Shaikh sahab your a true gem emam bilkul sahi kehta ha k ye molvi hazrat apna babooon or firkon k ilawa kuch sunna ko he tyar nagi hain or humesha behas karta hain or apna babooon ko defend karta hain and the way u explain is marv mashallah shaik sahab
Very knowledge rich conversation and specially point is the way they are having this conversation, many so called MUNAZRA molvis use abusive language but these guys definitely have huge respect for each other
Muhammad sheikh IS MUNKIREEN E HADEES. Beware of his evil tactics (satanic tricks). His belief is that in 1400 years of Islamic history none literally none has understood Quran correctly Nauzubillah. He also claims(absurdly) that Prophet Muhammad saw is not the last Messenger of Allah ta'ala but even he himself can get revelations directly from Allah ta'ala. BEWARE of such ENEMIES OF ISLAM
@@jaykamblejk305Inko dafa karo ap sirf Quran pe gohr karo yeh sirf apne babo ke peche chalte hain humare nabi ke peche nahi chalte ap inpe diyan mat do
Bravo 💪 Sheikh sb Nobody can stand against Allah's words. Keep up the great work, bro Sheikh. Allah Subhana protect u n bless u long life with good health 🤲 Subhan Allah ❤❤
بھائی جان اللہ کی باتیں صرف قران کو سمجھنے اور تدبر کرنے سے ہی سمجھ آتی ہیں جو میں گذشتہ 14 سے 15 سال سے اپنی زاتی فلاح کے لئے کر رہا ہوں اور اس نتیجہ پر پہنچا ہوں کہ انسانی لکھی گئی عرب کہانیاں اور حدیثیں اور روایات سب ٹارزن کی کہانیاں ہیں جن کا حقیقت اور قران کریم سے دور کا بھی تعلق نہیں بنتا اور نہ ہی کتاب میں 14 سو سال پہلے والے من گھڑت عرب بیسڈ قصے کہانیوں کا کوئی ذکر پایا جاتا ہے۔ تمام فرقوں نے قران مجید کے ترجموں میں بھی بریکٹوں میں اپنے اضافی الفاظ لگا کر اصل عربی جملے کو چینج کیا ہوا ہے جناب شیخ صاحب پہلے مسلم سکالر ہیں جو قران مجید کو اپنی زاتی کہانی یا لوگوں کے بتائی اور لکھی حدیثوں سے ہٹ کر کلام اللہ کے خالص ترجمہ بیان کرتے ہیں جو میرے زاتی علم القران کے مطابق عین درست ترجمے ہیں۔ اللہ تعالٰی کی بات آج کرنا بڑی ہمت اور حوصلہ کی بات ہے میں شیخ صاحب کی کوششوں کا اس لئے قائل ہوں اس مناظرے پر غور کریں تو آپ دیکھیں کہ شیخ صاحب حاوی ہیں کیونکہ کلام اللہ کا سامنا کرنے میں مفتی صاحب کی زبان لڑکھڑاتی صاف نظر آ رہی ہے اور مفتی صاحب کھل کر حدیث کی کتابوں کا زکر کرے سے اجتناب کر رہے ہیں کیونکہ اندر سے انہیں بھی معلوم ہے کہ وہ انسانوں کی تخلیق ہیں قران مجید کو بھائی جان خود پڑھیں اور سمجھیں اسی سے حساب ہے اور اسی پر ہمارا عمل ہے محمد صلی اللہ علیہ والہ وسلم اور ان کے صحابہ کی 14 سو پہلے کی عرب کہانیوں کا قران کریم میں کوئی وجود نہیں ہے اور اگر ہے بھی تو وہ مترجم نے بریکٹس میں اپنی طرف سے اضافی الفاظ لگا کر کیا ہوا ہے سعودی عرب تو 2022 میں ہی سرکاری طور حدیث کی تمام کتب کو فیک اور جھوٹا قرار دے چکا ہے Please google 'Cancellation of Hadith by Saudi Arabia' حلانکہ حدیثوں کے خالق بھی یہی عرب لوگ تھے ہمارے اور دیگر ہمارے جیسے اسلامی ممالک میں اس سعودی اقدام کو سرکاری اور مزہبی حلقوں میں عوام سے اس لئے چھپایا جا رہا ہے کیونکہ ہمارے تمام زیلی مسلم فرقوں کی بنیاد اور تخلیق ہی حدیثوں کی کتب سے ہے ان کا وجود بھی برقرار نہیں رہ سکے گا جبکہ قران کریم میں اللہ تعالٰی مسلمانوں کا صرف ایک ہی فرقہ کا زکر کرتے ہیں اور وہ 'فرقہ ابراہیمی علیہ السلام' ہے۔ واللہ اعلم بصواب ⚘
Sheikh Mohammad's arguments are very strong, many scholars have confused the original meaning of the book by inserting many new words in the translation (Tarjuma) of Quran Sharif. Sheikh Mohammad Sahab has a great hold on the Arabic language. Very good discussion.
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This discussion is pointing out how most or all translations of the book of Allah, either don't translate all words and or insert words in the translation which do not exist in the original Arabic text. I hope that helps.
Is qism k mnazry swaey preshani k or khuch ni humy khud Quran k trjumy or tafseer sy parhna chahye boht mzah Ata he MN Alhamdulillah 2 bar trjuma or tafseer sy parh chuka hn
Sheikh sahib ki baatein sun kar mujhey quran ki ayat zehn mein aati he jis mein allah سبحان و تعالٰی ne farmayeah یضل بہ کثیرا و یھدی بہ کثیرا، "isi quran k zareeyeh aksar loog gumrah hon ge aur isi k zareeyeh aksar hidayat paaein ge" aur tfaaseer mein ulama ne likha he k jo gumrah hon ge wo wohi hon ge jo bgher ilm k aur bgher arabic k aur bgher ahaadees k quran ko apni aqal se samjhne ki koshish krein ge, subhaan'allah
haan toh fasik hi ho rhe hn gumrah jaise....... shekh kyoki direct nabi ki tarah samajh rhe hain apne aapko arabi khud seekh k aaya tha kya maa k peyt se
Mohammed sheikh is openly denying/rejecting mohammadurrasullullah pbh and his translation of the Quran and Muslims find it interesting 🤔. This is interesting.
Debate, is knowledge full and it brought me close to The Holy Quraan to understand the theme of the word of Allah Almighty. Such debates must be held in future.
This video is very Informative and full of Knowledge no doubt. Muhammad Sheikh sb was discussing Quran and Allah Pak whereas Mufti sbi was preferring people (Ulemah) upon Quran again and again. I wish to meet Muhammad Sheikh sb but Allah knows better how can i meet him. Either it is possible or not in my life. First time in my life i have found such a person who is preaching the true spirit of Quran. Muhammad Sheikh sb only one can listen and conceive knowledge from you who is just believer of Allah, as you said i start from La ilaha ..... I pray to Allah pak for Sheikh sb for his more knowledge and blessings. God Bless you Muhammad Sheikh Sb. Regards
I respect Mr sheikh At least he dared for his point of view Right or wrong is depend on your point of view Mr sheikh gave a new way of understanding the holy Quran May ALLAH guide us all on right path. Ameen
Those who think mr sheikh (jahil) is talking with strong point see this video and don't follow a person blindly ua-cam.com/video/QABCVBA-kbk/v-deo.html
محمد شیخ صاحب اور انکے مقلدین کو کھلا چیلنج، اس امید میں کہ شاید کوئی شخص جواب دے کہ میرے علم میں اضافہ کر سکے۔ سوالات سے پہلے یہ واضح ہو کہ یہ سوالات اسی تناظر میں اٹھائے جا رہے ہیں کہ محمد شیخ صاحب کا نظریہ و عقیدہ درست ہے اور ہمیں قرآن مجید کا صرف لفظی ترجمہ کرنا چاہیے۔ محمد شیخ صاحب کا ماننا ہے کہ تمام انبیاء کرام علیہم السلام پر ایک ہی کتاب نازل ہوئی۔ سوال 1۔ اگر تمام انبیاء کرام کو ایک ہی کتاب دی گئی تو اس کتاب سے کیا مراد ہے؟ 2۔ کونسی کتاب؟ 3۔ اگر کتاب سے مراد قرآن مجید ہے تو کیا تمام انبیاء پر یہی قرآن مجید نازل ہوا یا مختلف؟ 4۔ اگر یہی قرآن مجید تو کیا آیات بھی ہوبہو یہی ہیں یا مختلف آیات؟ 5۔ اگر تمام انبیاء پر یہی قرآن مجید ہو بہو انہی آیات کے ساتھ نازل ہوا تو جب ان انبیاء پر سورۃ 33 احزاب کی آیت 37 نازل ہوئی جس میں زید کو بیان کیا گیا ہے تو یہ زید کون ہے؟ 6۔ تمام انبیاء زید سے کیا سمجھے؟ 7۔ یہ زید نامی شخص ان تمام انبیاء کے ساتھ کیسے موجود تھے؟ 8۔ اگر زید سے مراد صحابی رسول اللہ زید بن حارث ہیں تو زید بن حارث ہر زمانے میں ان تمام انبیاء کے ساتھ کیسے موجود تھے؟ 9۔ اس آیت میں اللہ تعالیٰ کس سے مخاطب ہیں؟ 10۔ رسول کریم صل اللہ علیہ والہ وسلم سے یا کسی اور نبی یا رسول سے؟ 11۔ رسول(نبی) اور زید کے علاوہ جس عورت کا ذکر کیا گیا ہے اس آیت میں وہ کون ہیں؟ 12۔ اس آیت کا ترجمہ کیا ہے؟ 13۔ یہ آیت کیوں نازل ہوئی؟ 14۔ اس آیت میں ہمیں کیا سکھایا جا رہا ہے؟ 15۔ کسی کام کو کرنے کا حکم ہے یا ممانعت؟ ان سب سوالات کے جوابات صرف قرآن سے ثابت کریں کیونکہ شیخ صاحب باقی تراجم، تفاسیر اور احادیث رسول اکرم کو مانتے نہیں ہیں۔ یہ سوالات صرف ایک آیت کے حوالے سے ہیں۔ابھی اور بہت سے سوالات ہیں۔ جزاک اللہ!
بہت بہترین میرے پیارے بھائی ❤❤❤@@Humoom143 اللہ آپکو سلامت رکھے اسی کہا گیا ہے کہ جو بھی سلف صالحین کے منہج سے ہٹا وہ گمراہ ہوگیا لیکن اس شخص نے تو سلف صالحین ہی کو غلط ثابت کرنے کی کوشش کی ہے ، حالانکہ وہ قرآن کریم کو نبی کے اقوال کی احادیث کی رو شنی سمجھتے تھے
@@Humoom143 what are you trying to prove? Are you making the case that one should look outside the Quran? Are you saying that a different book or books were given to the prophets? I listened to this debate and I was able to accept Mohammad Shaikh’s point that Allah’s book is only one and it’s given to all the prophets. So when I see comments from people like you, I wonder if your real issue is that you just don’t enough intellectual prowess to under such simple ideas because they go against your programming. So I will ask you to just prove one of your points from Quran that prophets were given different books. Also why are you stuck on Zaid? What are you trying to prove?
No one has translated the Quran Pak they just summarized according to their knowledge....and trust me reciting Quran Pak again and again your heart will nourish with new knowledge every time from ALLAH SUBHANA WA TALLAH... Every one stay blessed
this guy has proved when we think we are too smart then nothing can convince other wise when he said bhi main bohot smart hoon then that says it all .ya allah help us all and make it easy for us to fallow the right path
This video is very educational to those who seek guidance and know about the Book. I learnt about salah and the Book is the same given to every prophet. Thank you Mohammad sheikh, Alhamdulillah I'm on the right place.
@@masroorali9654 - Ummat-e-muslima ko assalaam alaik... muhammed shaikh wahi hai jo aasman ke upar faristao ke saath sajda nahi kiya tha. Hazrat fatima.r.a ke baap (father) ko nabi aur rasool nahi maanta.muslim bhai aur bheno take details of this person then take decision.muhammed shaikh sahi hai ya galat.
Ummat-e-muslima ko assalaam alaik... muhammed shaikh wahi hai jo aasman ke upar faristao ke saath sajda nahi kiya tha. Hazrat fatima.r.a ke baap (father) ko nabi aur rasool nahi maanta.muslim bhai aur bheno take details of this person then take decision.muhammed shaikh sahi hai ya galat.
even calling anyone maolvi/molvi/maolana, other than Allah, on purpose is sin. Because Quran says: Anta Maolana, faNsurna Alal-Qaum-ilKafireen... - (Chapter/Surah : Ayah/verse)
Moulana hazeraat humain bohat se batain ghalat batatay hain... sirf wo batatay hain jo favour main hon..... Mohammad Shaikh aik asasa hai...... ye hai ilm...... jis main shayed osnay apni zindagi guzar de ho...... os ne kisi ke andhi taqleed nehi ke bulkay khud research ke.. great.... I want to follow him... becuase he is actually an intellectual person........
@@PakistaniAmricn bhai nhi ho paega..... Normally khulkar ap discuss nhi karsakte islam ke liye India ko chorkar..... Q ki koi na debate karta or na debate karwata q ki revolution ajaega darte hain molvi kuch isliye..... Warna mere bht musalman frend h jo discuss karna chahte h.....
Vo khud ek muslim ki kitni respect krte hai islam mein,soon ek muslim k mooh se ua-cam.com/video/4QaD-iwBxQw/v-deo.html Tu pdha likha hokar aisi bewkoofi ki baat kr rha hai .makn ved pdhne ko nahi bol rha bhai..tu sirf satyarth prakash pdh aur uska comparison kr quran se pdh k...dekh pta chlega ki hum kaun hai aur ye kaun hai.. arrey bhai jisse saari duniya preshaan hai aaj usmein tujhe muhmmad dikhne lga
Allah Alone! Is the path . Mohamad Shekh sir your research on Quran is very insightfull your on sirat-al-mstaqeem. May Allah reward you for your efforts. You are my brother in being a muslim.
@@AM-ny7rzif an atheist calls himself Muslim, doesn't mean he is. Just calling someone Muslim doesn't make him. You should act as well. Islam is more like an action
@AM-ny7rz you said Ahmedi call themselves Muslims too, so will we love them too, all I said was claiming to be a Muslim doesn't make you one. If you don't even believe in the word of God how can you be a Muslim.
this is a great video, im 30 mins in. just to see 2 guys go at it, regarless of what the subject is, just seeing them go at it. taking petty side quests lol, this is the best
Very helpful discussion for those who really want to understand the Quran. Mufti could not justify anything by ALLAH's book. Because he knows inside that the Quran is the only book from ALLAH.
Sheikh Muhammad ko may nahi janta or bohat sari baton par ikhtelaf bhi hay lakin ek bat Dil ko bohat achi lagi k Quran ko wo kud say janay han apni mhanat say kisi k peachay lag kar nahi or yahi Allah demand karta hay k socho tadabur karo or Allah say hidayat talab karo .... Mujay nahi pata k Sheikh Muhammad sb ko hidayat mili ya wo ghumrha hoa lakin atlast un ka rasta 100% sahi hay or may Dil say dua karon ga k in ko hidayat milay ... Ameen
This filled my eyes full of tears and made me cry. The only other time I got this feeling is listening to abdulbasit recitation and in the remembrance of Allah. Love Allah so much!!
Umair Javaid l have started listening to them. I used to look at the Quran so differently (mainstream view). This has opened my eyes, heart and mind. The translations and interpretations are so misleading. I could read Arabic but not fully understand it but now I’m trying to read the Quran without any translation or interpretation. I also have stopped reading the hadiths.
@JoyaTaco you’re right, I have the Hadith collections and when I read the Quran and hadiths, it is clear of the difference between the two. Hadith can be taken as historical information but I never mix the two together. The Quran is my only source for my beliefs. I also don’t listen to UA-cam scholars now. Alhamdulliah.
Surat No. 3 Ayat NO. 105 कहीं तुम उन लोगों की तरह न हो जाना जो फ़िरक़ों और गरोहों में बँट गए और खुली-खुली साफ़ हिदायतें पाने के बाद फिर इख़्तिलाफ़ात [ विभेदों] में पड़ गए। [ 86] जिन्होंने ये रवैया अपनाया वो उस दिन सख़्त सज़ा पाएँगे,
congratulations for doing a debate this is exactly what we need, although you both may have confusion and some misconception but atleast you are sitting together and discussing
अल्लाह के कलाम उसकी वहदानीयत और हक़क़ानियत साबित करती है कि वो रब जो हमे पालता है मोत ज़िन्दगी देता है उसके सिवा कोई माबूद नहीं वही इबादत के काबिल है. अल्लाह पाक है
@@mnroster4233 Meri tou Dua hai yaar Allah Pak sub Musliman ko hadiyat dein Main tou khud ab Hadees ko check karta hon agar Quran Pak k against ho tou nahi manta aur khud Samjh kar Quran Pak parhana start kart diya hai Jub khud parhana start kiya tou pata chala k namaz b 5 time nahi hai bus 2 time hai. Sara Deen he Hadeeson per chal raha h jo 99% he Quran k against hain.
There is a Hadees about end times… which says knowledge among people will increase but they will lack wisdom. I can sense this here. May Allah protect us .Ameen
A great discussion full of knowledge however the problem is sometimes people listen to their own opinion and internal dialogue too much and not listening what the other person is saying or even while reading appointing meaning that is limited to their own limitations and in this discussion Mohammad Shaikh is expressing a lot of ignorance however both of them are very knowledgeable.
Alhamdulillah. I'm shia but i must say Haq Quran pak with 14 Masomeen A.S after that no need to other and best guidance for all human in all field at any time for both life achievement Hussain ya Hussain a.s
Lol ur entire religion is a mess based on flawed logic and qissay kahaniyan. Your self proclaimed imams couldnt leave an authentic tafseer of Quran for their shias.
I'm sorry to heard both of u guys. if u only listen ur scholars, 👎 bat yeh mery bhai ap agr tehqeeq ki nazar sy kam krain gy to apko sub milyga apka nazariya he jb tanqeed ho phr kya milyga, ap only Quran ki bat kr rhy hain ma abhe apsy agar poch lun kuch jawab dain gy Quran sy? hadees ko hata kr ni dy saky gy ap, lakin jb ma tahqeeq ki nazar rkhunga to sb milyga mujhe Quran sy,
pls ap log agr achy study krny waly hain to tariqy sy sawal kijiye ga. ma social media ka jihadi nhi hu ap log tanqeed he krygy to ma jawab nhi dunga, or ma ap logo k bary ma bura sochta to pls, Walikum Asalam
This Debate is a great example of Learning on own vs learning in an Institution......... This debate gives you a great experience of how 1 intellectual (mufti) vs one book worm .....
ye shake sahab dory hazir k hawaly say quran ko read kr rahy haen jb k quran past my nazil howa is leye demagy masly my haeen or yahi smj raheen haeen k ye quran abi b nazil ho raha hy mujsy bateen ho rai haeen jb bani israeel ki bat hogi tb khud ko wo smjeen gy jb qomy loot ki bat hogi tb khud ko wo smjeen gy shukr hy nabi ki bat pr khud ko abi tk nabi nai smja inko iman mufassil or mujammil bus pr lyni chaheye jismy sb kitabo ki bat hy or sb rasolo ki bat hy un pr iman lany ki bt hy allah is bandy ko hadayat dy ameen
Mohsin Imran past mai nazil hua tha takay aj ke log usko parh ker AJ ki zindagi ko samhjein . Past tha toh isko history book kiu nai boltay? Leikn hum toh isko criteria matnay Islam ka. Kia hum ik history ki book ko apny mazab ka criteria manay gy?
This conversation is not knowledgeable brother, this conversation leads you to jahiliyyah.. When the person tries to understand quran with own logic then this is the outcome of it. We need to understand the Quran as Sahaba did, salaf saliheen did.. That would be the accurate way to learn the Quran.. This whole debate is going nowhere but leading people to jahiliyyah
I suggest you to listen zakir naik and tariq jameel and mostly mohammad ali mirza... don't ever listen toh this mohammad sheik... inke liye quran meij aayat kuch is tarah hai ki "kaafir quran ki aayaton se khelte hain, unka apna hi matlab banaate hain, tum aise zulm karne walo se dosti na karna yakeenan unka thikana jahannam hai"...
@@truthofislam2753 listen to scholars teaching Quran and Hadith methodology of salaf us saliheen ... No other interpretation is allowed.... Beware of Ali mirza ,the one who discusses the mistakes of Sahaba (mistakes in matters of ijtihad), As a result fanatics of Ali kirza are disrespecting Great Sahaba like Muawiyah r.a....
1:20:09 main khood sheikh sahab ne accept kia meaning Damian main ya samnay , or onhon ne apnay zahan se darmian samjha , Allah pak hidayat de sheikh sahab ko , bohat shokriya mufti sahab hamain aik or fitnay se agahi di
Shaik sahib ....qurbaan jawa apde imaan ty..... "Quraan Shareef" da tarzuma apne bahut hi khubsurat kitta ay...jo ajj tak main kise momin ton nahi sunyaa....jo keha hai "Quraan Shareef" de hwale nal keha ay.....
plz ek baar (QANZUL IMAAN) KA Tarjuma padhlo jo Alahazrat IMAM Ahmed Raza khan Fazile bareilvi radi allahu anhu ne quran ka tarjuma kiya hai. shayad tumhari soch badal jaaye.
@@majid9943 The main cause of shaikh misguidance is that 1. he doesn't know arabic. 2. He has made his own terms which he applies on Quranic verses. 3. He mix up all verses revealed on different places for different arguments. 4. Sahaba r.a tabeen, taba tabeen, mohaddiseen has no value in his eyes. May Allah guide him & save the ummat e Muslimah from his fitna (which are in the form of lectures)
@@Awais-Networks mohtram with great due respect ....the way u have replied second time shows that u r an educated person ....but the first one was direct attack on me thats y i replied so harshly for which i appologize with the core of my heart ....not necessory that i am supporting sheikh sahab but hazart usman r.a ka qaol hai ke "ye mat dekho kon keh raha hai ye dekho kia keh raha hai " .....i think sheikh sahab explaining the quran in a scientific way thats y mujhe accha laga
This is not a useful discussion mohammaed shaikh is clearly misguided I request all muslims to not watch as watching such useless stuff may be the cause of loosing your iman. He does not know how to interpret the quran. [Quran 17:82] We send down in the Quran healing and mercy for the believers. At the same time, it only increases the wickedness of the transgressors. [Quran 3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except God and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed. [Quran 56:79] None can grasp it (Quran) except the sincere
My two cents: First, I appreciate Shaikh's honesty in declaring that he can't speak Arabic, learned and understood Qur'aan through translations. That is an achievement. Personally, I have been in the same boat and learnt Qur'aan's Arabic through various translations of Qur'aan in Urdu and English. It is obvious that the guidance came from Allah and I could understand Qur'aan in Arabic. Now I can explain the verses of Qur'aan easily through Qur'aan's Arabic. While the Mufti did not refute and did not explain anything, he was asking Shaikh repeatedly to prove and Shaikh was bulldozing all the way through, even knowing or perhaps not registering that he was wrong on many points. It is quite clear that M. Shaikh was engaged in verbal gymnastics or playing semantics. It is important to know that literal translations (word by word) may not give the true meanings of a word or a sentence. There are deeper meanings. I am unable to comment on the entire video but would like to point out a few instances where M. Shaikh is wrong: a. 5:43 "وَكَيْفَ يُحَكِّمُونَكَ" has nothing to do with 'Haakim', 'hukum' or 'hukumat'. It simply means: How can they ask you for decision or how can they ask to judge? b. Kitaab means book in Arabic but it means revelations or scripture in Qur'aan. No prophet came with a book in his hands. Various words are used like Alwaah (tablets) laser-cut by Allah for Moses, 'Suhuf' meaning revelations or scripture revealed to Ibrahim and Moses. Qur'aan has also been referred too as "Zikr". c. Most of the words in translations are every translators' own choice, but the message must remain the same. For example, "We have not sent you but as a mercy to the mankind" is a literal translation and can simply be written as "We have sent you as a mercy to the mankind" in contemporary English. Meaning is the same. d. Shaikh is right on the point that Taurath (Torah in Hebrew) was not given to Moses. It was given to various prophets, with which they judged and decided matters. The Jews call the first 5 books of their Tanakh (The Holy Scriptures) as the Torah. Allah did not give all the 5 books to Moses. e. Shaikh is right on the point that Taurath (Torah) is the Law given by Allah. Muslim translators have not translated teh word but the Jews translate the Hebrew word as the Law. f. The argument on Nazil ilaina and Nazil alaina: Qur'aan was revealed to the Prophet and through him it was revealed to us. But we cannot say that it was revealed to us on 'Nazil" upon us. There was no need for Shaikh to play semantics here. g. Muslims are NOT Bani Israel. Bani Israel refers only to the descendants of Jacob (Yaqub) and his twelve sons. The Jews came from his son Judah. All may find it interesting to read Genesis 38, which looks like a story (Hadith) coming from some tribal scribe and inserted in the Bible. Neither our dear Prophet nor the Quraish came from the line of Yaqub and his sons. Hence, we cannot be called Bani Israel. Shaikh was wrong on this point. h. Shaikh was also wrong on the word "Ummi". Ummi means ignorant, illiterate, unlettered and unschooled. It has nothing to do with mother. The word "Ummi" stands on its own. i. "Baina yadaihi" literally means "between two hands" but it simply means "before it". Arabic phrases have to be understood. Qur'aan does not have two hands. Shaikh got it wrong. There was verbal gymnastics on that point. Qur'aan verifies only the truth in the past scriptures, in Arabic. And those scriptures came long before Qur'aan. In my humble opinion, it was no debate. One was asking to prove and the other was bulldozing his way. Salaams, everyone.
You make more sense then shaikh.arbaic is the most complete language and grammar of arbic is very difficult to understand.shaikh is taking wordby word meaning and then he took only few ayat to consolidate his points but ignoring the fact that quran also tells you about the past people to not repeat their mistake
They both deserve an applause for debating like gentlemen, an not bigots, which is very rare in Pakistan. Imagine if this debate was between to punjabis. I am not fan of mullahs, but I second mufti sahib. This man is taking the holy book Qura'an for its literal word to word translation. Imagine if poetry was translated in its literal terms.
Difference between poetry and word of Allah, poetry cant be translated word to word, because of rhyming, whereas allah ne quran main jidher kitab likha hai udher AP translation main torah kyu daal rhe ho? Torah toh quran main ayaa hee nhe, moosa ke sath, toh phr torah word kahan se aya? Bible se? Bible ko toh ap kehte ho jews ne change krdia ham uspe emaan nhe rakhte, jab emaan nhe rakhte toh wahan se lafz utha kar quran kee translation main kyu gharhtay ho? Ab samjh ayi islam ke sath in molvio ne kia mazaq kia hua hai? Ye toh srf quran ke sath hai, hazoor ke hadiso ke naam par jitna jhooth ghara hai kisi ne nhe ghara.
Ye molvi aik hee baat dohrae jaa raha hai ke mjhe kisi na kisi ko follow krna hogaa naaa! O bhai tu ye bata molvi tu junko follow kar raha hai unpar quran or islam aya ya woh islam par aye? Tu itna obsessed kyu hai follow krne ke chakar main tu quran se seekh allah ke qalam pay ghor kar. Log toh matti ke hain, unse toh ghalti ho sakti hai, jab quran ke ayat main aik word arbi kain nhe ayaa toh woh word translation main kyu laa rahe ho? Isliye kyuke tumse pehle translation krne walon ne ye word likha? Toh tum bhe andhbakht kee trhan usay hee follow krogay?
@@maysumraza8198y aapki kam aqli ha jo aap bol rhy y sab jin logo ny apni sari zindagi taheeq ma laga di unhy samjh na ayi samjh ayi to sheikh saab ko.y baat sach ha ka ek dor ayga k aalim uth jayen gy or sheikh saab jesy khud ko aalim smjhengy or ap jesy log log in ko mane gy.
To connect with IIPC Canada and to join them please visit the link below. www.iipccanada.com/2018/04/11/registration-2/ Share these lectures & clips with your family and friends to educate them What Quran says about different topics, by Muhammad Shaikh.
مفتی باقی صاحب کا تو برا حال کیا تھا محمد شیخ نے لیکن اب احمد عیسیٰ نے محمد شیخ کو ایسا رگڑا لگایا ہے کہ اس کی نسلیں بھی یاد کریں گی ua-cam.com/video/vTk8A0MU8l0/v-deo.html
«This day, I have completed your religion for you, perfected My blessings upon you, and am pleased with Islaam as your Religion.» [5:3] SubhanAllah so simple yet 1400 years later we are still debating....
well after this verse many more verses came .. that means the Religion was not completed and it was either a false verse or God forgot few things and later decided add the new verses.
completed the religion???there are many things to come that cant be answered but created a new way to solve......so dont say that its completed but its like u hav references to solve the problem from quran thats it
Irrespective of who is right , this debate has set an "EXAMPLE" and a BENCHMARK" for those who wish to have a debate in a civilized manner. There is no noise,commotion etc. Its not too disciplined to make it boring. That's why it has more than 3 million views. It's easily among the most entertaining debates on any religious topic on youtube.
Bhai shaikh sab shaid noun pronoun se na waqif hen jis kitakab ka zikr shroh se ho raha he agr bhir us ka zikr unzalta ho k hisab se aie TU wo isi Kitab ka kaha Jai ga mufti sab zra coufiuse ho rahe hen shikh kisi kjate me nahi he or bohat see mamlat he me TU alim nahi lekin shikh sab ko samanh gia hon wo tuba na uzbilah nabi or aam insan ko ak hi trazo me toul raha he
Are mere bhai yeh sun ker b Pata Hani chala ap ko ki sahi kon hai. Jo insaan khud ko abubakar or ummer say apne app ko zyada hi mannta hai, woh sahi kese hosakta
Bhai ap Pakistani channel na dekhy ap sirf Dr Zakir Naik ko dekh le wo tu Indian he Kahi apky Indian bhai apko Pakistani na keh de. Aur ha Hindi Quran koi nae he Quran Arabic me he Hindi me translation he...... Love from Pakistan
Yess brother get education pray and love others no one is kafir everyone is Muslim or if you are whether Hindu Christian or anything Allah loves you same as other Muslim that all that kafir n all is spread by greedy people's
ماشااللہ دونوں بہت اچھا کر رہے ہیں لیکن مولوی صاحب قرآن میں لکھے ترجمہ کو ترجیح دیتے ہیں اور شیخ صاحب ترجمہ کے ساتھ تفسیر بھی بیان کر رہے ہیں اور مولوی صاحب نےقرآن بہت اچھا حفظ کیا ہے قرآن کے الفاظ کے معنیی بھی اچھے سے حفظ کر لیے مگر اللہ نے بذریعہ قرآن ہمیں کیا بتایا ہےاور کیا حکم دیا ہے اور کیا کرنے کو کہا مولوی صاحب کو اس کی سمجھ نہیں آرہی
This is happened that Hadees was banned and there was punishment on saying Hadees upto Hazrat Umer rule. Only Quran was allowed. Very strange! Sahaba stopped Rasool e pak sayings.
It's not a best munazira. This Sheikh doesn't let other speak and does not answer questions. Sheikh has no knowledge. It's just clever use of language. He cannot and will not accept my challenge. Open challenge to Muhammad Shiekh Sahab and his followers/students, if anyone can answer this. Muhammad Shiekh claims that this Book Quran(or whatever name Shiekh gives it) which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad bin Abdullah PBUH is the same book revealed to 18 Prophets mentioned in Surah Inam, Ayat 83-89{6:83-89}. It is the same book mentioned in Surah Zumr, Ayat 69{39:69}. It is the same book which was revealed to Jesus PBUH in Surah Al-Imran, Ayat 48{3:48}. It is the same book which is mentioned in Surah Al-Maeda, Ayat 68{5:68}. So my question is if it is the same book(Holy Quran) then when ALLAH SWT mentions Sahabi Zaid bin Harithah in Surah Ahzab, Ayat 37{33:37}, by Sheikh's claims there must be a person named Zaid in every era with each of 18 Prophets mentioned in 6:83-89 and with Prophet Jesus PBUH. How can that be? Who is Zaid? How can he be present in every era when that Ayat 37 of Surah Ahzab was being revealed to every Prophet(to whom the same exact book is revealed)? And that is just one question, I have many more which your Shiekh can not answer.
@@TheAiM143 brother I didn't say that shikh is right or wrong I just claim the munazira between them is humble no abusive language is used as others scholars Do ..
@@malikfahad9343 Yes you are right in saying they both did not abuse each other but still shaikh didn't played by same rules. He is continuously hammering Maulna Baqi with questions but wouldn't answer his questions. He is repeatedly interrupting Maulna. That's not fair. Also this video is edited so who knows where what happened which they edited.
He is a FITNAH...he is definitely going to create a FUSS in the society. He seems a YAHOODI AGENT to me...although he cunningly condemns Yahoodis several times...
Tera dimagh kharaab hogiya hia, Abdul baqi ne wo Deen pharha hai jo yahodioun ne phar ha ya hai. Pakistan ke halate daikh le, Pakistan Mia Deen ke thakhedar Abdul baqi jiase hi hain.
وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّن ذُكِّرَ بِآيَاتِ رَبِّهِ ثُمَّ أَعْرَضَ عَنْهَا ۚ إِنَّا مِنَ الْمُجْرِمِينَ مُنتَقِمُونَ۔ اور اُس (شخص) سے بڑھ کر ظالم کون ہو سکتا ھے جِسے اُس کے رب کی آیتوں کے ذریعے نصیحت کی جائے پھر وہ اِن سے منہ پھیر لے، بے شک ھم مُجرموں سے انتقام لینے والے ھیں۔ القرآن - سورة السجدة - 22
@@mohammadarbaz650 janab apki bt Quran wali thek hai lekin Quran ka Tarjuma her koi ni smjh skta sheikh shab ki pori video dekhy wo to Sahaba ko b manny sy inkar kr rha hai Hazrat Umar (RA) or Hazrat Abu bakr Sadeeq (RA) apko advice hai phly khud video pori dekhy or dusri bt ye k k Molvi sahb jo tarjuma krta hai wo apni tarf sy ni krta Hadeeso sy ata howa ye sb likha gaya hai Sheikh shb apni mrzi ka mazhab bna rha hai lanat hai sheikh py
Abdul Karim. Nei bhai. Wo phr fazool baten kr rha hai. Jahil hai. Iss ko ek chota school k bacha n haraa dy. 2 anay ka knowledge nei hai is shekh ka. Mufti thik bat kr raha hai
Abdul Karim we cannot understand Quran without the Hadis As aur boloved prophet Muhammad said understand Quran with the light of Hadis don't forget this and Never put such stupid comments without knowing the fact
BAY MAQSAD KI DEBAT HO RAHI HY SHAYKH SAHAB AP GHUMRAHHH HOO AYK LAFZ K MAEENAY 2 YA 2 SAY ZAID BHI HOTY HYN NA K QURAN QURAN PARHAEE QURAN K MANAY ZIKR BHI HYN AUR PAHAEE BHI
Mufti sahib Kamaal kafi cheezen clear krwa di ap ne Jazak ALLAH Khair
Tumhara mufti phans gaya kya behtar kya hai bhai siwaye apne buzargo ka difa karne ke uske pas or koi jwb nahi
محمد شیخ صاحب اور مفتی صاحب کی اس عظیم علمی اور تحقیقی گفتگو نے تفکّر کے دروازے کھول دیئے ہیں .. شکریہ
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Shaikh sahab your a true gem emam bilkul sahi kehta ha k ye molvi hazrat apna babooon or firkon k ilawa kuch sunna ko he tyar nagi hain or humesha behas karta hain or apna babooon ko defend karta hain and the way u explain is marv mashallah shaik sahab
Who emam ?
Mohammed Shaikh Kāfir hai. Mohammed Shaikh Ḥadīth ka munkir aur Khatm e Nubawwat ka munkir hai
Very knowledge rich conversation and specially point is the way they are having this conversation, many so called MUNAZRA molvis use abusive language but these guys definitely have huge respect for each other
Muhammad sheikh IS MUNKIREEN E HADEES. Beware of his evil tactics (satanic tricks). His belief is that in 1400 years of Islamic history none literally none has understood Quran correctly Nauzubillah. He also claims(absurdly) that Prophet Muhammad saw is not the last Messenger of Allah ta'ala but even he himself can get revelations directly from Allah ta'ala. BEWARE of such ENEMIES OF ISLAM
I'm hindu but i like that topic... Veri good desccution on Torah ...
And all books ... Very good explain Mr. Shaikh every muslim must be learn this
Aap kuraan padhe or samjhe ye hindi me bhi milti he aap khudse padhenge to jyada samjhenge me apka jawaab chahta hu
@@zahidmansuri6148 Maine Thodi Bahot Hissa padha hai Quran ka... Hindi audio me b suna hai ...
@@jaykamblejk305 I suggest you to watch this soothing Quran recitation by Raad al kurdi
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@@jaykamblejk305Inko dafa karo ap sirf Quran pe gohr karo yeh sirf apne babo ke peche chalte hain humare nabi ke peche nahi chalte ap inpe diyan mat do
Bravo 💪
Sheikh sb
Nobody can stand against Allah's words. Keep up the great work, bro Sheikh.
Allah Subhana protect u n bless u long life with good health 🤲
Subhan Allah ❤❤
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might be you dont listen end. where this khabis sheikh says I am better than umar and abu bakar because i know my self
بھائی جان اللہ کی باتیں صرف قران کو سمجھنے اور تدبر کرنے سے ہی سمجھ آتی ہیں
جو میں گذشتہ 14 سے 15 سال سے اپنی زاتی فلاح کے لئے کر رہا ہوں اور اس نتیجہ پر پہنچا ہوں کہ انسانی لکھی گئی عرب کہانیاں اور حدیثیں اور روایات سب ٹارزن کی کہانیاں ہیں جن کا حقیقت اور قران کریم سے دور کا بھی تعلق نہیں بنتا اور نہ ہی کتاب میں 14 سو سال پہلے والے من گھڑت عرب بیسڈ قصے کہانیوں کا کوئی ذکر پایا جاتا ہے۔
تمام فرقوں نے قران مجید کے ترجموں میں بھی بریکٹوں میں اپنے اضافی الفاظ لگا کر اصل عربی جملے کو چینج کیا ہوا ہے
جناب شیخ صاحب پہلے مسلم سکالر ہیں جو قران مجید کو اپنی زاتی کہانی یا لوگوں کے بتائی اور لکھی حدیثوں سے ہٹ کر کلام اللہ کے خالص ترجمہ بیان کرتے ہیں جو میرے زاتی علم القران کے مطابق عین درست ترجمے ہیں۔
اللہ تعالٰی کی بات آج کرنا بڑی ہمت اور حوصلہ کی بات ہے میں شیخ صاحب کی کوششوں کا اس لئے قائل ہوں
اس مناظرے پر غور کریں تو آپ دیکھیں کہ شیخ صاحب حاوی ہیں
کیونکہ کلام اللہ کا سامنا کرنے میں مفتی صاحب کی زبان لڑکھڑاتی صاف نظر آ رہی ہے اور مفتی صاحب کھل کر حدیث کی کتابوں کا زکر کرے سے اجتناب کر رہے ہیں کیونکہ اندر سے انہیں بھی معلوم ہے کہ وہ انسانوں کی تخلیق ہیں
قران مجید کو بھائی جان خود پڑھیں اور سمجھیں اسی سے حساب ہے اور اسی پر ہمارا عمل ہے
محمد صلی اللہ علیہ والہ وسلم اور ان کے صحابہ کی 14 سو پہلے کی عرب کہانیوں کا قران کریم میں کوئی وجود نہیں ہے اور اگر ہے بھی تو وہ مترجم نے بریکٹس میں اپنی طرف سے اضافی الفاظ لگا کر کیا ہوا ہے
سعودی عرب تو 2022 میں ہی سرکاری طور حدیث کی تمام کتب کو فیک اور جھوٹا قرار دے چکا ہے
Please google
'Cancellation of Hadith by Saudi Arabia'
حلانکہ حدیثوں کے خالق بھی یہی عرب لوگ تھے
ہمارے اور دیگر ہمارے جیسے اسلامی ممالک میں اس سعودی اقدام کو سرکاری اور مزہبی حلقوں میں عوام سے اس لئے چھپایا جا رہا ہے کیونکہ ہمارے تمام زیلی مسلم فرقوں کی بنیاد اور تخلیق ہی حدیثوں کی کتب سے ہے ان کا وجود بھی برقرار نہیں رہ سکے گا جبکہ قران کریم میں اللہ تعالٰی مسلمانوں کا صرف ایک ہی فرقہ کا زکر کرتے ہیں اور وہ 'فرقہ ابراہیمی علیہ السلام' ہے۔
واللہ اعلم بصواب ⚘
Sheikh Mohammad's arguments are very strong, many scholars have confused the original meaning of the book by inserting many new words in the translation (Tarjuma) of Quran Sharif. Sheikh Mohammad Sahab has a great hold on the Arabic language.
Very good discussion.
No. He has made some good points and some very poor ones. He has command on some ayats and not all..
Quran is too clear to understand 😂
Very good information. Thanks for uploading....
I'm from Somalia. I do not understand their language. But I'm happy. When my brothers discuss peacefully with Allah's way.
Sahaba na agr nabi saww sy prha hta to umar murtad na hota abubkr kafir na hota ye dono rf k log apni apni marzi ka translation kr rhy hain
Good people select kind people for election
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This discussion is pointing out how most or all translations of the book of Allah, either don't translate all words and or insert words in the translation which do not exist in the original Arabic text.
I hope that helps.
Is qism k mnazry swaey preshani k or khuch ni humy khud Quran k trjumy or tafseer sy parhna chahye boht mzah Ata he MN Alhamdulillah 2 bar trjuma or tafseer sy parh chuka hn
Mashaallah bahot badia
Very nice
Ye Video Jitni bar dekho utna or dil karta hai dekhne ko Mashallah great Mukalima
Sheikh sahib ki baatein sun kar mujhey quran ki ayat zehn mein aati he jis mein allah سبحان و تعالٰی ne farmayeah یضل بہ کثیرا و یھدی بہ کثیرا، "isi quran k zareeyeh aksar loog gumrah hon ge aur isi k zareeyeh aksar hidayat paaein ge" aur tfaaseer mein ulama ne likha he k jo gumrah hon ge wo wohi hon ge jo bgher ilm k aur bgher arabic k aur bgher ahaadees k quran ko apni aqal se samjhne ki koshish krein ge, subhaan'allah
Qasim Akram Quran ki koi ek tafseer nahi hosakti Bro
acording to quran .. fashiq log hi gumrah hote hen pls read full ayat
Qasim Akram brother agree with u
OR AGAR AP TAWAJHO SAY PARAN PHIR ISI AYAT ME LIKHA HE GUMRAH TO SIRF FASIQ HI HOTE HAN ,, AP LOG HADEES KE ADI HAN QURANI AYAT KE NAHI
haan toh fasik hi ho rhe hn gumrah jaise....... shekh kyoki direct nabi ki tarah samajh rhe hain apne aapko arabi khud seekh k aaya tha kya maa k peyt se
Very well explained all by Mohammad Shaikh.
Watched this more than 5 times... Very interesting and mind opening regardless of what each one talked about... I sided with none..
Salman Ashraf what was interesting please share...?
Mohammed sheikh is openly denying/rejecting mohammadurrasullullah pbh and his translation of the Quran and Muslims find it interesting 🤔. This is interesting.
@@drsaran Actually people now a days thinks people smart when he start using some english with arabic and so called logic.
I watched 7 times during couple of years and whenever I watched feel like first time 😊
Same here
And i watch dozens of time
Debate, is knowledge full and it brought me close to The Holy Quraan to understand the theme of the word of Allah Almighty. Such debates must be held in future.
please watch this video ua-cam.com/video/tg7wHkWCRBE/v-deo.html you will come to know how knowledgeable he is
aziz shah I agree
Mohemmed shaikh is light in Darkness.Good. Nice discussion.
This video is very Informative and full of Knowledge no doubt. Muhammad Sheikh sb was discussing Quran and Allah Pak whereas Mufti sbi was preferring people (Ulemah) upon Quran again and again. I wish to meet Muhammad Sheikh sb but Allah knows better how can i meet him. Either it is possible or not in my life. First time in my life i have found such a person who is preaching the true spirit of Quran. Muhammad Sheikh sb only one can listen and conceive knowledge from you who is just believer of Allah, as you said i start from La ilaha .....
I pray to Allah pak for Sheikh sb for his more knowledge and blessings. God Bless you Muhammad Sheikh Sb.
Regards
Please please please. This man is wrong! This man is wrong! This man is wrong!
So you don't believe on Sahaba R.a by whom Allah has given Power to Islam and was the beloved of Prophet.
@@ahasan8628 he doesn't type that he don't believe in messengers and chaste believing servants of Allah.
Muhammad Sheikh brother I love you. And I totally agree with you.
Almighty Allah give long and prosperous life to all Islamic Scholars/Researchers/ whome devoted whole life for service of Islam,
Ye kha p likha h ?
Its not about Education. Its Knowledge and understanding which is bestowed by Allah only!
I respect Mr sheikh
At least he dared for his point of view
Right or wrong is depend on your point of view
Mr sheikh gave a new way of understanding the holy Quran
May ALLAH guide us all on right path. Ameen
Very good shaikh sb ... Ap ky dalayel bohat mazhoot hain .. khas kar Quran he sirf Allah ka kalam hy
there is no new way only one way to understand the Quran. His points of view were totally wrong and to his translation
Those who think mr sheikh (jahil) is talking with strong point see this video and don't follow a person blindly
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That's the flaw. It's a "NEW" way of understanding and not the original way
Daring...will not work in Islam.. Mr sheikh point of view can not change the truth ..
یہ مناظرہ میں نے کہیں بار سنا ہے لیکن ہر بار سننے کا مزہ ہی کچھ اور ہے ماشاءاللہ بہت ہی خوبصورت طریقے سے گفتگو ہوئی ہے
محمد شیخ صاحب اور انکے مقلدین کو کھلا چیلنج، اس امید میں کہ شاید کوئی شخص جواب دے کہ میرے علم میں اضافہ کر سکے۔
سوالات سے پہلے یہ واضح ہو کہ یہ سوالات اسی تناظر میں اٹھائے جا رہے ہیں کہ محمد شیخ صاحب کا نظریہ و عقیدہ درست ہے اور ہمیں قرآن مجید کا صرف لفظی ترجمہ کرنا چاہیے۔ محمد شیخ صاحب کا ماننا ہے کہ تمام انبیاء کرام علیہم السلام پر ایک ہی کتاب نازل ہوئی۔
سوال 1۔ اگر تمام انبیاء کرام کو ایک ہی کتاب دی گئی تو اس کتاب سے کیا مراد ہے؟
2۔ کونسی کتاب؟
3۔ اگر کتاب سے مراد قرآن مجید ہے تو کیا تمام انبیاء پر یہی قرآن مجید نازل ہوا یا مختلف؟
4۔ اگر یہی قرآن مجید تو کیا آیات بھی ہوبہو یہی ہیں یا مختلف آیات؟
5۔ اگر تمام انبیاء پر یہی قرآن مجید ہو بہو انہی آیات کے ساتھ نازل ہوا تو جب ان انبیاء پر سورۃ 33 احزاب کی آیت 37 نازل ہوئی جس میں زید کو بیان کیا گیا ہے تو یہ زید کون ہے؟
6۔ تمام انبیاء زید سے کیا سمجھے؟
7۔ یہ زید نامی شخص ان تمام انبیاء کے ساتھ کیسے موجود تھے؟
8۔ اگر زید سے مراد صحابی رسول اللہ زید بن حارث ہیں تو زید بن حارث ہر زمانے میں ان تمام انبیاء کے ساتھ کیسے موجود تھے؟
9۔ اس آیت میں اللہ تعالیٰ کس سے مخاطب ہیں؟
10۔ رسول کریم صل اللہ علیہ والہ وسلم سے یا کسی اور نبی یا رسول سے؟
11۔ رسول(نبی) اور زید کے علاوہ جس عورت کا ذکر کیا گیا ہے اس آیت میں وہ کون ہیں؟
12۔ اس آیت کا ترجمہ کیا ہے؟
13۔ یہ آیت کیوں نازل ہوئی؟
14۔ اس آیت میں ہمیں کیا سکھایا جا رہا ہے؟
15۔ کسی کام کو کرنے کا حکم ہے یا ممانعت؟
ان سب سوالات کے جوابات صرف قرآن سے ثابت کریں کیونکہ شیخ صاحب باقی تراجم، تفاسیر اور احادیث رسول اکرم کو مانتے نہیں ہیں۔ یہ سوالات صرف ایک آیت کے حوالے سے ہیں۔ابھی اور بہت سے سوالات ہیں۔ جزاک اللہ!
بہت بہترین میرے پیارے بھائی ❤❤❤@@Humoom143
اللہ آپکو سلامت رکھے
اسی کہا گیا ہے کہ جو بھی سلف صالحین کے منہج سے ہٹا وہ گمراہ ہوگیا لیکن اس شخص نے تو سلف صالحین ہی کو غلط ثابت کرنے کی کوشش کی ہے ،
حالانکہ وہ قرآن کریم کو نبی کے اقوال کی احادیث کی رو شنی سمجھتے تھے
@@Humoom14366ثٹث ح ث😅😅
@@Humoom143 what are you trying to prove? Are you making the case that one should look outside the Quran? Are you saying that a different book or books were given to the prophets?
I listened to this debate and I was able to accept Mohammad Shaikh’s point that Allah’s book is only one and it’s given to all the prophets.
So when I see comments from people like you, I wonder if your real issue is that you just don’t enough intellectual prowess to under such simple ideas because they go against your programming.
So I will ask you to just prove one of your points from Quran that prophets were given different books.
Also why are you stuck on Zaid? What are you trying to prove?
Same with me
محمد شیخ صاحب واحد ہیں جو قرآن کا ترجمہ لفظ بہ لفظ بغیر ملاوٹ کے کررہے ہیں۔اس لیے سمجھنے کے لیے بہت آسان ہورہا ہے شکر اللہ پاک کا
No one has translated the Quran Pak they just summarized according to their knowledge....and trust me reciting Quran Pak again and again your heart will nourish with new knowledge every time from ALLAH SUBHANA WA TALLAH... Every one stay blessed
It's 100%true
So you are saying that every two people will understand Quraan differently? Or the prophet Muhammad s.a.w has tough us one way
دنیا کی بہترین کتاب
قرآن کریم
جس پر نازل ہوئی
خوبصورت شخص
محمد صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم
صرف خوبصورت نہیں بے انتہا خوبصورت💯
this guy has proved when we think we are too smart then nothing can convince other wise
when he said bhi main bohot smart hoon then that says it all .ya allah help us all and make it easy for us to fallow the right path
Still he exposed the blind following-ness of other mufti sahab
This video is very educational to those who seek guidance and know about the Book. I learnt about salah and the Book is the same given to every prophet.
Thank you Mohammad sheikh, Alhamdulillah I'm on the right place.
Yh discussion sirf unke liye hai jo quran samajh kr padhte hain. Jinhone pura quraan mai tarjuma ke padha hai. A very intelligent discussion.
I dont think it was intelligant i think it was a debate the one who won is due to his words not due to knowledge of Quran
ali bhai haq saamne aa hi jata hai chahe jitna chhupao
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Ummat-e-muslima ko assalaam alaik... muhammed shaikh wahi hai jo aasman ke upar faristao ke saath sajda nahi kiya tha.
Hazrat fatima.r.a ke baap (father) ko nabi aur rasool nahi maanta.muslim bhai aur bheno take details of this person then take decision.muhammed shaikh sahi hai ya galat.
Ummat-e-muslima ko assalaam alaik... muhammed shaikh wahi hai jo aasman ke upar faristao ke saath sajda nahi kiya tha.
Hazrat fatima.r.a ke baap (father) ko nabi aur rasool nahi maanta.muslim bhai aur bheno take details of this person then take decision.muhammed shaikh sahi hai ya galat.
Knowledge is knowledge and maolvi is maolvi .Shekh Sab is fully prepared.
even calling anyone maolvi/molvi/maolana, other than Allah, on purpose is sin.
Because Quran says: Anta Maolana, faNsurna Alal-Qaum-ilKafireen... - (Chapter/Surah : Ayah/verse)
Saeed Ahmed Mughal sheikh ul shaitaan hai ya
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Agreed , Shaikh shab mai Dhikawa or Akad hai & Maulvi shab mai Saadgii or Deen ka Sahur hai
moosa mistry Tm sach bol ry ho or agla tmsy behs kry to sach sabit krny k lye tm bhi yahi kro gy
Mufti sahb is on right track.
Sheikh relates ayats out of context and apply the scenario to all conditions till last day of earth.
Moulana hazeraat humain bohat se batain ghalat batatay hain... sirf wo batatay hain jo favour main hon..... Mohammad Shaikh aik asasa hai...... ye hai ilm...... jis main shayed osnay apni zindagi guzar de ho...... os ne kisi ke andhi taqleed nehi ke bulkay khud research ke.. great.... I want to follow him... becuase he is actually an intellectual person........
I must appreciate both that at least that they sat together and had a decent dialogue with out any kind of voilance and ignorence.
Very well said Mubashir bhai! We need more of these types of open-minded discussions...
@@PakistaniAmricn bhai nhi ho paega..... Normally khulkar ap discuss nhi karsakte islam ke liye India ko chorkar..... Q ki koi na debate karta or na debate karwata q ki revolution ajaega darte hain molvi kuch isliye..... Warna mere bht musalman frend h jo discuss karna chahte h.....
Allah maaf kare shekh shab ko
But molvi is emotional and just a reader of quran and not understand it.
No m
Mr.Shaikh you r just fantasic.Im hindu but I also respect Islam.
Sheikh kutta fitna
Vo khud ek muslim ki kitni respect krte hai islam mein,soon ek muslim k mooh se
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Tu pdha likha hokar aisi bewkoofi ki baat kr rha hai .makn ved pdhne ko nahi bol rha bhai..tu sirf satyarth prakash pdh aur uska comparison kr quran se pdh k...dekh pta chlega ki hum kaun hai aur ye kaun hai.. arrey bhai jisse saari duniya preshaan hai aaj usmein tujhe muhmmad dikhne lga
@@bharatvidyaacademy3211 my dear wo context kay begair words ka meaning kar raha hy or grammar bhi teak uski
Allah Alone! Is the path . Mohamad Shekh sir your research on Quran is very insightfull your on sirat-al-mstaqeem. May Allah reward you for your efforts. You are my brother in being a muslim.
No matter who wins or not both are muslim we should love our muslims brothers and sister.
Naare takbeer -Allahu Akbar❤️🇸🇦
Ahmedi ? Do u love them as well? They call themselves muslims
Mohammad sheikh is not Muslim
@@AM-ny7rzif an atheist calls himself Muslim, doesn't mean he is. Just calling someone Muslim doesn't make him. You should act as well. Islam is more like an action
@@Ahmed_Ali.S bad example. 👎 atheist claiming to be a muslim? Its paradox
@AM-ny7rz you said Ahmedi call themselves Muslims too, so will we love them too, all I said was claiming to be a Muslim doesn't make you one. If you don't even believe in the word of God how can you be a Muslim.
Jub se upload hoye hai 16 dafa dekh chuka hon or har dafa New chez sekhni ko mila ❤
Ye bat to aap ki sach he,nice to met,
Me ne 15 times dekha
@Touseef Khan me nhi hu
@Touseef Khan Allah aap ko hidayut day
Me bhi Allah ko janta bhi hon or manta bhi hon molviyon k zarye nai blk quran or rasol saw k zarye se,
I m hindu
I like ur explaination
Muhmd sheikh...
Ur decision rong.. See properly who is talking on right way and followed quran... Mr. Shaikh making fool scene.
@@haidarsayyad3652 ur mufti changing proper words
Pyramid Studio you guys always like those people who are against or making fun of us. Do you have any knowledge of Islam ?
@@zackaus2605 yes brother
Bht pyara define kya shakih sahb ne.... Great answer
"My whole life was a lie" after watching this, this line fits on my LIFE. Allah beshak aalim hai hum ab in k beech mai kia keh sakty hai.
this same happened to me when i first listened to it. Now after reading by myself i got to know indeed all my life i was myself a lie
toraat aik book hy
Before understanding anything from quran please explain me alif lam mieem
@@zafar78615 first you tell me
All leave ishlam right now
Very educational discussion for Muslims so we can ponder in the ayates of Allah.
this is a great video, im 30 mins in.
just to see 2 guys go at it, regarless of what the subject is, just seeing them go at it. taking petty side quests lol, this is the best
Very helpful discussion for those who really want to understand the Quran. Mufti could not justify anything by ALLAH's book. Because he knows inside that the Quran is the only book from ALLAH.
Sheikh Muhammad ko may nahi janta or bohat sari baton par ikhtelaf bhi hay lakin ek bat Dil ko bohat achi lagi k Quran ko wo kud say janay han apni mhanat say kisi k peachay lag kar nahi or yahi Allah demand karta hay k socho tadabur karo or Allah say hidayat talab karo .... Mujay nahi pata k Sheikh Muhammad sb ko hidayat mili ya wo ghumrha hoa lakin atlast un ka rasta 100% sahi hay or may Dil say dua karon ga k in ko hidayat milay ... Ameen
Har cheez ka seekhne k liyee ek ustaad qaim kia gayaa h ... Bilkul back m jaa.k.dekh lo
Quran AP ny نبی کریم علیہ السلام sy saikhna hai aur sahaba sy aur sheik munkreen e Hadees hai Allah isy hidayat dy
This filled my eyes full of tears and made me cry. The only other time I got this feeling is listening to abdulbasit recitation and in the remembrance of Allah. Love Allah so much!!
i would suggest you to listen all his 50 lectures. Your life will be changed.
May Allah bless you. Ameen
Umair Javaid l have started listening to them. I used to look at the Quran so differently (mainstream view). This has opened my eyes, heart and mind. The translations and interpretations are so misleading. I could read Arabic but not fully understand it but now I’m trying to read the Quran without any translation or interpretation. I also have stopped reading the hadiths.
Umair Javaid May Allah bless you and bless your loved ones too. Aameen
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Thank You for your reply and pray.
@JoyaTaco you’re right, I have the Hadith collections and when I read the Quran and hadiths, it is clear of the difference between the two. Hadith can be taken as historical information but I never mix the two together. The Quran is my only source for my beliefs. I also don’t listen to UA-cam scholars now. Alhamdulliah.
اللهم أرنا الحق حقا وأرزقنا إتباعه
وأرنا الباطل باطلاً وارزقنا اجتنابه
Surat No. 3 Ayat NO. 105
कहीं तुम उन लोगों की तरह न हो जाना जो फ़िरक़ों और गरोहों में बँट गए और खुली-खुली साफ़ हिदायतें पाने के बाद फिर इख़्तिलाफ़ात [ विभेदों] में पड़ गए। [ 86] जिन्होंने ये रवैया अपनाया वो उस दिन सख़्त सज़ा पाएँगे,
congratulations for doing a debate this is exactly what we need, although you both may have confusion and some misconception but atleast you are sitting together and discussing
Have you studied Islam and school of thought of islam with respect to hadees, that old man is opposing hadees at every statement.
Jisne quran pak me apni marzi chalaye wo apna teqana jahannam paya
@Subrati ali kya?
رائٹ
Ye pagal insan apni marzi he chala raha hai..
@@shahnawazkhan1374 aur molvi
Mufti sahib ap shk k sammne 0 ho.
Shak sab allah apko salamt rakhy .
MashaAllah ❤ bht mehnat Allah zndgi dy bht ilm mashaallah
The Sheikh comes across as correct..Islam grew from the previous scriptures it confirms the previous scriptures..
अल्लाह के कलाम उसकी वहदानीयत और हक़क़ानियत साबित करती है कि वो रब जो हमे पालता है मोत ज़िन्दगी देता है उसके सिवा कोई माबूद नहीं वही इबादत के काबिल है. अल्लाह पाक है
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@@shehnaziqbal4485 आप जानते हो मुझे नंबर और क्यू किस लिए दिया
Allah hamain sab ko or sheikh muhmmad ko aqal + iman ata fermay. Ajeeb o gareeb new philosophy gharny sy mehfoz rakhy
Quran Pak Haq Quran E Pak k agay koi nahi tik sakta Shaikh Sb ap Haq per hain Allah Pak hamsha salamat rakhein ameen.
Or ahadees ka kia karein jau ahadees ko 99% Musalmano 1400 sal se Sahi smjhte araha kia abhi ye SARE Musalmano ka aaqida theek karayga
@@mnroster4233 Meri tou Dua hai yaar Allah Pak sub Musliman ko hadiyat dein Main tou khud ab Hadees ko check karta hon agar Quran Pak k against ho tou nahi manta aur khud Samjh kar Quran Pak parhana start kart diya hai Jub khud parhana start kiya tou pata chala k namaz b 5 time nahi hai bus 2 time hai. Sara Deen he Hadeeson per chal raha h jo 99% he Quran k against hain.
There is a Hadees about end times… which says knowledge among people will increase but they will lack wisdom. I can sense this here. May Allah protect us .Ameen
Let's study islamic value
Women empowerment in Islam
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ایک بہتریں ویڈیو جو ہر مسلمان کو ایک بار ضرور دیکھنا چاہیے غور سے سننا چائیے سمجھنا چائیے
❤
Bulkul b nhi dekhna chai h
Han bilkul jahil he raho qiamat k din phir pata chal jayega apne Quran ko ignore kia aur 2 taky k molvio k peechy chal rahy ho.@@HaqNawaz-dy1kk
Is debate se bhut kuch sikhne ko milega 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
A great discussion full of knowledge however the problem is sometimes people listen to their own opinion and internal dialogue too much and not listening what the other person is saying or even while reading appointing meaning that is limited to their own limitations and in this discussion Mohammad Shaikh is expressing a lot of ignorance however both of them are very knowledgeable.
Alhamdulillah. I'm shia but i must say Haq Quran pak with 14 Masomeen A.S after that no need to other and best guidance for all human in all field at any time for both life achievement Hussain ya Hussain a.s
Lol ur entire religion is a mess based on flawed logic and qissay kahaniyan. Your self proclaimed imams couldnt leave an authentic tafseer of Quran for their shias.
The QUR'AN is HAQ but 12 IMAMS are absent within it. Just try to prove any key Belief of SHIA ISLAM with QUR'AN only.
SALAAMUN ALAYKUM
I'm sorry to heard both of u guys. if u only listen ur scholars, 👎 bat yeh mery bhai ap agr tehqeeq ki nazar sy kam krain gy to apko sub milyga apka nazariya he jb tanqeed ho phr kya milyga, ap only Quran ki bat kr rhy hain ma abhe apsy agar poch lun kuch jawab dain gy Quran sy? hadees ko hata kr ni dy saky gy ap, lakin jb ma tahqeeq ki nazar rkhunga to sb milyga mujhe Quran sy,
@@invoker939 MashAllah ap to Alam e Deen ban gy hain. entire deen sikh lya apny, mery bhai religion ek he hy humra Firqa alag hy
pls ap log agr achy study krny waly hain to tariqy sy sawal kijiye ga. ma social media ka jihadi nhi hu ap log tanqeed he krygy to ma jawab nhi dunga, or ma ap logo k bary ma bura sochta to pls,
Walikum Asalam
This Debate is a great example of
Learning on own vs learning in an Institution......... This debate gives you a great experience of how 1 intellectual (mufti) vs one book worm .....
Sulaiman Khan
md sadiq ???
Agreed
ye shake sahab dory hazir k hawaly say quran ko read kr rahy haen jb k quran past my nazil howa is leye demagy masly my haeen or yahi smj raheen haeen k ye quran abi b nazil ho raha hy mujsy bateen ho rai haeen jb bani israeel ki bat hogi tb khud ko wo smjeen gy jb qomy loot ki bat hogi tb khud ko wo smjeen gy shukr hy nabi ki bat pr khud ko abi tk nabi nai smja inko iman mufassil or mujammil bus pr lyni chaheye jismy sb kitabo ki bat hy or sb rasolo ki bat hy un pr iman lany ki bt hy allah is bandy ko hadayat dy ameen
Mohsin Imran past mai nazil hua tha takay aj ke log usko parh ker AJ ki zindagi ko samhjein . Past tha toh isko history book kiu nai boltay? Leikn hum toh isko criteria matnay Islam ka. Kia hum ik history ki book ko apny mazab ka criteria manay gy?
both people have a lot of knowledge and they make me in confusion where I can go !!! the whole conversation is knowledgeable and very appricated.
Ha ha Muhammed seikh jo samajh raha hai, woh dil se, Abdul waki samajh raha hai dimag se
This conversation is not knowledgeable brother, this conversation leads you to jahiliyyah..
When the person tries to understand quran with own logic then this is the outcome of it.
We need to understand the Quran as Sahaba did, salaf saliheen did.. That would be the accurate way to learn the Quran..
This whole debate is going nowhere but leading people to jahiliyyah
I suggest you to listen zakir naik and tariq jameel and mostly mohammad ali mirza... don't ever listen toh this mohammad sheik... inke liye quran meij aayat kuch is tarah hai ki "kaafir quran ki aayaton se khelte hain, unka apna hi matlab banaate hain, tum aise zulm karne walo se dosti na karna yakeenan unka thikana jahannam hai"...
Then listen 2,3 time again
@@truthofislam2753 listen to scholars teaching Quran and Hadith methodology of salaf us saliheen ...
No other interpretation is allowed....
Beware of Ali mirza ,the one who discusses the mistakes of Sahaba (mistakes in matters of ijtihad),
As a result fanatics of Ali kirza are disrespecting Great Sahaba like Muawiyah r.a....
1:20:09 main khood sheikh sahab ne accept kia meaning Damian main ya samnay , or onhon ne apnay zahan se darmian samjha , Allah pak hidayat de sheikh sahab ko , bohat shokriya mufti sahab hamain aik or fitnay se agahi di
شیخ صاحب اللہ پاک سلامت رکھے آپ بلکل سہی ہیں یہاں ہر بندے نے اپنا اپنا ترجمعہ کر رکھا ہے قرآن پاک کا
Waaah Bas Sheikh Sahi Hai😂
Shaik sahib ....qurbaan jawa apde imaan ty..... "Quraan Shareef" da tarzuma apne bahut hi khubsurat kitta ay...jo ajj tak main kise momin ton nahi sunyaa....jo keha hai "Quraan Shareef" de hwale nal keha ay.....
plz ek baar (QANZUL IMAAN) KA Tarjuma padhlo jo Alahazrat IMAM Ahmed Raza khan Fazile bareilvi radi allahu anhu ne quran ka tarjuma kiya hai. shayad tumhari soch badal jaaye.
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Tu kafar ki ulaaad hy harpreet get lost idot
What a scholastic thoughts Mr shaikh sahab demonstrated ...im not his follower but he inspired me alot
@@Awais-Networks Dushmanane Ali a.s always get insulted like this ;)
@@majid9943 The main cause of shaikh misguidance is that
1. he doesn't know arabic.
2. He has made his own terms which he applies on Quranic verses.
3. He mix up all verses revealed on different places for different arguments.
4. Sahaba r.a tabeen, taba tabeen, mohaddiseen has no value in his eyes.
May Allah guide him & save the ummat e Muslimah from his fitna (which are in the form of lectures)
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yeh agar dushman ali hai to ap ALLAH k aur Muhammad k dushman ho ...
@@Awais-Networks mohtram with great due respect ....the way u have replied second time shows that u r an educated person ....but the first one was direct attack on me thats y i replied so harshly for which i appologize with the core of my heart ....not necessory that i am supporting sheikh sahab but hazart usman r.a ka qaol hai ke "ye mat dekho kon keh raha hai ye dekho kia keh raha hai " .....i think sheikh sahab explaining the quran in a scientific way thats y mujhe accha laga
Mashallah mohammad shaikh sahab Allah apko humesha khush rakhay ❤❤❤❤❤❤Ameeeen
لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا اللّٰهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ اللّٰهِ 🌺🌸🥀
صَلَّى اللّٰهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّم ❤️
May Allah grant him true knowledge.
At 2 hours 18 mark..sheikh speaks my mind .well done
Before i lisnt this discussion even i belive al kitaab ( the book) mean al quran which is send to all rasools.
This is not a useful discussion mohammaed shaikh is clearly misguided I request all muslims to not watch as watching such useless stuff may be the cause of loosing your iman. He does not know how to interpret the quran.
[Quran 17:82] We send down in the Quran healing and mercy for the believers. At the same time, it only increases the wickedness of the transgressors.
[Quran 3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except God and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.
[Quran 56:79] None can grasp it (Quran) except the sincere
عبدالباقی صاحب نے شروع میں اتنی ایجوکیشن بتائی کہ جیسے بڑا محدث ہوں لیکن شیخ صاحب کی ایک بھی بات کا جواب دلیل سے نہیں دیا 😂
Molvi ise ka naam hay
Shaikh sb koi bat manty hein 😅
Srach exmusalim sahil👍👍👍
Andhbhakt pehle tu srach aur muslim ki spelling sekh le kya hai 😂 fir apne baap sahil ki advertising karle.
Sit among those who have knowledge..💕
Shaikh sb ek lafz ke har jagha ek hi matlab le rahe hain,
Jabki different jagha pe different meaning hote hain,
Inhe language ka bilkul ilm hi nahi.
Apna nombar sand karo ji ma jawab donga ji in ko
My two cents:
First, I appreciate Shaikh's honesty in declaring that he can't speak Arabic, learned and understood Qur'aan through translations. That is an achievement. Personally, I have been in the same boat and learnt Qur'aan's Arabic through various translations of Qur'aan in Urdu and English. It is obvious that the guidance came from Allah and I could understand Qur'aan in Arabic. Now I can explain the verses of Qur'aan easily through Qur'aan's Arabic.
While the Mufti did not refute and did not explain anything, he was asking Shaikh repeatedly to prove and Shaikh was bulldozing all the way through, even knowing or perhaps not registering that he was wrong on many points.
It is quite clear that M. Shaikh was engaged in verbal gymnastics or playing semantics.
It is important to know that literal translations (word by word) may not give the true meanings of a word or a sentence. There are deeper meanings.
I am unable to comment on the entire video but would like to point out a few instances where M. Shaikh is wrong:
a. 5:43 "وَكَيْفَ يُحَكِّمُونَكَ" has nothing to do with 'Haakim', 'hukum' or 'hukumat'. It simply means: How can they ask you for decision or how can they ask to judge?
b. Kitaab means book in Arabic but it means revelations or scripture in Qur'aan. No prophet came with a book in his hands. Various words are used like Alwaah (tablets) laser-cut by Allah for Moses, 'Suhuf' meaning revelations or scripture revealed to Ibrahim and Moses. Qur'aan has also been referred too as "Zikr".
c. Most of the words in translations are every translators' own choice, but the message must remain the same. For example, "We have not sent you but as a mercy to the mankind" is a literal translation and can simply be written as "We have sent you as a mercy to the mankind" in contemporary English. Meaning is the same.
d. Shaikh is right on the point that Taurath (Torah in Hebrew) was not given to Moses. It was given to various prophets, with which they judged and decided matters. The Jews call the first 5 books of their Tanakh (The Holy Scriptures) as the Torah. Allah did not give all the 5 books to Moses.
e. Shaikh is right on the point that Taurath (Torah) is the Law given by Allah. Muslim translators have not translated teh word but the Jews translate the Hebrew word as the Law.
f. The argument on Nazil ilaina and Nazil alaina: Qur'aan was revealed to the Prophet and through him it was revealed to us. But we cannot say that it was revealed to us on 'Nazil" upon us. There was no need for Shaikh to play semantics here.
g. Muslims are NOT Bani Israel. Bani Israel refers only to the descendants of Jacob (Yaqub) and his twelve sons. The Jews came from his son Judah. All may find it interesting to read Genesis 38, which looks like a story (Hadith) coming from some tribal scribe and inserted in the Bible.
Neither our dear Prophet nor the Quraish came from the line of Yaqub and his sons. Hence, we cannot be called Bani Israel. Shaikh was wrong on this point.
h. Shaikh was also wrong on the word "Ummi". Ummi means ignorant, illiterate, unlettered and unschooled. It has nothing to do with mother. The word "Ummi" stands on its own.
i. "Baina yadaihi" literally means "between two hands" but it simply means "before it". Arabic phrases have to be understood. Qur'aan does not have two hands. Shaikh got it wrong. There was verbal gymnastics on that point.
Qur'aan verifies only the truth in the past scriptures, in Arabic. And those scriptures came long before Qur'aan.
In my humble opinion, it was no debate. One was asking to prove and the other was bulldozing his way.
Salaams, everyone.
What is your source of information?
@@farooqmirza3886 My knowledge of Qur'aan.
Your opinion is point ok brother u r absolutely right
You make more sense then shaikh.arbaic is the most complete language and grammar of arbic is very difficult to understand.shaikh is taking wordby word meaning and then he took only few ayat to consolidate his points but ignoring the fact that quran also tells you about the past people to not repeat their mistake
*mostly history
They both deserve an applause for debating like gentlemen, an not bigots, which is very rare in Pakistan. Imagine if this debate was between to punjabis. I am not fan of mullahs, but I second mufti sahib. This man is taking the holy book Qura'an for its literal word to word translation. Imagine if poetry was translated in its literal terms.
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Wat about mutashabihat verses ...???
Difference between poetry and word of Allah, poetry cant be translated word to word, because of rhyming, whereas allah ne quran main jidher kitab likha hai udher AP translation main torah kyu daal rhe ho? Torah toh quran main ayaa hee nhe, moosa ke sath, toh phr torah word kahan se aya? Bible se? Bible ko toh ap kehte ho jews ne change krdia ham uspe emaan nhe rakhte, jab emaan nhe rakhte toh wahan se lafz utha kar quran kee translation main kyu gharhtay ho? Ab samjh ayi islam ke sath in molvio ne kia mazaq kia hua hai? Ye toh srf quran ke sath hai, hazoor ke hadiso ke naam par jitna jhooth ghara hai kisi ne nhe ghara.
Ye molvi aik hee baat dohrae jaa raha hai ke mjhe kisi na kisi ko follow krna hogaa naaa! O bhai tu ye bata molvi tu junko follow kar raha hai unpar quran or islam aya ya woh islam par aye? Tu itna obsessed kyu hai follow krne ke chakar main tu quran se seekh allah ke qalam pay ghor kar. Log toh matti ke hain, unse toh ghalti ho sakti hai, jab quran ke ayat main aik word arbi kain nhe ayaa toh woh word translation main kyu laa rahe ho? Isliye kyuke tumse pehle translation krne walon ne ye word likha? Toh tum bhe andhbakht kee trhan usay hee follow krogay?
@@maysumraza8198y aapki kam aqli ha jo aap bol rhy y sab jin logo ny apni sari zindagi taheeq ma laga di unhy samjh na ayi samjh ayi to sheikh saab ko.y baat sach ha ka ek dor ayga k aalim uth jayen gy or sheikh saab jesy khud ko aalim smjhengy or ap jesy log log in ko mane gy.
Best discussion in this ERA..❤ Knowledge is power.
بہترین ورزش ہو رہی ہے۔
اس میں شک نہیں یہ ایک بہتریں علمی بہث ہے۔
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What Quran says about different topics, by Muhammad Shaikh.
مفتی باقی صاحب کا تو برا حال کیا تھا محمد شیخ نے لیکن اب احمد عیسیٰ نے محمد شیخ کو ایسا رگڑا لگایا ہے کہ اس کی نسلیں بھی یاد کریں گی
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behtreen
wao
pehli baar ease parhe likhe bande ki bat sunni
«This day, I have completed your religion for you, perfected My blessings upon you, and am pleased with Islaam as your Religion.» [5:3]
SubhanAllah so simple yet 1400 years later we are still debating....
well after this verse many more verses came .. that means the Religion was not completed and it was either a false verse or God forgot few things and later decided add the new verses.
@Kashif what happened why are you no defending the verse ? too ashamed to defend stupid religion ?
completed the religion???there are many things to come that cant be answered but created a new way to solve......so dont say that its completed but its like u hav references to solve the problem from quran thats it
Or you're just stupid 😂
بہت خوب مکالمہ ۔ علمی بحث ۔ مزہ آگیا ہے
Irrespective of who is right , this debate has set an "EXAMPLE" and a BENCHMARK" for those who wish to have a debate in a civilized manner.
There is no noise,commotion etc. Its not too disciplined to make it boring.
That's why it has more than 3 million views. It's easily among the most entertaining debates on any religious topic on youtube.
Bhai shaikh sab shaid noun pronoun se na waqif hen jis kitakab ka zikr shroh se ho raha he agr bhir us ka zikr unzalta ho k hisab se aie TU wo isi Kitab ka kaha Jai ga mufti sab zra coufiuse ho rahe hen shikh kisi kjate me nahi he or bohat see mamlat he me TU alim nahi lekin shikh sab ko samanh gia hon wo tuba na uzbilah nabi or aam insan ko ak hi trazo me toul raha he
Xctlyy
Jabir Ali true
Edit Kiya hai video aur sirf acche parts hi dikhaya hai . Ladaai jhagda Kiya tha dono ne par wo dikhaya nahi
Are mere bhai yeh sun ker b Pata Hani chala ap ko ki sahi kon hai.
Jo insaan khud ko abubakar or ummer say apne app ko zyada hi mannta hai, woh sahi kese hosakta
It's most definitely useful for new upcoming generation !
Very useful now we know we are bani israel
Hadids pado tb quran puri hoti h jahilo
@@ashvendrarajpoot7210 Imam ki dosra naam Beimaan hai jaise tum log aaj bhi Sahih doond nhi paye
Ak hindu hone ke bawazood aaj main islaam or mohammad or allah ki respect krta hu. Sheikh sahab k ilm ne mujhe phli bar sahi islaam ka ilm karaya.
Dekh bhai jyada respect krne se pahle Pakistani mulhid channel dekh le, aur ek hindi Quran le aa. Khud padh, sari respect hawa ho jayegi
Bhai ap Pakistani channel na dekhy ap sirf Dr Zakir Naik ko dekh le wo tu Indian he
Kahi apky Indian bhai apko Pakistani na keh de.
Aur ha Hindi Quran koi nae he Quran Arabic me he Hindi me translation he......
Love from Pakistan
Theek kha
Yess brother get education pray and love others no one is kafir everyone is Muslim or if you are whether Hindu Christian or anything Allah loves you same as other Muslim that all that kafir n all is spread by greedy people's
@@GM-ls1zh Sanatan Hindu sabko barabar mante hain hamare yahan pahle insaniyat bad mein din aata hai
Very infirmative and amazing talk .❤
Nice to see a healthy debate from both the sides😍
Both sides!!!
both side ??? nice joke
Itni sari kitaben la k aya hai mufti or shaik akela mashallah sheik is great
Abe jahil bahoot bare jahil ho
Thier is diffrence between knowing quran and understanding quran...
@Shair Dil Very great,I agree with you
I agree
Allah hum sabko hidayat ata farmaye
sheikh sahab ko zaroorat hai kisi qaabil ustaad ki or yaqeen ki
ماشااللہ دونوں بہت اچھا کر رہے ہیں لیکن مولوی صاحب قرآن میں لکھے ترجمہ کو ترجیح دیتے ہیں اور شیخ صاحب ترجمہ کے ساتھ تفسیر بھی بیان کر رہے ہیں اور مولوی صاحب نےقرآن بہت اچھا حفظ کیا ہے قرآن کے الفاظ کے معنیی بھی اچھے سے حفظ کر لیے مگر اللہ نے بذریعہ قرآن ہمیں کیا بتایا ہےاور کیا حکم دیا ہے اور کیا کرنے کو کہا مولوی صاحب کو اس کی سمجھ نہیں آرہی
right sheikh sb good
Very nice s Mohammad,Allah ap ki madad kare,
now i can recall that "" one day will come when they follow quran and completely neglect hadith""
Ho sakta hi ,Allah SWT hamare hifazat kare
This is happened that Hadees was banned and there was punishment on saying Hadees upto Hazrat Umer rule. Only Quran was allowed. Very strange! Sahaba stopped Rasool e pak sayings.
@@Zxy_163
From where did you got this information?
1:36:00 😂😂😂😂
صحیح پکڑا شیخ صاحب نے۔ 👏
اللہ جس کو ہدایت دیتا ہے اسے منتخب کرتا ہے۔
Best ever munazira I have ever watched. , to much humble to each other.
Its too long!
It's not a best munazira. This Sheikh doesn't let other speak and does not answer questions. Sheikh has no knowledge. It's just clever use of language. He cannot and will not accept my challenge.
Open challenge to Muhammad Shiekh Sahab and his followers/students, if anyone can answer this. Muhammad Shiekh claims that this Book Quran(or whatever name Shiekh gives it) which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad bin Abdullah PBUH is the same book revealed to 18 Prophets mentioned in Surah Inam, Ayat 83-89{6:83-89}. It is the same book mentioned in Surah Zumr, Ayat 69{39:69}. It is the same book which was revealed to Jesus PBUH in Surah Al-Imran, Ayat 48{3:48}. It is the same book which is mentioned in Surah Al-Maeda, Ayat 68{5:68}. So my question is if it is the same book(Holy Quran) then when ALLAH SWT mentions Sahabi Zaid bin Harithah in Surah Ahzab, Ayat 37{33:37}, by Sheikh's claims there must be a person named Zaid in every era with each of 18 Prophets mentioned in 6:83-89 and with Prophet Jesus PBUH. How can that be? Who is Zaid? How can he be present in every era when that Ayat 37 of Surah Ahzab was being revealed to every Prophet(to whom the same exact book is revealed)?
And that is just one question, I have many more which your Shiekh can not answer.
@@TheAiM143 brother I didn't say that shikh is right or wrong I just claim the munazira between them is humble no abusive language is used as others scholars Do ..
@@malikfahad9343 Yes you are right in saying they both did not abuse each other but still shaikh didn't played by same rules. He is continuously hammering Maulna Baqi with questions but wouldn't answer his questions. He is repeatedly interrupting Maulna. That's not fair. Also this video is edited so who knows where what happened which they edited.
@@TheAiM143 to be honest this mulana sahib is just PHD scholar and know nothing about how to tackle opponent in munazira . He is very weak in debate.
Shaikh sahab aap ko Allah toba ki toufeeq dede ameen
He is a FITNAH...he is definitely going to create a FUSS in the society.
He seems a YAHOODI AGENT to me...although he cunningly condemns Yahoodis several times...
Tera dimagh kharaab hogiya hia,
Abdul baqi ne wo Deen pharha hai jo yahodioun ne phar ha ya hai.
Pakistan ke halate daikh le, Pakistan Mia Deen ke thakhedar Abdul baqi jiase hi hain.
Deubandari DESHAD gardon ko bhi, 🦊
@@sarfarazahmed2022 Sahi farmaya he ap NE bhai Jan Haq Haq hota he,,,
Pahly tm ko toba ki zaroret hai
وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّن ذُكِّرَ بِآيَاتِ رَبِّهِ ثُمَّ أَعْرَضَ عَنْهَا ۚ إِنَّا مِنَ الْمُجْرِمِينَ مُنتَقِمُونَ۔
اور اُس (شخص) سے بڑھ کر ظالم کون ہو سکتا ھے جِسے اُس کے رب کی آیتوں کے ذریعے نصیحت کی جائے پھر وہ اِن سے منہ پھیر لے، بے شک ھم مُجرموں سے انتقام لینے والے ھیں۔
القرآن - سورة السجدة - 22
Kash ye ayat is sheik ko b smjh ati lkn wo to is ayat ko b apni tarf sy translate krta hoga
@@mohammadarbaz650 molvi pagal ni h Shaik g pagal and jahil h main rahti to sidha bhagati isse dhakka de k
ALLAH HO AKBAR,Molvi xb ki 1 ni suni gyi wesay,PTA ni kahan sy phd ki h
@@mohammadarbaz650 janab apki bt Quran wali thek hai lekin Quran ka Tarjuma her koi ni smjh skta sheikh shab ki pori video dekhy wo to Sahaba ko b manny sy inkar kr rha hai Hazrat Umar (RA) or Hazrat Abu bakr Sadeeq (RA) apko advice hai phly khud video pori dekhy or dusri bt ye k k Molvi sahb jo tarjuma krta hai wo apni tarf sy ni krta Hadeeso sy ata howa ye sb likha gaya hai Sheikh shb apni mrzi ka mazhab bna rha hai lanat hai sheikh py
@@mohammadarbaz650 for your kind information ankhen khul k dekhen mai ny tarjuma kaha kiya hai?? 😏😏
logical discussion of Muhammad Sheikh....within the frame of reference of Quran.... needs to understand without angry and using abusive language......
Abdul Karim. Nei bhai. Wo phr fazool baten kr rha hai. Jahil hai. Iss ko ek chota school k bacha n haraa dy. 2 anay ka knowledge nei hai is shekh ka. Mufti thik bat kr raha hai
Abdul Karim we cannot understand Quran without the Hadis
As aur boloved prophet Muhammad said understand Quran with the light of Hadis don't forget this and Never put such stupid comments without knowing the fact
Abdul Karim iss logic per tum log aik namaz bhi nahi perh saktay ho.
Logic ko le ker baithay raho.
Abdul Karim Quran and hadees have to be understood as per the methodology of sahaba karam.that's all.
It’s not even a bit logical. Can you please translate grass is greener on the other side for me ? Will you take the literal meaning ?
Zabardast shaikh sahab bht achy se smjaya good 👍
Jahi jahil ka sath deta hai 😂😂
ہم سب کے لے علم میں اضافہ ہو رہا ہے زبردست
Allah ki rehmate ho jo quran ki batay krty hain
BAY MAQSAD KI DEBAT HO RAHI HY SHAYKH SAHAB AP GHUMRAHHH HOO AYK LAFZ K MAEENAY 2 YA 2 SAY ZAID BHI HOTY HYN NA K QURAN QURAN PARHAEE QURAN K MANAY ZIKR BHI HYN AUR PAHAEE BHI
AYK lafz k 2 ya 2 say ZAID MAEENAY ho sakty HYN yad rakhoo SHAYKH sahab
M sheek sahab so Kamal hain
M sheek sahab so Kamal hain
Very nice discussion 👌 i daily watch every day,,
But i an not a Muslim but what is deference understanding of Quran with each other
as far as I have seen the video very healthy and professional I like sheikh sab both are good