HOW TO: BASSAI DAI | Shito ryu & Shōtōkan Karate Kata with Lena Mayer & Fiore Tartaglia
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BASSAI DAI | Shito ryu & Shōtōkan Karate Kata
Precision and depth - from the Kata stage in Sindelfingen, Germany on 10/12/2016.
Bassai dai from Shito Ryu and Shōtōkan: Here you can see technical parallels and application examples from both styles, demonstrated by Lena Mayer, 1st Dan Worldcup winner 2015 in New Zealand and Fiore Tartaglia, at the time 6th Dan Shōtōkan Karate and millennium trainer.
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BASSAI DAI | Shito ryu & Shōtōkan Karate Kata
Präzision und Tiefe - aus dem Kata-Lehrgang in Sindelfingen am 10.12.2016.
Bassai dai aus Shito Ryu und Shotokan: Hier seht ihr technische Parallelen und Anwendungsbeispiele aus beiden Stilrichtungen, vorgeführt von Lena Mayer, 1. Dan Worldcup-Siegerin 2015 in Neuseeland und Fiore Tartaglia, zum damaligen Zeitpunkt 6. Dan Shōtōkan Karate- und Milleniumstrainer.
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Lovely kata's. Could I ask about why the shuto in the shotokan version has the thumb sticking out like that? I was always taught thumb against the hand. Thank you.
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Excellent comparison. As a shito ryu student I thought the lady was excellent. Fascinating to see the other style’s interpretation.
Hi I am also a Shitoryu student. And I am indian
Hey I am a shotokhan student and now I am a black belt 🥋 but I really like your style and now I we’ll gone learn how to play bassi die on your style
I’m a shotokan, too. I will do the exam for black belt tomorrow. I really like your style though, I would like to learn it if I become black belt!
I am also a shito ryu karate student
I'm sorry, I do not speak German. However please allow me to say that in my opinion, this is a very good demonstration of the two schools because it allows the viewer to concentrate on just a few kata movements at a time, and this really helps to illustrate both the similarities and the differences. Many thanks.
Super
His is not a good demonstration actually a very poor one
@@dpigg1 It is not difficult to make a banal judgment, but it is a bit more complex to provide a constructive explanation.
Perhaps you can explain your factual thoughts to us in a few words?
Shotokan karate is best containing perfect stance ,speed, expression and with lots of power💪
Shitoryu bassai dai.. My first winning kata 😍
Shito Ryu is more quick and lashing out, while Shotokan is more raw strength and power. Both are great styles, and it is very interesting to see them side by side. Good job the the demonstrators!
I practiced shotokan and it took me a while to learn to apreciate other styles and combat sports and learn from them. I still love shotokan as my base/core style. I think this was and excellent comparison and I personally liked the performance of you both. On top of that the girl is very beautiful. Keep the good work!!
This demonstration was actually very fascinatin. It's extremely educational when you see the differences between styles of the basically the same martial art. I enjoyed watching this.
mabuni and funakoshi prob learnt them from itosu but shotokans was changed to fit the style aesthetically.
@@666Havers Funskoshi modified the Shorin Ryu syllabus considerably to create Shotokan to make it more compatible with the Japanese culture. This was unnecessary by the time Mabuni created Shito Ryu, which is why it still closely resembles Shorin Ryu. But it also incorporates Goju Ryu as well, so you're learning a lot more than Shotokan teaches.
Shitoryu is so refined, clean and beautiful to watch
Very interesting indeed! I was brought up in goju ryu but is converting to shotokan. The shito ryu version would of course be a lot more natural for me😁
Lindo a diferença de estilo, muito lindo e perfeito, parabéns!!!😆👍
This is very educational for those wishing to understand the similarities and differences in how kata are performed in different styles of Karate
Incluso entre diferentes escuelas/organizaciones del mismo estilo, pueden haber diferencias sutiles. Sin embargo, aquí vemos que aunque la ejecución difiere en algunos aspectos, la esencia se mantiene. Felicitaciones a ambos!
Interesting! I'm a Shido-kan student and can see a little of our version in both, and many differences with both as well. Thank you!
amazing
both of them have done a great job
Excellent both well done.
Both katas looked amazing. Oss!
This is a fantastic example. When I first started karate my Dojo teach Shito Ryu I remember this because of the unique way I learned Bassai and as my Dojo progress with time we ended up adapting Shotokan. I have never ask my Sense why we ended up doing this transition but I think it had to do with our Dojo joining the Japanese federation called JKS. Over all no regrets I love Shotokan Bassai Dai is one of my favorite kata's but looks amazing in Shito Ryu
Very interesting experiment
it is a pleasure to watch two great performances side-by-side. good idea and thanks for sharing. OSU!!
thanks :)
thanks for the upload.
Thank you for sharing this. Very elegant demonstration.
thank you :)
I love to compare Kata's especially "older" to "newer", or the Okinawan version to the Japan one. It's amazing to see how Kata evolve. I could imagin if you put Matsumura -, Shito -, Itosu no passai and than Bassai dai at the end, it would give an amazing shot.
Thanks for this Video, have a great time!
Masterful performances.
Absolutely stunning! Bravo! ... two years late as of this comment ... but still, Bravo!
This is my favorite Kata after Kanku Dai. Ive seen so many variations and all of them are great!
Excellent presentation by both.
Very interesting and valuable presentation. With an open mind, regardless of one's personal training lineage, one can see a kind of archaeology of the art. Whether one accepts differences as valid variations or even improvements on what one was taught --- or rejects them as mistaken or clearly inferior --- this comparative video invites one to consider what one does and why. The ability to make the most of this video pends the viewer's level, not style. Thank you for posting.
@goggles789 Sorry. My intent was quite opposite the way you took it. My comment was meant to compliment the video and render respect to all styles, while acknowledging that the natural inclination, at least in my case, to instinctively think that what one was taught and invested time in learning is the "true" way should not close one's eyes to the possibility of learning something new. In saying that the ability to analyze and make conclusions about the differences between the styles pends one's level, I was actually thinking that I myself, for one, might not have sufficient experience or expertise to make such judgments yet. Not sure what caused your response to my comment, but I hope this clarifies.
When I started shotokan as a teenager I was very closed minded. It took me years to open my mind and be able to enjoy and learn from other styles, and other martial arts and combat sports. And I should say it is a very rewarding experience. I still love shotokan as my base style and as the first physical excersice I ever practiced, I may own to my karate training whatever good physical condition I have nowadays. And yes tracking the original techniques and aplications of kata is also a very interesting and rewarding task, regardless of the fact that I am acustomed to perform the katas with a shotokan style. (sorry for the bad english)
Both have their good parts in that Shito Ryu looks very artistic Shotokan is vicious
I have studied both arts throughout my life
Probably my favorite kata
Thank God I studied shotokan.
Bravo! Side by side stylistic differences! Thanks.
Oss! Ótimo demonstração. Prova que o Karatê é único, com detalhes sutis que o diferencia na ênfase dada nos golpe de fada estilo. ❤
Beautiful!
Muy bueno ambos. Saludos desde Lima Perú.
Shito Ryu...hasta el fin!!. Oss!!
Excelente!!!! Muy Bien tecnica.
Merci beaucoup pour cette comparaison
Grazie !! Una bellissima dimostrazione !!
Grazie! :-)
Wow Super ❤️❤️
Really very interesting. Thank you but Shito ryu for ever !
at least pro Karate :D
Awesome showcase
The best!!!
Shotokan kata is best wow❤
I practice shotokan, but in my opinion bassai dai shito ryu it's very elegant.
Sin duda shotokan
It's so cool 😍
Muito legal! OSS
Magnifico. Auguri. Great performance.
Grazie :)
Sensei j'adore vos vidéos. Un grand merci. Pouvez-vous envisager de faire de nouvelles vidéos de comparaisons entre styles de karaté ?
I thank you for your opinion. It is not easy to find a person willing to make such a video. In this case, it resulted from a training course. If it comes up again, gladly!
This was awesome. Would love more examples.
Ryan Jandu me too :)
Ok, magníficos videos y tutoriales
I'm glad to hear that, thank you!
Preferisco la versione shotokan 💪💪💪🙏Oss
beautiful.,
Awesome 👌
Both are excellent.
That's great to hear, thank you!
i guess the guy was shotokan and the woman was shito-ryu
Yep, the Shito Ryu version is the same as the Shorin Ryu version. You see the same differences when Shotokan is performed side by side with Shorin Ryu.
dont guess its obvious
Isn't it obvious?
True. I know this kata in shito ryu.
shotokans longer stances are purely for leg strength and speed if you can move in a low stance then you can move faster in a higher easier stance once you hit black belt you start training in more natural stances kata however remains the same personaly i would have liked shotokans kata to have stayed closer to the source material
Awesome! Shotokan still looks the best.
In my opinion shitoryu looks more fluid and smooth
Great!
Thanks from Texas!
Greetings back to Texas!
Marvellous
Good demonstration.
Interessanti gli altri stili fa venire voglia di provarli.
Thank you so much sir and mam tomorrow is my black belt examination and this kata is going to be asked
I hope you had a good exam!
I know this as a shotokan kata it's interesting to see a different version of it
Power vs.speed. great technique.
yeah, finally someone got it!
too good
shotokan -back stance
shito ryu-cat stance
I do shito-ryu and I love the cat stance
@@vimpex5157 I do both
its not the back stance... In shotokan its the tiger stance
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Very Nice. Amazing Form, Nice & Clean. If I could just add anything I'd add a camera down so the form can be seen while your back is to us.. would like to know anyway what I'm missing if anything so I can do it correctly.. Thank You
Hermosas ambas katas
Thank you!
Nice~
More of this.
Good demonstration
Thank you!
Bravi bravissimi
Both very very good exelent👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💪🥋👏😀
Thank you!
I study shotokan at the IJKA. The bassai dai we do there is a bit like a combination of both of these. For example, we use the cat stance the woman does at 0:50
Asai Ryu? any video example?
Is Good
Wow
Great performance both NKK old school and Shito-Ryu 👍
Oss..its not the style that matters..its how good you are in what you do..
nice
She’s pretty good; enjoyed her kata
糸東流の女性はまだ初段ですか。良いですね。凄く良いと思います。協会の男性は流石ですね。羨ましいです。
Ages ago I did a Korean variant (Bassa hyung) when I was practicing moo duk Kwan taekwondo. There was Japanese influences on Korean martial arts in this system.
There's sources that say that TKD isn't truely original and it derives itself from the pre-existing Japanese styles... But that's what I've been told from a life-long fellow martial artist that's studies TKD for decades......
I have practiced different martial arts and I personally enjoy reasearching about them. From what I know Taekwondo´s real origin was the shotokan karate introduced by the japanese during the Korea ocupation. However for nationalistic reason Korea (and korean´s) is not going to accept they based their art on some invaders art. Until today the relationship between Korea and Japan is not very kind. Bassa Hyung is not the only kata that is very similar, all the 5 heian katas (also named pinan katas) and the tekki kata of the shotokan style are very similar to taekwondo katas, with only some aded movements or switching punches to kicks. I have practiced both shotokan and taekwondo and thats when I first noticed this. Taekwondo has evolved in its own way and nowadays is very different from karate. (sorry for the bad english)
@@watch006 Tang Soo Do is was based on Okinawan Shorin Ryu. Shorin Ryu was the basis for Shotokan.
My self, Goju- Ryu Karate Do.
I think, i love Shito- Ryu, it's not so hard like Shotokan.
Sorry, my english is so " mad "
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Nice
GREAT VIDEO. OSS🙏
thank you :)
thanks :)
i have learn shito ryu and after recycled me in shotokan (no choices no shito ryu in my town) but now i rather shotokan / wado ryu
Shotokan doesn't seem to have kihon dachi (basic/medium stance). Always seems to be in zen kutsu dachi
I would love to see a comparison between the Sanchin kata of the shotokan style with the one from the Goju ryu style. I practice shotokan but I love the power of the Goju ryu´s Sanchin kata.
Shotokan does not have Sanchin in the curriculum.
I assume you mean sochin from shotokan my martial arts brother? It's a very different mate I'm afraid though. Nearest comparison I can think of would be shotokan 's hangetsu shown in contrast with goju ryu sanchin. Though only the start of the katas are similar. I remember only way I stopped my shotokan muddling up my kyokushin kata was that one was right leg forward 1st and other was left leg forward. It's good for you to learn cross styles so you don't get too bogged down in 'style'. Good luck in your future martial art quests
i like shoto kan..
Hübsche Frau !! Und präzise dazu. Complimenti👍🏻
🇲🇽🤠🇺🇸 You can tell which student represents shito-Ryu just by the stances before Kate starts
1.mind & body become 1 (crossing open hands)
2. 2 first 1 first width apart ready stance.
too both well done OSS!!
Thank you!
Faltou fazer o tb junto o bassai do estilo Wado Kai
my shito ryu
I think the guy was Shito Ryu . . . her stances were deeper than what I have done in Shito Ryu . . . however, neither kata looked quite the way I learned Bassai dai . . . However, I really appreciated the side by side comparison. Good job!
The man was Shotokan.
Brett: your wrong
Keep this up..........
thank you :)
Shito ryu is the best style
Super super geil perfekt traumhaft.
Danke :-)