of truth.
Request for one more WIM video: we've spent a lot of time talking about what a woman's role is not, but it would be so helpful to hear teaching on what the feminine calling really is, in the church, marriage, parenting, the community, business, politics, etc. Too often we assume malicious intent in women who struggle with these matters: they're rebellious, rad feminists who hate men, hate authority, and want to wield power. But so many women really raise questions out of genuine hurt and confusion. It can seem that the bible is teaching that men are necessarily morally/spiritually superior, hence why only they can have these positions of spiritual authority. Popular books like Lies Young Women Believe teach that women are more sinful. Are women less able to please God? Why would God create half the population to be more easily deceived/less rational/etc. as many people I've heard claim? Women are starving for a biblical presentation of God's vision for womanhood. One that encompasses singles as well as wives. All I've ever heard from the pulpit on this subject is a stand-up routine about how the pastor's wife can always find his car keys. Fun story, I guess, but it's superficial. We really need something substantial here. If we want women to embrace their role, we need to clearly define it and not just vaguely declare that it has equal value; we need to specifically demonstrate that value. I think Pastor Mike could do a great job of this. Thanks for your ministry!
I'm almost totally egalitarian. That said, I keep to myself, so all this is just academic to me personally. you wrote: we've spent a lot of time talking about what a woman's role is not, but it would be so helpful to hear teaching on what the feminine calling really is... My theory, is that if one accepts the complementarian view, then the role of women will be negligible. If egalitarian, or nearly so, then I'd say expansive.
I agree! I want to hear Pastor Mike's POV, since he has studied extensively on the topic of WIM. I trust his POV and what he has to say on this. EDIT: I want to hear what Pastor Mike has to say on the roles of single Christian women of today.
Is scripture not clear enough? For wives at least: “Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.” Titus 2:3-5 “But women will be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.” 1 Timothy 2:15 “Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.” Ephesians 5:22-24 “The LORD God said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.’” Genesis 2:18 “A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.” 1 Corinthians 11:7-9 “So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander.” 1 Timothy 5:14 “A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies. Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value. She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life. She selects wool and flax and works with eager hands. She is like the merchant ships, bringing her food from afar. She gets up while it is still night; she provides food for her family and portions for her female servants. She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard. She sets about her work vigorously; her arms are strong for her tasks. She sees that her trading is profitable, and her lamp does not go out at night. In her hand she holds the distaff and grasps the spindle with her fingers. She opens her arms to the poor and extends her hands to the needy. When it snows, she has no fear for her household; for all of them are clothed in scarlet. She makes coverings for her bed; she is clothed in fine linen and purple. Her husband is respected at the city gate, where he takes his seat among the elders of the land. She makes linen garments and sells them, and supplies the merchants with sashes. She is clothed with strength and dignity; she can laugh at the days to come. She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue. She watches over the affairs of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness. Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her: “Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.” Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised. Honor her for all that her hands have done, and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.” Proverbs 31 Scripture seems pretty clear on a wife’s duties. She is to look after her home, have children and raise them well, respect her husband, and support him in being successful in the work the Lord has called him to.
@@AlixPrappas And to judge men, and be over the commander of the army, and to give him the order to begin the battle. Also to give a prophecy that would very soon come to pass. She said, “I will certainly go with you; however, the fame shall not be yours on the journey that you are about to take, for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman.” -words of Deborah -excerpt Judges 4
My mom's prayers are so powerful she reads her bible almost every single day goes to church 3times a week she is 65 she has never been afended by her place in the church she understands by the spirit but don't underestimate i have witness God answer her prayer many times
@@amariinoue2752Perhaps because she has also hidden the Word of God in her heart and meditates on it day and night plus talks during the day to her Heavenly Father when she finds it difficult to do so. If you care about it....then pray for her to be able to do so. But the Bible also says it is important to DO what it says....practice it. That’s what we all need to do and pray for one another as well as Love one another ad our Lord said....
@@commoveo1I hate that your childhood was filled with such things- esp by the hands of professing parents. I hope you have allowed yourself to grieve the past, admit that was your parents fault and part of Satan's plan to destroy you. "But God"- great study to look at that phrase in the Bible- He is our perfect Heavenly Father who knew sin would destroy us and yet He sent Christ Jesus anyway to save us- sinners great & small. If you have not- Come to Jesus bc He cares for you & proved His love & power by his life, death & resurrection- all while we were yet sinners. He is the only Way, Truth & Life to come to the Father. How many could you reach for Jesus with a testimony like that? What Satan uses to destroy, God can use for good. God bless.
I love your show! Thank you for all of your hard word in breaking down these biblical tenets. I’m 56 years old and finally returned to Jesus after 40 years of being a wanton sinner. I finally realized how much Jesus loves me no matter my past. Your ministry is comforting, kind and intellectual. Thank you again friend. May god bless you.
"You can't say 'Jesus is Lord' and then despise the things he commands his church." Wow. That line gave me chills. What a powerful truth this culture needs!!! Let our hearts just be "yes Lord, if you said it, its true, it's good, and I'm gonna obey it"
@@levimahan2393 First of all this was an ADMINISTRATIVE letter to a SPECIFIC church who was apparently having issues with people interrupting. This was NOT meant to be given as a general guideline to ALL CHURCHES. You all don't even know the history of your religion.
@@jleeland5393 sounds like you have it all figured out. Do you believe all of Paul's letters to churches don't apply to us today, or just this one? And if they don't apply, why are they in the bible, and should they be removed in your opinion? And for what reason do you believe that we should administer the church differently then how the early church did?
Felt this was such an anointed teaching. You are a blessing. (Thank you Lord for using this precious man to reach us who are infirm in body and confined at home and who are hungry for anointed biblical teaching Amen.)
I used to be staunch in my beliefs and your approach is helping me come around and understand more richly what I already "knew". You've challenged and grown my beliefs and I sincerely appreciate that. Thank you for providing this content.
If the beauty of the daughters of men was able to bring down the glorious angels of God causing them to leave their first estate, knowing they would be forever separated from their position of glory and condemned to judgment, how can we overlook the powerful beauty of the daughters of men Right now? Satan still goes to the woman because she is not the head but rather the heart. The devil does not try to enter in through the bolted door of authority-- but rather slides under the door. Satan is still tempting women to walk in the authority expressly reserved for men from the beginning. Woman came from man, man did not come from woman. The apple was created bearing it's seed. The seed has the power to create another apple but the authority of the seed was IN the created apple. The authority of the seed is contained in and given out of the authority of the apple. When these two powers are at odds the apple is forced to fall to the ground. The seed then exalts itself in the earth producing after its own fallen kind. But if the apple remains in the tree it retains its authority but cannot multiply. I believe the Bride of Christ is composed of men who have cast down their crowns of rightful strength and authority at Jesus' feet fall down in worship. And women, with covered heads concealing their glory from both men and angels, kneel down acknowledging their weaknesses with tears at Jesus' feet. Only then they can rise up together in trembling awe purified by His surpassing Love. She must not be spotted by the lure of the world and he must not be wrinkled by the lust of the flesh for Satan continues as the most clever destroyer of God's Good calling good evil and evil good. If BOTH men and women are bow down at the nail pierced feet of Jesus they will be unlikely to fall. HUMBLE YOURSELVES THEREFORE UNDER THE MIGHTY HAND OF GOD AND HE WILL EXALT YOU IN DUE TIME.
I am glad that there is no restriction on women learning, because I believe I have now spent over 26 hours learning about women in ministry...and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you, Pastor Mike!!
My wife and I are working through each of teaching videos in this series. We greatly appreciate all the work you put into it. Thank you and may our Lord bless you as you seek to bring clarity to the scriptures.
😂I truly laughed out loud when you reference putting the hardest part first on a UA-cam channel. It speaks volumes to me that you care about the Word and not the monetary gain. I love you brother! Keep fighting the good fight!
I’m so thankful for these videos on women in ministry and gender roles in the church. Everything you’re saying, Mike, makes sense to me and explains a lot that has puzzled me all my life (I’m 62). These explanations are actually liberating!
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 21 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” 1 Corinthians 6 18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. Matthew 12 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.” Romans 8:6 21st Century King James Version 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace, Luke 12:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’ 1 Timothy 5:6 21st Century King James Version 6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 1 Corinthians 6 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God. 1 John 2:17 21st Century King James Version 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 8:51 21st Century King James Version 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. Titus 1:14 21st Century King James Version 14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth. 2 Peter 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. Romans 12:2 21st Century King James Version 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Hebrews 9:24 21st Century King James Version 24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. Colossians 2:10 21st Century King James Version 10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power, Deuteronomy 6:14 21st Century King James Version 14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you 2 Corinthians 11:14 21st Century King James Version 14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 1 Corinthians 10:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Proverbs 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. 1 John 4:3 21st Century King James Version 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world. 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” Mark 8 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it. John 8 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” John 17 3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent. 1 Timothy 2 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Acts 4 12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” James 1 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. John 11:25-26 21st Century King James Version 25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; 26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 6:68 21st Century King James Version 68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life, Psalm 119:30 21st Century King James Version 30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me. Psalm 119:11 21st Century King James Version 11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee. Romans 12 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. 1 Corinthians 2:5 21st Century King James Version 5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God. 1 Peter 5:8 21st Century King James Version 8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 1 John 2:16-17 21st Century King James Version 16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. James 1:21 21st Century King James Version 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. 1 Corinthians 15:44 21st Century King James Version 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 21st Century King James Version 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ John 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:36 21st Century King James Version 36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.” Luke 6:5 21st Century King James Version 5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.” Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 5:29 21st Century King James Version 29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” John 8:32 21st Century King James Version 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 6:40 21st Century King James Version 40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.” Mark 13:13 21st Century King James Version 13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Revelation 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. John 8:36 21st Century King James Version 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Mark 13 31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
As someone who is struggling with this topic it was really hard to hear. I'm sure I'll have to come back after I pray for my heart to be open and after I check your sources. I really appreciate your prayer at the end and your straightforward ministry. God Bless!
This comes down to how attentively you read v36-40, especially in context with v26 forward (and the whole chapter, in fact). The refutation view makes the most sense, but he reads the chapter and the verses in a weird and disconnected way, much like I did before I discovered the refutation view. To believe that Paul is speaking to the women, you have to read "did the word of God originate only with you" etc as Paul claiming that the women were trying to portray themselves as the sole source of truth and teaching. This seems to be immediately contradicted by v37, which is addressed to males and not females. (This would mean that the Greek word thing is reinforcing a point against the men, btw. Paul wrote with an odd flow of thought, so I can't explain why he ordered it this way.) It seems to clearly be the case that he's speaking to men who believe that men are the sole source of truth and teaching. Since the the Word originated from the Spirit, and not the prophets (as Peter said, meaning that an all the authors of scripture were men argument is irrelavant), women gifted by the Spirit to teach are validated by the Spirit. Then you go to v39-40 then read similar to v37. Where Paul rebuked the spiritual gifts of the men by pointing out that his place as an Apostle is higher than whatever their gift is, he's likewise crouching the silencing of the women within the context of quenching the Spirit (forbidding tongues). v40 would then confirm that the problem wasn't women speaking, but speaking out of order, and that the right resolution for the problem isn't the v33-35 quote, but instead the checks and balance process that Paul lays out in the chapter. As far as other verses that he brings up, like the head covering verse and the Genesis appeal verse: (1) This is a non-issue, since the issue in c14 is a specific circumstance, and c11 is much more general, so it's mixing two things that might overlap but that are two separate scenarios (and to support this, Winger's question can be flipped back on him: If these two scenarios are the same, and Paul already addressed it in c11, why is he cramming it into the tail end of c14 to address it again, where it seems out of context?); (2) 1 Timothy 2:14 should be viewed as a general principle, not as an absolute, as female prophets and leaders and wise women in the OT show that viewing it as an absolute is illogical. Likewise, this 1 Corinthians 14 verse should be viewed as a refutation of the absolutist error. As Ecclesiastes says, the man who fears YHWH will avoid every extreme. (Also, we shouldn't avoid the fact that Paul says some very stupid and illogical things in both 1 Cor 11 and 1 Tim 2. Head coverings somehow prevent the angels from being tempted by females and children will be saved through childbearing - these sound like very stupid rabbinical traditions that we shouldn't be following. As does 1 Cor 14:33-35, btw. 1 Tim even sounds like it probably comes from an apocryphal text that blames Eve from the Fall, when Paul put the fault on Adam in 1 Cor, so 1 Tim may not even have been written by Paul. Note that 1 Cor 11 is in a series of issues, where starting from v12 of c7, he switched from saying that he was speaking prophetically in v10 of c7 to saying that he was speaking of his own opinion from v12 forward. This is important because he says that women were made for men but men weren't made for women. That's horrendously wrong.)
@@LackLuster2012 This comment doesn't disprove anything. That's one giant problem with piety, is that it looks like it's pro-Truth when isn't: Moses was called by YHWH and still did stupid things, including the false prophecy that got him banned from the Promised Land.
@@blanktrigger8863 He didn't enter because he disobeyed God by hitting the rock. I think you should be careful with the words you choose. And even at that I wouldn't call anyone stupid.
@@LackLuster2012 Yes, which was stupid (it was also part of a false prophecy, so it was also wicked). Not to mention he then blamed the Israelites for it. Which was also stupid and wicked.
Finished this video in 3 days... Chewing and taking in. Many doubts and wrong assumptions are cleared out. Thank you so much Mike for your dedication and sincere teaching. God bless you.
God bless you brother Pastor Mike. Thank you for teaching so gently and truthfully, your guidance/teachings are a balm in a rebellious prideful world for those of us who truly hunger for solid biblical teaching, spiritual meat for those truly seeking to be in submission partnership and friendship with God Almighty, especially when conviction is occurring and welcomed. I thank you and praise God for your ministry.
Thank you for your perseverance in pushing through to bring us this great teaching in spite of not yet being fully healed. I am very grateful for your willingness to plow ahead, take breaks when you need to, but then jump back in. Prayers for your full and SOON recovery. Thank you for your ministry!
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 21 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” 1 Corinthians 6 18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. Matthew 12 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.” Romans 8:6 21st Century King James Version 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace, Luke 12:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’ 1 Timothy 5:6 21st Century King James Version 6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 1 Corinthians 6 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God. 1 John 2:17 21st Century King James Version 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 8:51 21st Century King James Version 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. Titus 1:14 21st Century King James Version 14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth. 2 Peter 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. Romans 12:2 21st Century King James Version 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Hebrews 9:24 21st Century King James Version 24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. Colossians 2:10 21st Century King James Version 10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power, Deuteronomy 6:14 21st Century King James Version 14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you 2 Corinthians 11:14 21st Century King James Version 14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 1 Corinthians 10:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Proverbs 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. 1 John 4:3 21st Century King James Version 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world. 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” Mark 8 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it. John 8 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” John 17 3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent. 1 Timothy 2 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Acts 4 12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” James 1 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. John 11:25-26 21st Century King James Version 25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; 26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 6:68 21st Century King James Version 68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life, Psalm 119:30 21st Century King James Version 30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me. Psalm 119:11 21st Century King James Version 11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee. Romans 12 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. 1 Corinthians 2:5 21st Century King James Version 5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God. 1 Peter 5:8 21st Century King James Version 8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 1 John 2:16-17 21st Century King James Version 16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. James 1:21 21st Century King James Version 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. 1 Corinthians 15:44 21st Century King James Version 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 21st Century King James Version 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ John 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:36 21st Century King James Version 36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.” Luke 6:5 21st Century King James Version 5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.” Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 5:29 21st Century King James Version 29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” John 8:32 21st Century King James Version 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 6:40 21st Century King James Version 40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.” Mark 13:13 21st Century King James Version 13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Revelation 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. John 8:36 21st Century King James Version 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Mark 13 31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
I cried 😢 I am so relieved learning more teaching other women . I really restricted myself , I am so grateful to God for this video , teaching other women, a woman from creations book store, Pam spoke to me about you 🙏 her family listens together ❤️
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 21 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” 1 Corinthians 6 18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. Matthew 12 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.” Romans 8:6 21st Century King James Version 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace, Luke 12:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’ 1 Timothy 5:6 21st Century King James Version 6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 1 Corinthians 6 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God. 1 John 2:17 21st Century King James Version 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 8:51 21st Century King James Version 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. Titus 1:14 21st Century King James Version 14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth. 2 Peter 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. Romans 12:2 21st Century King James Version 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Hebrews 9:24 21st Century King James Version 24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. Colossians 2:10 21st Century King James Version 10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power, Deuteronomy 6:14 21st Century King James Version 14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you 2 Corinthians 11:14 21st Century King James Version 14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 1 Corinthians 10:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Proverbs 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. 1 John 4:3 21st Century King James Version 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world. 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” Mark 8 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it. John 8 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” John 17 3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent. 1 Timothy 2 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Acts 4 12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” James 1 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. John 11:25-26 21st Century King James Version 25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; 26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 6:68 21st Century King James Version 68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life, Psalm 119:30 21st Century King James Version 30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me. Psalm 119:11 21st Century King James Version 11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee. Romans 12 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. 1 Corinthians 2:5 21st Century King James Version 5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God. 1 Peter 5:8 21st Century King James Version 8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 1 John 2:16-17 21st Century King James Version 16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. James 1:21 21st Century King James Version 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. 1 Corinthians 15:44 21st Century King James Version 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 21st Century King James Version 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ John 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:36 21st Century King James Version 36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.” Luke 6:5 21st Century King James Version 5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.” Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 5:29 21st Century King James Version 29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” John 8:32 21st Century King James Version 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 6:40 21st Century King James Version 40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.” Mark 13:13 21st Century King James Version 13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Revelation 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. John 8:36 21st Century King James Version 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Mark 13 31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
You're the only guy I've seen discussing these passages and topics in calm way 🤣🤣 conservative extremists and liberals should learn from your behavior Edit- man all liberals are extremists so i don't need to repeat the word for them. It's sARcAsm 😆😆
I thank God for teachers like Mike. For a new Christian the temperament and genuine concern he displays is always a wonderful example I pray I can learn to emulate in my every move. I ask God daily to continue to work on my heart and my harshness so I may be more like my brothers and sisters who approach the Word and their fellow man with love and compassion.
Thank you for posting this, I'm still working my way through it. I married a man who returned to Christianity after a 20 year break so I've laughed at these verses thinking about how they would apply to us. After 12 years of marriage, I'm finally seeing. It's not that I come home from church and ask him questions to be taught, it's that we debate the answer together.
The Bible does not say to debate The Bible says if you have questions ask your husband at home 1 Timothy 2:12 Woman are not permitted to exercise authority or teach a man rather she is to remain in peace The Bible says clearly woman are under men It was Eve who sinned and gave eat to Adam to eat That is why we under submission of man
Adam sinned knowingly. Don’t forget that. Eve should have asked God when Satan lied to her. She was deceived the Bible says. Adam did know and sinned in knowledge, knowing the truth full well . Eve sinned but not in the same deliberate knowledge as she was deceived. She ought to have asked God instead of taking the serpents word over Gods Word. But because her sin was not with full knowledge (or deliberate as Adams was...) ,she was given the privilege of carrying the future Redeemer. Adam was guiltiest because he was not deceived. The Bible says “in Adam all die”, not Eve. “But in Christ”(the Bible calls Him the second Adam)”shall all be made alive”. Adam was the head of Eve and Christ is the Head of the Church. Praise God for the wonderful redemption story!
I find it illuminating that you take three hours to explain the plain meaning of the text. Let me help: Women should be silent in church. The fact that this (difficult to accept} misogyny has to be so painfully renegotiated to be made acceptable under our current cultural morals pretty much tells the tale. That said, appreciate your work.
Part 11 PAUL STATES THAT WOMEN SHOULD BE SILENT As in all the churches of the saints, the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. -excerpt 1 Corinthians 14 In this matter Paul speaks of the 'law'. There is a small possibility that he is referring to a Roman or local law. If not, then Paul is stating that women were still under the Old Covenant laws. Yet there was no Old Covenant law that states that women should be silent. Then the daughters of Zelophehad...came forward. They stood before Moses, before Eleazar the priest, before the leaders, and all the congregation at the entrance of the tent of meeting, saying, “Our father died in the wilderness, yet he was not among the group of those who gathered together against the Lord, in the group of Korah; but he died in his own sin, and he had no sons. Why should the name of our father be withdrawn from among his family simply because he had no son? Give us property among our father’s brothers.” So Moses brought their case before the Lord. Then the Lord said to Moses, “The daughters of Zelophehad are right about their statements. You shall certainly give them hereditary property among their father’s brothers... -excerpts Numbers 27 These women were not rebuked, even though they spoke before everyone, including Moses. What they asked for was granted to them, because God agreed with them.
When you speak of people trying to remove or discredit passages of scripture - 47:16 "I react by holding on even stronger to those passages" I agree whole heartedly, brother and I apply this in regards to Mark 16: 9-20. Keep up the great work, I love you Mike.
To be fair, that passage isn't being questioned because it's inconvenient to a worldview. It's in question because of some of the earliest manuscript evidence. It's not the same kind of "removal". It's a question of whether it was in the originals or added later.
As a woman who’s recently came back to Christ, this series is very informative and thank you for it! I wanted to add a few sentiments as an ex feminist rebellious woman to reach the culture today. Our society today breaks my heart because I’m 30 with 3 children & I only know maybe 4 women from my high school days with children. I think our society and culture have both historical missteps and failings in this area that have impacted today so greatly. I was a rebellious spirit because I loathed mass hypocrisy in church and I falsely blamed God. I think today we have to address the rebellious with compassion and understanding, but the church in general should always be condemning false pastors and teachings, addressing hypocrisy or materialism in the churches. Leading by example of course instead of once weekly hour meetings, there should be intermingling and ministry to the world like the first right? When feminism was growing, I think the church generally didn’t handle it very well. It would seem historically some abused the word of women submitting and used it to excuse ungodly behavior. This creates a deep resentment as rules for thee not for me, or higher standards and punishments and societal consequences for sin for women was a real problem. I saw it even in late 90s in church, such as when young unmarried women became pregnant they suffered the burden of sin and judgement far worse. I think to move forward and hope to create a desire for understanding of gender roles, we have to go to the root of how feminism developed, why was there a void in the first place for it to fill? I came to understand feminism was a elite driven standpoint designed to debt slave both parents at the demise of the children and family, and had we gone back and addressed the cries of women then in a loving and healthy way, we could have fostered, appreciated, and nurtured female abilities and values their roles as nurturers with far better outcomes. When we aren’t all following Christ first, it is as hard as it is to find a godly woman to submit to male authority these days I would also say it’s very hard to find a man with wisdom and godliness that’s deserving of such authority today. Women have shown they CAN do many things men do and are overperforming men in certain fields today, but instead of simply being angry at the feminist woke maybe we should be discussing positively in retrospect how culturally humanity could have improved the quality of life in the past and appropriately foster gender roles and positive differences for women. Obviously women home with children is far better for children and families as if today doesn’t demonstrate that well enough. The other issue today with careers and gender roles is that men and women have many equal ish performance office jobs whereas historically many men performed jobs that were intensely laborious or dangerous for longer hours, highlighting the sacrifices men make to provide. Statistics today do show that even if both father and mother work full time fathers perform 30% of household duties or child rearing when home. I personally just desire a man who I know does have wisdom and ethics that leads by example and does place God first. And genuinely leads his children and wife with word not simply leads because of his gender first but espouses they duties of that leadership. And women obviously need to stop trying to be men, they’ve shown they can perform certain things just as well, yet at the cost of our children and men collectively! This should highlight for feminists the immensely valuable role women have as nurturers in society and equal significance their separate roles always had! Let these decades be a learning moment for us all, and reevaluate the role of women not to be “in their place” so to speak, but value their different roles and offerings as equally as we value mens ❤❤ and if we place God first always in all things I think we have much less room to fail.
This is wonderful. I wish someone like you could speak to my fiancé, she is very much a victim of modern feminism. She is extremely hardworking and intelligent and goes to an elite STEM university that is majority men. She also comes from a background where women were always treated as less than, especially in a marital context as her parents have a very Biblically warped relationship. She knows the models she had growing up were terrible, but still rejects the complimentary view because in her mind, men and women can occupy the same roles in the work force, therefore it makes no sense why they can’t at home or especially church. She thinks it belittles and undervalues women and gives women little reason to be enthusiastic. She also thinks a complimentary view is a hotbed of abuse because her Dad uses the Bible as justification to abuse her mom, and excuse the behavior of other men, but never women. The women she surrounds herself with are all secular feminist types, which complicates things….
Yes, thank you Mike for being a huge blessing to contributing to those who are studying the Bible. Personally your videos have been a huge help for me on some debatable topics and I have more confidence on standing my ground knowing I’m not alone when I disagree on secondary issues with local leaders. Your videos are so helpful!
It is interesting, the video only came out 6 hours ago, it is 3 hours long and you comment 6 hours ago. Don't care if you are pro/con, just seems a bit curious you have to be commenting on something you have no clue about the points that might be bad... Just seems like teacher worship... 1 Cor 3:4) For when one person says, “I am with Paul,” and another, “I am with Apollos,” are you not ordinary people? 5) What then is Apollos? And what is Paul
@@dand4485 My comment was about his other content, I haven’t had the time to listen through this exact video. I comment on his newest video in hopes he reads it and if not then that’s okay. Let it be a blessing to another!
I doubt that's what is meant by "be silent" by Paul. After all, he worked alongside female and men leaders, *and* was aware of female and male Christians prophesying at gatherings.
@@overthinkingchristian8732 I don't. It's clear. Keep silent, not permitted to speak, be in submission... There is no way to twist this to mean something else. You either believe the Bible or not.
Finally made it to the end! And oh my goodness, these verses were a problem for me for so long, most because yes, they were taken out of context. Thank you.
Thank you Pastor Mike for this series. I've watched all of it (1- 11) and have learned a great deal about the different egalitarian perspectives, how they are not really in sync with scripture, and how the Bible more naturally supports complementarian views where men and women are equal in value but not roles. The culture of today is going against God's word, which isn't surprising, so I think we need to be equipped with knowledge of the Bible to be able to talk to Christians who push these unbiblical egalitarian narratives in our churches.
I just realized that you're using that numerical display on your bookshelf to indicate which section you're in 😆 This series is one of the most informative and enjoyable things I've come across on the internet. Thank you!
I found this video very helpful!! Especially when you explained the logical contradiction of thinking the Corinthian church was both disorderly concerning prophecy and was also silencing women- that hadn't occurred to me. Definitely going to think about these things more. I'm looking forward to your next video about the letter to Timothy! The argument I've struggled with in that passage is the meaning/connotation of the word for authority. The argument basically says the passage indicates that women shouldn't teach men in a domineering way. I hope you cover that, and considering how detailed these videos are, I'm certain that it's already on your radar. On a fairly unrelated note, I woke up to two tires going flat, but they were still under warranty and I had your video to watch while they worked on them, so I was a happy camper 😅 As always, I'm very thankful to hear how you think through these issues. Thank you for your thoughtful work, Mike!
Sorry to hear about your tires, Sara. I was in not exactly the same, but similar situation where I had to wait on a tow truck. I was really frustrated until I pulled up Winger! The tow truck arrived about 2 hours later and I could have happily sat there listening for another 2. Such amazing insight into God’s word makes you crave it!
Just here to say that I had to ‘tap to unmute’ to watch this with audio, and I giggled 🤭 But seriously, thank you again Mike for producing such a comprehensive resource on this topic.
Thank you for your words of encouragement my dear brother in Christ. Here's one of the sister had a revelation in 2020 and finally made the decision last year in April and that decision upset many people and I got passive aggressive reactions and many shunned me. Praying for one day God open their eyes to see and understand. Keep moving forward and honor God, God bless your ministry 🙏
Proud of you mainly for answering questions that aren’t always simple to answer. Proud of you and from personal experience you don’t wake up one morning with answers, rather through life’s treasures and studying Gods precious Word. God Bless you Mike and so heart warming to know young people love you. Again Proud of you! Sincerely, Howard
Back here even in the midst of rising Feminism, there are those of us that find great comfort in just knowing that His thoughts are good! Trust is the key word! Thank you so very much Pastor Mike
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 21 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” 1 Corinthians 6 18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. Matthew 12 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.” Romans 8:6 21st Century King James Version 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace, Luke 12:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’ 1 Timothy 5:6 21st Century King James Version 6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 1 Corinthians 6 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God. 1 John 2:17 21st Century King James Version 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 8:51 21st Century King James Version 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. Titus 1:14 21st Century King James Version 14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth. 2 Peter 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. Romans 12:2 21st Century King James Version 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Hebrews 9:24 21st Century King James Version 24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. Colossians 2:10 21st Century King James Version 10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power, Deuteronomy 6:14 21st Century King James Version 14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you 2 Corinthians 11:14 21st Century King James Version 14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 1 Corinthians 10:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Proverbs 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. 1 John 4:3 21st Century King James Version 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world. 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” Mark 8 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it. John 8 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” John 17 3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent. 1 Timothy 2 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Acts 4 12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” James 1 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. John 11:25-26 21st Century King James Version 25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; 26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 6:68 21st Century King James Version 68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life, Psalm 119:30 21st Century King James Version 30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me. Psalm 119:11 21st Century King James Version 11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee. Romans 12 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. 1 Corinthians 2:5 21st Century King James Version 5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God. 1 Peter 5:8 21st Century King James Version 8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 1 John 2:16-17 21st Century King James Version 16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. James 1:21 21st Century King James Version 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. 1 Corinthians 15:44 21st Century King James Version 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 21st Century King James Version 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ John 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:36 21st Century King James Version 36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.” Luke 6:5 21st Century King James Version 5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.” Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 5:29 21st Century King James Version 29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” John 8:32 21st Century King James Version 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 6:40 21st Century King James Version 40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.” Mark 13:13 21st Century King James Version 13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Revelation 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. John 8:36 21st Century King James Version 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Mark 13 31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
I'm really excited to dive into this. I was taught that women weren't supposed to be chattering in church, distracting others basically. And when they did feel called to speak in church they should do so under the covering and guidance/approval of their husband. Like if their was a woman teacher, her husband otta be senior pastor and backing up what she says etc. This view was never explained thoroughly to me so I'm excited I found this and can hear your teaching on the matter. I find a lot of fulfillment in serving my husband and family but i feel my counseling/nurturing nature isnt completely used up by them and I have leftover to give. Although I'd never want to counsel men, just women and children. I love your style of teaching and it really helps me
I try to make a habit of, metaphorically, placing a text that i don't understand on a shelf that is higher than me; expecting to more easily access it when I grow in spiritual understanding. Thanks to Mike I've reached another shelf! 😊
Blessings Pastor Mike. Whew…what a loaded topic, and definitely controversial. I grew up in a Sabbath-keeping Church and women could sing in the choir and even perform solos in giving HONOR and GLORY to GOD, during Worship services. Women could be ordained as a deaconess, helping serve and teach other women in the Church. But, women were NEVER allowed to speak from the pulpit. Even though GOD has guided me down a different path, today, I still find it difficult to actually listen to a woman teaching from behind the pulpit and even in “Prophecy” Conferences. Thanks 🙏 for continuing to teach as GOD inspires you. I feel blessed by your teachings of GODS HOLY WORD. Blessings, in JESUS HOLY NAME. Amen.
So the viewpoint that women couldn’t sing in worship…? The church I grew up in was solid until after I graduated high school and then over the next few years, it just got so weirdly legalistic. My mom was the church pianist and they reached a point where they wouldn’t even allow her to play in church (unless MAYBE) at the back of the church because the play at the front would be a distraction and make her the focus. Seriously, they moved the piano to the back of the sanctuary. Playing piano was how she served. Once they took that away, she didn’t know what to do anymore. Thankfully, they left that church and even MORE thankfully, all the members of that church eventually saw how they were wrong. It took years and years, but God showed them their errors.
Wow! 😟That makes me sad...and slightly depressed. Her presence was deemed a distraction. This sounds like the religions where a woman has to be covered from head to toe, except for her eyes. There was even a guy in the comment section here that didn't want a woman sitting in the front row. It really does paint men in a negative light. We live in a sinful world.
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Things that push people out into the world again. Sorry this happened to your family.
I definitely understand why the church didn't want women to have any role at all, they clearly just took what Paul said a bit too literally. But yeah, even most anti-women priest churches would at least have women in some position even if at a lower level like singing and children watching. It is very easy to think that all women should literally be silent in the church no matter what, I don't blame churches for thinking Paul literally meant that. It doesn't make that church right and it is sad, but I honestly get why it went down the path that it did. (I'm an egalitarian)
Mike, I applaud your thoroughness on the subject. You have an amazing amount of patience to wade through all of the material and refute these arguments with grace, seasoned with salt. I pray that this work bears good fruit. Keep it up.
Just Got to say Mike, thank you so much for the thorough, and very thoughtful work you do to Help those of us with lesser understanding of the scriptures to get these things right. I really appreciate it and you have already helped me so much in my walk and I only found ur channel a couple months ago. May God Bless You and your family.
Also, the total silence view is more common than you might thing in practice. Many churches in John MacArthur circles would say they don’t believe in total silence but also prohibit female deacons, females leading worship, praying in services, and doing announcements (except maybe for womens events). The reasoning I was given was to “avoid a slippery slope”.
I was brought up in a very Bible focused church. Very Gospel. I sat under a lot of good biblical teaching. It was all given by men - unless it was a women's meeting - and I sat in silence wearing my hat. No praying out loud, no making announcements. Definitely no prophesying! No one ever explained the contradiction between women nit being allowed to pray out loud and ch11.
Yeah, this is a really common view and a lot of women aren't necessarily struggling with feminism, but struggling with really really bad applications of complementarianism. Its hurt a lot of women. I think more women are driven to egalatarianism because of bad, harmful, unbiblical versions and applications of complementarianism than they are by feminism. Women in many complementarian circles have been greatly devalued by well meaning men in their church who miss the complementarianism in complementarianism. Ha. The assumption that egalitarians and complementarian women who struggle with these passages are all just feminism isn't fair or nuanced. The truth is, well meaning men undervalue the women in their churches all the time and it a real challenge. This is not all complementarian churches, but neither is this uncommon.
I'm praying for breana and very glad she chose to share this journey. Thank you Cadence for being so open and caring . God will meet you where you are.
There are certainly many views of this issue. People may disagree whether Paul's instructions on church government are applicable today or not. In the end, the Lord will decide and bless (or not) according to his will. But differing on this issue is a secondary matter. We are to love and fellowship with other believers no matter where they stand on it. What matters is the simple gospel: Jesus is Savior and Lord, he is risen, he will come again.
Mike, I think when we read and interpret these teachings, what we find has its starting point at our heart' s desires. As a women, I've have to ask myself, "what is it I am looking for here?" Am I reactionary to some past slight or abuse of these teachings? Or have I quieted my heart before my maker, and grown in my desire to become what He designed me to be, joyfully. It is an honor to be His daughter. It is His design. As I see the picture of Christ and the Church, what a privilege to project that image to this lost world. When I see Christ , who had all the fullness of Deity, humble Himself, this is a small thing. I pray I can grow in this attitude.
I think the opportunity some people use these teachings for SATIRE.. AND GOD HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR...... BUT SOME PEOPLE ONLY REACT TO THE CYNICISM IN THEIR COMEDY ! ITS A TOUGH SUBJECT TO BROACH AND REMAIN " POLITICALLY CORRECT " OR NOT GIVE OFFENSE TOO SOMEONE. GOD LOVES US ALL AND WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT THE FOOT OF HIS CROSS....... GETS LOST IN OUR MESSAGE
All throughout the Old Testament God is very upset with rigid religious people that are seemingly doing certain instructions that he commanded but are missing the more important matters n the law(to protect the oppressed,poor, and helpless). This type of teaching needs to be absolutely correct not just I think this and I think that, because you influence a lot of people and this belief system can harm and oppress women that are not in ideal situations.
Hi Pastor Mike 😁 I just want to say thank you for the work you've done to release all these videos about women in ministry! I hope you'll finish the rest of them!! 😊
Many women have husbands who have not developed their own biblical knowledge very deeply. She can pursue knowledge. But the option provided (ask their husbands at home) might not be any kind of option. This is confusing still. It’s not a simple manifestation of feminist backlash, but a genuine question.
It's not confusing at all, that's why scripture advises women to marry a godly/Christ-like man, so if you marry a man that is lacking spiritually, that is your cross to 🐻. In addition, If your husband is spiritually lacking you can consult your pastor.
@@cisuminocisumino3250 One point for your consideration - not all women are saved when they enter marriage. They become Christians later. They do not have the benefit of the warning of being equally yoked. Women may have this cross to bear, fair enough. But many church going men will be accountable one day for their own lack of spiritual maturity. This matters greatly, as it affects more than the man himself, rather his whole family and the church as well. They won't be off the hook for their apathy.
@@laurakosch *" One point for your consideration. Not all women are saved when they enter marriage. They become Christians later on."* If they're partner isn't spiritually mature they should consult they're local pastor or teachers. *"But many men will be accountable for their own lack of spiritual maturity."* They're many church going men, doesn't make them Christ-like, that's why Paul insists that women marry men that reflect the nature of Christ. Everybody will be accountable for their own lack of spiritual maturity.
A great series Mike and I really appreciate the depth to which you've done the research on this topic. I guess we're still looking for your podcast on 1st Timothy 2. Any idea on when we can expect that one?
Mike, please include in your next video if it’s biblical for women to work as Chaplains such as in hospitals or the Military or even some business or community environments. A chaplains role is often much more of a counseling, spiritual advisement in pluralistic environments so could often even be viewed (in my opinion) as an evangelistic role. Thank you for these, you have no idea how grateful I am and timely these are for me.
I would love to have a woman chaplain. As a woman in the hospital wearing just a gown and feeling vulnerable I think a woman visiting me would be more comfortable and appropriate.
@@salvadaXgracia what you're comfortable with doesn't equate to what is and isn't appropriate. The hypothetical situation you described isn't common place of interaction for a Hospital Chaplain.
chaplain chăp′lĭn noun A member of the clergy attached to a chapel. A member of the clergy who conducts religious services for an institution, such as a prison or hospital. A lay person who is appointed to provide spiritual leadership and counseling to members of an institution, as at a university. Chaplains fall under qualified male leadership within the Church and is attached to a place where The Church and World intersect and interact. Hospitals, Prisons, Military Units, Fire Fighters, Aviaton industry to just name a few.... It is undoubtedly in the same category as Pastors, Preachers, Teachers. They teach The Word and are accountable to its proper application and instruction for others. Its an Office with qualifications. And not everyone will be qualified...including other men.
@@shenanigansofmannanan I am talking about someone who would visit a sick woman or a woman who recently gave birth in her hospital room. It happens all the time.
My FIRST introduction into women in the church was through the idea that we must "reverse the curse" and the QRD / interpolation argument of these verses. I was a blank slate. I thought that those arguments were sound, but (now that I'd no longer call myself a baby Christian), I'm so excited to learn more and dig into this passage further.
Agreed! I think women should be priests, but trying to reverse thinking like this is some kind of college class isn't a good way to go about it. There are way better arguments out there, oh also most women priests aren't progressive which is probably why reverse thinking is rare in actual real churches.
my home church has been slowly moving away from an implicit, unofficial silence view (no women doing announcements/on stage during the service except for music). It's been an interesting culture shift! Thank you for taking the time to really dig in!
Thank you Pastor Mike for taking care with this topic. As a woman I will gladly keep silent if it honors my Lord Jesus Christ. Indeed, how we love God’s Word.
I've really appreciated this series so much, thank you so much for all your diligent work, Mike! Any chance we'll get the videos on 1 Timothy and real life application?
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 21 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” 1 Corinthians 6 18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. Matthew 12 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.” Romans 8:6 21st Century King James Version 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace, Luke 12:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’ 1 Timothy 5:6 21st Century King James Version 6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 1 Corinthians 6 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God. 1 John 2:17 21st Century King James Version 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 8:51 21st Century King James Version 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. Titus 1:14 21st Century King James Version 14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth. 2 Peter 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. Romans 12:2 21st Century King James Version 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Hebrews 9:24 21st Century King James Version 24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. Colossians 2:10 21st Century King James Version 10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power, Deuteronomy 6:14 21st Century King James Version 14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you 2 Corinthians 11:14 21st Century King James Version 14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 1 Corinthians 10:20 21st Century King James Version 20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Proverbs 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. 1 John 4:3 21st Century King James Version 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world. 2 John 9 21st Century King James Version 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” Mark 8 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it. John 8 51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.” John 17 3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent. 1 Timothy 2 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Acts 4 12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” James 1 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. John 11:25-26 21st Century King James Version 25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; 26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 6:68 21st Century King James Version 68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life, Psalm 119:30 21st Century King James Version 30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me. Psalm 119:11 21st Century King James Version 11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee. Romans 12 2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. 1 Corinthians 2:5 21st Century King James Version 5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God. 1 Peter 5:8 21st Century King James Version 8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 1 John 2:16-17 21st Century King James Version 16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. James 1:21 21st Century King James Version 21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls. 1 Corinthians 15:44 21st Century King James Version 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 21st Century King James Version 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ John 3:18 21st Century King James Version 18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:36 21st Century King James Version 36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.” Luke 6:5 21st Century King James Version 5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.” Matthew 22:29 21st Century King James Version 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. John 5:29 21st Century King James Version 29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 8:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” John 8:32 21st Century King James Version 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 6:40 21st Century King James Version 40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.” Mark 13:13 21st Century King James Version 13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Revelation 14:12 21st Century King James Version 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. John 8:36 21st Century King James Version 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Mark 13 31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
I feel like you glossed over the literalist view by saying it’s out of context, but failed to explain what exactly Paul was meaning when he put the clear instructions in the verses .
@@t.yaw51 update: I told my wife I was designating our house as a church so everyone has to be quiet. I got a raised eyebrow. (Btw, although this really happened, it was done in jest and we had a good laugh) I’m glad my original comment wasn’t taken seriously either because I was joking… although I’m sure someone will comment with something sassy.
Well, the thing is the women in the Church way back then were a standard to be measured by thanks to Pentecost. Plus, they had to contend with outsiders aka pagans that could perhaps influence the women to backslide😁
Thank you Mike for not responding with stock, poorly researched, confirmation bias responses on this and all of your topics. Biblical truth seekers appreciate and highly value this. Thank you
Wow! I just finished the entire video. I grew up in a conservative setting where all of the women wore head coverings not only in church but also during everyday life. My wife and I have changed our views some from the way that we were both raised. I very much appreciate your openness, respect for the word, the humility in which you represented your stance and the respect for brothers that have opposing views. You confirmed my current position in many ways and also made me realize that there were some opinions on this passage that I had never even heard of! It's interesting that you mentioned near the end the idea if Eve wore a head covering... I had never thought of that until recently and then you brought it up near the end of your video. As of right now our position is that the head covering should be worn in the assembly while praying or prophesying. Food for thought: what about places like Africa where the women's hair naturally is hardly any longer than the men's... How does that play into this? Thank you brother, and God bless you!
Thank you for your careful study and clear teaching. It seems so obvious now, but was previously a difficult passage for many of us. After this series I would like you to do a study on spiritual gifts, specifically tongues and prophecy. None of the churches I've been part of have used them. Yet, I can't find any convincing Biblical evidence for cessationism. We've often heard the horror stories of how these gifts are misused, and those are used as justification for why we don't practice them... I just don't understand how we can ignore such a clear verse as 1 Cor 14:39. I've been praying for clarity on this issue. I know that you will be able to teach the proper way to use the gifts.
@Benjamin Brooks. full disclosure that I am a practicing charismatic and a woman. I also have a theory that the Holy Spirit is sometimes quenched by people/groups that are unwilling to deal with the full implications of two areas of truth: 1. the full Biblical role of the Holy Spirit. 2. The full Biblical role of women in the Church
I grew up in cessationist churches and it’s been encouraging to be apart of a church that believes in the gifts and uses them, even though I do still have a lot of caution and fear of misuse. It’s sad that we’ve let fear stop us from experiencing the power and gifts of God. There’s misuse of everything, very clearly people mistook communion in the scriptures, leading to sickness and death, and I myself have wrongfully taken at times. But it’s still something we continue doing, and rightfully so, because it’s Holy! Perverting good things isn’t new and we shouldn’t let evil keep us from doing good. 🙏🏻 learning and growing in this myself and hope the Lord will teach and grow you also! Don’t be afraid to get around Christians who use the spiritual gifts, they may be able to teach you something and encourage your faith 🙌🏻
I believe that if it’s in the Bible it’s supposed to be there. There is no question or many interpretations of it. It’s there for a reason. As far as I’m concerned there isn’t even any room for discussion. Women can teach. In fact I have learned a lot and studied the Bible with a woman. But it says not from the pulpit. No teaching in church. Don’t see a problem with it.
I think one really important thing to ask here is what LAW is Paul talking about when he says "as even the law says". This isnt in scripture so it is definitely referring to a law outside of the bible. Many bible translations put "as in all the churches of the saints" in the previous sentence which makes perfect sense about God being a God of peace in all the churches of the saints. We are missing a lot of context here, almost 2000 years ago Paul spoke to a church in their culture.. they probably knew exactly what law Paul was talking about. The Greek doesnt have punctuation like our english so cannot confirm what is a quote through punctuation. What we do know is that this is very very specific and it has nothing to do with women prophesying or using their giftings in the church because only a few verses earlier Paul instructs everyone, brothers and sisters to each bring their gifts to be used in the congregation. Translations that just say brothers are misleading, because the Greek word just means siblings. Paul gave the assignment in this chapter and the previous 3 chapters on everyone using their gifts for the benefit of everyone in the church and no one is to say to another "we dont need you". But today in a lot of churches men are basically telling half the church... we dont need your preaching and teaching gifts, when Paul specifically says multiple times that everyones gifts are essential in the building up of the WHOLE body, not just half of it. Paul also explains that prophecy is the greatest gift to desire to have for the benefit of the church. Teaching and preaching may not include prophecy, but prophecy often includes preaching and teaching. There is overlap with some of these words. To say prophets didnt preach or teach when they prophesied is simply ignoring the facts. When Jesus ministered and preached he was regarded as a prophet. What did John the Baptist do? He preached to people in the wilderness. He was a prophet with followers who learned from him. He prepared the way for Jesus by preaching and teaching. A prophet did more than preach and teach, a prophet often spoke direct messages from God. The fact that Paul instructed women how to go about prophesying in the church should really dispel the need for us to try to make these scriptures exclude women from doing what they have been told to do in scripture. Paul repeatedly describes prophecy as higher and more important than preaching and teaching in Corinthians 11-14. People get so caught up splitting hairs. Theres nothing more authoritative someone can do than prophesy!! There's no greater gifting apart from being an apostle, and there are no longer apostles. It makes no logical sense for a woman to be able to use the highest gift, but not the lesser ones, especially considering the amount of times and ways Paul tells women to do the exact opposite throughout 1 Corinthians 11-14. If you want to know more check out the video featured on my channel.
Thank you Pastor Mike! I have some things to take to the Lord. Praying for the fog brain to lift.. I am still dealing with it after a year. Your message was not a easy one so please give yourself a break😊 Love and Peace, your Sister in the faith.
I'm a silent prophet. The best times when people are ready to hear a prophecy I can feel it. Most people have their ears shut from dogmatic teachings :( I suffer silently because I watch others go through things that I knew they shouldn't have if they were only able to hear. I'm a woman so that means there's even more dogma against me. I'm also an imperfect person tempted with the daily issue of impatience. It's so weird how people can really cling to their sin. Even myself. When I read the verses of the Bible, I see it crystal clear when it's the appropriate time and laugh to myself how incorrect we all are. I can't wait when we really start following Christ, for real. Let go of the dogma and truly submit our hearts to the Lord.
i hear you ..i see you I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY..see profile pic..WORMWOOD .. clearly God had no sexual preference in handing this information out ..just saying..is what it is and its the THRONE OF GOD LITERALLY
I work with a man who is a Christian. But he didn’t/doesn’t like me too much. I am a Christian too, so I thought that if I tried to talk to him about something Christian related, that he’d maybe be ok with me. I don’t remember what I asked him, but his answer started out with him saying, “Since you don’t have a husband, I will answer your question…” Since I don’t have a husband who am I supposed to ask?
Well, it would seem you answered your question with the first part. Seems that you are incapable of tracking your own thought process. Meaning that without a masculine presence in your life your mind is not acclimated to things that would be trivial for us It's not really about who you are meant to ask, but the interpretation leading up to asking. It's not his or anyone else's responsibility to assure you of mind. But if and when you have a husband, he will be your head covering. You aren't even supposed to confront the pastor about matters of spirituality, you are supposed to interpret from your husband and follow his household It's no different than a man who does not have Christ embellishing things from the world. When he becomes the bride of Christ, he is supposed to have Jesus as the head for his decision making. Without it he is a man who forgets what he looks like apart from the mirror Right now you have nothing to mirror
Well he sounds horrible honestly. A good theological discussion should appeal to anyone who loves Jesus, in my onion. I think he has misinterpreted your intent and frankly he sounds arrogant.
I always just assumed and have also read that Paul stated this because the culture of the day didn't allow for women to study the Torah, something which would be actively referred to within their new Christian context.. That the men would study and then inform the women and children in the ways of God. The Jewish culture was to have them positioned at the rear of the synagogue (away from the men) for this reason.. I don't see the problem. 🤔. They couldn't teach for above reason but they could prophesy (a spiritual gift) and pray in public (neither of which are reliant on being studied in the Torah). Absolutely no issue.
Hey Mike, I love your videos so much and have devoured so much of your content since I discovered your videos a few months ago. I would really love to see you do a video on young earth creation vs old earth creation based on the Bible and the evidence available. Thank you so much for all you do!
I have walk faithfully with my Lord and Savior for 67 years. Most of that time was spent working with in the church. For a woman, this choice or calling can be a heavy cross to carry. One is judged first as a woman and then as a Christ follower. Each individual has their own personal scriptural interpretation of a woman’s role. That interpretation, without question, becomes your standard of conduct. This is chaos at best and spiritual abuse at the worst. My conclusion, after all these years, serve the Lord! Do what you can do for the glory of God within the boundaries or shake off the dust and move forward. Foremost, do not allow the sin of anger, bitterness and unforgiveness in your life. Follow Christ’s example, He loved the church and gave His life for it. Sincerely love others with a different view. This is the mark of a true Christian. Christ’s calling isn’t a ridged role, it is a loving relationship!
you wrote: Each individual has their own personal scriptural interpretation of a woman’s role. That interpretation, without question, becomes your standard of conduct. This is chaos at best and spiritual abuse at the worst. It is clear as crystal. Deborah An anointing of the Holy Spirit is the anointing of a powerful masculine being. That anointing eclipses gender.
Loved that realization of the anointing of the Holy Spirit is of a powerful masculine being. The anointing transcends gender in that the Holy spirit anoints women to be witnesses and proclaim the gospel along with men. Masculinity is not a prerequisite however the Apostles were men and therefore the pattern and standard God chose to spread the gospel. The way the Lord set up the church in the beginning is certainly the way he intended for his church to continue.
@@markmacmac8957 Sorry them tube keeps deleting my reply since it is about gender. you wrote: ... powerful masculine being... That comes from my short essay on Deborah. (l'll post it if you want it.) All the judges were men...except one. you wrote: The way the Lord set up the church in the beginning is certainly the way he intended for his church to continue. So there is this old post from me: I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae. I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of his people and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been the benefactor of many people, including me. At the end of Romans, Paul mentions about 24 people. Phoebe is the first to be mentioned. Translation is NIV, and is also correct, regarding the word 'deacon'. Strongs Number: G1249 ******************************* If there isn't male or female and we are all sons, how would gender be important? For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. -excerpt Galatians 3 -words of Paul Since we are still the same physically, this verse must apply to the spiritual.
I would hope that all examples in the Bible would be equally held as truth. Jesus broke with Jewish tradition when he taught women the Torah and elevated them to disciples. For example Mary of Bethany sat at Christ feet. Again, Jesus breaks with tradition, Joanna, wife of Chuza and other women are allowed to supported and followed Jesus. This conduct would of been considered scandalous for women. Scholars believe Joanna may have been a key source of much of the detailed information Luke recorded. She was at the crucifixion, burial and proclaimed the resurrection. In a day, when women voices were considered unreliable and invalid in legal matters. On the day of Pentecost, woman were present and received the same benefits and calling. Phoebe, was a deacon of the church in Cenchreae. Lydia first convert in Europe, the leader of her church. Junia the Bible list as an apostle. These examples are also recorded in the Bible concerning the early church.
Nothing controversial about the word of God. It means exactly what it says. A women's worth in the eyes of God is equal (very high) to a man's. She is however given different roles, different strengths, and different responsibilities. The man is to be the leader in both the church and the home according to the Bible (God's message to us on how to live).
I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles. God ruled Israel through the Judges.
@@kendall959 A Judge at this time, was VERY different from a judge in our time. The Judge was over the nation of Israel. But not as a man, as King, or as a woman, as Queen, because God was not rejected as King as yet. God ruled Israel through the Judges. Wheresoever I have walked with all Israel, spake I a word to any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people, saying, Why have ye not built me an house of cedars? -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 KJV Major modern English translations like the NASB use the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people... [PASTOR - Origin: late Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French pastour, from Latin pastor ‘shepherd’.] In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation Also: Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning, and since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel. -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verses 9 and 10 KJV -God speaking to Nathan the prophet More, proving a Judge was a pastor: But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways. -excerpt Judges 2 What happened after Deborah's time?: Then the sons of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord handed them over to Midian for seven years. -excerpt Judges 6 -first sentence Also, a Judge had the ultimate in spiritual authority. A Judge, according to scripture, had the authority to judge homicide cases. So if a Judge gave a verdict that a man had committed the sin of premeditated murder, the Judge could, and had to, order his execution. As his execution was required for this sin under the Law of the Old Covenant. Also, according to scripture, a Judge's verdict could not be altered or appealed. ... in accordance with the verdict which they tell you, you shall act; you shall not turn aside from the word which they declare to you, to the right or the left. -excerpt Deuteronomy 17
@user-iz8np3vv4i complete misinterpreting of scripture. She was not that kind of "Judge". Women weren't even allowed to talk in church or in public in that time. No evidence she was more than a mouthpiece for God (a high honor) the same as EGW. A women never sat in Judgement of a man in all of scripture. It would not have been tolerated in their culture(God's culture)and shouldn't be ever.
@@kendall959 Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. She used to sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the sons of Israel went up to her for judgment. -excerpt Judges 4 A Judge, according to scripture, could judge homicide cases. There was no appeal to a Judge's verdict, according to scripture. I can post my essay, or reply to questions.
Loved the "cat break," Mike! And thanks so much for this video. I'm writing an essay about the life of Paul and even though I don't want to provide too much commentary about his writings, I did want to tackle this passage because so much of the culture and history of the time period informs our interpretation of it. So thanks again for this!
Part 11 PAUL STATES THAT WOMEN SHOULD BE SILENT As in all the churches of the saints, the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. -excerpt 1 Corinthians 14 In this matter Paul speaks of the 'law'. There is a small possibility that he is referring to a Roman or local law. If not, then Paul is stating that Christian women were still under the Old Covenant laws. Yet there was no Old Covenant law that states that women should be silent. Then the daughters of Zelophehad...came forward. They stood before Moses, before Eleazar the priest, before the leaders, and all the congregation at the entrance of the tent of meeting, saying, “Our father died in the wilderness, yet he was not among the group of those who gathered together against the Lord, in the group of Korah; but he died in his own sin, and he had no sons. Why should the name of our father be withdrawn from among his family simply because he had no son? Give us property among our father’s brothers.” So Moses brought their case before the Lord. Then the Lord said to Moses, “The daughters of Zelophehad are right about their statements. You shall certainly give them hereditary property among their father’s brothers... -excerpts Numbers 27 These women were not rebuked, even though they spoke before everyone, including Moses. What they asked for was granted to them, because God agreed with them. ____________________________________________ In this case it is generally believed that the women were on one side of the room and the men on the other. The wives were asking their husbands what something meant in the middle of the sermon. It is thought that Paul just wanted to keep some basic order. Therefore Paul writes: If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. I'm saying this because it seems to make sense. It may or may not be correct.
I believe that if you truly are married to the one God wanted for you, there’s a strong level of trust. That said, I believe that women and men have different roles in the family. Now in my house, since my husband is the breadwinner, I defer to him when one of the kids asks for something. It’s not about obeying. It’s about respecting. He has the checkbook so to speak. Likewise if my kids ask my husband for a snack, he defers to me. Dinner might be almost ready. I talked to my aunt about it, and said that I don’t mind having one man be the leader of the family, the head of the family. But she gave me a different perspective. She thinks not of a marriage as one general leading his troops, but rather two admirals leading a fleet.
I am just going to run with that military analogy a little bit and point out 2 admirals never works. Military has always has a strict chain of command with 1 on top giving orders. Though one of the big innovations during WW2 was when the Germans gave field commands autonomy since they didn't have time to call back to the main HQ with the blitzkrieg. But it was still hierarchical. Though all that being said military leadership is nothing like the servant leadership found in the Bible. I think a better analogy would be an admiral and a senator leading a country. The admiral is clearly in command but he relies on the senator to know what the needs of the people are. Then he sacrifices his forces (his body in the case of gender roles) to fill those needs. The senator can't override the admiral, but if the admiral doesn't make senator happy with his decisions he will have hell to pay after the battle. And to add to the analogy, God is the president. If the admiral goes against God it would be a military coup, and those never end well.
My family would be destitute if I did such a thing. Yeah know I just try and respect and leave my husband alone as much as possible. He doesn't want to do any kind of headship thing in our home. Just work and drink till he goes to bed. I wish people would be more realistic when speaking on this bc not everyone has marriages where this is even possible.
@@ColorsFlight My marriage is far from perfect. And I know there are marriages that are one nightmarish day after another. In fact, just last week after 25 years of marriage my husband doesn’t want to be married anymore. No reason. No answer. Nothing. Happened the same day my favorite aunt died. And the day I ended up in the hospital with acute kidney failure and an ugly adrenal crisis. Just got out of the hospital. But I’ve been praying for a change. Mostly praying my husband would change. But God answered my prayer. Just in a way I never expected. So, while I’m reeling from his announcement, I’m also a bit relieved. Sorry about your situation. 😔
@@ColorsFlight We are discussing the ideal. If you can't reach the ideal that is fine, none of us can. That is why God's forgiveness is so awesome. We shouldn't lower the ideal to make ourselves feel better because the ideal is meant to be something we strive for, not something we achieve. Instead just know that God values you and your family. And if you give Him the chance, He might even be able to help.
Dear brother thanks for digging deep into this study, greatly appreciate it. However, I will err on the plain reading of scripture and defer to our forefathers and the early church history which I noticed you did not cover. This topic was never an issue of contention until recent times. The practice in all the churches was that women should be literally silent. The contention you brought up of a few certain women prophesying is never mentioned to be in the church because that would contradict apostolic teaching, you can't assume when women are mentioned prophecying that it happened in the church, it must be shown. That being said I understand it's the hardest view in our western worldview to embrace or give approval of any kind. Love you tho I think you gave it a fair shake, but scripture is king no matter how uncomfortable, I will stick by scripture. God Bless.
Hi Mark, I’ve been studying this specific topic of whether Paul meant women prophesying in the church. If women are literally meant to be silent, does that mean they should not sing or do announcements? Thanks for your input!
@@nickosborne1556 Good evening, friend, Thank you for your question. In 1 Corinthians 14, Paul addresses conduct during church assemblies, including worship. Specifically, verses 34-35 state: "Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." Given this directive, if women were not permitted even to ask questions during the assembly, it logically follows that they would also be prohibited from making announcements or singing. Now, it's common for some to raise hypothetical scenarios, such as asking whether women would still be forbidden to speak in cases of emergency or exceptional circumstances. Of course, exceptions rooted in love do exist, as Romans 13:10 reminds us: "Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." For example, we see the Pharisees condemning our Lord for healing on the Sabbath, which they perceived as a violation of the law. However, they failed to understand the deeper message of Scripture and the love of God. In the same way, while exceptions may arise from a place of love, we should not seek to disregard the instructions handed down to us merely for convenience or because these customs feel foreign to our modern sensibilities. Indeed, we must humbly submit to the order God has established in His church. God bless, brother.
Pastor Mike, I've been so blessed and encouraged by your series. As a woman who grew up in a very conservative eastern European culture and denomination, I have long struggled with wanting to more accurately understand and humbly live out my calling and obedience to Christ as a woman of faith and virtue. I no longer feel beaten down or bullied by misunderstood and misapplied texts taken out of context. I furthermore no longer understand my role as an outlier or lesser citizen of God's family or the church, and have joyfully embraced the loving call to submit to Christ and my Christ-honouring husband and the Biblical view of headship- with joy and no threat of being a second-rank citizen. I am so grateful for your gracious and thorough handling of these texts, as you've laid out this secondary doctrine with great care and love. That is so evident. Thank you for investing so much time- God is glorified and the church is blessed as it learns and flourishes, being established on a right foundation of truth.
1 Timothy 3:15!
Request for one more WIM video: we've spent a lot of time talking about what a woman's role is not, but it would be so helpful to hear teaching on what the feminine calling really is, in the church, marriage, parenting, the community, business, politics, etc.
Too often we assume malicious intent in women who struggle with these matters: they're rebellious, rad feminists who hate men, hate authority, and want to wield power. But so many women really raise questions out of genuine hurt and confusion. It can seem that the bible is teaching that men are necessarily morally/spiritually superior, hence why only they can have these positions of spiritual authority. Popular books like Lies Young Women Believe teach that women are more sinful. Are women less able to please God? Why would God create half the population to be more easily deceived/less rational/etc. as many people I've heard claim?
Women are starving for a biblical presentation of God's vision for womanhood. One that encompasses singles as well as wives. All I've ever heard from the pulpit on this subject is a stand-up routine about how the pastor's wife can always find his car keys. Fun story, I guess, but it's superficial. We really need something substantial here.
If we want women to embrace their role, we need to clearly define it and not just vaguely declare that it has equal value; we need to specifically demonstrate that value. I think Pastor Mike could do a great job of this. Thanks for your ministry!
I'm almost totally egalitarian. That said, I keep to myself, so
all this is just academic to me personally.
you wrote:
we've spent a lot of time talking about what a woman's role is not, but it would be so helpful to hear teaching on what the feminine calling really is...
My theory, is that if one accepts the complementarian view,
then the role of women will be negligible.
If egalitarian, or nearly so, then I'd say expansive.
I agree! I want to hear Pastor Mike's POV, since he has studied extensively on the topic of WIM. I trust his POV and what he has to say on this. EDIT: I want to hear what Pastor Mike has to say on the roles of single Christian women of today.
Is scripture not clear enough?
For wives at least:
“Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good.
Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children,
to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.”
Titus 2:3-5
“But women will be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.”
1 Timothy 2:15
“Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.”
Ephesians 5:22-24
“The LORD God said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.’”
Genesis 2:18
“A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.”
1 Corinthians 11:7-9
“So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander.”
1 Timothy 5:14
“A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies.
Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value.
She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life.
She selects wool and flax and works with eager hands.
She is like the merchant ships, bringing her food from afar.
She gets up while it is still night; she provides food for her family and portions for her female servants.
She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
She sets about her work vigorously; her arms are strong for her tasks.
She sees that her trading is profitable, and her lamp does not go out at night.
In her hand she holds the distaff and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
She opens her arms to the poor and extends her hands to the needy.
When it snows, she has no fear for her household; for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
She makes coverings for her bed; she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
Her husband is respected at the city gate, where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
She makes linen garments and sells them, and supplies the merchants with sashes.
She is clothed with strength and dignity; she can laugh at the days to come.
She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
She watches over the affairs of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness.
Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:
“Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.”
Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.
Honor her for all that her hands have done, and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.”
Proverbs 31
Scripture seems pretty clear on a wife’s duties. She is to look after her home, have children and raise them well, respect her husband, and support him in being successful in the work the Lord has called him to.
@@AlixPrappas And to judge men, and be over the commander of the army,
and to give him the order to begin the battle. Also to give a prophecy that would
very soon come to pass.
She said, “I will certainly go with you; however, the fame shall not be yours on the journey that you are about to take, for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman.”
-words of Deborah -excerpt Judges 4
This would be immensely helpful. Perhaps as a conclusion video to the series.
My mom's prayers are so powerful she reads her bible almost every single day goes to church 3times a week she is 65 she has never been afended by her place in the church she understands by the spirit but don't underestimate i have witness God answer her prayer many times
Offended...
Why does she not read her bible every day?
🙏🏽
@@amariinoue2752Perhaps because she has also hidden the Word of God in her heart and meditates on it day and night plus talks during the day to her Heavenly Father when she finds it difficult to do so. If you care about it....then pray for her to be able to do so. But the Bible also says it is important to DO what it says....practice it. That’s what we all need to do and pray for one another as well as Love one another ad our Lord said....
@@commoveo1I hate that your childhood was filled with such things- esp by the hands of professing parents. I hope you have allowed yourself to grieve the past, admit that was your parents fault and part of Satan's plan to destroy you. "But God"- great study to look at that phrase in the Bible- He is our perfect Heavenly Father who knew sin would destroy us and yet He sent Christ Jesus anyway to save us- sinners great & small. If you have not- Come to Jesus bc He cares for you & proved His love & power by his life, death & resurrection- all while we were yet sinners. He is the only Way, Truth & Life to come to the Father. How many could you reach for Jesus with a testimony like that? What Satan uses to destroy, God can use for good. God bless.
I love your show! Thank you for all of your hard word in breaking down these biblical tenets. I’m 56 years old and finally returned to Jesus after 40 years of being a wanton sinner. I finally realized how much Jesus loves me no matter my past. Your ministry is comforting, kind and intellectual. Thank you again friend. May god bless you.
Thanks for sharing my testimony. 30 yrs for me. Sure is great to finally make it home to the Father's arms.
Tried to warn them that this is why the original people argument is fundamentally stupid😂
"You can't say 'Jesus is Lord' and then despise the things he commands his church."
Wow. That line gave me chills. What a powerful truth this culture needs!!!
Let our hearts just be "yes Lord, if you said it, its true, it's good, and I'm gonna obey it"
I love your sentiment here. Truly awesome.
PAUL said this. NOT JESUS
@@jleeland5393Was Paul not Divinely Inspired in this writing?
@@levimahan2393 First of all this was an ADMINISTRATIVE letter to a SPECIFIC church who was apparently having issues with people interrupting. This was NOT meant to be given as a general guideline to ALL CHURCHES. You all don't even know the history of your religion.
@@jleeland5393 sounds like you have it all figured out. Do you believe all of Paul's letters to churches don't apply to us today, or just this one? And if they don't apply, why are they in the bible, and should they be removed in your opinion? And for what reason do you believe that we should administer the church differently then how the early church did?
Felt this was such an anointed teaching. You are a blessing. (Thank you Lord for using this precious man to reach us who are infirm in body and confined at home and who are hungry for anointed biblical teaching Amen.)
I used to be staunch in my beliefs and your approach is helping me come around and understand more richly what I already "knew". You've challenged and grown my beliefs and I sincerely appreciate that. Thank you for providing this content.
If the beauty of the daughters of men was able to bring down the glorious angels of God causing them to leave their first estate, knowing they would be forever separated from their position of glory and condemned to judgment, how can we overlook the powerful beauty of the daughters of men Right now?
Satan still goes to the woman because she is not the head but rather the heart. The devil does not try to enter in through the bolted door of authority-- but rather slides under the door. Satan is still tempting women to walk in the authority expressly reserved for men from the beginning. Woman came from man, man did not come from woman. The apple was created bearing it's seed. The seed has the power to create another apple but the authority of the seed was IN the created apple. The authority of the seed is contained in and given out of the authority of the apple. When these two powers are at odds the apple is forced to fall to the ground. The seed then exalts itself in the earth producing after its own fallen kind. But if the apple remains in the tree it retains its authority but cannot multiply.
I believe the Bride of Christ is composed of men who have cast down their crowns of rightful strength and authority at Jesus' feet fall down in worship. And women, with covered heads concealing their glory from both men and angels, kneel down acknowledging their weaknesses with tears at Jesus' feet. Only then they can rise up together in trembling awe purified by His surpassing Love. She must not be spotted by the lure of the world and he must not be wrinkled by the lust of the flesh for Satan continues as the most clever destroyer of God's Good calling good evil and evil good. If BOTH men and women are bow down at the nail pierced feet of Jesus they will be unlikely to fall. HUMBLE YOURSELVES THEREFORE UNDER THE MIGHTY HAND OF GOD AND HE WILL EXALT YOU IN DUE TIME.
@@susannemedina7955 thank you for your dedication and love to the word of God and your calling…
I am glad that there is no restriction on women learning, because I believe I have now spent over 26 hours learning about women in ministry...and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you, Pastor Mike!!
One day, he's gonna do a vid that long lol.
@@arcguardian i dont believe you can make a video over 11:59 on youtube, but it may have changed
@@Redtornado6 it’ll be in parts
@@hunteroxentine3661 ahhhh right fair enough
Yeah, that would have been awkward, lol.
My wife and I are working through each of teaching videos in this series. We greatly appreciate all the work you put into it. Thank you and may our Lord bless you as you seek to bring clarity to the scriptures.
Thank you for your willingness to serve pastor Mike.
I greatly appreciate the Mikeian style - both the puns and the accessibility of the in-depth teaching. Thanks again!
And don’t forget the Lord of the Rings references!
😂I truly laughed out loud when you reference putting the hardest part first on a UA-cam channel. It speaks volumes to me that you care about the Word and not the monetary gain. I love you brother! Keep fighting the good fight!
I’m so thankful for these videos on women in ministry and gender roles in the church. Everything you’re saying, Mike, makes sense to me and explains a lot that has puzzled me all my life (I’m 62). These explanations are actually liberating!
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 21
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
Matthew 12
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.”
Romans 8:6
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6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace,
Luke 12:20
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20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’
1 Timothy 5:6
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6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
1 Corinthians 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 John 2:17
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17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Matthew 22:29
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29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 8:51
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51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
2 John 9
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9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
Titus 1:14
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14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.
2 Peter 3:18
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18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Romans 12:2
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2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Hebrews 9:24
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24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.
Colossians 2:10
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10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power,
Deuteronomy 6:14
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14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you
2 Corinthians 11:14
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14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
1 Corinthians 10:20
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20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
Proverbs 14:12
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12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
1 John 4:3
21st Century King James Version
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world.
2 John 9
21st Century King James Version
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
John 8:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
Mark 8
35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it.
John 8
51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
John 17
3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Acts 4
12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.”
James 1
21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
John 11:25-26
21st Century King James Version
25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live;
26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
John 6:68
21st Century King James Version
68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life,
Psalm 119:30
21st Century King James Version
30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me.
Psalm 119:11
21st Century King James Version
11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee.
Romans 12
2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
1 Corinthians 2:5
21st Century King James Version
5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God.
1 Peter 5:8
21st Century King James Version
8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
1 John 2:16-17
21st Century King James Version
16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
James 1:21
21st Century King James Version
21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
1 Corinthians 15:44
21st Century King James Version
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
21st Century King James Version
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ
John 3:18
21st Century King James Version
18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36
21st Century King James Version
36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
Luke 6:5
21st Century King James Version
5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.”
Matthew 22:29
21st Century King James Version
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 5:29
21st Century King James Version
29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 8:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
John 8:32
21st Century King James Version
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 6:40
21st Century King James Version
40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.”
Mark 13:13
21st Century King James Version
13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Revelation 14:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
John 8:36
21st Century King James Version
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Mark 13
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
As someone who is struggling with this topic it was really hard to hear. I'm sure I'll have to come back after I pray for my heart to be open and after I check your sources. I really appreciate your prayer at the end and your straightforward ministry. God Bless!
This comes down to how attentively you read v36-40, especially in context with v26 forward (and the whole chapter, in fact). The refutation view makes the most sense, but he reads the chapter and the verses in a weird and disconnected way, much like I did before I discovered the refutation view.
To believe that Paul is speaking to the women, you have to read "did the word of God originate only with you" etc as Paul claiming that the women were trying to portray themselves as the sole source of truth and teaching. This seems to be immediately contradicted by v37, which is addressed to males and not females. (This would mean that the Greek word thing is reinforcing a point against the men, btw. Paul wrote with an odd flow of thought, so I can't explain why he ordered it this way.) It seems to clearly be the case that he's speaking to men who believe that men are the sole source of truth and teaching.
Since the the Word originated from the Spirit, and not the prophets (as Peter said, meaning that an all the authors of scripture were men argument is irrelavant), women gifted by the Spirit to teach are validated by the Spirit.
Then you go to v39-40 then read similar to v37. Where Paul rebuked the spiritual gifts of the men by pointing out that his place as an Apostle is higher than whatever their gift is, he's likewise crouching the silencing of the women within the context of quenching the Spirit (forbidding tongues). v40 would then confirm that the problem wasn't women speaking, but speaking out of order, and that the right resolution for the problem isn't the v33-35 quote, but instead the checks and balance process that Paul lays out in the chapter.
As far as other verses that he brings up, like the head covering verse and the Genesis appeal verse: (1) This is a non-issue, since the issue in c14 is a specific circumstance, and c11 is much more general, so it's mixing two things that might overlap but that are two separate scenarios (and to support this, Winger's question can be flipped back on him: If these two scenarios are the same, and Paul already addressed it in c11, why is he cramming it into the tail end of c14 to address it again, where it seems out of context?); (2) 1 Timothy 2:14 should be viewed as a general principle, not as an absolute, as female prophets and leaders and wise women in the OT show that viewing it as an absolute is illogical.
Likewise, this 1 Corinthians 14 verse should be viewed as a refutation of the absolutist error. As Ecclesiastes says, the man who fears YHWH will avoid every extreme.
(Also, we shouldn't avoid the fact that Paul says some very stupid and illogical things in both 1 Cor 11 and 1 Tim 2. Head coverings somehow prevent the angels from being tempted by females and children will be saved through childbearing - these sound like very stupid rabbinical traditions that we shouldn't be following. As does 1 Cor 14:33-35, btw. 1 Tim even sounds like it probably comes from an apocryphal text that blames Eve from the Fall, when Paul put the fault on Adam in 1 Cor, so 1 Tim may not even have been written by Paul. Note that 1 Cor 11 is in a series of issues, where starting from v12 of c7, he switched from saying that he was speaking prophetically in v10 of c7 to saying that he was speaking of his own opinion from v12 forward. This is important because he says that women were made for men but men weren't made for women. That's horrendously wrong.)
@@blanktrigger8863 Angels tempted by females? Maybe be careful when you call someone called by God "stupid"
@@LackLuster2012 This comment doesn't disprove anything. That's one giant problem with piety, is that it looks like it's pro-Truth when isn't: Moses was called by YHWH and still did stupid things, including the false prophecy that got him banned from the Promised Land.
@@blanktrigger8863 He didn't enter because he disobeyed God by hitting the rock. I think you should be careful with the words you choose. And even at that I wouldn't call anyone stupid.
@@LackLuster2012 Yes, which was stupid (it was also part of a false prophecy, so it was also wicked). Not to mention he then blamed the Israelites for it. Which was also stupid and wicked.
Finished this video in 3 days... Chewing and taking in. Many doubts and wrong assumptions are cleared out. Thank you so much Mike for your dedication and sincere teaching. God bless you.
God bless you brother Pastor Mike.
Thank you for teaching so gently and truthfully, your guidance/teachings are a balm in a rebellious prideful world for those of us who truly hunger for solid biblical teaching, spiritual meat for those truly seeking to be in submission partnership and friendship with God Almighty, especially when conviction is occurring and welcomed.
I thank you and praise God for your ministry.
Thank you for your perseverance in pushing through to bring us this great teaching in spite of not yet being fully healed. I am very grateful for your willingness to plow ahead, take breaks when you need to, but then jump back in. Prayers for your full and SOON recovery. Thank you for your ministry!
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 21
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
Matthew 12
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.”
Romans 8:6
21st Century King James Version
6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace,
Luke 12:20
21st Century King James Version
20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’
1 Timothy 5:6
21st Century King James Version
6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
1 Corinthians 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 John 2:17
21st Century King James Version
17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Matthew 22:29
21st Century King James Version
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 8:51
21st Century King James Version
51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
2 John 9
21st Century King James Version
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
Titus 1:14
21st Century King James Version
14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.
2 Peter 3:18
21st Century King James Version
18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Romans 12:2
21st Century King James Version
2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Hebrews 9:24
21st Century King James Version
24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.
Colossians 2:10
21st Century King James Version
10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power,
Deuteronomy 6:14
21st Century King James Version
14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you
2 Corinthians 11:14
21st Century King James Version
14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
1 Corinthians 10:20
21st Century King James Version
20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
Proverbs 14:12
21st Century King James Version
12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
1 John 4:3
21st Century King James Version
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world.
2 John 9
21st Century King James Version
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
John 8:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
Mark 8
35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it.
John 8
51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
John 17
3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Acts 4
12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.”
James 1
21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
John 11:25-26
21st Century King James Version
25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live;
26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
John 6:68
21st Century King James Version
68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life,
Psalm 119:30
21st Century King James Version
30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me.
Psalm 119:11
21st Century King James Version
11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee.
Romans 12
2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
1 Corinthians 2:5
21st Century King James Version
5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God.
1 Peter 5:8
21st Century King James Version
8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
1 John 2:16-17
21st Century King James Version
16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
James 1:21
21st Century King James Version
21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
1 Corinthians 15:44
21st Century King James Version
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
21st Century King James Version
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ
John 3:18
21st Century King James Version
18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36
21st Century King James Version
36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
Luke 6:5
21st Century King James Version
5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.”
Matthew 22:29
21st Century King James Version
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 5:29
21st Century King James Version
29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 8:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
John 8:32
21st Century King James Version
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 6:40
21st Century King James Version
40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.”
Mark 13:13
21st Century King James Version
13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Revelation 14:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
John 8:36
21st Century King James Version
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Mark 13
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
I cried 😢 I am so relieved learning more teaching other women . I really restricted myself , I am so grateful to God for this video , teaching other women,
a woman from creations book store, Pam spoke to me about you 🙏 her family listens together ❤️
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 21
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
Matthew 12
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.”
Romans 8:6
21st Century King James Version
6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace,
Luke 12:20
21st Century King James Version
20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’
1 Timothy 5:6
21st Century King James Version
6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
1 Corinthians 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 John 2:17
21st Century King James Version
17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Matthew 22:29
21st Century King James Version
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 8:51
21st Century King James Version
51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
2 John 9
21st Century King James Version
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
Titus 1:14
21st Century King James Version
14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.
2 Peter 3:18
21st Century King James Version
18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Romans 12:2
21st Century King James Version
2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Hebrews 9:24
21st Century King James Version
24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.
Colossians 2:10
21st Century King James Version
10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power,
Deuteronomy 6:14
21st Century King James Version
14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you
2 Corinthians 11:14
21st Century King James Version
14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
1 Corinthians 10:20
21st Century King James Version
20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
Proverbs 14:12
21st Century King James Version
12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
1 John 4:3
21st Century King James Version
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world.
2 John 9
21st Century King James Version
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
John 8:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
Mark 8
35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it.
John 8
51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
John 17
3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Acts 4
12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.”
James 1
21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
John 11:25-26
21st Century King James Version
25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live;
26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
John 6:68
21st Century King James Version
68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life,
Psalm 119:30
21st Century King James Version
30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me.
Psalm 119:11
21st Century King James Version
11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee.
Romans 12
2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
1 Corinthians 2:5
21st Century King James Version
5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God.
1 Peter 5:8
21st Century King James Version
8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
1 John 2:16-17
21st Century King James Version
16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
James 1:21
21st Century King James Version
21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
1 Corinthians 15:44
21st Century King James Version
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
21st Century King James Version
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ
John 3:18
21st Century King James Version
18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36
21st Century King James Version
36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
Luke 6:5
21st Century King James Version
5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.”
Matthew 22:29
21st Century King James Version
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 5:29
21st Century King James Version
29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 8:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
John 8:32
21st Century King James Version
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 6:40
21st Century King James Version
40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.”
Mark 13:13
21st Century King James Version
13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Revelation 14:12
21st Century King James Version
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
John 8:36
21st Century King James Version
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Mark 13
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
You're the only guy I've seen discussing these passages and topics in calm way 🤣🤣 conservative extremists and liberals should learn from your behavior
Edit- man all liberals are extremists so i don't need to repeat the word for them. It's sARcAsm 😆😆
So true. No matter what you believe, it always goes down the drain when you let your emotions take over while discussing topics.
I appreciate Mike and love to learn from him. I learn from others with similar deliveries as well. They are out there.
I thank God for teachers like Mike. For a new Christian the temperament and genuine concern he displays is always a wonderful example I pray I can learn to emulate in my every move. I ask God daily to continue to work on my heart and my harshness so I may be more like my brothers and sisters who approach the Word and their fellow man with love and compassion.
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Thank you for posting this, I'm still working my way through it. I married a man who returned to Christianity after a 20 year break so I've laughed at these verses thinking about how they would apply to us. After 12 years of marriage, I'm finally seeing. It's not that I come home from church and ask him questions to be taught, it's that we debate the answer together.
The Bible does not say to debate
The Bible says if you have questions ask your husband at home
1 Timothy 2:12
Woman are not permitted to exercise authority or teach a man
rather she is to remain in peace
The Bible says clearly woman are under men
It was Eve who sinned and gave eat to Adam to eat
That is why we under submission of man
@@dawnmcknight3890 😝🤪😂
Adam sinned knowingly. Don’t forget that. Eve should have asked God when Satan lied to her. She was deceived the Bible says. Adam did know and sinned in knowledge, knowing the truth full well . Eve sinned but not in the same deliberate knowledge as she was deceived. She ought to have asked God instead of taking the serpents word over Gods Word. But because her sin was not with full knowledge (or deliberate as Adams was...) ,she was given the privilege of carrying the future Redeemer. Adam was guiltiest because he was not deceived. The Bible says “in Adam all die”, not Eve. “But in Christ”(the Bible calls Him the second Adam)”shall all be made alive”. Adam was the head of Eve and Christ is the Head of the Church. Praise God for the wonderful redemption story!
Adam trusted her tho, it's simply her fault, can't change that and never will @@rebeccashannon3080
Exactly. It's called "Adams fall" for a reason. He was literally standing right there and did nothing.
I find it illuminating that you take three hours to explain the plain meaning of the text. Let me help: Women should be silent in church. The fact that this (difficult to accept} misogyny has to be so painfully renegotiated to be made acceptable under our current cultural morals pretty much tells the tale. That said, appreciate your work.
Part 11
PAUL STATES THAT WOMEN SHOULD BE SILENT
As in all the churches of the saints, the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.
-excerpt 1 Corinthians 14
In this matter Paul speaks of the 'law'. There is a small possibility that he is
referring to a Roman or local law. If not, then Paul is stating that women were
still under the Old Covenant laws.
Yet there was no Old Covenant law that states that women should be silent.
Then the daughters of Zelophehad...came forward. They stood before Moses, before Eleazar the priest, before the leaders, and all the congregation at the entrance of the tent of meeting, saying, “Our father died in the wilderness, yet he was not among the group of those who gathered together against the Lord, in the group of Korah; but he died in his own sin, and he had no sons. Why should the name of our father be withdrawn from among his family simply because he had no son? Give us property among our father’s brothers.” So Moses brought their case before the Lord. Then the Lord said to Moses, “The daughters of Zelophehad are right about their statements. You shall certainly give them hereditary property among their father’s brothers...
-excerpts Numbers 27
These women were not rebuked, even though they spoke before everyone, including Moses.
What they asked for was granted to them, because God agreed with them.
Only 3 hours 😮 Mike your slacking JK I love the long teaching. Thanks so much for all you do 💛
When you speak of people trying to remove or discredit passages of scripture - 47:16 "I react by holding on even stronger to those passages" I agree whole heartedly, brother and I apply this in regards to Mark 16: 9-20. Keep up the great work, I love you Mike.
To be fair, that passage isn't being questioned because it's inconvenient to a worldview. It's in question because of some of the earliest manuscript evidence. It's not the same kind of "removal". It's a question of whether it was in the originals or added later.
@@1pecwonder It may not have been in the original, but does that mean it is not inspired?
3 hours of wonderful and inciteful information! Thanks so much! I havent watched the whole video just yet, but thisnis great! Thank you!
As a woman who’s recently came back to Christ, this series is very informative and thank you for it! I wanted to add a few sentiments as an ex feminist rebellious woman to reach the culture today. Our society today breaks my heart because I’m 30 with 3 children & I only know maybe 4 women from my high school days with children. I think our society and culture have both historical missteps and failings in this area that have impacted today so greatly. I was a rebellious spirit because I loathed mass hypocrisy in church and I falsely blamed God. I think today we have to address the rebellious with compassion and understanding, but the church in general should always be condemning false pastors and teachings, addressing hypocrisy or materialism in the churches. Leading by example of course instead of once weekly hour meetings, there should be intermingling and ministry to the world like the first right? When feminism was growing, I think the church generally didn’t handle it very well. It would seem historically some abused the word of women submitting and used it to excuse ungodly behavior. This creates a deep resentment as rules for thee not for me, or higher standards and punishments and societal consequences for sin for women was a real problem. I saw it even in late 90s in church, such as when young unmarried women became pregnant they suffered the burden of sin and judgement far worse. I think to move forward and hope to create a desire for understanding of gender roles, we have to go to the root of how feminism developed, why was there a void in the first place for it to fill? I came to understand feminism was a elite driven standpoint designed to debt slave both parents at the demise of the children and family, and had we gone back and addressed the cries of women then in a loving and healthy way, we could have fostered, appreciated, and nurtured female abilities and values their roles as nurturers with far better outcomes. When we aren’t all following Christ first, it is as hard as it is to find a godly woman to submit to male authority these days I would also say it’s very hard to find a man with wisdom and godliness that’s deserving of such authority today. Women have shown they CAN do many things men do and are overperforming men in certain fields today, but instead of simply being angry at the feminist woke maybe we should be discussing positively in retrospect how culturally humanity could have improved the quality of life in the past and appropriately foster gender roles and positive differences for women. Obviously women home with children is far better for children and families as if today doesn’t demonstrate that well enough. The other issue today with careers and gender roles is that men and women have many equal ish performance office jobs whereas historically many men performed jobs that were intensely laborious or dangerous for longer hours, highlighting the sacrifices men make to provide. Statistics today do show that even if both father and mother work full time fathers perform 30% of household duties or child rearing when home. I personally just desire a man who I know does have wisdom and ethics that leads by example and does place God first. And genuinely leads his children and wife with word not simply leads because of his gender first but espouses they duties of that leadership. And women obviously need to stop trying to be men, they’ve shown they can perform certain things just as well, yet at the cost of our children and men collectively! This should highlight for feminists the immensely valuable role women have as nurturers in society and equal significance their separate roles always had! Let these decades be a learning moment for us all, and reevaluate the role of women not to be “in their place” so to speak, but value their different roles and offerings as equally as we value mens ❤❤ and if we place God first always in all things I think we have much less room to fail.
Wow, thank you so much for your vulnerability and advice. That was incredibly well spoken! Praise God for how He has transformed and used you!
Wow. This was written beautifully. ❤️🔥🤺🙏
Amen sister!
This is wonderful. I wish someone like you could speak to my fiancé, she is very much a victim of modern feminism.
She is extremely hardworking and intelligent and goes to an elite STEM university that is majority men. She also comes from a background where women were always treated as less than, especially in a marital context as her parents have a very Biblically warped relationship.
She knows the models she had growing up were terrible, but still rejects the complimentary view because in her mind, men and women can occupy the same roles in the work force, therefore it makes no sense why they can’t at home or especially church.
She thinks it belittles and undervalues women and gives women little reason to be enthusiastic.
She also thinks a complimentary view is a hotbed of abuse because her Dad uses the Bible as justification to abuse her mom, and excuse the behavior of other men, but never women.
The women she surrounds herself with are all secular feminist types, which complicates things….
Wow thank you for the kind replies everyone that’s very sweet ❤️ I’m glad it resonated!
Yes, thank you Mike for being a huge blessing to contributing to those who are studying the Bible. Personally your videos have been a huge help for me on some debatable topics and I have more confidence on standing my ground knowing I’m not alone when I disagree on secondary issues with local leaders. Your videos are so helpful!
Amen to that! These teachings particularly in this series! Thanks for being so very thorough!!
It is interesting, the video only came out 6 hours ago, it is 3 hours long and you comment 6 hours ago. Don't care if you are pro/con, just seems a bit curious you have to be commenting on something you have no clue about the points that might be bad... Just seems like teacher worship...
1 Cor 3:4) For when one person says, “I am with Paul,” and another, “I am with Apollos,” are you not ordinary people? 5) What then is Apollos? And what is Paul
@@dand4485 yeah it's not like 99% of his content was uploaded over 24 hours ago when the comment was made XD
@@dand4485 My comment was about his other content, I haven’t had the time to listen through this exact video. I comment on his newest video in hopes he reads it and if not then that’s okay. Let it be a blessing to another!
@@bannedbear6894 Exactly my point, your comment(s) should be on this video as the comment is on this video?
I appreciate this series so much! I’m greatly anticipating the next video in this series. It’s the passage I question the most
I am an introvert, so from walking into the church building on Sunday morning to walking out, saying zero words is no problem for me.
Haha God bless ya 😂
Same!
I doubt that's what is meant by "be silent" by Paul. After all, he worked alongside female and men leaders, *and* was aware of female and male Christians prophesying at gatherings.
Well...the there are a lot of introverted women who ARE called by God to speak in church! Many, many - and they usurp no one's authority!
@@overthinkingchristian8732 I don't. It's clear. Keep silent, not permitted to speak, be in submission... There is no way to twist this to mean something else. You either believe the Bible or not.
Finally made it to the end! And oh my goodness, these verses were a problem for me for so long, most because yes, they were taken out of context. Thank you.
Yup. A lot of issues I've had with doctrine was fixed once everything was placed in context, both biblically and historically! Glad his video helped!
Thank you Pastor Mike for this series. I've watched all of it (1- 11) and have learned a great deal about the different egalitarian perspectives, how they are not really in sync with scripture, and how the Bible more naturally supports complementarian views where men and women are equal in value but not roles. The culture of today is going against God's word, which isn't surprising, so I think we need to be equipped with knowledge of the Bible to be able to talk to Christians who push these unbiblical egalitarian narratives in our churches.
I just realized that you're using that numerical display on your bookshelf to indicate which section you're in 😆
This series is one of the most informative and enjoyable things I've come across on the internet. Thank you!
He uses it in 20 questions also. It was really helpful back when there were no chapters.
I've been wondering about that counter for almost 2 hours now, plus in a previous video. lol
Ngl, I had no idea what it was meant for lol
So thankful for this series! So many of my questions have been answered here! Bless you , P. Mike, and your team :)
They are not supposed to stand behind the pulpit and preach in the church and that is truly Clear all glory to Jesus christ amen 🙏 ❤
I found this video very helpful!! Especially when you explained the logical contradiction of thinking the Corinthian church was both disorderly concerning prophecy and was also silencing women- that hadn't occurred to me. Definitely going to think about these things more.
I'm looking forward to your next video about the letter to Timothy! The argument I've struggled with in that passage is the meaning/connotation of the word for authority. The argument basically says the passage indicates that women shouldn't teach men in a domineering way. I hope you cover that, and considering how detailed these videos are, I'm certain that it's already on your radar.
On a fairly unrelated note, I woke up to two tires going flat, but they were still under warranty and I had your video to watch while they worked on them, so I was a happy camper 😅 As always, I'm very thankful to hear how you think through these issues. Thank you for your thoughtful work, Mike!
Sorry to hear about your tires, Sara. I was in not exactly the same, but similar situation where I had to wait on a tow truck. I was really frustrated until I pulled up Winger! The tow truck arrived about 2 hours later and I could have happily sat there listening for another 2. Such amazing insight into God’s word makes you crave it!
Just here to say that I had to ‘tap to unmute’ to watch this with audio, and I giggled 🤭 But seriously, thank you again Mike for producing such a comprehensive resource on this topic.
Thank you for your words of encouragement my dear brother in Christ. Here's one of the sister had a revelation in 2020 and finally made the decision last year in April and that decision upset many people and I got passive aggressive reactions and many shunned me. Praying for one day God open their eyes to see and understand. Keep moving forward and honor God, God bless your ministry 🙏
It’s always a good day when there’s a new video from Mike. ❤ Let’s dive in…
over 10 hours of teaching in just two videos? im loving it, keep it up pastor mike
Proud of you mainly for answering questions that aren’t always simple to answer. Proud of you and from personal experience you don’t wake up one morning with answers, rather through life’s treasures and studying Gods precious Word. God Bless you Mike and so heart warming to know young people love you. Again Proud of you!
Sincerely, Howard
Back here even in the midst of rising Feminism, there are those of us that find great comfort in just knowing that His thoughts are good! Trust is the key word! Thank you so very much Pastor Mike
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 21
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
Matthew 12
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.”
Romans 8:6
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6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace,
Luke 12:20
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20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’
1 Timothy 5:6
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6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
1 Corinthians 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 John 2:17
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17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Matthew 22:29
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29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 8:51
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51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
2 John 9
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9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
Titus 1:14
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14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.
2 Peter 3:18
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18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Romans 12:2
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2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Hebrews 9:24
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24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.
Colossians 2:10
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10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power,
Deuteronomy 6:14
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14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you
2 Corinthians 11:14
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14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
1 Corinthians 10:20
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20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
Proverbs 14:12
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12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
1 John 4:3
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3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world.
2 John 9
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9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
John 8:12
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12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
Mark 8
35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it.
John 8
51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
John 17
3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Acts 4
12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.”
James 1
21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
John 11:25-26
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25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live;
26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
John 6:68
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68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life,
Psalm 119:30
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30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me.
Psalm 119:11
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11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee.
Romans 12
2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
1 Corinthians 2:5
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5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God.
1 Peter 5:8
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8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
1 John 2:16-17
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16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
James 1:21
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21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
1 Corinthians 15:44
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44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
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9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ
John 3:18
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18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36
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36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
Luke 6:5
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5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.”
Matthew 22:29
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29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 5:29
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29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 8:12
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12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
John 8:32
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32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 6:40
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40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.”
Mark 13:13
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13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Revelation 14:12
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12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
John 8:36
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36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Mark 13
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
Why are we demonising feminism?
There are different schools of feminism so one needs to be specific in their critique here
75 year old widow here...the older I get, the more I see the wisdom of your view.
I'm really excited to dive into this. I was taught that women weren't supposed to be chattering in church, distracting others basically. And when they did feel called to speak in church they should do so under the covering and guidance/approval of their husband. Like if their was a woman teacher, her husband otta be senior pastor and backing up what she says etc. This view was never explained thoroughly to me so I'm excited I found this and can hear your teaching on the matter. I find a lot of fulfillment in serving my husband and family but i feel my counseling/nurturing nature isnt completely used up by them and I have leftover to give. Although I'd never want to counsel men, just women and children. I love your style of teaching and it really helps me
I love that God has given you an overflow of love and gifts 💕
I try to make a habit of, metaphorically, placing a text that i don't understand on a shelf that is higher than me; expecting to more easily access it when I grow in spiritual understanding.
Thanks to Mike I've reached another shelf! 😊
Good metaphor.
Good attitude!
That is an awesome metaphors! And extremely helpful. Thank you for sharing:)
I love that, because we will not understand everything at once, very smart move.
@@AngelRamirez-zv6qp who hurt you? 😥
This compiling video was great! Thanks for stitching these similar together for the sake of a whole teaching, slightly exhausted. 🙏🏽♥️
Blessings Pastor Mike. Whew…what a loaded topic, and definitely controversial. I grew up in a Sabbath-keeping Church and women could sing in the choir and even perform solos in giving HONOR and GLORY to GOD, during Worship services. Women could be ordained as a deaconess, helping serve and teach other women in the Church. But, women were NEVER allowed to speak from the pulpit.
Even though GOD has guided me down a different path, today, I still find it difficult to actually listen to a woman teaching from behind the pulpit and even in “Prophecy” Conferences.
Thanks 🙏 for continuing to teach as GOD inspires you. I feel blessed by your teachings of GODS HOLY WORD.
Blessings, in JESUS HOLY NAME. Amen.
I suggest my short essay on Deborah. A Judge
was the most important spiritual leader during
that time period.
So the viewpoint that women couldn’t sing in worship…? The church I grew up in was solid until after I graduated high school and then over the next few years, it just got so weirdly legalistic. My mom was the church pianist and they reached a point where they wouldn’t even allow her to play in church (unless MAYBE) at the back of the church because the play at the front would be a distraction and make her the focus. Seriously, they moved the piano to the back of the sanctuary. Playing piano was how she served. Once they took that away, she didn’t know what to do anymore. Thankfully, they left that church and even MORE thankfully, all the members of that church eventually saw how they were wrong. It took years and years, but God showed them their errors.
Wow! 😟That makes me sad...and slightly depressed. Her presence was deemed a distraction. This sounds like the religions where a woman has to be covered from head to toe, except for her eyes. There was even a guy in the comment section here that didn't want a woman sitting in the front row. It really does paint men in a negative light. We live in a sinful world.
Things that push people out into the world again. Sorry this happened to your family.
@ thankfully, none of us went back into the world. We were pretty secure in what we know and believe about God. But I have seen this in others.
I definitely understand why the church didn't want women to have any role at all, they clearly just took what Paul said a bit too literally. But yeah, even most anti-women priest churches would at least have women in some position even if at a lower level like singing and children watching. It is very easy to think that all women should literally be silent in the church no matter what, I don't blame churches for thinking Paul literally meant that. It doesn't make that church right and it is sad, but I honestly get why it went down the path that it did. (I'm an egalitarian)
Mike, I applaud your thoroughness on the subject. You have an amazing amount of patience to wade through all of the material and refute these arguments with grace, seasoned with salt. I pray that this work bears good fruit. Keep it up.
Just Got to say Mike, thank you so much for the thorough, and very thoughtful work you do to Help those of us with lesser understanding of the scriptures to get these things right. I really appreciate it and you have already helped me so much in my walk and I only found ur channel a couple months ago.
May God Bless You and your family.
When your phone goes off in church. You think, "it better be God calling". Notification for a Mike Winger video, that will do.
Dude, same with me. It just happened. 😆 LOL.
I remember being at church and a woman had her granddaughter’s phone which rang during communion. Unfortunately the ringtone was from Sir MixALot…
Just tell your pastor you have a word from the Lord. Must be God's timing!
@@James-ms2mx lol
Mine went off one year in a service around Christmas and a preacher stopped his sermon and said every time a bell rings a angel gets his wings 😆
Also, the total silence view is more common than you might thing in practice. Many churches in John MacArthur circles would say they don’t believe in total silence but also prohibit female deacons, females leading worship, praying in services, and doing announcements (except maybe for womens events). The reasoning I was given was to “avoid a slippery slope”.
Very common.
I was brought up in a very Bible focused church. Very Gospel. I sat under a lot of good biblical teaching. It was all given by men - unless it was a women's meeting - and I sat in silence wearing my hat. No praying out loud, no making announcements. Definitely no prophesying! No one ever explained the contradiction between women nit being allowed to pray out loud and ch11.
@@alisonjanespink7735 that's sad. Yeah, it's more common than people think, and there needs to be push back against it from other complementarians
@@CT-316 Indeed! Not in that kind of church anymore. On the upside I've been left with a good legacy of biblical knowledge so not all was a negative.
Yeah, this is a really common view and a lot of women aren't necessarily struggling with feminism, but struggling with really really bad applications of complementarianism. Its hurt a lot of women. I think more women are driven to egalatarianism because of bad, harmful, unbiblical versions and applications of complementarianism than they are by feminism. Women in many complementarian circles have been greatly devalued by well meaning men in their church who miss the complementarianism in complementarianism. Ha. The assumption that egalitarians and complementarian women who struggle with these passages are all just feminism isn't fair or nuanced. The truth is, well meaning men undervalue the women in their churches all the time and it a real challenge. This is not all complementarian churches, but neither is this uncommon.
I'm praying for breana and very glad she chose to share this journey. Thank you Cadence for being so open and caring . God will meet you where you are.
There are certainly many views of this issue. People may disagree whether Paul's instructions on church government are applicable today or not. In the end, the Lord will decide and bless (or not) according to his will.
But differing on this issue is a secondary matter. We are to love and fellowship with other believers no matter where they stand on it.
What matters is the simple gospel: Jesus is Savior and Lord, he is risen, he will come again.
Mike, I think when we read and interpret these teachings, what we find has its starting point at our heart' s desires. As a women, I've have to ask myself, "what is it I am looking for here?" Am I reactionary to some past slight or abuse of these teachings? Or have I quieted my heart before my maker, and grown in my desire to become what He designed me to be, joyfully. It is an honor to be His daughter. It is His design. As I see the picture of Christ and the Church, what a privilege to project that image to this lost world. When I see Christ , who had all the fullness of Deity, humble Himself, this is a small thing. I pray I can grow in this attitude.
When I read Luke 2:51 how Jesus also submitted to his (human) parents, I had to pause and take it in.
I think the opportunity some people use these teachings for SATIRE.. AND GOD HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR...... BUT SOME PEOPLE ONLY REACT TO THE CYNICISM IN THEIR COMEDY ! ITS A TOUGH SUBJECT TO BROACH AND REMAIN " POLITICALLY CORRECT " OR NOT GIVE OFFENSE TOO SOMEONE. GOD LOVES US ALL AND WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT THE FOOT OF HIS CROSS....... GETS LOST IN OUR MESSAGE
The thoroughness of your study is both refreshing and helpful. Thank you.
Let’s GOOOOO!
Been waiting for this one!!
Thanks Pastor Mike!
All throughout the Old Testament God is very upset with rigid religious people that are seemingly doing certain instructions that he commanded but are missing the more important matters n the law(to protect the oppressed,poor, and helpless). This type of teaching needs to be absolutely correct not just I think this and I think that, because you influence a lot of people and this belief system can harm and oppress women that are not in ideal situations.
Hi Pastor Mike 😁 I just want to say thank you for the work you've done to release all these videos about women in ministry! I hope you'll finish the rest of them!! 😊
Many women have husbands who have not developed their own biblical knowledge very deeply.
She can pursue knowledge. But the option provided (ask their husbands at home) might not be any kind of option. This is confusing still. It’s not a simple manifestation of feminist backlash, but a genuine question.
It's not confusing at all, that's why scripture advises women to marry a godly/Christ-like man, so if you marry a man that is lacking spiritually, that is your cross to 🐻.
In addition, If your husband is spiritually lacking you can consult your pastor.
@@cisuminocisumino3250 interesting answer
@@cisuminocisumino3250 One point for your consideration - not all women are saved when they enter marriage. They become Christians later. They do not have the benefit of the warning of being equally yoked.
Women may have this cross to bear, fair enough.
But many church going men will be accountable one day for their own lack of spiritual maturity. This matters greatly, as it affects more than the man himself, rather his whole family and the church as well.
They won't be off the hook for their apathy.
@@laurakosch
*" One point for your consideration. Not all women are saved when they enter marriage. They become Christians later on."*
If they're partner isn't spiritually mature they should consult they're local pastor or teachers.
*"But many men will be accountable for their own lack of spiritual maturity."*
They're many church going men, doesn't make them Christ-like, that's why Paul insists that women marry men that reflect the nature of Christ.
Everybody will be accountable for their own lack of spiritual maturity.
@@cisuminocisumino3250
Thanks
A great series Mike and I really appreciate the depth to which you've done the research on this topic. I guess we're still looking for your podcast on 1st Timothy 2. Any idea on when we can expect that one?
First time viewer and this. Was. FANTASTIC 🎉 Thank you for this wise, kind, biblical commentary
Mike, please include in your next video if it’s biblical for women to work as Chaplains such as in hospitals or the Military or even some business or community environments. A chaplains role is often much more of a counseling, spiritual advisement in pluralistic environments so could often even be viewed (in my opinion) as an evangelistic role. Thank you for these, you have no idea how grateful I am and timely these are for me.
Good question
I would love to have a woman chaplain. As a woman in the hospital wearing just a gown and feeling vulnerable I think a woman visiting me would be more comfortable and appropriate.
@@salvadaXgracia what you're comfortable with doesn't equate to what is and isn't appropriate. The hypothetical situation you described isn't common place of interaction for a Hospital Chaplain.
chaplain
chăp′lĭn
noun
A member of the clergy attached to a chapel.
A member of the clergy who conducts religious services for an institution, such as a prison or hospital.
A lay person who is appointed to provide spiritual leadership and counseling to members of an institution, as at a university.
Chaplains fall under qualified male leadership within the Church and is attached to a place where The Church and World intersect and interact. Hospitals, Prisons, Military Units, Fire Fighters, Aviaton industry to just name a few.... It is undoubtedly in the same category as Pastors, Preachers, Teachers. They teach The Word and are accountable to its proper application and instruction for others. Its an Office with qualifications. And not everyone will be qualified...including other men.
@@shenanigansofmannanan I am talking about someone who would visit a sick woman or a woman who recently gave birth in her hospital room. It happens all the time.
My FIRST introduction into women in the church was through the idea that we must "reverse the curse" and the QRD / interpolation argument of these verses. I was a blank slate. I thought that those arguments were sound, but (now that I'd no longer call myself a baby Christian), I'm so excited to learn more and dig into this passage further.
Agreed! I think women should be priests, but trying to reverse thinking like this is some kind of college class isn't a good way to go about it. There are way better arguments out there, oh also most women priests aren't progressive which is probably why reverse thinking is rare in actual real churches.
my home church has been slowly moving away from an implicit, unofficial silence view (no women doing announcements/on stage during the service except for music). It's been an interesting culture shift! Thank you for taking the time to really dig in!
The world tries to rid us of the men and women roles at home, in the family, and at church. We must be different than the world and follow scripture.
22:33🤓
Thank you Pastor Mike for taking care with this topic. As a woman I will gladly keep silent if it honors my Lord Jesus Christ. Indeed, how we love God’s Word.
It doesn't honor Jesus to be oppressed by evil men.
@@bkucenski referring to yourself?
@@Vitamortis. good, try. Ask your mom for a cookie and five more minutes on the internet
@@bkucenski lol me having an opposing viewpoint and using lame humor = me being 9 years old?
Me too. Whatever God says I’ll obey.
I've really appreciated this series so much, thank you so much for all your diligent work, Mike! Any chance we'll get the videos on 1 Timothy and real life application?
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
John 3:18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 21
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee fornication. Every other sin which a man doeth is outside the body, but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
Matthew 12
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.”
Romans 8:6
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6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace,
Luke 12:20
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20 But God said unto him, ‘Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee. Then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?’
1 Timothy 5:6
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6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
1 Corinthians 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 John 2:17
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17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Matthew 22:29
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29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 8:51
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51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
2 John 9
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9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
Titus 1:14
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14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.
2 Peter 3:18
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18 But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Romans 12:2
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2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Hebrews 9:24
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24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.
Colossians 2:10
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10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power,
Deuteronomy 6:14
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14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people who are round about you
2 Corinthians 11:14
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14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
1 Corinthians 10:20
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20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
Proverbs 14:12
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12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
1 John 4:3
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3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already it is in the world.
2 John 9
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9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son.
John 8:12
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12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
Mark 8
35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it.
John 8
51 Verily, verily I say unto you, if a man keep My saying, he shall never see death.”
John 17
3 And this is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.
1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Acts 4
12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.”
James 1
21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
John 11:25-26
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25 Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live;
26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
John 6:68
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68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life,
Psalm 119:30
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30 I have chosen the way of truth; Thy judgments have I laid before me.
Psalm 119:11
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11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee.
Romans 12
2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
1 Corinthians 2:5
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5 that your faith should not stand on the wisdom of man, but on the power of God.
1 Peter 5:8
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8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
1 John 2:16-17
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16 For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
James 1:21
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21 Therefore lay apart all filthiness and the superfluity of wickedness, and receive with meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls.
1 Corinthians 15:44
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44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
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9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ
John 3:18
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18 “He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36
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36 He that believeth in the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
Luke 6:5
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5 And He said unto them, “The Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath.”
Matthew 22:29
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29 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
John 5:29
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29 and shall come forth - they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 8:12
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12 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, “I am the Light of the world. He that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
John 8:32
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32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 6:40
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40 And this is the will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.”
Mark 13:13
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13 And ye shall be hated by all men for My name’s sake; but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Revelation 14:12
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12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
John 8:36
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36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Mark 13
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
Understand that if we follow that in the way they did then , than we woman would have to wear clothing like they do in Iran and or the Middle East….
The woman do not even hang out with their man at all.. ❤
We follow the Bible regardless where it leads.
It’s seems like there are a ton of intelligent sounding ways for someone to talk themselves out of what the Bible clearly says.
I feel like you glossed over the literalist view by saying it’s out of context, but failed to explain what exactly Paul was meaning when he put the clear instructions in the verses .
Thank you Pastor Mike 😊 for your time I'm preparation and delivery of this.
This is the perfect post for a Sunday.
Cant wait to tell my wife, so I have to sleep on the couch tonight.
🤣
@@t.yaw51 update: I told my wife I was designating our house as a church so everyone has to be quiet.
I got a raised eyebrow.
(Btw, although this really happened, it was done in jest and we had a good laugh)
I’m glad my original comment wasn’t taken seriously either because I was joking… although I’m sure someone will comment with something sassy.
@@moosechuckle with something sassy
Something sassy
Well, the thing is the women in the Church way back then were a standard to be measured by thanks to Pentecost. Plus, they had to contend with outsiders aka pagans that could perhaps influence the women to backslide😁
Thank you Mike for not responding with stock, poorly researched, confirmation bias responses on this and all of your topics.
Biblical truth seekers appreciate and highly value this.
Thank you
Wow! I just finished the entire video. I grew up in a conservative setting where all of the women wore head coverings not only in church but also during everyday life. My wife and I have changed our views some from the way that we were both raised. I very much appreciate your openness, respect for the word, the humility in which you represented your stance and the respect for brothers that have opposing views. You confirmed my current position in many ways and also made me realize that there were some opinions on this passage that I had never even heard of! It's interesting that you mentioned near the end the idea if Eve wore a head covering... I had never thought of that until recently and then you brought it up near the end of your video. As of right now our position is that the head covering should be worn in the assembly while praying or prophesying. Food for thought: what about places like Africa where the women's hair naturally is hardly any longer than the men's... How does that play into this? Thank you brother, and God bless you!
Thank you for your careful study and clear teaching. It seems so obvious now, but was previously a difficult passage for many of us.
After this series I would like you to do a study on spiritual gifts, specifically tongues and prophecy. None of the churches I've been part of have used them. Yet, I can't find any convincing Biblical evidence for cessationism. We've often heard the horror stories of how these gifts are misused, and those are used as justification for why we don't practice them...
I just don't understand how we can ignore such a clear verse as 1 Cor 14:39. I've been praying for clarity on this issue. I know that you will be able to teach the proper way to use the gifts.
@Benjamin Brooks. full disclosure that I am a practicing charismatic and a woman. I also have a theory that the Holy Spirit is sometimes quenched by people/groups that are unwilling to deal with the full implications of two areas of truth: 1. the full Biblical role of the Holy Spirit. 2. The full Biblical role of women in the Church
I grew up in cessationist churches and it’s been encouraging to be apart of a church that believes in the gifts and uses them, even though I do still have a lot of caution and fear of misuse.
It’s sad that we’ve let fear stop us from experiencing the power and gifts of God. There’s misuse of everything, very clearly people mistook communion in the scriptures, leading to sickness and death, and I myself have wrongfully taken at times. But it’s still something we continue doing, and rightfully so, because it’s Holy! Perverting good things isn’t new and we shouldn’t let evil keep us from doing good. 🙏🏻 learning and growing in this myself and hope the Lord will teach and grow you also! Don’t be afraid to get around Christians who use the spiritual gifts, they may be able to teach you something and encourage your faith 🙌🏻
Love love love how thorough your approach is in this video. It’s fair and respectful of alternative views. We’ll done, Mike!
I'm glad that you are going over this without yelling at me, the words are just as strong.
Great stuff! At 2:52:11 I think Mike meant to say, “So women were not supposed to have the office of ELDER” but accidentally said “prophet.”
I was also wondering about that & also think he meant to say elder 👍
I believe that if it’s in the Bible it’s supposed to be there. There is no question or many interpretations of it. It’s there for a reason. As far as I’m concerned there isn’t even any room for discussion. Women can teach. In fact I have learned a lot and studied the Bible with a woman. But it says not from the pulpit. No teaching in church. Don’t see a problem with it.
I think one really important thing to ask here is what LAW is Paul talking about when he says "as even the law says". This isnt in scripture so it is definitely referring to a law outside of the bible.
Many bible translations put "as in all the churches of the saints" in the previous sentence which makes perfect sense about God being a God of peace in all the churches of the saints. We are missing a lot of context here, almost 2000 years ago Paul spoke to a church in their culture.. they probably knew exactly what law Paul was talking about. The Greek doesnt have punctuation like our english so cannot confirm what is a quote through punctuation. What we do know is that this is very very specific and it has nothing to do with women prophesying or using their giftings in the church because only a few verses earlier Paul instructs everyone, brothers and sisters to each bring their gifts to be used in the congregation. Translations that just say brothers are misleading, because the Greek word just means siblings. Paul gave the assignment in this chapter and the previous 3 chapters on everyone using their gifts for the benefit of everyone in the church and no one is to say to another "we dont need you". But today in a lot of churches men are basically telling half the church... we dont need your preaching and teaching gifts, when Paul specifically says multiple times that everyones gifts are essential in the building up of the WHOLE body, not just half of it. Paul also explains that prophecy is the greatest gift to desire to have for the benefit of the church. Teaching and preaching may not include prophecy, but prophecy often includes preaching and teaching. There is overlap with some of these words. To say prophets didnt preach or teach when they prophesied is simply ignoring the facts. When Jesus ministered and preached he was regarded as a prophet. What did John the Baptist do? He preached to people in the wilderness. He was a prophet with followers who learned from him. He prepared the way for Jesus by preaching and teaching. A prophet did more than preach and teach, a prophet often spoke direct messages from God. The fact that Paul instructed women how to go about prophesying in the church should really dispel the need for us to try to make these scriptures exclude women from doing what they have been told to do in scripture. Paul repeatedly describes prophecy as higher and more important than preaching and teaching in Corinthians 11-14. People get so caught up splitting hairs. Theres nothing more authoritative someone can do than prophesy!! There's no greater gifting apart from being an apostle, and there are no longer apostles. It makes no logical sense for a woman to be able to use the highest gift, but not the lesser ones, especially considering the amount of times and ways Paul tells women to do the exact opposite throughout 1 Corinthians 11-14. If you want to know more check out the video featured on my channel.
Soon we will have more Content on this Channel, than all of Netflix 😅
This content is certainly more helpful than what's on Netflix.
@@Getoutofthewoods absolutely. Anything is more helpful than satanic programming and mind control 🤷🏻♂️
I wish there were 2 videos on this. I have no expectation of
watching all this.
One video, everything.
One video, 3 minutes on each idea. So
Such a good way to spend Sunday evening!!
Brother, this is high-quality work! Well done.
Thank you Pastor Mike! I have some things to take to the Lord. Praying for the fog brain to lift.. I am still dealing with it after a year. Your message was not a easy one so please give yourself a break😊
Love and Peace, your Sister in the faith.
After Jesus resurrected, he showed himself to a woman, not the fearful doubting men!
The woman was also fearful and doubting. She assumed Jesus was still dead and asked the "gardener" where his body was.
Doesn’t change the passage
Thank you so much for going over this. As a pastor 15-20 sermon does not cover what people need to know.
My old Pastor said Paul was talking about One Woman, not women. Paul was educated and knew about the story of Deborah, knew she was a leader.
I'm a silent prophet. The best times when people are ready to hear a prophecy I can feel it. Most people have their ears shut from dogmatic teachings :( I suffer silently because I watch others go through things that I knew they shouldn't have if they were only able to hear. I'm a woman so that means there's even more dogma against me. I'm also an imperfect person tempted with the daily issue of impatience. It's so weird how people can really cling to their sin. Even myself. When I read the verses of the Bible, I see it crystal clear when it's the appropriate time and laugh to myself how incorrect we all are. I can't wait when we really start following Christ, for real. Let go of the dogma and truly submit our hearts to the Lord.
i hear you ..i see you I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY..see profile pic..WORMWOOD .. clearly God had no sexual preference in handing this information out ..just saying..is what it is and its the THRONE OF GOD LITERALLY
3 hours none stop learning and him talking its amazing
I work with a man who is a Christian. But he didn’t/doesn’t like me too much. I am a Christian too, so I thought that if I tried to talk to him about something Christian related, that he’d maybe be ok with me. I don’t remember what I asked him, but his answer started out with him saying, “Since you don’t have a husband, I will answer your question…” Since I don’t have a husband who am I supposed to ask?
Well, it would seem you answered your question with the first part. Seems that you are incapable of tracking your own thought process. Meaning that without a masculine presence in your life your mind is not acclimated to things that would be trivial for us
It's not really about who you are meant to ask, but the interpretation leading up to asking. It's not his or anyone else's responsibility to assure you of mind. But if and when you have a husband, he will be your head covering. You aren't even supposed to confront the pastor about matters of spirituality, you are supposed to interpret from your husband and follow his household
It's no different than a man who does not have Christ embellishing things from the world. When he becomes the bride of Christ, he is supposed to have Jesus as the head for his decision making. Without it he is a man who forgets what he looks like apart from the mirror
Right now you have nothing to mirror
Well he sounds horrible honestly. A good theological discussion should appeal to anyone who loves Jesus, in my onion. I think he has misinterpreted your intent and frankly he sounds arrogant.
I always just assumed and have also read that Paul stated this because the culture of the day didn't allow for women to study the Torah, something which would be actively referred to within their new Christian context.. That the men would study and then inform the women and children in the ways of God. The Jewish culture was to have them positioned at the rear of the synagogue (away from the men) for this reason.. I don't see the problem. 🤔. They couldn't teach for above reason but they could prophesy (a spiritual gift) and pray in public (neither of which are reliant on being studied in the Torah). Absolutely no issue.
This is what I was taught when I was growing up in church and under my grandfather’s teaching (elder, my immediate go to for questions).
@@josephinenelan4204 interesting, thank you. I'm not sure why cultural context is not being considered here. Once you do, it all makes perfect sense.
Seriously this is such a blessing to me.
When is the 1 Timothy 2 video coming out? I really am looking forward to it!
Hey Mike, I love your videos so much and have devoured so much of your content since I discovered your videos a few months ago. I would really love to see you do a video on young earth creation vs old earth creation based on the Bible and the evidence available. Thank you so much for all you do!
I truly appreciate the level of research you put into this topic.
I have walk faithfully with my Lord and Savior for 67 years. Most of that time was spent working with in the church. For a woman, this choice or calling can be a heavy cross to carry. One is judged first as a woman and then as a Christ follower. Each individual has their own personal scriptural interpretation of a woman’s role. That interpretation, without question, becomes your standard of conduct. This is chaos at best and spiritual abuse at the worst.
My conclusion, after all these years, serve the Lord! Do what you can do for the glory of God within the boundaries or shake off the dust and move forward. Foremost, do not allow the sin of anger, bitterness and unforgiveness in your life. Follow Christ’s example, He loved the church and gave His life for it. Sincerely love others with a different view. This is the mark of a true Christian. Christ’s calling isn’t a ridged role, it is a loving relationship!
you wrote:
Each individual has their own personal scriptural interpretation of a woman’s role. That interpretation, without question, becomes your standard of conduct. This is chaos at best and spiritual abuse at the worst.
It is clear as crystal.
Deborah
An anointing of the Holy Spirit is the anointing of a powerful masculine being. That anointing eclipses gender.
Loved that realization of the anointing of the Holy Spirit is of a powerful masculine being. The anointing transcends gender in that the Holy spirit anoints women to be witnesses and proclaim the gospel along with men. Masculinity is not a prerequisite however the Apostles were men and therefore the pattern and standard God chose to spread the gospel. The way the Lord set up the church in the beginning is certainly the way he intended for his church to continue.
@@markmacmac8957
Sorry them tube keeps deleting
my reply since it is about gender.
you wrote:
... powerful masculine being...
That comes from my short essay on Deborah. (l'll post
it if you want it.) All the judges were men...except one.
you wrote:
The way the Lord set up the church in the beginning is certainly the way he intended for his church to continue.
So there is this old post from me:
I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae. I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of his people and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been the benefactor of many people, including me.
At the end of Romans, Paul mentions about 24 people.
Phoebe is the first to be mentioned.
Translation is NIV, and is also correct, regarding the word 'deacon'.
Strongs Number: G1249
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If there isn't male or female and we are all sons, how would
gender be important?
For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
-excerpt Galatians 3 -words of Paul
Since we are still the same physically,
this
verse must apply to the spiritual.
I would hope that all examples in the Bible would be equally held as truth. Jesus broke with Jewish tradition when he taught women the Torah and elevated them to disciples. For example Mary of Bethany sat at Christ feet. Again, Jesus breaks with tradition, Joanna, wife of Chuza and other women are allowed to supported and followed Jesus. This conduct would of been considered scandalous for women. Scholars believe Joanna may have been a key source of much of the detailed information Luke recorded. She was at the crucifixion, burial and proclaimed the resurrection. In a day, when women voices were considered unreliable and invalid in legal matters. On the day of Pentecost, woman were present and received the same benefits and calling. Phoebe, was a deacon of the church in Cenchreae. Lydia first convert in Europe, the leader of her church. Junia the Bible list as an apostle. These examples are also recorded in the Bible concerning the early church.
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Nothing controversial about the word of God. It means exactly what it says. A women's worth in the eyes of God is equal (very high) to a man's. She is however given different roles, different strengths, and different responsibilities. The man is to be the leader in both the church and the home according to the Bible (God's message to us on how to live).
I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah.
Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually.
She was a pastor, according to the scriptures.
This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles.
God ruled Israel through the Judges.
@user-iz8np3vv4i she was not in a position of leadership, not a pastor. She was a messenger for God. Big difference.
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A Judge at this time, was VERY different from a judge in our time.
The Judge was over the nation of Israel. But not as a man, as
King, or as a woman, as Queen, because God was not rejected as King as yet.
God ruled Israel through the Judges.
Wheresoever I have walked with all Israel, spake I a word to any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people, saying, Why have ye not built me an house of cedars?
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 KJV
Major modern English translations like the NASB use
the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people...
[PASTOR - Origin: late Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French pastour,
from Latin pastor ‘shepherd’.]
In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation
Also:
Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning, and since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel.
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verses 9 and 10 KJV -God speaking to Nathan the prophet
More, proving a Judge was a pastor:
But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways.
-excerpt Judges 2
What happened after Deborah's time?:
Then the sons of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord handed them over to Midian for seven years.
-excerpt Judges 6 -first sentence
Also, a Judge had the ultimate in spiritual authority.
A Judge, according to scripture, had the authority to
judge homicide cases. So if a Judge gave a verdict
that a man had committed the sin of premeditated
murder, the Judge could, and had to, order his execution.
As his execution was required for this sin under the Law
of the Old Covenant. Also, according to scripture, a Judge's
verdict could not be altered or appealed.
... in accordance with the verdict which they tell you, you shall act;
you shall not turn aside from the word which they declare to you,
to the right or the left.
-excerpt Deuteronomy 17
@user-iz8np3vv4i complete misinterpreting of scripture. She was not that kind of "Judge". Women weren't even allowed to talk in church or in public in that time. No evidence she was more than a mouthpiece for God (a high honor) the same as EGW. A women never sat in Judgement of a man in all of scripture. It would not have been tolerated in their culture(God's culture)and shouldn't be ever.
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Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. She used to sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the sons of Israel went up to her for judgment.
-excerpt Judges 4
A Judge, according to scripture, could judge homicide cases.
There was no appeal to a Judge's verdict, according to scripture.
I can post my essay, or reply to questions.
Loved the "cat break," Mike! And thanks so much for this video. I'm writing an essay about the life of Paul and even though I don't want to provide too much commentary about his writings, I did want to tackle this passage because so much of the culture and history of the time period informs our interpretation of it. So thanks again for this!
I wrote an informal essay on some of Paul's teachings.
He didn't come out well. Postable here, free
Part 11
PAUL STATES THAT WOMEN SHOULD BE SILENT
As in all the churches of the saints, the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.
-excerpt 1 Corinthians 14
In this matter Paul speaks of the 'law'. There is a small possibility that he is
referring to a Roman or local law. If not, then Paul is stating that Christian women were
still under the Old Covenant laws.
Yet there was no Old Covenant law that states that women should be silent.
Then the daughters of Zelophehad...came forward. They stood before Moses, before Eleazar the priest, before the leaders, and all the congregation at the entrance of the tent of meeting, saying, “Our father died in the wilderness, yet he was not among the group of those who gathered together against the Lord, in the group of Korah; but he died in his own sin, and he had no sons. Why should the name of our father be withdrawn from among his family simply because he had no son? Give us property among our father’s brothers.” So Moses brought their case before the Lord. Then the Lord said to Moses, “The daughters of Zelophehad are right about their statements. You shall certainly give them hereditary property among their father’s brothers...
-excerpts Numbers 27
These women were not rebuked, even though they spoke before everyone, including Moses.
What they asked for was granted to them, because God agreed with them.
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In this case it is generally believed that the women were on one
side of the room and the men on the other. The wives were asking
their husbands what something meant in the middle of the sermon.
It is thought that Paul just wanted to keep some basic order.
Therefore Paul writes:
If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.
I'm saying this because it seems to make sense.
It may or may not be correct.
Me to my wife: good news you are allowed to speak in church.
My wife (horrified): but I don’t want to speak in church
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Hilarious! My wife!
Allowed does not mean have to. Is anyone that simple?
as a pastor's daughter, I can say it's pretty accurate.
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I believe that if you truly are married to the one God wanted for you, there’s a strong level of trust.
That said, I believe that women and men have different roles in the family. Now in my house, since my husband is the breadwinner, I defer to him when one of the kids asks for something. It’s not about obeying. It’s about respecting. He has the checkbook so to speak. Likewise if my kids ask my husband for a snack, he defers to me. Dinner might be almost ready.
I talked to my aunt about it, and said that I don’t mind having one man be the leader of the family, the head of the family. But she gave me a different perspective. She thinks not of a marriage as one general leading his troops, but rather two admirals leading a fleet.
I am just going to run with that military analogy a little bit and point out 2 admirals never works. Military has always has a strict chain of command with 1 on top giving orders. Though one of the big innovations during WW2 was when the Germans gave field commands autonomy since they didn't have time to call back to the main HQ with the blitzkrieg. But it was still hierarchical.
Though all that being said military leadership is nothing like the servant leadership found in the Bible.
I think a better analogy would be an admiral and a senator leading a country. The admiral is clearly in command but he relies on the senator to know what the needs of the people are. Then he sacrifices his forces (his body in the case of gender roles) to fill those needs. The senator can't override the admiral, but if the admiral doesn't make senator happy with his decisions he will have hell to pay after the battle. And to add to the analogy, God is the president. If the admiral goes against God it would be a military coup, and those never end well.
My family would be destitute if I did such a thing. Yeah know I just try and respect and leave my husband alone as much as possible. He doesn't want to do any kind of headship thing in our home. Just work and drink till he goes to bed. I wish people would be more realistic when speaking on this bc not everyone has marriages where this is even possible.
@@ColorsFlight My marriage is far from perfect. And I know there are marriages that are one nightmarish day after another. In fact, just last week after 25 years of marriage my husband doesn’t want to be married anymore. No reason. No answer. Nothing. Happened the same day my favorite aunt died. And the day I ended up in the hospital with acute kidney failure and an ugly adrenal crisis. Just got out of the hospital.
But I’ve been praying for a change. Mostly praying my husband would change. But God answered my prayer. Just in a way I never expected. So, while I’m reeling from his announcement, I’m also a bit relieved. Sorry about your situation. 😔
@@ColorsFlight We are discussing the ideal. If you can't reach the ideal that is fine, none of us can. That is why God's forgiveness is so awesome.
We shouldn't lower the ideal to make ourselves feel better because the ideal is meant to be something we strive for, not something we achieve. Instead just know that God values you and your family. And if you give Him the chance, He might even be able to help.
Thank you for this study and thank you for all the effort you give in all the topics you give your time to.
Dear brother thanks for digging deep into this study, greatly appreciate it. However, I will err on the plain reading of scripture and defer to our forefathers and the early church history which I noticed you did not cover. This topic was never an issue of contention until recent times. The practice in all the churches was that women should be literally silent. The contention you brought up of a few certain women prophesying is never mentioned to be in the church because that would contradict apostolic teaching, you can't assume when women are mentioned prophecying that it happened in the church, it must be shown. That being said I understand it's the hardest view in our western worldview to embrace or give approval of any kind. Love you tho I think you gave it a fair shake, but scripture is king no matter how uncomfortable, I will stick by scripture. God Bless.
Hi Mark, I’ve been studying this specific topic of whether Paul meant women prophesying in the church. If women are literally meant to be silent, does that mean they should not sing or do announcements? Thanks for your input!
@@nickosborne1556 Good evening, friend,
Thank you for your question. In 1 Corinthians 14, Paul addresses conduct during church assemblies, including worship. Specifically, verses 34-35 state:
"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
Given this directive, if women were not permitted even to ask questions during the assembly, it logically follows that they would also be prohibited from making announcements or singing.
Now, it's common for some to raise hypothetical scenarios, such as asking whether women would still be forbidden to speak in cases of emergency or exceptional circumstances. Of course, exceptions rooted in love do exist, as Romans 13:10 reminds us: "Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law."
For example, we see the Pharisees condemning our Lord for healing on the Sabbath, which they perceived as a violation of the law. However, they failed to understand the deeper message of Scripture and the love of God. In the same way, while exceptions may arise from a place of love, we should not seek to disregard the instructions handed down to us merely for convenience or because these customs feel foreign to our modern sensibilities.
Indeed, we must humbly submit to the order God has established in His church.
God bless, brother.