Did You Know This About The Sorting Hat In HARRY POTTER…
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Even though it is one of the most powerful and intelligent magical artifacts, it can make mistakes when sorting students! Moreover, the Sorting Hat is notorious for refusing to admit it made a mistake when sorting a student. It steadfastly stands by its original decision even when Slytherins exhibit selflessness or altruism, Ravenclaws fail all their exams, Hufflepuffs exhibit laziness, but are gifted academically, and Gryffindors display cowardice. Despite this, over the long history of the Hat, it has made remarkably few mistakes.
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Ravenclaws are intelligent and creative thinkers. It doesn't always mean they're diligent in their schoolwork, have perfect memory, or whatever. Intelligence doesn't equal success in school. A lot of people in real life are intelligent and fail in school.
It's hard to believe all Gryffindors are brave all the time. No one is perfect. Even some of the bravest have cowardly moments.
Just because Hufflepuffs are diligently working on school doesn't mean they're automatically Ravenclaw. Anyone can be hardworking and intelligent.
Ambition doesn't cancel out kindness. You can be kind and ambitious at the same time. Not all Slytherins are bad people.
I doubt the sorting hat ever got it wrong. People aren't just one thing, nor are all our personality traits shown in our every action.
I agree. Especially as being hard-working is one of Hufflepuffs qualities too
I agree
Yeah. Does this guy think he gets to decide the traits of the house?! Since when did selfishness become a trait of slytherin.
Besides, Ravenclaw is not just about academics, idk why people still think that.
So Gilderoy Lockhart isn’t Slytherin?
*THANK* you!
People can chance, they get sorted at 10 years old and leave Hogwarts at 17-18. That’s 7-8 years plus going through puberty.
they all get sorted at 11, they can only begin magic school as 11, so those are about 7 years of magical education and whatever else happens that change them
@@angelhurtado55 but what if your birthday is after school starts
@@harrypotterotters iirc, ron had to wait a year because of that… vaguely recall him saying you gotta wait next year
I don't get your point. You get into a house that you belong in best, and once you're put into that house, you remain in that house for 7 years. I doubt any amount of growing up is going to change your traits into being suitable for another house, simply due to the fact that if let's say you're in Gryffindor, you will be influenced by that environment, and you will become brave, chivalrous and determined. Children get easily influenced. You may develop a few traits from other houses, but your main traits will be that of your own house.
@@Tsuki-Sii but Peter Pettigrew is an example, he was brave-ish and noble-ish when he was sorted, but ten years later he’s more of a Slytherin. And can someone please tell me why when I type he this emoji is shown 😼
Sad to hear that Leslie Phillips, the guy who voiced the sorting hat in the movies, passed away yesterday (at time of writing). He was 98 and had a very successful acting career in the UK during his younger years.
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The sorting hat actually sorts them by what they value. That’s why Peter Pettigrew was sorted in Griffindor.
Finally SOMEONE who gets it.
Oh that actually makes a lot of sense.
Yeah his thing was he was a loner and valued loyal friends even tho he couldn’t be one himself go figure 😅
So what house should peter have been sorted into
And Neville too. And that’s why Hermione wasn’t sorted into Ravenclaw either
I actually think that no one can be sorted in just one house.
For example:
Neville could also be a Hufflepuff,
Hermione a Ravenclaw,
Harry a Slytherin.
And there are so many more characters who have such a 'second house' or even a third or fourth one.
That's because personality is complex. Because our abilities do not define our decisions.
And because you can be brave, ambitious, intelligent and hard working in so many different ways.
So even if you are a Slytherin, it doesn't mean you can't be kind.
Even if you are a Hufflepuff, it doesn't mean you can't be brave.
Even if you are a Ravenclaw, it doesn't mean you can't fail sometimes, but be ambitious enough to stand up again.
Even if you are a Gryffindor, it doesn't mean you can't be intelligent and think things trough.
Just be yourself and be good.
You can't always make the right decision, but you can always regret what you've done wrong and try to make up for it.
Hermine can never be a ravenclaw.^^ Yes, she is a book worm and is studing most of her time. But, she refuse all sources, who are not written in books or allowed from the teacher (and is following the teacher to the word). Ravenclaws are open for every source and methode.
The second house for hermine is Slytherin.
She is goal oriented and wanted to be the best student from her class. She has all the attributes to Slytherin. With the exception, that she isnt dark (was is not necressary a neeeded point). And, she is a mudblood. I think this alone blocked her way to the snakes.
@@hasseo195 You're right, Hermione too is partly Slytherin.
Yet she herself said, that the sorting hat thought about putting her in Ravenclaw.
Also it's a defining fact that most Slytherins would do nearly everything to achieve their goal. (Sometimes this can mean cheating on tests or [more commonly] simply using your advantage as much as possible). They often don't follow the rules, just like Gryffindores. But Gryffindores mostly do it because of rebellious motives or the longing for fairness, Slytherins for tactical or advancement reasons. Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs are the ones to follow the rules and not get in trouble. Because Hufflepuffs are the 'social ones' and don't want to be a bother and Ravenclaws don't want to be bothered.
Slytherins clever and cunning, yet the calculating house is and always will be Ravenclaw.
Hermione is ambitious, but this can also be a Ravenclaw trait (Bc most people believe that Ravenclaws don't fail and that causes them to work harder), she is calculating, which is a Ravenclaw trait. She loves to learn and expense her knowledge [not really for her own advantage, but just for the knowledge itself, which again is typically Ravenclaw].
In addition, she can withdraw herself into a kind of bubble [for example when she learns]. A Slytherin would still notice everything, just like a Hufflepuff. Yet a Gryffindore wouldn't even be able to do so without a part Ravenclaw.
I hope you get what I mean!
And I think you're right, but I'd sort her something like this:
Gryffindore 50%
Ravenclaw 30-35%
Slytherin 15-20%
Just for the reasons mentioned above ^^
This is very true, when I take a sorting hat quiz I tend to get Hufflepuff, but I have gotten a few Griffindoor and even a Ravenclaw
@@aydenconely8460 Yes that just means you're a Hufflepuff, but have Gryffindore and even some Ravenclaw tendency ^^
A great mix, so congrats
@💖ChenLove💖 Exactly! Especially being dumb is like the opposite of what Slytherin should be like if you match all the main traits
I genuinely think percy Weasley should have been in slytherin. He was so ambitious that he abandoned his family
All Weaslys are in Gryffindor as part of their hegomony which is a Slitherin trait.
The twins were just as ambitious and far more crazy and fred nearly decapitated a boys head off in the vanishing cabinet (fred is confirmed to be the meaner twin). Percy was brave enough to say "f my family" because from a normal human standpoint, they were all crazy.
I mean Mrs Weasley practically abandoned the care of all her sons just for her daughter. She prioritized the needs and wants of her daughter over everyone else.
Ginny, new robes, new dress robes fir a 1 time ball, new wand 1st year, no hand me down broom for quidditch...
Ron, hand me down robes for all his years, hand me down dress robes for the very ame ball Ginny attended. Used broom. Used 2nd wand for his 1st year....etc
She ignored the twins antics for almost the entire time. She didnt even care about Charlies daily health working with dragons, just his hair.
Talk about abandonment. Percys and many of the other males achievements were often ignored by their own mother in favor of Ginny so much as batting her eyes.
@IzzoVenegas how is hemogeny a slytherin thing?
@@dabois8280 The Weasley are sorted into Gryffindor solely because of blood, being in the Weasley family. and Blood purity is a what Salazar was about.
@IzzoVenegas they tend to be gryffindor because it's a family tradition. It's not thier blood. There are plenty of purebloods in other houses
Wait, I thought the defining traits of Slytherin were Ambition and Cunning, why does that mean they inherently can't have any selflessness?
cuz jk made essentially all Slytherins in the books racist jerks😂
Right?? The opposite of a Slytherin should be someone directionless and inflexible!
selflessness - concern more with the needs and wishes of others than with one's own.
Slytherin usually was stereotyped to be selfish, opposite of selfless.
Those are the traits he just was falling into the stereotype that all slytherins are terrible people 😭
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Hermione's character is a mix of some of the traits of all the houses , she's brave like a gryffindor , she's intelligent like a ravenclaw , she's ambitious like a slytherin and she's hardworking like a hufflepuff.
It's just a hat. Life can't be interesting for it, sitting there in the Principal's office.
*headmistress/ headmaster
The sorting hat is the root cause of all the problems in Hogwarts🤣
That makes too much sense 👏
I've never thought it's about which qualities you have, it's about which qualities you value the most. Hermione is in Gryffindor instead of Ravenclaw because she values courage above intelligence. That's why she says "it's only books, Harry." Luna is as brave as any Gryffindor, but she values her independence of thought more. In the end, I think it sends you wherever you want to be.
Agreed!!
That's because they do belong in the house even if they aren't the stereotypical student to be in there.
For example: Neville. Most of the time he was pretty much a coward, but towards the end he showed how he's not.
And also the golden trio, who don't really fit gryffindor
I disagree with your points.
Ravenclaw is about thinking out of the box, being creative and witty, not just plain academic intelligence
Hufflepuffs also accept anyone who doesn't fit in any of the 4 houses, so kind of like "taking the lelftovers". So they could be lazy.
Beung selfish is NOT a trait og Slytherin.
a lot of the traits of Slytherin are also considered heroic in many regards especially in Greek Mythology. Cunning and Deception are traits of a lot of heroes even ones you don't think are capable of those types of tactics like Heracles.
Correct, Slytherins are ambitious not selfish and ambition can be used for good. Too many people just think as everyone in the houses HAS to be exactly the same qualities but it's not like that.
@@BoostedMonkey05 yeah and not to mention that Merlin was a Slytherin, one of the most famous and good wizards of all time
I love how they added the detail of the Sorting Hat being stubborn and sticking by his choices because the sorting hat originally belonged to Godric Gryffindor, the founder of the Gryffindor house. The traits of a Gryffindor are being Chivalrous, Brave and Daring but one of the bad traits of a Gryffindor is Stubborness. Ironic, isn't it?
The thing that I found interesting that I only realized when I reread the books this year was that the hat was Godrik's that he made after Salazar left them, so that when they all eventually left or died the hat would be able to sort students according to what the founders valued.
An example of a mistake: Gilderoy Lockhart was in Ravenclaw
This is why people say they're a hybrid house, which Rowling herself technically approves of. I know I would have been put in Ravenclaw at age 11 even though I am a Hufflepuff now at age 36 😝
I feel that
I will always be Ravenclaw but in all tests Hufflepuff had the second most points
It shifted with time
When I was young test said Ravenclaw and then second Slytherin
I think I also went through multiple houses as I grew up. Definetly had a time where I would’ve fitted into Ravenclaw. First pottermore put me into Gryffindor, but as an adult, it put me into Hufflepuff.
@@rzuue can you redo the test on Pottermore/wizarding world
Or just make a new account?
@@fabi3790 I don't remember. I might've made a new account because i couldnt remember my old one
I think the hat sees further into them then just their personality. I think it looks deep within the wearer to their core values and sorts them that way. Ravenclaw = knowledge, Griffindor = glory, Slytherin = Power, Hufflepuff = Empathy/social connection. A Griffyndor can be sly and cunning and a Hufflepuff can be super intelligent. The hat knows that these are traits of their personality, not a core value that they hold. A perfect example is Hermione and why she is in Griffyndor despite being intelligent enough to be in Ravenclaw. All of her knowledge is practical, she uses it to solve problems. Her core value is the glory of helping people and having a higher purpose. She doesn't gain knowledge for knowledge's sake which is why she is not in Ravenclaw.
Well it certainly made a mistake putting Peter pettigrew in gryffindor.
I don't know... I don't think I personally would be brave enough to chop off my finger, leave without any medical treatment, live twelve years as a rat and than still face the one person who once stood up for me and slit their arm open, practically making them my enemy.
Additionally, he lacks the traits of the other houses even more.
At least that's how I explain it.
@@yuemoon5896 he betrayed his friends. He is basically a coward.
@@beckykennedy6886 So would you put him into Hufflepuff, because he was loyal? Because he was hardworking?
Or rather in Slytherin because he was very ambitious and a natural born leader?
Maybe Ravenclaw because he was creative, witty and intelligent?
You're right, he was a coward and not as good a teammate as most Gryffindors are, but, just in my opinion, he lacks the traits of the other houses even more.
And wasn't it brave of him considering changing sides when everything was so much more worse than nearly 18 years earlier?
@@beckykennedy6886 if you see other way (or pov perhaps) he is brave enough to betray them...
Much like ambition isnt evil , bravery isnt good either
German soldiers during WW2 were just as brave as the americans
General Patton was just as ambitious as General Rommel
I would say it takes a lot of courage to turn on your best friend and commit the crimes that peter did , more because he wasnt a Voldemort Sympathiser like everyone else , voldemort say so himself , peter actions were just plain fear not loyalty , also i would say he has the most determination (to live) among all HP characters , which is also a core Gryffindor trait
Also , highly debetable , but it is mention that despite his cowardice he did struggle with his inner shame and regret over the betrayal of the potters and that is what kill him in the end
I believe the sorting hat doesn’t sort on traits they have, but traits they value the most.
Huffelpuffs represents loyalty and kindness
In theory, the sorting hat is the sole authority of which student would go where.
In practice, the hat decided to share its authority with the student it supposed to sort, whether they or everyone else knew it or not. Like the Weasley always go to the house of Lions and the Malfoys to the house of Snake.
Family 'indoctrination' and personal biasness is, unfortunately, part of that as well. But, like how Sirius Black has prove, its not always the case.
Oh, and also, puberty is a thing.
Omg the ending 😂 it was like “well after all that dumb knowledge” “check out this wand that shoots fire balls!!!!”😂
I personally think that the sorting hat sorts you based on your values, which is why there are cowardly griffyndoors or lazy huflepuffs. There are a thousand different personalities pit there, but your values would explain why some families have all their children on the same house.
I think that the sorting hat hasn’t really made mistakes but we are looking at it in the wrong way. Because you get sorted by your values not your personal skills. For example, a Griffindor could be cowardly but values strength/bravery (Peter Pettigrew)
Gryffindors show cowardness
Wormtail:👁️👄👁️
It doesn’t make mistakes but also takes into account the wants and needs of the student.
Yeah, because every resourceful kid needs to be stuck with a bunch of racist evil wizards for 8 years and obviously they won't influence his views of the world
@@Alex-fv7ri Any House can have evil students. It's just that the traits of Slytherin tend to tempt them in that direction the most often. Ravenclaw's thirst for knowledge can come second to that. As a Ravenclaw myself, I can say that the line between those two Houses is a thin one. Ravenclaws are more intelligent and articulate while Slytherins are more crafty and resourceful.
In third grade, my teacher was in love with Harry Potter. So on the first Friday of the school year, she would put the sorting hat on everyone’s head. Ever since I was first there, I wanted to be ravenclaw but was afraid I would be put in Slytherin or Hufflepuff, but when it was my turn to get sorted, I GOT RAVENCLAW!!! Which started my love for Harry Potter. Not just the sorting hat put me in ravenclaw, but most quizzes did to.
Peter Pettigrew: And that’s how I’m in Gryffindor
No one can be sorted into a single House by their traits, because people are layered and their characters are not just flat. Where they belong best is where they go. To say someone doesn’t belong in a House because they have other traits as well is to say no one belongs in that House or any House. Hufflepuffs can be brave, Gryffindors can be unkind, Slytherins can be kind and as for Ravenclaws- many people quote Lockhart as a stupid Ravenclaw, but this man managed to collect stories of achievements, wipe the achievers’ memories and sell them off as his own. It takes brains to do that. A stupid man could never do something like that.
I agree to this! Every house can have its flaws
Gryffindors: Cowardice
Hufflepuffs: Naivety
Ravenclaws: Failure
Slytherins: Imperfections
Ravenclaws are thinkers and creative. Yes they may fail all their exams but you could ask a specific student to come up with a plot for a story or something on the spot and they’d give you a detailed description. That’s what it means to be a Ravenclaw. To think outside the box.
Gryffindors aren’t always brave. They can also exhibit extreme kindness and love for their friends, landing them in that house.
Hufflepuffs try their best. But even they can have weak moments (depression, bullying, anxiety, sleep deprivation) which cause them to not be at the level they’re usually at. No matter what they try their hardest and even when they make mistakes they own up to them. They can’t be loyal all the time but when their not they don’t run but instead face their mistakes.
Slytherins are probably the most misunderstood. There are good people in Slytherin. They just have determination and ambition. They can also be manipulative or cunning which isn’t technically a bad trait as long as you use it correctly. Like say a Slytherin could convince another death eater to let them join and feed the ministry intel from the inside during the wizarding wars.
The sorting hat always knew exactly which house to put people in. Like Neville in Gryffindor. Nobody could ever think that Neville would be so brave in the first book’s time. But around the fifth book it was clear he was sorted into the correct place. Even in the first few books he showed bravery when he fought against Crabbe and Goyle in the stands at a quidditch game. Nobody ever knows at first why they are sorted into the house that they are. But sometimes you have to see the light through the dark and keep on going, and you’ll see that the sorting hat never makes mistakes. EXCEPT with Wormtail. That was very dumb. I could only guess he valued bravery but still. Very bad choice.
Peter belongs in Gryffindor because he only values friends strong and brave enough to protect him. It's more about who was stuck with Peter than where Peter belonged.
There is, after all, no house for spineless, pathetic nobodies who stand for nothing
FOUNDER OF HOGWARTS: okay, so we all know there are four types of kid. brave, smart, evil and miscellaneous. SCHOOL BOARD: yes, continue.
Well also note that it’s ultimately up to the person who’s being sorted. Remember the sorting hat wanted to put Harry in slitheryn but Harry wanted to be in Grythondor.
It went frome "here's the lore of Harry Potter" to "here's a weapon you can use to kill someone tonight" real quick.
The sorting it’s not solely based in what are your attributes at the moment of it, but also what you admire and wish to be. That’s why Neville is in Gryffindor.
Peter Pettigrew comes to mind for one such mistake. He displayed no courage, no loyalty, no strength. But he was cunning and clever, and conniving, even clever enough to frame his friend for a crime he didn’t commit while also able to fake his own death so convincingly that it haunted fudge for years. He should have been Slytherin.
Bro just started an advertisement as if he thought he was being smooth
I really think it’s less about the traits that one has, and more about the values they have to be sorted into a House, while the traits definitely play a crucial part in determining which house one would belong in, overall, it’s the values that count the most!
One thing to consider is that Ravenclaw's ideal is wisdom, not knowledge. While knowledge and wisdom do often go hand in hand, they're oftentimes quite different. Wisdom is charectized by deep-thinking and mental maturity among other things. Academic prowess isn't a charectistic trait of Ravenclaw.
I still wonder how Wormtail got sorted into Gryffindor
He must be one of the Hat's mistakes.
@@SmilingCorpse no not really, while he is well cowardly. Well cowardly isn't how I describe it, rather, staying hidden behind those stronger. Which is self interest rather then cowardness??? (Tf how do you spell that)
Also I believe that the hat also takes into consideration the person's own Values while they might not exhibit those traits they can still value them and wish to succeed.
Sorry.
Nevil Longbottom was one of the examples imo. Only a Gryffindor can pull Godric's Sword, and he's had the most growth throughout the series :)
Plus it takes into account what the student wants. So I don't think it's fair to blame the hat if someone reeeeally wanted a specific house and it gave in.
The thing that decides what house you go into isn’t always what traits you possess at the time of the ceremony. It’s also often what you yourself want and what traits you admire. Dumbledore tells this to Harry. This is likely reminiscent of how the founders would hand pick students to be in their houses based off of what traits the founders themselves deemed most important to possess. Also, the hat typically is very right seeing as he was right about Neville and Hermione, which at first glance don’t seem the type to be brave and headstrong. Hell, even Harry doesn’t seem all that brave in his first year. He’s a meek little boy when he’s first chosen.
The hat doesn’t sort by personality but instead by values. Neville valued bravery but he wasn’t brave when he first arrived though.
On top of that, kids can change a lot over 7 years.
The fact that being selfless makes you not a slytherin shows the problem
Houses can also change overtime. I know I would've definitely been a Ravenclaw a few years ago but at this point, Slytherin is my house
The theory is that you are sorted into a house that has traits you wish to develop. Hermione and Neville are good examples of this. In the case of mistakes, it is more the student not chasing the opportunity provided rather than the hat making a mistake. Potential for development isn’t the same as pursuing it.
Me: **A Ravenclaw who's failing most of my classes** O-oh..
I think JK Rowling once said that the sorting hat made 7 mistakes during it's time, and that one of them was putting Snape in Slytherin
It's not personality that based why they sorted to one of the house, it's what their value are.
Example: Black family and Weasley family. They are family so they got sorted in the same houses, Weasley in Griffyndor and Black in Slytherin. Because they had value over what their family teaching them. But Sirius in Griffyndor means that his value was different then his entire family. Hermione was in Griffyndor because even tho she is a book worm and ambitious, but what she valued was a bravery and courage. Soo, yeah, one person value based what houses you will get.
Well, for one thing, it doesn't sort you based on your qualities alone, it also reads what you value most. Neville doesn't display much courage early on, but he values it. Hermione values Courage over Intelligence, which is why she isn't a Ravenclaw. Also, Slytherin is not the Evil House. It's Ambition. It just so happens that evil people are ambitious, so they normally go there.
I’m surprised that the twins aren’t ravenclaws or slytherin, they are just as cunning and creative as they are brave, especially with all of the sneaky pranks they do.
See, I stand by the idea that not all Slytherin's are assholes. Their main trait is Ambition, which CAN be altruistic and beneficial to not only the individual, but society.
Every Slytherin has Ambition, but not every Slytherin wants to watch the world burn.
There's interesting argument to be made that ambition is often portrayed as evil because positive uses of ambition might necessitate the plot tackling themes of systemic change. A lot of stories find it easier to simply have the conflict be about preserving the best of the current status quo without much change to the the underlying structures.
From this viewpoint, ambition can only create change which risks disturbing what the story is saying to value and protect.
For whatever reason, the character Roy Mustang from Fullmetal Alchemist comes to mind as an incredibly ambitious character who helps bring about dramatic sweeping change, but the whole story was written around that sort of systemic change from the beginning. Still think he'd make a great Slytherin though.
How am I a Hufflepuff? You literally stated ME LOL
Pettigrew is probably the best example of the hat being wrong.
Slytherins aren’t characterized by selfishness alone
One can use cunning and inner strength for the service of others, and one can be ambitious for power and intelligence for the sake of helping others
Hufflepuffs are not just hard working, they are also caring and humble. Sometimes lazy people are those that lack ambition and don’t really want more than the simple life
They’ll also the moderate house that includes traits of other houses
Ravenclaws are characterized by their capacity to learn, and desire knowledge, succeeding in tests doesn’t characterize intelligence alone as part of the time it’s really displaying recall and repetition. One can still be knowledgeable and desire to learn and not always succeed on tests
For Griffindors, some have the potential of bravery, which to be courageous one must overcome fear, and not everyone can overcome fear.
The Sorting Hat in this and other cases may sort by one’s potential in that house and not everyone can achieve their potential
Wormtail is an example of that, as he could have been brave if he had overcome his fear
I mean peter pettigrew was a coward and he’s Gryffindor. Shape shows immense bravery but is a Slytherin, and isn’t quite exactly seeking power.. however he does favor his mothers side of his family adopting the name half blood prince, as prince was her maiden name. His father was muggle. But in the books dumbledore even admits that he believes the sorting process is done too early. It could very well mean peoples traits can change and aren’t likely aligned to that house anymore. It’s sad because I like to believe if snape knew some of these secrets how the hat worked he could’ve been closer to Lilly
It's certainly possible for a student to change into something their house represents. Neville was hardly what you'd call courageous early on. But by the end of Order of the Phoenix, he was much more brave and gutsy. And by Deathly Hallows, he was almost completely unrecognizable from his first year.
peter pettigrew was the biggest mistake the sorting house made. He actually put him into gryffindor. Also, have you noticed in the movie the sorting hats eyes and mouth are marked by folds, but in the book it is by holes
Well, ambition doesn’t necessarily oppose selflessness, neither does intelligence mean you can’t be bad in school and so on. The hat sorts based on the qualities it sees in the students but he has no influence (or knowledge) about who these students might become.
It’s not just who they are but What they value, what their current personality is, and what they have the potential to become…
Look at nevil, no one would think he would be a griffindor, but he ended up become the leader of the DA in the final book, being the only one to stand up to Voldemort after Harry was killed… he only reached his potential because he was placed in griffindor.
It’s never made a mistake. An example being how Wormtail deserved to go into gryffindor.
Okay, first of all. The Sorting Hat sorts based on what you VALUE, not what you are. Most of the time, what you value becomes what you are, but there are a few cases where that isn’t the case. Peter Pettigrew valued bravery, even though he didn’t turn out brave. Slughorn valued ambition, but he was still a very kind man. Tonks and Newt valued hard work, yet they were both so brave. And Hermione valued bravery over intelligence.
Talks about how the hat makes mistakes, almost serious tone.
Then "check out this wand that blasts fireballs!"
Wow, this broke me😂
Few mistakes. Wormtail, Lockhart, Percy, and one could argue the trio.
The Sorting Hat is never wrong in its decisions. The hat takes everything into account when placing into students into their respective houses.
Such considerations include; the qualities the student exhibit, the great potential of which house could challenge and devolope the student, the values the student holds most value, and above all the student's preferences.
Hermione could have been in Ravenclaw, but she was already a known it all; the most brightest witch of her class. However, Ravenclaw wouldn't have challenged her to devolope qualities that she admitted were ideal- she confessed to harry that friendship and bravery were most important.
i was sorted into hufflepuff through the website and "lazy but gifted academically" sums up my entire high school experience
I think the problem isn’t even the hats making mistakes it’s just the idea one house by itself is enough, Clearly people can change or exhibit multiple aspects and the house system itself gives off a very limited idea of self
My boss must be SO jealous of the Sorting Hat
Why couldn't Slytherin exhibit selflessness or altruism?
Why are we just marked as a holes?
Eh it's not really mistakes, it usually goes by what the person *values* the most. So when there were students like Hermione, Peter Pettigrew and even Harry, it did take a bit of time to decide on them because it could imagine them being in 2 different houses but weighed what values they cared about most. This is also why Sirius was a Gryffindor and not a Slytherin.
Idk. Selflessness is a great way to win allies, so a Slytherin would absolutely surround themselves with useful people in order to climb higher themselves.
At also can commit "Hat Stalls" where is doesn't actually know what house you should be placed in...it "hat stalled" for Hermione and Neville
Slytherin can show altruism while being rightly sorted.
The hat simply sees the potential of a student but its not for sure that the student is gonna reach that potential. The perfect example is Neville, he got sorted into Gryffindor yet he was a total wimp.
I think the hat sees the true soul of the person, not their hobbies or traits they learned, so when it makes "mistakes" it's because the true essence of the person is not what they appear to be
The sorting hat bases it’s decisions off of what you value most, not what you actually have in you.
It make any mistakes. It actually challenge student to do better. Just because they fail it doesn’t mean the sorting hat is wrong. It just mean they need to improve their lives.
Merlin was once a Slytherin
as someone who the Sorting Hat mistaked as a Hufflepuff, (i’m a Ravenclaw) _I see this as an absolute win._
You would have to think if a Ravenclaw was good at everything else including getting in to the common room and doing well in class then somethings up that clearly if they fail their tests and no one is looking in to.
I don't think the sorting hat really makes mistakes, more of people have the wrong idea that just because you're a coward you can't be brave vice versa. And so do being sorted to other houses with other traits
Neville, Sirius and Luna are the best examples for me
It DOESN'T make mistakes though, it admits students into the House that the founders would have chosen.
Me: hufflepuff;
Also me: *counts on fingers for 10+4*
I think The Sorting Hat sees the person's potential. Not everyone lives up to their potential.
I had _The Potential_ to be a great pianist.
I was really good at a young age, but despite _The Potential,_ I didn't have the love to practice the five hours every day that it would have taken to hone my skill to live up to that _Potential._
I am happier as an adult as a fair musician who has lived a life filled with travel and to have worked with my hands in other ways.
The hat isn't failing. It's taking personal preferences into account
The hat never makes a mistake! The only explanation why the hat sort students in the wrong houses because other students will ask the hat to place them in that particular house. Just like the case of Harry, when he asked the hat to place him anywhere but not in Slytherin. So the hat grant him that and placed him in Gryffindor.
Hat also take care of choices
I think it just goes to show that there are exceptions and outliers in all groups of people. Not all Ravenclaws are scholars, not all Slytherins are resourceful, not all Asians are smart, not all white people are racist, not all black people are ignorant😁just because we’re in a specific group doesn’t mean that everyone in that group is the same.
There isn’t one specific way you act in order to be placed in a house like it’s not that easy to be categorized because humans are complex. So if there is part of u that doesn’t identify with ur house the hat prolly put u in the house to work on that part of you
It's because it's what they believe in not what they are
To be fair that hat takes in consideration for what the student wants to be in too
The hat also clearly takes into account what the person wants.
Godric Gryffindor actually created the Sorting Hat
Like Peter Pettigrew. He was THE coward. The biggest mistake ever
It definitely made a mistake not sorting Peter petigrew into slytherin. He shows all the traits of a slytherin but is somehow in gryfindoor
Merlin’s bara tiddies, it’s been more than a decade since the series has been concluded and people _still_ don’t understand that the Sorting is based on traits a student values, *not* traits they have.
You dont get sorted by your qualities but by what qualities you yourself value most thats why for example Hermione is in Gryffindor because she values bravery more than other qualities and sometimes those qualities are hidden like Neville he is not that brave in the beginning but because he values bravery he later on becomes more brave