Lakers vs Grizzlies - Breaking Down Why Jeremy Lin Doesn't Foul
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Much unfair criticism has been foisted of Jeremy Lin for not fouling Conley at the end of the game between the Los Angeles Lakers and Memphis Grizzlies on January 2, 2015. This video breaks down that play, showing how Coach Byron Scott specifically directed Lin to not foul.
It's no news, but the Lakers clearly has two head coaches in Kobe Bryant and Byron Scott.
Listen here son, I need you to zip it about the two head coaches theory or I'll staple your mouth shut.
Coach Hines lol you're scary... oh noooo... lmao!
wish that lin had not wasted his time in laker land - it was so obvious that they were tanking
Byron was like why u lookin at me, Kobe the real coach
@@coachhines3573 you
I remember this Lin did what his coach said but his own instincts clearly told him to foul our he would not have been checked as much. He will get the blame in that situation only because he is the point guard. I know it's hard because you want to follow your coach but look who is taking the heat. This applys to everyday life. Boss tell you something stupid you do it but who ends up looking bad.
tell me why the rest of the lakers didn't press the inbounds pass then if its was the obvious thing to do.
Actually if the coach does the right thing...he makes it known!! Lin was following the coach...but that is where the game is, i.e. coaches don't have control of the strategy anymore, particularly with the superstars and their millions.
Kobe has 5 rings, coach has not.
Exactly, you can’t blindly follow orders. It’s just goes to show Jeremy was never going to be a leader. A good player has to be able to think on his own and not just blindly follow orders.
On the floor you have to follow coaches call, Kobe got away with what he did cause he was bigger than the franchise. If Lin did same, he'd probably get some steam from the coach so... He made the right decision.
Now i really get it. I thought Lin was stupid for not fouling. Now I understand Kobe was the real coach at that time. Lin was just following orders man
The grizzlies could of chucked up a shot at 1 second and the clock would of ran out. I’m not sure why the coach said “wait” or “don’t foul”.
@@Josh_sfg Byron is a tanking coach 🤷♂️
Any player with ball IQ wouldve fouled.
@@skullyfresh8720 you ain’t even a player so stfu
@@Josh_sfg he wanted to run more clock. You can foul at 12 or 15 seconds. But Jeremy should have been pressing. He could have at least try to force a turn over. At least you're getting the ball out of presumably your best foul shooter
After the game, Byron Scott did say he told Lin not to foul, wanting to wait and foul at the 10 second mark thinking that it wouldn't make much of a difference. To be fair though, I would think the only upside of doing that is to potentially get a steal or force a pass to a worse free throw shooter, which can only be achieved if the ball handler gets some sort of pressure from the defender, which is clearly not happening.
Exactly lin should have pressured the ball handler, that's why kobe got mad, it doesn't have to be an intentional foul. He should've been trying to force a steal or be physical, the worse probable outcome of doing that is ending up in a foul..
Facts clearly definitely not happening either way u look at it that was pretty bad
@@altereg3509 smh they didn’t discuss that in this “breakdown” why wasn’t he playing defense? 😂
There clearly isn't that much to discuss here. Only real hoopers know lol
When you body up a NBA point guard, you’ll get blown by 100%
so what was byron thinking? i dont get it, did he not know how much time was left?
The shotclock was still on and it had more time than the gameclock
Thanks a lot for making this video! People who bashed Lin for not fouling are either ignorant or pure haters.
dlhsonic Someone clearly just wanted to spout hate without actually watching the video.
dlhsonic OMG a black racialists!
dlhsonic why so many africans in USA?
I’m sorry but if your a pro basketball player it’s common sense to foul in this situation. Common sense. I wouldn’t have to look to Byron Scott
my question is why jeremy lin not fouling? the game clock is only one possession. there is no chance the possession back to the lakers unless j lin is attempt to steal the ball from conley or foul him thats the only option. kobe makes a good decision to foul. even conley make the 2 free throws there is much time for the lakers to create game play and execute.
You can't Blame Lin but you can't blame Kobe either.
Thanks for this video. People bashing Lin for not fouling are so stupid. They enjoy bashing him. They are convinced to be smarter than him.
I poured all my man juice into rooting for Yamanashi. Don't you cry...dammit, your a sad worthless...
Kobe to Lin after loss: Relax Lin, when we lose we lose, just let me do it XD
WOAW! I received so many messages from people insulting Jeremy Lin.
The video is about Lin following coach instructions. But people tell me in their message Lin is "just shit bla bla bla...". People are crazy and more stupid than I thought. that people will get MAD when they will see All star game. jlin7 #nbaballot
Lol no one is bashing lin juat because its common sense to foul look at the shot clock and game clock even .all grizzlies had to do was run down the clock to zero and game over lol
@@chrissporty9872 Exactly not fouling is one thing but stnading 3ft away from the ball handler and waiting the clock out was stupid, it's his mistake..
Byron Scott is driving the team down, he NEEDS to be replaced
They won't replace Byron Scott he's too valuable
@@lisamcgee8535are you new here? 🤣🤣
in crunch time knowing the time and score are the 2 most important things. down one no shot clock you extend the game. not wait until 5 or 6 seconds left. scott lost his mind. why would you listen to him?
How?
He wanted to run the shot clock down and get last possession
@@cjplayz5696 makes zero sense from a basketball standpoint. You can tick the clock down when it's your possession.
Here's the postgame interview where Byron Scott apologized for telling Lin to NOT foul yet. Lin asked him 3 times in that play, and Byron Scott said wait all 3 times! But Kobe had no idea Lin was obeying the coach. ua-cam.com/video/bvMl_NrB6_I/v-deo.htmlm6s
The only reason why you should be not fouling immediately is when you intend to pressure to get a steal or force the ball away from a good free throw shooter. They were not doing that. There was also no point in waiting for the 10 second mark to foul. They need all the time they have.
Byron Scott was dumb for not knowing this but Jeremy Lin should have known better too.
I mean, knowing Jeremy’s basketball IQ, maybe he would’ve been thinking to foul. Scott would’ve bashed out on him probably if Lin didn’t obey.
What kind of coach says dont foul without making ANY attempt to steal the ball or cause a turnover while letting the opposing team run the time out? Lin was a fearful newcomer. Kobe is a vet who knows to make the right play without having to look at the coach all the time. To first try to get a quick stop, but if not, foul immediately is the right play.
Clock will run out if they dont foul. There are only 24.2 secs. Remaining.
I don’t understand the point of not fouling tho because they could just let the clock go and it would just be like two free throws for a foul which a three pointer can tie the game with
If he fouled right at the 20 second mark. They would have been up by 3 with about 15 seconds for kobe to tie up the game for over time. Fouling was the right move.
ok head coach for the lakers
What if kobe didn't hit it ? The fuck we gon do now coach
no one is arguing if its the right move - they are aruging if Lin is to blame
20 second mark for what? You foul right away. Shot clock and game clock were about the same. They would have just dribbled the clock out. There really isn't that much to think about here.
@@jrlavilla9857 ok head coach for the lakers
Following to a coach which is stupid or following your own which is right. You have a mind you know what is right and wrong.
It was always the coaches fault, Lin went to Harvard i think he knows how to count.
The coach thought the shot clock would force them to shoot getting the ball back with tenths of a second left. Worst part is he had time to revaluate but ends up pissing Kobe off who’s doing all the work.
You must have a low IQ like Jeremy lin
With a .2 differential, Griz can easily run out the clock and shoot a second or 2 before it ends. Coach could have easily made a mistake since the shot clock is still running, he probably thought there was more than 0.2 secs on the clock and would still have enough time for another play so he opted for a stop rather than foul. Coaches would normally call for a foul or aggressive defense in situations like this.
This is why, he was ousted. Plus waving Kobe off.
For a second I thought Jeremy Lin had a basketball iq higher than a 5th grader lol my mistake
Bryon Scott was a horrible coach. The team had the worst record that year!! 🤦♂️
Thanks for breaking this down, I hope they learn from this.
He shouldnt foul like his coach’s instruction but Lin shouldnt let the opponent dribble and run down the clock like that… atleast pressure the ball to force a steal… if he gets called for a foul its still good… since they fot more time to make a play
I love to play basketball but don't have high game mentality. But with 24.2 seconds left definitely is a walk away win for the Memphis as they will burn the time for no foul from LA. No pressure for the ball handler for a possible ball steal or turn over. In fact, they ball can be easily pass to other Memphis teammates since the defends is loose. After inbound a foul could be given immediately but LA give a foul after 9seconds gone. I don't get clearly what's LA coach plan. But to foul immediately should be done in this situation..??Just saying...what you think guys?
He should have fouled anyway. Its obvious he needed to, Byron Scott was doing some dumbass coaching and that's for sure.
Definitely fouling immediately. If MConley made 2 the game would change and it's not guaranteed Kobe will make another 3 in the next 15, 16 seconds so the more time the better. Bad coaching.
A.T.H I would disagree. Byron Scott probably had a timeout left. He probably was telling him to wait to foul. You want a catch and shoot coming out of a timeout just in case Memphis nails both free throws. Foul too early, all Memphis has to do is foul you immediately where you only get 2 free throws instead of a look at a 3. You don't want to have to intentionally miss the 2nd and then Memphis gets the rebound and it's game over. Byron has 3 rings. I'm sure he has been faced with this situation enough times in his career. Lin could have been waiting for the signal for exactly when to foul. If Memphis hits both FTs. You can call the timeout, advance the ball and Memphis will probably not foul you at the 3pt line knowing it is a catch an shoot situation with no more fouls to give. Lin showed discipline.
Isn't that what Kobe did? He immediately foul the opposing player.
@@Apoc6 that's what i was thinking. Probably wanted an inbound play short enough for one shot and the Grizzlies wouldn't be able to have a chance.
But lin didn't create pressure to a ball handler. Every seconds count. Im not a proffesional player but you know you are a player when you have an instinct to be a player
What if he fould by mistake? He still has to blame 😂
@@ohayoart5988 thats why i said if you are a player atleast you know how to create pressure without commiting a foul
And Jeremy Lin is a Harvard graduate...can't follow instructions 🤣
Byron Scott was not holding up his hand. He had his arms crossed and his hand is leaning over his biceps, making it look like it's up. Maybe coach told him not to foul, but your breakdown of the clip itself is not accurate
U as a player should know, being down one with 24 seconds left means there’s only time for one possession! U have to foul and have to foul right away! Coach shoulda had a full court press and immediately foul after getting it in
Nah I'm trying to get a steal or force a bad shot until 10 to 12 sec left
@@mrishka7286 because people make mistakes
It’s a bigger crime to disobey the coach’s mandate
@@casanova11ize it's a bigger crime that u have no brain
@@botmonmon6089 you sound dumb. if it's only 24 seconds left why would they shoot the ball? now I agree they should full court press. try to get a steak or the 8 second violation, but as soon as that doesn't happen. foul immediately
If you're a Laker, Kobe tells you to foul, and a coach, who isn't Phil Jackson, tells you not to foul, you foul!
Thank you for clearing this up!….RIP Kobe and Gigi!…Lakers4Life!
Has BS justified his reason for it?
Did the lakers win here???
Just simply basketball IQ or the lack of it 😂
Basically if Byron Scott tells Lin to jump off a cliff he might actually do it.
That makes no sense when you first start playing basketball on a team the first rule is clearly to listen to the coach not the star teammate
Who was bashing Jeremy? I was always against the coach on this play
shot clock is 24 seconds,,the ramaining game time is also 24 seconds...stupid coaching staff saying not to foul while opponent is leading a point
Lin was in a tough situation to begin with. It's not fair when he has to deal with two hotheads in Scott and Kobe.
I don’t think any first year players on a team will go against the coach
Had only Kobe played for the Patriots and called time out when Seattle was at the goalline. Can you imagine someone taking charge on Belichick 's team.
Lin knew the coach's strategy was off but was obedient. Kobe knew when to disobey the coach when it's time to win
ya kobe so arrogant
@@aprilannboholst8928 are you stupid?
Yeah but Kobe is a superstar while Lin was a role player at the time
@@aprilannboholst8928 Arrogant? Who knows. Very high basketball IQ? Definitely.
Bruh lin was framed by coach and kobe duhh
Good observation. If they didn’t foul, then they should have pressed the ball and tried to force a turnover. Waiting was not an effective strategy.
No excuse. You lose by 1 point, just 24 sec left and ball is on opponent. Even high school player knows to Foul. Multi million NBA players don't look at the coach like a kid. You are paid to Win.
In the position that Jeremy Lin's in, why would he dare to go against the coach. Kobe on the other hand, been with Lakers for this long would go after his instinct however isn't right to push Lin to do it.
JEREMY Lin orange chicken ass is out the league now… why do you think? The man was TERRIBLE
They should've put pressure on the ball handler and force him to commit a turnover or a foul. No point on waiting without even putting any pressure on defense.
Did Byron Scott throw Jeremy Lin under the bus?
I think Byron ended up taking responsibility after the game
Pg suppose to be high IQ players.
I know coach order is to not foul but it is common sense to foul at this point.
Conley will get take a airball shot at last 2 secs so lakers doesnt have tine to take another attwmpt
Big L for lin for not using his brain and how did this coach even get into nba
Last 12 second of 4rt quarter and 12 second shot clock and still not fouling
Look at it this way.
1. Foul the guy and let him shoot for 2 points - which he might get some, all or none. Either way, at max you will be at a 3 point deficit but at least with time on the clock and the ball in your hands now and with a chance to either tie the game or maybe even win it with a 3 point plus foul shots. It would be clear the opponent had wanted to drag the shot clock out for as long as possible with only 20 seconds remaining.
2. Wait for the clock to run close to out with no time to go to the opponent's basket to make up the 1 point difference.
Kobe was correct here. It was a risk assessment and Kobe saw the odds but Lin did not.
Lin looking at the coach many times says that his instinct as a player that he should foul but the stupid coach says don't.
The NBA wasn’t ready for Lin.
did they win this game? where is the full game
I would go with kobes side. Hes smarter than all the coaches. Hes a top 3 nba legend
obviously you have to foul here, 24.2 seconds left.. if you didnt foul they will just consume the 24 seconds even if they didnt get the shot....
can you shoot the ball .2? 😂
NBA players hated him didn't give him a chance but at the end of this game we so call love is a friend's game who rather an prefer he got a ring like it or not some don't hats off too u Lin raptors 💯💯💯👍
Love it !!!! Thank you
Lin's fault is that he should be giving pressure and trying to force a steal. Worst case is ball handler getting fouled which will stop the clock.
Either way, Lin shouldnt be just watching the ball handler wasting the clock. Not fouling doesnt mean just staring.
Nice analysis
Theyre nt even putting pressure on D.. if B.Scott really want to wait , he could have instructed a full court D.
you don't need the coaches direction at that moment. clearly has to foul... He don't even have to look at your coach for it.
So you're the boss now, 👌
Yeah but lin looked and he told him not to. After that lin got very conflicted and couldn't make a decision.
Kobe was a bully! A winner yes but a bully all the same.
would scott have dared behave this way with other players? why was lin singled out
Scapegoat lin . Damn that hurts
Grizz was about to dribble the clock out 😆
God is smart. Get rid of the assholes and let the good ones enjoy life…
smh, this makes me sick! Smh @ Byron Scott
He follow the coach not to foul but he wait there with no action of stealing the ball , and the gap of a game clock to shot clock is .4 sec only, what an idiotic mind is that
But for me the best way to do is to foul immediately. So Lakers would have enough time to shoot, regardless if memphis made two free throws. Kobe's 3 points will decide the game. Tie game or lose....
Lin should have fouled regardless of what that coach said in a situation like that common sense aint common no more an when Kobe said foul the head coach already done spoke
Dude Lin was trying to not lose his job.
Scott was probably trying to make him listen to Kobe or even to make an executive decision himself... idk but u gotta foul in that situation. There's no two ways about it..
Sometimes you got to think for yourself forget about the coach that’s why Kobe was Kobe and Lin was a sheep
Did they win that game
Who won this game
Thank you for making this on behalf of all die hard Jeremy Lin fans (including me)
Who won
This is why KOBE IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE GREATES and Byron Scott was a role player at best!😅
Foul or not. Lin should press.
He is back riding the pine tonight, probably will only see 14 minutes of game time. You can't play stupid and be rewarded by the coach.
Clearly, It is the coach's fault
What’s the outcome of this game? 🤓
Makes no sense to wait untill the clock is at 10secs lol. If Lin fouled him right away the Lakers would have a full shot clock to work with. Kobe was right..
Look, people!!!! U suppose to listen n respect ur coach decision. That is why there a coach are for, if don't listen to the coaches then why bother to have a coach. Obviously, lin play by the coach decision n kobe doesn't. Players like kobe, LeBron n Jordan are above the coaches!!!!
Man at some point common sense has to take over your "disciplined pg instincts".
You don't even understand that he is not the player like kobe was. You don't listen to your coach, you know what happens to you.
@@caoimhinyt9765 Then you must have some dumbass egotistical coach who doesn't deserve his job if that's the case. Besides, they're all pros in the NBA. I'm sure coaches there listen to their players too.
@@jrlavilla9857I'm just saying. Who would you listen to if you were in a team with kobe? Listen to the coach? Or to kobe? You choose. Most players will listen to the coach. Everyone wants to be on the rotation. If you make an error most coaches will bench you. Unlike kobe he will always be in the court because they need him. JLin is not equal to Kobe.
@@caoimhinyt9765 That is true to some extent. In this situation though you have to draw the line from being coachable to having lack of basketball common sense or awareness. Under no circumstances does not fouling in this situation make any sense from Jeremy Lin's standpoint apart from "BuT I'm LiStEniNg To ThE cOaCh". He could have used his own discretion, just fouled the guy, and then tell the coach he's wrong later.
@@jrlavilla9857 I guess you're right. JLin and Scott made a mistake there. And fouling was really the best thing he should've done. I guess he was kinda scared of taking the blame.
B,Scott fault they should foul right awy or pressure them to pass to a weak FT shooter doing nothing with 24 sec left wil secure the win for memphis
If that’s anyone’s fault it’s bscott
great video....
Wrong. Sometimes coaches are sometimes wrong. I’m not bashing Lin. Love him to death but he made a mistake. Kobe took leadership and did the right thing.
I think it’s clearly the coaches fault rather than anyone else. If Lin probably didn’t listen to him, Scott would’ve probably gotten mad at him by the end of the game or smth.
@@evarosario3826 yes. That’s what I said. “SOMETIMES COACHES ARE WRONG”. So I’m that case the player needs to step up and do the right thing. Lin made a mistake. Kobe stepped up and made the right decision
@@tjblackartist Nono, I know but I read that your opinion was that Lin made a mistake along with the coach being wrong as well. I apologize for the confusion I had there. I mean, I agree with Kobe as well ENTIRELY but since Lin was undrafted he would’ve been traded RIGHT AWAY LMAO. I believe I saw Lin saying im a video that he wanted to foul actually too but the coach clearly wanted to wait..who knows why anyway?
@@evarosario3826 again. I love Lin to death. One of the most underrated players ever. And why he isn’t in the nba right now is madness. But he made the wrong decision. As the point guard of the team you have an obligation regardless of the coach. He’s the one on the court. Not the coach. He shoulda made the right decision regardless of the coach. Kobe stepped in when everyone else was wrong.
@@tjblackartist You make a good point nevertheless. Though, we do have a bit of opinions I can see how as a point guard you’d want Lin to make the decision. Lin was wrong but knowing him he’s a very well-rounded person but since it’s been a while since this game he’s grown a lot so I’d like to see him in this type of situation again. Anyway, nice talk ! :)
Coach don't win games players do How do you expect to win the game if you don't foul..... Dumb coaching decision and one of the reasons why Kobe was as great as he was..... He knew that PLAYERS WIN GAMES
Then just don't listen to him? If you think you need to foul, or more like know, then foul! You are the one on the court for fucks sake.
Bc yellow is always yellow
Really good video! :)
Legends know how to play inside the court. Byron's career as a headcoach, obviously is not good. Byron and lin both lose their minds in that game
There’s nothing to break down…. Kobe was right.
Coach fault
If your an nba player you gotta have an IQ... its the biggest pro basketball league in the world...in you will keep on relying on your coach in that crucial minutes...you gotta have player instinct... And you should communicate with your team mates at the floor... Look what happen to lin to this day...
His main asset was driving to the basket and his injuries hindered that. He's also old. Later on, he got a couple of votes for Sixth Man of the Year with the Hornets, where they weren't even predicted to be in playoff contention but snagged a seed. Gotta listen to the coach. Doesn't matter if you think it's wrong. They determine if you play or not. You think from a coach's view, someone who just completely ignores your call won't upset you? Coaches are there for a reason. Probably wanted an inbound play, with a short enough clock for one shot from 3.
Coach wants to tank
There is a reason no one wanted to keep lin and why he is no longer in the league. He isn't good