How I sort Gold, Palladium, Silver and Precious Metals after depopulating circuit boards
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2016
- A little look at how I sort my precious metal bits after depopulating circuit boards, gold pins and connectors need further sorting and picking out the pins but most everything else can be sorted straight into containers ready for recovery or sale.
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I don't get a lot of boards like you Ben, usually 1 to 3 a week. With some rare exceptions. Like when I seen a scrapper who I never seen before left a real nice dolly/trolley on the road, I picked it up so I could give it back to him (most of the other scrappers around here would have kept it). It took me about 30 minutes to catch up to him. He is mostly a steel scrapper. When I told him I do ewaste like pc's he ask me to follow him to his storage locker. He gave me a box of 39 mother boards for returning his dolly. That was awesome. But what I was getting at, is since I don't get a lot like you, yet. I depopulate 1 board at a time and separate as I go. When I start to get bigger and bigger I'm getting an air hammer!!!
I can provide good quantity of Boards from India
which type of boards
good to see someone from oz making a good video. makes it so much easier when people talk in the video. not just point with writing. good work Ewaste Ben.
April 2020 and this is one of the best scapping videos I have seen. I wish I had this back when I only scrapped full boards (going back to 1994). I am an irregular gold scrapper, once every few years.
Must say this is one of your finest basic level videos that I have seen!You explained and described the key components to be looking for (and why) easily and clearly (your accent makes me smile!)For somebody new to E-scrap/E-waste recycling at the hobbyist level, THANK YOU!Stay Safe...Scrappy Badger
Yea if you wanna do a bunch of work that isnt needed
standard youtube commenter, makes a claim regarding other peoples opinions and ideas and then does not expose their opinion because they know it will be picked apart. Go on, step out of the shadows and explain yourself, so we can see if you look like the troll you smell like@@chosen1one930
I came here for sorting but Im SOOOOOO happy about that air hammer trick. I love you for it man.
yep i bought an air hammer and compressor after seeing this
I had to watch this again to refresh my memory on metals to keep. Thanks so much for the information Ben
Idk why a lot of people talk bad about Ben repeating himself, to be honest I rather have someone be themselves, actually genuine. Is willing to go out of there way, to take the time and teach something to someone. I like to put theses videos on while I scrap just to have back noise and to learn a thing or two. There is a few really good you tube scrappers I get a lot of info. from, but IMO eWaste Ben is Top 5 for me.
"It's easy to judge. It's more difficult to understand. Understanding requires compassion, patience, and a willingness to believe that good hearts sometimes choose poor methods. Through judging, we separate. Through understanding, we grow."
e WasteBen bro your recycle advise is solid gold!
I like the name "crumbles" bucket. Thanks for the video Ben,this one must have slipped past me. I've been taking far too much stuff off the boards. This
video helped me a lot.
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Thanks so much, you really help me out!
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i dont know how i got here, ive never done any thing like this before, but im enjoying it... have a like
best 45 minutes worth of information on something cool thanks Ben...
Watching 4 years later and this is teaching us a lot!
hahaha that airhammer action was so satisfying to watch! I think I get myself a airhammer just to do that!
i agree
I'd like to find a miniature cordless electric version of the air chisel.
I’ve had one this whole time. I feel like an idiot now for not using it
I love the hammer trick. great video. Great conclusion on not harvesting all components but cherry picking and selling the hard to recover low end stuff. You got my sub!
There's alot of Urban Miners/Scrappers and Ben is the best. I watch this guy all the way from the otherside of the world. NYC!
Thanks Ben....I'm sure I'll work it out after watching more of your vids and re-watching the others! You're actually the next level of info on eWaste recycling as most others simply regurgitate each others' vids. No one's gone into the depth of the components and their values/identification. Glad I subscribed when I did. Peace.
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Thank you awesome video with no BS, i have an idea for you, use sifter with different sizes holes to speed up the process. Hope that will help
Just a couple of tips if I may for your “crumbs” that may speed up the sorting for you. We used to process 15 tons + of this stuff a week, mainly milgrade or telecom boards so quite heavy plating and high grade chips. If you use a garden riddle/sieve initially it will get most of the larger caps etc out, then use a large magnet on a tray to pick out any ferrous bits, this will help filter out most of the screws into another batch what you’re left with us mainly smaller gold pins etc. I found doing this just speeds up the process.
Thank you very much Ben for this informative video. I too really find it therapeutic sorting through all the metals from boards, into silver, gold etc..
its a fantastic video ben i have no idea what all the components are and with you repeating what each thing is .is a great help .im learning heaps great help .
That intro is funny... I depopulate boards to use the components so I'm always really careful and gentle... So watching your brute-force technique makes me smile.
that FPGA of 0:10 was worth more than 10 USD...
put a coffee filter over a vacuum nozzle and vacuum up all loose metals off of what appears to be carpeting on your bench.. Then hold vacuum nozzle over a bucket and turn off vacuum depositing loose metals into bucket.
Just put a clean bag in and vacuum it period
Thanks for the lessons and clarification Sir!
I do own an airhamer,& will put it to work on Monday...
Great information BEN!
Good and informative video. Thanks.
I wish somebody would do a video to show the processing of the Crystals!
love that air hammer trick-recently joined silverstackers and subbed your channel-ozcopper sent me
looks like fun to sort that stuff .. i really like your videos ..
Like an A10 on the field. Brrrr. Brrrr. Brrr. Love it!
most helpful video I have seen. thank you
have a like!
+Cody'sLab This video has been recommended after your videos for a while so I finally clicked on it. :P
same here
Ayyyyy It's Cody!!
hi dad
Cody'sLab fkn epic Cody liked it!!!
I Love your enthusiasm and vids
the art of turning a 3 and half minute video into a 45 minute one
Hey: 🖕🏼
@@alan30189 that's not nice
Dylan Sacco - Where’s your “that’s not nice,“ response to Andy 851’s comment?
@@alan30189 if you say a slur UA-cam automatically deletes them, but you still get the notification
@@dylansacco2481 it's funny though
I don't know why this is interesting to me, but I can't stop watching. LOL good stuff dude.
Thank you for the instruction. I have just started the e waste project. This is the most inclusive video as far as the start to finish process. Thank you for your time.
Good informative video. I especially appreciated the information on the tantalum.
This is only the second video of yours I have seen, but I love it. Well done. Thank you so much for being so thorough. Maybe try editing a little bit though. Just an idea. No big deal.
Get the transistors too and sort them with the ICs. Transistors also have gold bond wires, sometimes multiple ones per pin for increased current capacity. It's not much compared to the BGAs, but it might add up.
Maybe going over the crumble with a magnet would help picking out the screws and crystal oscillators more quickly?
Oh i want to do all the sorting of the crumbles so bad! That would be so satisfying!
Omg I was dying watching you do that over carpet lol.
Hey, it is a fastest method to removal chips that I ever seen ;-). How you got tin, lead, copper from rest of material? (e.g. from PCB?)
4 years later, he’s still sorting the scrap, a never ending loop until everything is cashed in🤔
I can't believe you did that in the carpet lol 😆
Love you're method's, have hundred's of board'd never knew which widigits to remove.
Why not use a neodinyum magnet to go through your crumble first and pick up anything that's attracted to it that may have metals attracted to that magnet. that way you have greater separation from the items that are not attracted to the magnet.
Thanks for posting this video as it is very informative. What I never knew about was the air hammer. That will turn an hours worth of depopulating down to about 10 minutes or so. I looked at some inexpensive air hammers on eBay, but I don't know what type of air tank or such to use with an air hammer. Can you point me to something complete like what you have?
On another note, you will speed up your separating of your small parts if you get a stack-able "classifier". They come in different sizes and diameters. All you do is pour maybe a cup full of material into it and shake the classifier and all the material will sift according to size into each classifier. After you do that, all you have to do is take each classifier and sort from there. With what you had in that white 5 gallon bucket, you can classify all of that material in less than an hour, and then sort from there.
Thanks again for the video and I hope this info helps!
Hey RonRefiner2014 can you point me in the right direction to score one of these classifieds you speak of? I have a very nice stack of flat screens that I am going to start tearing apart soon and could use any and all tools, experience, cheats, know how, etc. This video and your post gave already put ne way ahead of the game. Thanks
You are a real pro, Ben...
I know nothing about chips. But I do know about rocks. When we sort rocks we use different size mesh to grate the different sized rocks. Thought I would toss that your way. I bet different size mesh would help speed up your sort. Love what you are doing.❤❤❤😊❤❤❤
From the description I was expecting a cool process involving magnets or something not just yeah I dump them on a table and pick out the bits worth saving lol
thegoodbadmusic actually he did it on a carpet
I'm going to be honest. I only subbed so I could hear you say "coppah", like, forever.
You have FAR more patience than I could muster.
I'm impressed with the air gun tool
Your the man. Thanks for the video. ✔ liked, subbed and shared.
Also, dont pay too much attention to the hating people. These are your videos and you make them awesome mate. So just do what you keep doing making a great video.
air chisel... you just made my life so much easier.
Good to see that these are not ending up in the wasteland trash dumps..
they dont anyways,, and bigger ones always been recycled./ just that now smaler ones are too. finallly.
I dig the hell outta the mindset Ben! If I was OVER UNDER... Id really would ask to be your apprentice... ( "over" coming from California) learning from the best hands on...man... INSPIRATION
omfg that is brilliant thank you im going to use a air chisel take off the parts
As always in your videos a well thought methodical approach to sorting. You get a star Ben :-)
The only thing I harvest different to you is the Aluminium jacketed capacitors, Yeah its a pain picking them off but there's usually so many you build up a huge pile very quickly so I still think its worth it.
Where do you sell this stuff at
One way you could help sort out the aluminum/plastic from the iron, copper, and gold would be to use a very dense liquid to float the metal. You could pour it in a big bin and give everything a toss before sifting. I don't know if there are any liquids heavy enough to float anything past a density of 3g/cm^3 but it's a thought.
Ben you sound like a mad man to common folk but you are a very smart person for sorting everything to this level of detail. You should be retired very soon, comfortable and easy life ahead of you.
Great video! Screw the haters say that 5 times Ben!
I found myself watching this video several times over the past year. Initially I did not like your process of mechanical separation. However as I sit with 120 pounds of motherboards I see the brilliance of this method. It is tedious work but with gold panning filter screens you could speed up the process of recovery. Just need a good method of removing the pins from the PCI and IDE connectors. Thanks.
I am still thinking about this air chisel method in comparison with how I normally do it (Outdoor oven+ tapping it to remove 90% of surface mounts, then re-heat and putty knife). I usually use the boards for art projects and sell the removed items by the kilogram.
I also think the air chisel is a good idea because for years and years I've been using an old knife to cut the flatpacks off on 3 sides, then tear them off. On the caterpillar type ICs with the thicker connectors I break the board strategically with pincers to get to one side and then metal-fatigue the other one. Then again, I'm doing this in my apartment at 2 am while listening to lectures on UA-cam and I only do a little per day.
On the PCI and IDE and other connectors I basically do it by hand. I use the pincers to get to the connector and then remove it from the board so that some leads are showing out the bottom, then use either pincers or hemistats to pull the pins out one by one, then clip the soldered parts off. Same goes for ISA or AGP sockets, where some of the newer ones have only part of them plated with Gold that I subsequently clip off. One motherboard will take about 2 hours to do, and I'm left with a whole mess of circuit board substrate fragments which get unceremoniously chucked in the regular garbage. Never knew there was a demand for them. But I did one time start saving all the aluminium capacitors and was surprised when I sold a kilo of them on Aukro for 600 Crowns (USD 30) so I've started saving them as well, in addition to transistors for their Germanium. I basically save everything of value, separated by type.
On some of the connectors, even the method I described is impossible, like some CPU sockets, so these get placed in a different bin to be sold eventually. The on-board pins, like jumpers, are easy to twist off with hemistats or needle nose pliers once you've removed any plastic from either their base or midsection with an awl.
I'm beginning to get I to e scrap this was great and informative mate cheers
3 year old video, this is the 2nd time watching, if you cut the pins the gold plated connectors then it's leaving half the pins in that category in the board and in the solder that's only getting 1/2 the yield unless they're ground, cut or heated then there's the percentage unseen probably even in the sleuth box in the tailings unless you have a electron microscope instead of looking for pieces gold bond wire where there's pieces there's bits of pieces, grinding it up and allowing more time to settle in the water might give better results.
great idea to use the air hammer, but use a rubber band to keep the blade against the pusher thing inside the gun, so you dont have to press it down against something for it to work.
but god damn. Get to the point faster.
also, it probably helps A LOT to work on the left overs from like 3 boards at a time, instead of what looks to be stuff from 40 boards.
ive found that its best to finish one scrapping project COMPELTELY, before starting another project.
ill tear apart a washing machine and have the brain box things, i take those apart after i get rid of the big stuff, and all i have in the very end is a copper, aluminum Steel Core from the motor that i have to use a cut off wheel on
you seem to have a "bigger scale" scrapping style.. though.. so idk..
I agree
I CAN'T STAND HOW HE FINDS FIVE TO SIX DIFFERENT, YET STILL THE SAME WAYS TO GET HIS POINT ACROSS FOR EVERY SUBJECT. GRRRRR!!!!!!
Pretty sure he did it intentionally because some people still don't get why he does what he does. Lol
As someone who has never sorted this ewaste before.
I can say with certainty that there would be faster less hands on ways of doing it.
Ie...float out the capacitors in water to start with.
Understanding specific gravity would help with sorting out heavier items.
Then a screen setup just lile mining with screen sizes varying through to screens to sort out the pins.
In just these three suggestions i can see hours saved.
Then using the magnetic affect utilised in aluminium sorting you could strip away the aluminium components in one swoop.
1 size screening
2 floating off capacitors
3 specific gravity ie shaker table(also used to seperate heavy materials from light)
Maybe a ferrous magnet to get out screws ,,but im not sure.
Tell me your thoughts,
Im just inherently lazy and would always lopk to finding the easiest quickest way to do something
Also another thought,
Induction heater idea.
Using an induction coil, pull a insulated wire through and the heat generated on the wire would be enough to separate the two in a simple way....
Any thoughts??
Do not use your brain here. This is UA-cam.
Ty, great video. I really learned and enjoyed friend !! 👍
Take a shot every time he says “yellow tantalum capacitors”.
I would be so wasted. 🤣
I'm fucking hammered
Well shit I just got up it's now 12:56 pm and there 2 empty bottles of jim beam in the floor. Wtf....
Were do u get all the boards
from electronic rubish in the street. walk a little and you will find someting. scanners, pc, modems, dvd, etc.
Cool and interesting video 👍👍👍 good job brother.
Wow that must be a nightmare to sort ....happy Halloween Ben
lol at all the assholes telling Ben he repeats himself. I don't mind. I love playing these vids in the background over and over while I'm working. Keep it up, Ben.
The post above yours says " That drill sounds like a pig.".
So I responded - " It`s not a drill and THAT is why he repeats himself.".
Seems many cant even get a simple concept after being told multiple times and it just pisses me off.
People just don't listen anymore and many wouldn't use their eyes if their life depended on it.
Noevilea what I wasn't paying attention? I couldn't hear over his drill.😂😂
like?
Vid is informative but very repetitive, then when he holds up pieces to the camera it's for only a quarter second and he's shaking like he's about to overdose on cocaine.
Interesting, but you really don't need to repeat yourself five times.
Really ?
When some people need to be told the same shit over and over and they still don't get it ?
Your point is a mute point if people cant get simple instructions the first time.
Noevilea he he
yeah he dose rabbit on and on and on
Agreed
Noevilea moot
Wow! This is a lifetime job!
I meant the MLCC's lookalike marked with an "R". I thought you and others said those are resistors. I have no idea about inductors.... I watched your video on separating MLCC's before mass depopulation to get top return in palladium and silver. I've gained a lot of info on this subject from you and appreciate your time spent making the vids! Thanks again a,
oh yes them ones are resistors, they are flat and have a number on top, the inductors I was talking about look exactly like an mlcc. so yeah, those resistors are easy to spot because the number and usually white underneath.
It would have been very interesting/informative to hear how much gold he had in all that scrap.
Probably under an ounce.
Does this help with compulsive disorders or make them worse? you're absolutely charming.
haha LMAO!
Currently I find it very time consuming to DE populate the boards by and soldering it completely. I'm working in a confined space and don't have a lot of Room to do it the way you are doing it but that seems like it would be much faster and makes more sense. Hopefully in the future I can get Myspace clean and do it the way you're doing it. Thank you so much for your video very inspiring and learned some things.
Your filming style cracks me up
to whom are you selling this depopulated boards
scrap yards buy them
@@bigredinfinity3126 Maybe where Ben is it yes but in my little neck of the woods (Central Wyoming) none of my recyclers (all 2 of them) don't buy motherboard at all
Selling desoldered electronic parts would give you more money, then scraping them, because those parts contains very low amount of precious metals.
I know this is old but you have no idea what your talking about
Have you tried using a graduated size screen sorting? 5 gallon buckets worth the bottom chopped off and replaced with a screen, and stacked one on top the other, and sift filtering your crumble through that?
You can also run the crumble through large and medium sized metal screen filters with strong magnets attached to separate plastic and non-magnetic metals.
Another magnetic filter is just a big magnet wrapped in a thick garbage bag for quick magnet disconnect and keeps the magnet clean.
You can also use a water dunk to separate plastics. A shallow wide colander type drainer placed in a slightly larger container with light sifting to separate floatables.
Those might be some methods of pre-sorting that will make the final sort much simpler.
Very good and super informative
Hey from iowa send me an Australian tag. For my wall
Why do you depolulate over a carpet? a nice flat clean surface would be better
+danielcreampuff try it, it noisy and the vibration is crazy
+eWaste Ben Yep some folks have never done things but always have suggestions carpet catches the stuff so it's not skittering across to back.
+eWaste Ben haha was about to ask the same
Anybody who's ever popped electrical circuitry off would either do it in a box or somewhere it wouldn't just skitter here and there.
+danielcreampuff He sells the carpet at the end of the year.
Hey thanks for the video looking to get into this as a hobby to do in spare time and this helped alot!!!
Glad to hear it!
Gonna have to try this air hammer one day. I just use a chisel. Been collecting for over 10 years now and it's time to do something with it.
I bet you get some valuable splinters in your fingers:)
i bet you scrapped things that were worth $$$, i saved a few vintage ibm video cards that i sold one for $500 and saving one for future investments
Probably true, one man's junk is indeed another man's treasure. Many older memory sticks are worth more now that they are becoming scarce.
You had a supply when the demand was high. You may not ever have demand for the second video card, but then it may be worth twice as much as before. It is a gamble as to what you hold onto and for how long. Knowing what you have and it's value is key if your goal is to make the most money possible. For instance at 29:15 the SST27SF020 (Many Time Programmable Flash) chip is selling for about $1.40 each in lots of 10 on EBAY as of today 12/06/2016 and at 30:26 the M27C4001 (UV EPROM) is selling for between $1.50 and $3.00 each. I would suspect that the value of these two chips may be greater than their value for the scrap gold in the bond wires. Once you start dealing with e-waste in volume it may not be desirable to go to the effort of stocking, selling, shipping, and customer hassle of dealing with individual boards or parts.
Regardless of that I found it interesting to see how the depopulated materials are sorted.
3 minutes in and I already have a new fav video! THIS is the info I have been seeking for a while now. Thank you yet AGAIN! First like! (And I think I made the first comment too!)
+lost in the tundra Thanks mate, i'm glad you got something out of it, thanks for liking it too.
Great tips & I think you can use a bag less vacuum to clean your carpet of all your pins & use a mesh strainer to sort out your fines like pins, Use large + med & fine + Super fine mesh to sort out your components, Have to tried this before? you can make it even a power vibrating mesh strainer might save time
i need that tool hahahahaha
"you should use a blender to depopulate your boards" :P
i do this to separate my gold pins
@random_rapper 20 if you use a blender you would destroy the chips and boards rendering them useless for recycling
Love the desoldering gun...
That really was a cracking video (y)
Arent those capacitors full of coltan? People buying depopulated boards might be fleecing you... worth some research.
I did some research and by the looks of it some of the visible capacitors contain coltan, id say his buyers might be fleecing him
The aluminium ones that are shaped like batteries have just aluminium, but the plastic ones that look like the Greek letter Omega contain Tantalum. I once sold a kilo of them (mixed) on Aukro, a European auction site for the equivalent of 30 USD which led me to reasearch them more thoroughly, so nowadays I save all the plastic ones. BTW coltan is a natural mineral, whereas tantalum is a metal. An expensive metal, because even tantalum ore costs 160 USD per kilo!
www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/tantalite-ore/
And the price from tantalum pure?
Coltan has received interesting news coverage as of late. Very valuable to the weapons industry. Apparently Venezuela has rich deposits.
considering you are processing so many parts and each part has a specific shape weight and size wouldnt it be worth your time to make a series of grids/grates that only allow specific components to fall into a generic collection point for easier processing, obviously the pins would be the easiest thing to collect since theyre the smallest part but the rest should easily be sortable using either specific gravity (air flow to lift parts up a a tunnel with a collection for the heavier components much like how paper processors remove metal and glass.
just an idea.
yeah good idea in a way, the problem is the same components are all different sizes, so an mlcc can be as big as a fingernail or as small as a grain of rice, so we would still have to sort the mixes.
I agree as I watched this video I started thinking of the exact same thing, but he'll have to get an estimated size per item to do so, but it would still be a good idea to use multiple sieves and sleves to process the several components
Looking at the initial sort a screening system that was suggested would definately help reduce the sort time but definately would need a little aftersorting but not nearly as much. The long shinny ones the larger squares and then the alluminum capacitors could quite easily ve separated. Good thanks for the info!
Using magnets it should be possible to separate thing like the pins and screws from other higher value stuff. Start with that and then use sorting grates to sift through different sized things.
Tumbler is a better option just making hash you have different grade of wire to sort big from small . Load tumbler turn on for an hour and then sort.
Ben I’ve found those red, yellow, blue, orange and white plugs covers are brass. I’ve been getting out there and brought in 200 pounds of them and it depends on your scrap yard on what they classify them as either yellow brass or silver coated brass
Very good advice...thanks!