So I personally think Ryu is a bit weaker in Season 2. I personally don't like how Medium and Heavy Shoryuken do the exact same damage and stun. Thanks for watching guys! Like, Comment, Share, or Subscribe. Happy New Years!
yeah i agree. after playing a few matches with him. Ryu is completely, and i hate to admit it, weaker than i thought. V-reversal is nerf hard. V-trigger is no longer a threat. it's just purely cosmetics. And worst of all His damage output just sucks ass with useless buffs.... I would rather play as "Dan Hibiki" than Ryu at this point.
like why the hell they they make his medium dp and hard dp do the same damage..... like wtf was that even for? jesus. and they nerf his best footsie normal, his standing short........
You know what's even more sad. His medium Shoryuken is better than Heavy Shoryuken even though the damage is the same.....ending a Medium Shoryuken will leave Ryu at the advantage to follow up a meaty. And you can't use it half the time because it whiffs off from light hit confirms. and because Ryu has more push back on his lights....He has to end it with Heavy Shoryuken instead. And why is it that out of Akuma and Ken...He is the only shoto character with a Shoryuken damage nerf.....
seriously tho and honestly the only nerf ryu needs was his stand jab and throws. that is it! nothing else needs to be even touched........ he be fine but nope, they have to nerf him to the next millennial.
Hi NurseLee, Wow! Haha!^_^ You look like me in some of those setups. I actually found a few of those during my first 3hrs. in season #2. As long as I'm able to edit video next month, I'll show you some of the setups I found that aren't demonstrated here. I innovated a concept during my first season that I know you'll like because you almost found it. Keep up the great work! With your setups, other Ryu setups, and my setups, we'll make Ryu great again! - KaizenMaster
Thanks! and although i do think Ryu is some what weaker, however His pressure game is going to be more interesting. Now that his EX-Hadoukens are +2 on block, he can always been in your face. And his Medium Punch is a great button. Thanks for watching Kaizen and Happy New Years man!
yea i did find some good stuff. And he still had a great tech from season 1 that still can work in season 2. However, in season 2 now it's a bit trickery to use because they nerf his Sonic Scythe on hit, but it still possible to do. And what Nash can do is after a sonic scythe, he can meaty his Ex-Sonic Boom, which will cover "quick-rise and back-Rise" at the same time. Then if he has V-trigger ready, he can force the opponent to eat the mix up. I'll go more into depth once in the video is out.
Awesome! I did find the EX boom set up along with some other stuff from watching Yukadon replays. I am loving how they buffed his meaty pressure this season. Anyways, keep up the good work : )
I will cover Delay-Wakeup Options eventually with Ryu. However, there are still setups I still need to go over with normal-Rise and Back-Rise setups with Shoryuken, EX-Tatsuaki, EX-Fireball, Denjin-Hadouken and etc. After all of those setups are establish, then I'll create a video where we can use those setups and apply it for Delay-Wake up options. in other words, I'll make a video where I can try to help out for process of elimination on the wake-up game.
Yeah and unfortunately i got the shots right, but my editing skills still need improvement. I keep having trouble translating the information because these shots are not done in one take, and after re-takes over and over again, it becomes muscle memory, and i keep neglecting the information. But hey! we all make mistakes from time to time. So sorry for the wrong information, but the setups what Ryu does are actually correct. Thanks for watching and take care man!
Hi Nurselee, Great video on meaty setups really good job, but can you tell me a bit more about the back recovery setups? all of those are point blank sweep, im not sure about you, but i don't like to use sweep in my opponents face, I'm assuming not all of them work from every range? if so which ones? Shindoru
The best Setup for Back-Rise Sweep is # 1. Dash into St.Mk will mostly work from all ranges and thanks to his Cr.MP having more range on the hit box. I was going to say that most of the back-rise were going to be" corner only", but it turns out Ryu can do those meatys from mid screen. Thanks for watching Shindoru and take care man!
Bit new to fighting games in general. Just wondering what is the purpose of the attacks you use that purposefully whiff. Is it purely to aid in the timing of the meaty? How feasible is it to successfully time a meaty without using the preliminary whiffing normal?
So I'll try to keep it simple as possible. So yes whiffing those normal's will aid the attack to become Meaty. And these setup for Ryu are perfect; however, you must predict the opponents wake up to become an meaty attack, yet if you score a hard knockdown, then you are rewarded a guarantee setup. And manually timing the attack without whiffing can be tough depending on the character, and depending on the Frame data of the attack. and what your opponent decides to do on their wake up. Furthermore, Meaty attacks will dynamically change the frame advantage on hit and block. And you can stack it if it's a counter hit. For example, at Normal Rise Setup 3 Ryu's Standing Jab is +4 on hit and on Counter-Hit it's +6. Yet crouching MK is a 7 frame startup attack, yet some how combos. And it's because That Meaty Jab is actually +5 on hit, and since Counter-Hit properties reward +2 for any attack, it now becomes +7 instead. Sorry if I talk too much , but i hope i answer your question successfully. And if you have more, feel free to ask me more. Take care Darius M.
Nice content, I will practice some new meaty setups subscribed also one question, will you make some matchups video? for example, ryu vs Rog? =) I really don't know what should I do against fucking nigga actually I think Ryu can do nothing with him right now , I guess the best option for Ryu it's play very defensive and try keep close distance, anti air 100% jump in\out eutral , tech throws, and do not push buttons cuz opponent can score some lucky CC or whiff punish you (cuz their normal a way better than yours, and they can spam normal all day with benefit) , just wait some trash and punish it Even Nigga's dash punch can be punish if you'll block it from close distance Also nice trick is parry during block string and punish . Some people really don't like think during the match and do the same things over and over again (for example Cammy's cr MP cr MP blockstring), really deadbrain people. After first one cr. MP you can try parry second one and punish with cr. MK x EX Hadouken with follow up (meaty st. MP > follow up depending have you score counter hit or not) And when your opponent with his cheap character a little bit confuse (if you do everything good in defense), you can switch on offensive game for short period, after go back to defense.
I probably will think about it, but what you describe for Ryu is one of the reasons why he is one of the weakest characters in the game. I personally feel that you cannot play the fundamentals with Ryu any more because of the changes in Season 2. Instead i feel that SFV Season 2 is all about the rushing down your opponent and putting them into 50/50 setups, and it overall becomes a one-sided game.
Yes that is true. Good players just use their eyes to meaty and that's should be everyone's goal. However, Just because Ryu is whiffing normals doesn't always have to opt for a meaty. thanks for watching and take care man!
So I personally think Ryu is a bit weaker in Season 2. I personally don't like how Medium and Heavy Shoryuken do the exact same damage and stun. Thanks for watching guys! Like, Comment, Share, or Subscribe. Happy New Years!
he got nerfed from the devil himsel...... damn it capcom! whyyyyyy
yeah i agree. after playing a few matches with him. Ryu is completely, and i hate to admit it, weaker than i thought. V-reversal is nerf hard. V-trigger is no longer a threat. it's just purely cosmetics. And worst of all His damage output just sucks ass with useless buffs.... I would rather play as "Dan Hibiki" than Ryu at this point.
like why the hell they they make his medium dp and hard dp do the same damage..... like wtf was that even for? jesus. and they nerf his best footsie normal, his standing short........
You know what's even more sad. His medium Shoryuken is better than Heavy Shoryuken even though the damage is the same.....ending a Medium Shoryuken will leave Ryu at the advantage to follow up a meaty. And you can't use it half the time because it whiffs off from light hit confirms. and because Ryu has more push back on his lights....He has to end it with Heavy Shoryuken instead. And why is it that out of Akuma and Ken...He is the only shoto character with a Shoryuken damage nerf.....
seriously tho and honestly the only nerf ryu needs was his stand jab and throws. that is it! nothing else needs to be even touched........ he be fine but nope, they have to nerf him to the next millennial.
Hi NurseLee,
Wow! Haha!^_^ You look like me in some of those setups. I actually found a few of those during my first 3hrs. in season #2. As long as I'm able to edit video next month, I'll show you some of the setups I found that aren't demonstrated here. I innovated a concept during my first season that I know you'll like because you almost found it. Keep up the great work! With your setups, other Ryu setups, and my setups, we'll make Ryu great again!
- KaizenMaster
Thanks! and although i do think Ryu is some what weaker, however His pressure game is going to be more interesting. Now that his EX-Hadoukens are +2 on block, he can always been in your face. And his Medium Punch is a great button. Thanks for watching Kaizen and Happy New Years man!
Glad I can run into a informative Ryu Season 2 video on tech. Thank you sir
yep and no problem man. ANd happy new years!
Excellent work! Thanks a lot dude!
No problem man and take care! Also Happy New Years to you!
Thank u! Happy 2017 for u and ur family too!
Thumbs up for some proper music during a practice stage match. That tune is driving me crazy in all other vids.
i lol'ed at the overheard slow down at 3:20. really emphasizes dat nerd lmao
We use to run a lot of endless games in SF4 (reckless mane).
dope video
Really!? That was when i played as Cody. Unfortunately, he's not in SFV, but thanks for watching man. And Happy New Years!
I'm not a Ryu Main but i can't wait till i get the notification that "NursenLee" drops out some SFV Season 2 Ken Meatys.
I'll tell you what. Ken's Meaty are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier to do in this Season 2.
Please tell me that this is a joke ?! Still can't wait for it ! :P
Oh and because you asked, I'll do Ken Next! Take care Zulfikeay
U the man really u know that? I will send u an surprise via Twitter :) Happy X-Mas by the way!
let's just say he link meaty combo into his Lion Breaker and Standing Heavy Punch from normals now.
Will you be doing anything with Nash? That b.MK buff gave him some crazy good meaty set ups.
yea i did find some good stuff. And he still had a great tech from season 1 that still can work in season 2. However, in season 2 now it's a bit trickery to use because they nerf his Sonic Scythe on hit, but it still possible to do.
And what Nash can do is after a sonic scythe, he can meaty his Ex-Sonic Boom, which will cover "quick-rise and back-Rise" at the same time. Then if he has V-trigger ready, he can force the opponent to eat the mix up.
I'll go more into depth once in the video is out.
Awesome! I did find the EX boom set up along with some other stuff from watching Yukadon replays. I am loving how they buffed his meaty pressure this season.
Anyways, keep up the good work : )
Can you show examples of the timing for meaty setups for normal rising?
smbehdjou are you asking the timing without whiffing normals?
smbehdjou quick-rising is normal rising. then back rise or no recocery.
Ok I see... I am asking for timing for meaty attacks when your opponent doesn't quick rise, so I assume that would be no recovery
I will cover Delay-Wakeup Options eventually with Ryu. However, there are still setups I still need to go over with normal-Rise and Back-Rise setups with Shoryuken, EX-Tatsuaki, EX-Fireball, Denjin-Hadouken and etc. After all of those setups are establish, then I'll create a video where we can use those setups and apply it for Delay-Wake up options.
in other words, I'll make a video where I can try to help out for process of elimination on the wake-up game.
Okay thank you... I just subbed and look forward to more of your videos
Um... your number 1 quick-rise has it listed as a Lp, but you show a c.Lp?
Yeah and unfortunately i got the shots right, but my editing skills still need improvement. I keep having trouble translating the information because these shots are not done in one take, and after re-takes over and over again, it becomes muscle memory, and i keep neglecting the information. But hey! we all make mistakes from time to time. So sorry for the wrong information, but the setups what Ryu does are actually correct. Thanks for watching and take care man!
No worries man. In fact, thank you so much for putting this together! Very informative and useful! :D
Thanks and No problem! These can also work with other characters as well, so practice and experiment! Take care man!
Hi Nurselee,
Great video on meaty setups really good job, but can you tell me a bit more about the back recovery setups? all of those are point blank sweep, im not sure about you, but i don't like to use sweep in my opponents face, I'm assuming not all of them work from every range? if so which ones?
Shindoru
The best Setup for Back-Rise Sweep is # 1. Dash into St.Mk will mostly work from all ranges and thanks to his Cr.MP having more range on the hit box. I was going to say that most of the back-rise were going to be" corner only", but it turns out Ryu can do those meatys from mid screen. Thanks for watching Shindoru and take care man!
NurseLee alright!! thanks so much for this ryu vids as well!!! much appreciated
No problem and he definitely has more setups. I'm currently working on his Tatsumaki setups.
NurseLee awesome, can't wait to see what you come up with
Bit new to fighting games in general. Just wondering what is the purpose of the attacks you use that purposefully whiff. Is it purely to aid in the timing of the meaty? How feasible is it to successfully time a meaty without using the preliminary whiffing normal?
So I'll try to keep it simple as possible. So yes whiffing those normal's will aid the attack to become Meaty. And these setup for Ryu are perfect; however, you must predict the opponents wake up to become an meaty attack, yet if you score a hard knockdown, then you are rewarded a guarantee setup.
And manually timing the attack without whiffing can be tough depending on the character, and depending on the Frame data of the attack. and what your opponent decides to do on their wake up.
Furthermore, Meaty attacks will dynamically change the frame advantage on hit and block. And you can stack it if it's a counter hit.
For example, at Normal Rise Setup 3 Ryu's Standing Jab is +4 on hit and on Counter-Hit it's +6. Yet crouching MK is a 7 frame startup attack, yet some how combos.
And it's because That Meaty Jab is actually +5 on hit, and since Counter-Hit properties reward +2 for any attack, it now becomes +7 instead.
Sorry if I talk too much , but i hope i answer your question successfully. And if you have more, feel free to ask me more. Take care Darius M.
you think i should practice all these setups?
I do highly recommend it, but before you try the setups, do you understand the concepts of meaty. And if you do know then by all means, go for it!
NurseLee yes i understand what a meaty is, thank you i will try to learn all these setups.
all right cool! then do it my friend. And happy new years to ya
I like the idea, but who is going to use a sweep so close to the other char like this ?
Luiz Abujamra Ryu doesn't have to hit confirm close. works in all ranges. thanks for watching and take care
If u hit far, dash won't come close enough to meaty, u will whiff
Yes some will indeed whiff, but not all. And that's why I suggest, players to practice and experiment. Ryu still has more setups with sweep.
sure. keep it up man, nice video, liked and subscribed
Haha! Is this someone else who thinks Ryu's smash theme is better than his SFV theme?
I do love his SFV Theme, But the Violin part in Smash Bros WIi U makes it SOOOO much better and I love it.
+NurseLee I think his theme in V is way to busy. it's ok but I think it even sounds worse than his theme in usf4
same here. I do like how it's an orchestra piece than your dub step mix.
Can't waiting for rashid season 2 vid...!
me too. once i saw his buffs, my jaw dropped.
Still waiting for dat Karin video lol
I'll do my best! Thanks for watching and take care! happy New Year too!
Nice content, I will practice some new meaty setups
subscribed
also one question, will you make some matchups video?
for example, ryu vs Rog? =)
I really don't know what should I do against fucking nigga
actually I think Ryu can do nothing with him
right now , I guess the best option for Ryu it's play very defensive and try keep close distance, anti air 100% jump in\out
eutral , tech throws, and do not push buttons cuz opponent can score some lucky CC or whiff punish you (cuz their normal a way better than yours, and they can spam normal all day with benefit) , just wait some trash and punish it
Even Nigga's dash punch can be punish if you'll block it from close distance
Also nice trick is parry during block string and punish .
Some people really don't like think during the match and do the same things over and over again (for example Cammy's cr MP cr MP blockstring), really deadbrain people. After first one cr. MP you can try parry second one and punish with cr. MK x EX Hadouken with follow up (meaty st. MP > follow up depending have you score counter hit or not)
And when your opponent with his cheap character a little bit confuse (if you do everything good in defense), you can switch on offensive game for short period, after go back to defense.
I probably will think about it, but what you describe for Ryu is one of the reasons why he is one of the weakest characters in the game. I personally feel that you cannot play the fundamentals with Ryu any more because of the changes in Season 2.
Instead i feel that SFV Season 2 is all about the rushing down your opponent and putting them into 50/50 setups, and it overall becomes a one-sided game.
Good players just use their eyes to meaty.
Yes that is true. Good players just use their eyes to meaty and that's should be everyone's goal. However, Just because Ryu is whiffing normals doesn't always have to opt for a meaty. thanks for watching and take care man!
NurseLee Fighting!!!^^;;
do these still apply in 2.5? same with your EX fireball setups video? ua-cam.com/video/L3QxIVjRiXo/v-deo.html
also i love your Ryu videos as you can see i am trying to relearn my ryu and your videos are amazing, i need more if you have t hem lol
These still should work.
For all ryu players check out the new meaty combo with ryu on my page good tech