Makov: Tonicka tortures her youngest storklet. It tries to escape. - Tonicka mučí nejmladší dítě.
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2021
- Záchranná stanice živočichů Makov - Makov Animal Rescue Station - CZ
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*Tonicka torture le plus jeune cigogneau. Il essaie de s'échapper.
*Tonicka tortura a su cigüeña más joven. Intenta escapar.
*Tonicka tortura il bambino più piccolo. Cerca di scappare.
*Tonicka tortura o bebê mais novo. Ele tenta escapar.
*Tonicka týra najmladšie dieťa. Pokúša sa o útek.
*Tonicka torturuje najmłodsze dziecko. Próbuje uciec.
*Тоничка мучает младшего ребенка. Он пытается сбежать.
Thank you for watching. Merci de votre visionnement. Gracias por ver. Grazie per la visualizzazione. Obrigado por ver. Dziekuje za obejrzenie. Ďakujem za pozretie. Dekuji za sledování. Спасибо за просмотр.
(Translation: Google Translate) - Домашні улюбленці та дикі тварини
If you want to show a stork getting rid of younger nestlings, try showing it next time. You skipped the stork getting rid of both undersized birds.
We will probably never be able to understand nature properly. They live in Makov in a sheltered bubble with food in abundance and - nevertheless it happens again and again. Marushka also had a tendency to do so. We have to accept it even when the heart is heavy. Thank you dear Judith for sharing.🙁💔
Tonicka's behaviour also puzzles me. Last year there was the storklet whose leg muscles were developing backwards and he couldn't get up. But nothing happened to him until Pan Libor took him to the vet for an unsuccessful surgery that led to euthanisia. And this year, the smallest yet healthy storklet gets pecked to death in what I consider a moment of rage. She was preening them all rather harshly and when she got to the little one, she suddenly went into high gear. She didn't throw him out of the nest. Rather, he tried to escape and that seemed to make her even angrier. Unfortunately, cruelty is also a human trait. Civil wars. Religious persecution. Ethnic cleansing. Genocides. Bullying. And on it goes. I guess it's the dark side of any specie's makeup. And yet, there is a compassionate side to most of us and that's what counts. Have a pleasant sunny day my dear Marion. It's always such a pleasure when you visit and leave a comment. 😊🍁💐🌞🥂
2 eggs obviously hatched late. That’s 2 birds to get rid of.
Beautiful Video! 👍🍀
Thanks for visiting!
Mother nature 🪶 how could we understant you. Thank you for this wonderful and touching upload 👋👍
It is indeed difficult to understand how a parent would kill a weaker storklet when it is living in a rescue station with plenty of food available. I guess that instinctually it simply made the same decision as it would have if living in the wild. Still, there appears to be an element of cruelty in this scene. As you say, sometimes it's hard to understand the workings of Mother Nature. Thanks for your visit and comment.😊🍁💐🌞
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Mother Nature don't care whether we understand her or not.
Thank you so much 💐 💕
You're welcome NL! 😊🍁💐
This is wonderfoul, thank you
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It is a kind of ruthless bird
Very very nice video my friend 👍
Thanks.😊🍁💐
Tuyệt vời ♥
Thank you so much for your visit and comment. Have a pleasant weekend.😊🍁
Wonderful upload,thanks for sharing 👏💯
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Excellent vdo...thanks for sharing... Have a nice day...
Thank you mijan! Have a pleasant day.😊🍁💐🌞
Wow, I really don’t have the courage to watch all the “ elimination” videos. Is it usually the mothers who do the job? I can’t look.
It's tough to watch! Wild animals can be as cruel as humans. Thanks for your comment and reflection, Pamela.😊🍁
Like 5. Thanks for sharing this video
Thanks for visiting and liking!😊🍁💐
la dure loi de la nature...! merci pour ce partage- Pierre
Merci Pierre et bonne journée!😊🍁💐
Fantastic observation through ur camera
Thanks NS! Have a pleasant day.😊🍁💐
Estaba muy claro, el otro día lo estuvo midiendo para comprobar que era el pequeño. Ahora tiene que ser sacrificado para el bien de la nidada. Es la ley de la Naturaleza. Posiblemente se lo coman para aprovechar las proteínas. Siempre ha sido así, aunque a ojos de humanos no nos guste. Muchas gracias por compartir mi querida BB. Te deseo un feliz día y que Dios te bendiga y proteja siempre, cuídate mucho. Un fuerte abrazo mi querida amiga 🍁 💃 💃 🥀 😘 😘 gr 🇪🇸 🥂
무리의 이익을 위해 도살 되여한다고 합리화 하는 당신은 하나님을 입에 올릴 자격도 없습니다.
It’s called preening and it didnt like the fuss. Once he fell over it initiated her elimination response
Thanks for your visit and comment!🌼
Amazing
Thanks Prince!😊🍁💐🌞
Assim como tem gente mal também tem animais, é aves, terrível
Isso é muito verdade. Obrigada pela visita e pelo comentário, Elizama!😊🌼
Doesn't really look like torture to me, looks like she's trying to pull the chick away from the edge.
Yes, and Joe Bribem doesn't have Dementia.
Velmi smutné.... 😪
Ano, je to nesmírně smutné. Doufám,
Tonicka to už neudělá. Zítra slunečný den, Heleno!😢💔
@@arcticwarbler9299 что она с ним делает? Никак не пойму?
Very interesting.
Thanks kuriko!😊🍁💐
Was this the first attack on that storklet? It looks like she has messed up its neck already. Maybe it's a little deformed...it looks different to other healthy babies I've seen...
Yes, I believe it was. The camera was shut down while the rescue station manager removed it and another weak storklet in an attempt to save them. The little one died but the other one survived and was returned to the nest. Thanks for your visit and comment.
Es muy triste lo q hace la propia madre del polluelo indefenso en lo particular no me gusta pero así es la naturaleza
Sí, es cierto que la crueldad en la relación madre-hijo existe en todas las especies, incluida la nuestra. Afortunadamente, el amor de una madre por su hijo también existe en abundancia. Gracias Ana Maria por tu visita y atento comentario.😊🍁
Please insert human logic and reasoning into this bird situation, get enraged and then comment. It's called "America".
Najmlodszy maluszek niestety nie przezyl ... Tak mi smutno,Judith 😢
To bardzo smutne, ponieważ jest wynikiem aktu okrucieństwa. A obserwowanie małego bociana próbującego uciec było bolesne. Ale ludzie potrafią być jeszcze bardziej okrutni więc... Dzięki za odwiedzenie Leny. I miłego słonecznego popołudnia.😊🤗🍁💐🌞🥂
Há de haver uma explicação para um comportamento tão cruel dessa raça de pássaros para com seus filhotes...🇧🇷🤔😫
Este é um comportamento extremamente incomum. Essa mulher às vezes parece muito excêntrica, e não de uma maneira legal. Obrigado por seu comentário.
Poor thing. I notice that with the Canada Geese sometimes. It’s like they pick on the weakest ones. Did it make it? I couldn’t tell from the video cut and the final scene. Happy Hump-Day, Arctic Warbler! Stay safe :)
The two smallest chicks were taken away. Pan Libor always removes two so that the injured one has a companion. In this case, the tiniest one died of its injuries and the older one is in the aviary for special feedings. I don't know if they will return it to the nest or raise it separately. I think he may have been afraid the second one was also going to be attacked. Apparently black storks are very different from white storks. They're extremely shy and sensitive. And they nest in forests or wooded areas. Unlike white storks who will nest in very public areas. I believe Tonicka acted out of cruelty as there is an abundance of food and they don't even need to hunt for it. And last year, she had one storklet who was heavily handicapped and she never tried to eliminate it. It was removed for surgery which was unsuccessful and it was euthanized. Humans can also be pretty cruel too, most unfortunately. On that cheerful thought, I look forward to viewing today's vlog on your channel a little later on. Have a pleasant evening, George.😊🍁💐🌞
@@arcticwarbler9299 how unfortunate. Fingers crossed for the survivor. May the little one that didn’t make it, RIP. Thanks for the info. Take care :)
@@arcticwarbler9299 yes, a good and important point. Some human parents will abuse, torture and and even 'eliminate' their children... Most sane humans will find this fact to be incredible but it is true. Ask any inner-city social worker...
I'm glad the rescue removed the baby,but u guess my phone just didn't finish your whole site.sorry ,now i know why everyone on the site was thankful.
Such cute adorable babies …I think stork are very brutal as parents I don’t want to doubt why they do but it breaks my heart seeing them dying like this …
Yes, it is very sad. Thanks for your visit Anzel.😊🍁
that nest is barely off the ground by the looks of it
Yes, you're right. The storks are disabled and the nest has been built just above ground as they can't fly. Thanks for your visit and comment, Kerry.😊🍁
Nice 👍
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Thank you so much for your visit, comment and sub. I have subbed your channel.😊🍁💐🌞
Thank you dear Judith for your answer. Yes, we are often stunned next to such situations, wondering why ... Sometimes we just can't find a reason. Sometimes it's a lot of guesswork. In the case of storks there are several "reasons" for this. First, unfortunately, you have to live with the fact that the species is secured with two healthy storks per year and nest. The other chicks are a kind of "insurance" in case something happens to the chicks. Sometimes there was a lack of food. A stork child has to go to save the others. Unfortunately, it mostly hits the youngest chick or a chick that is already weakened. Other factors are said to be the excessive demands of raising the chicks and the stress caused by unfamiliar situations. Another "suspicion" is that the storks are doing some kind of "neurological examination" on their children. The stork nudge the children and see exactly how they react. Unfortunately, if the chicks do not react the way they see fit, they will also be thrown out of the nest. Genetic defects, which we cannot recognize at first glance, unfortunately also lead to the chicks being shed. A small genetic defect occurs every year in a nest that I observe. When the storks in this nest have reached a certain age, one parent begins to peck one stork child after the other until it is bleeding profusely, usually between the wings. Unfortunately, the stork doesn't stop until the chick slowly dies from its blood loss and injuries. In my opinion, it is behavior that makes it clear that the stork is bothered by something about the chick that it is trying to get rid of. He does not reject the chick entirely, but rejects the genetic defect. So every year I watch the nest at the exact time it happens and call the owner immediately when it starts. Then he takes the children out of the nest one by one to save it. They are then nursed to health and passed on to other parents who adopt and raise the children without any problems, alongside their own children. These new parents don't mind this small deficiency. Why this is so will remain a mystery. Just like us humans, animals are very different. As you have already explained so well, dear Judith. Nature is so diverse, exciting, very often puzzling, sometimes sad, beautiful fascinating and cruel at the same time. A big hug to you, dear Judith. It's good that there's you. Take good care of yourself, my friend.🍀🍁🥰
Thanks Marion for your detailed reply. I enjoyed reading it because you are such a good analyst of stork behaviour and because you understand their heart and soul. Judith 🤗
I really enjoyed your reply until you mentioned "saving" a Storklete that had a probable chance of a genetic issue. "Saving" these genetically defective birds can pass on that genetic defect to the defective birds future offspring, making said species genetically weaker as a whole and ultimately, making said species go extinct. The parents are rejecting it for a reason. I enjoy watching these wild birds and I hope, my children's children will be able to watch them too! Mother nature made these birds the way they are for a reason. God put the instincts into these birds on how to handle each offspring they reproduce. It's always best to leave nature to nature. Humans start messing with it and I guarantee we will screw it all up and they will no longer be existent.
People need to stop thinking of the "right now" with these wild animals and think long term because they're NOT. Saving a defective animal isn't going to make any animal species prosper. They already have to fight us humans for space, food etc.. They HAVE TO BE at their peekest possible performance for survival and being defective is just putting off the inevitable.
@@Butterfly-mt5ml I totally respect your opinion. Just in my opinion, people have to see it in a more differentiated way. Since humans rob animals of so much of their livelihood, in my opinion one has to intervene in individual cases and support the animals. People should think carefully about what is too much and where support is needed. It takes a lot of tact. Of course, it is best to preserve and restore their habitat. However, one often sees and experiences the opposite.
As for the little stork, I want to mention that it was a bird that grew up in a stork park. Only the father refused him - the mother not. The surrogate family did not reject him either.
It has a slightly narrower beak. You hardly notice it. This does not limit his life in any way. He behaves quite normally. What makes you sure that he will pass that small difference on to his possible offspring? There is also a genetic defect in my family. I did not inherit it. You have to decide on a case-by-case basis, that's my opinion. I will always save these storks because where they are, they are in good hands. All the best for you, Marion
Terrific and detailed reply. A few points. It is interesting that storks almost never have more than 2 or so fledge per brood, so this outcome is almost pre-ordained. Also, the picked on chicks are almost always the youngest. I think it's less a genetic defect, than "why should I expend more time and food on you?" Now, I have seen some videos where if the picked on chick shows some spunk, and in response fights its way back to the group or, better yet, responds to mom's bullying by attacking its siblings, the mom's attack stops. So I do think this is a bit of a test to see if the youngest of the group has enough aggression or fighting spirit to be worth saving at that point in the process. That's why I think the "torturing" happens before the drop - To give the chick a chance to "prove itself," which sadly they rarely do...
They are not “children”. It is not a “child”. it’s a bird, for crying out loud. Stop anthropomorphizing.
No frontal lobe. Not much of anything. All that’s in its tiny, smooth brain .. no grey matter, you know..is instinct. A bird, lady. A damn bird. Get over it.
Interesting
Thanks Naomi. Have a pleasant day!😊🍁💐
Интересно! Спасибо за видео!
Спасибо Галине! Желаю вам приятного дня.😊🍁💐🌞
I wonder what the purpose of that 'exercise' was. I know there is a dark side to storks - they kill the weakest when they do not feel they can feed all the chicks, but here I am a bit at a loss - the storklet was in the middle of the nest like the others...
Gosh - I have just had a look at the live stream - she must have killed two - only two left! I presume there is scarcity of food?
Pan Libor removed the two youngest storklets. The one that was attacked died of its wounds. The other one is doing well in an aviary. I think he was afraid that Tonicka might attack the second one because it was also weaker than the two oldest.
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I know it's common in nature but this nest is located in a rescue station where food is abundant. I think it was an act of cruelty. When the poor storklet tried to escape, she tried to kill it. Many will disagree with me but there is no other reason. Last year, there was a heavily handicapped storklet who eventually had to be euthanized, but it was never rejected from the nest or attacked. Life is simply replete with acts of cruelty ... Thanks for your visit Luceforall, it's always pleasant to hear from you!😊🍁💐🌞
@@arcticwarbler9299 Gosh - it is sad! Thank you for your explanation, Arctic Warbler. A pleasure to 'stray' into other types of animals :)
@@arcticwarbler9299 Shame about the death. I do hope the weakling can regain its strength and make it to adult life!
Smilas
So cute 🥰
Thank you Geeta for your visit and comment!😊🍁
Always very cruel to see... I know, this is nature... but i do not understand it in every case... Do you know... if the babys are dead or rescued by humans in this rehabilitation?
The baby that was attacked by its mother was removed as well as the next youngest storklet who needed extra feeding. The baby died of its wounds and the other storklet may end up being raised in an aviary with other injured storks. Storks will often eliminate the youngest stork when food is scarce but food is abundant in a rescue station. Last year, one of the storklets was born disabled and no action was taken by the parents to eliminate it. So this year, it was, in my opinion, an act of cruelty. What motivated it remains unclear. Thanks for your visit and your interesting thoughts. Have a pleasant day.😊🍁💐🌞
@@arcticwarbler9299 .... Thank you very much for your detailed answer! I am sorry for the smallest one... and i hope that the other chick will be fine in the rescue center! Yes.. i have seen many stork nests and sometimes i cannot understand with my human thoughts, what was going wrong in nests with killed babys by their parents, although their was enough food... but i have to accept it... Have a nice day! 🖐🤗
So this is sad I have never seen one escape like this but if you look the reaction and his body weight doesn’t look healthy he seem lethargic in a way? @Artic Warbler was there signs of the chick being slower or delayed reaction time? TIA
Hello Danielle. This chick was what we sometimes call 'the runt' of the family. Probably the last born and the slowest to develop. In the wild, there is no time for this. In this rescue centre, the weakest is often taken away and raised separately. That is what they do here normally but in the case of black storks, they do not like to separate them because they are very sensitive birds and a removal could create a shock to the whole family. This chick was removed but it died of its injuries, unfortunately. Thank you for your question. And have a pleasant weekend.😊🍁💐🌞
@@arcticwarbler9299 Yes the last born and smallest. I also noticed that there was another one that during the video just laid there sick looking almost and then at the end there were just two? What happened to the other one? TIA
@@daniellebolstad717 The camera was shut down at the end of the attack on the tiniest storklet and when it resumed there were only two storklets in the nest. Pan Libor picked up the two youngest storklets, the one that was attacked and the other one that was weak, and took them away for special care. The tiniest died of its wounds and the other one is being cared for in an aviary. I don't know if it will be returned to the nest. There are other storks in the aviary so it will not be isolated from members of its species but they are white storks, not black storks. Thanks for your comment and have a pleasant weekend Danielle.
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Meu Deus 😱😧
Um acontecimento terrível! Obrigado pela sua visita.😊🍁🌞
Awesome 🤗😁🙋♀️
Thanks for the visit, Beata!😊🍁💐🌞
You cut out the best bit :(
Praise Jesus what a miracle
Biedactwo trudno się na coś takiego patrzy to były prawdziwe tortury 😥🙈
Był to akt okrucieństwa i biedne dziecko próbowało uciec. Bardzo bardzo smutny. Dziękuję za Twoją wizytę, Hanna.😊🍁💐🌞
Isn't she killing one of babys why are people thanking for a great video, i know its a part of mother nature for them to do that.
Yes, she was attacking the youngest storklet with the intention of killing it. The manager of the rescue station came and removed it to an aviary where it would have been raised separately but it died shortly afterwards. Some people don't watch videos to the end. They just click and make a comment off the top of their heads. Thanks for your visit and for your comment, Anne. Have a pleasant day tomorrow.😊🍁🌞
The spectator siblings tell momma "If you're gonna torture Junior before dropping him outta our nest CAN WE EAT HIM FIRST?"
The parent bird acts out of instinct 😟 not easy to watch
It certainly wasn't easy to watch and record. Usually, when I tape a video, I review it but this time I posted it without doing so. Thanks for your contribution to Baby Lou's comment. I found it very interesting and perceptive. Have a pleasant evening, Emi.😊🍁💐🌞
Wrong, she was preening it but it objected. When it showed signs of frailty it triggered her elimination instinct
They are so cute!!
Yes, they are cute but unfortunately the little one did not survive it's mother's attack. Thanks for the visit FLB. Have a pleasant day.😊🍁💐🌞
The stork is destory chick im very hate him 😤
Хоть иногда еду подбрасывайте, из-за нехватки еды, убивают мамы, даже, я, уже 2-ой год наблюдаю
Спасибо за ваш визит и за наблюдение.😊🌞🌼
Я так поняла,что он чуть не вывалился,а она его подтягивала в гнездо.Я сначала думала,что она его скинет
Зачем так мучать. Она что не может его просто скинуть или прибить сразу. Я понимаю, что естественный отбор у них, но как-то неразумно. Такой клюв мощный, она легко может пробить ему голову, но нет, клюёт и трепет его во все стороны. Че надо вообще ей?
Bad mommy 🥲🥺
Tonicka is not the greatest stork mother and there was no reason for this behaviour, in my opinion. The nest is located on a rescue station where there is plenty of food and the argument that she can detect neurological damage is not biologically convincing. Her behaviour is erratic at the best of times. I believe this was only the second time she had storklets as she and her partner have been living there for many storkless years. Thanks for your visit!😊🍁
Noooooooo !! Why on earth did Tonicka do that 🥺🤔😡
It’s an involuntary natural survival instinct probably, that animal parents might have regarding weak or sick offspring. Instinct tells the parent stork that a weak chick already has poor survival odds, plus the extra energy required to care for a weak chick threatens the healthy chicks survival. So a parent stork might kill or push a weak chick out of the nest in order to be able to turn it’s energy back toward care of the chicks with the best survival odds.
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@@emi7912 thanks for that explanation dear friend ,though cruel guess it makes sense.Very interesting 🤔💕
Emi's explanation is compelling. In the wild and in difficult circumstances, the weakest is eliminated or if food sources are inadequate, even a healthy chick will be eliminated. However, this case is puzzling. Last year, there were four chicks. One of them died on its own, but it's a bit vague in my mind. The third one was born with some kind of a muscle defect. Basically, his muscles were wired the wrong way and he couldn't stand up on his legs. Yet neither T or T tried to eliminate him. He was removed from the nest by Pan Libor and taken to the vet for surgery but that didn't work and he was euthanized. So this year, in an environment of abundance, Tonicka, in my view, acted out of cruelty. She was over preening this chick and the poor little thing tried to escape. And that made things worse for him. She really came after him with a vengeance. And if you think about it, there is a lot of inexplicable cruelty in the human species. Ethnic cleansing, civil wars, generalized intolerance. We can be good at that too, most unfortunately. I thank you both for your thoughts, Baby Lou and Emi. I certainly appreciate it when someone takes the time to post their reflections. Have a pleasant evening and a wonderful day tomorrow.😊🍁💐🌞🐰🐱
@@arcticwarbler9299 Very sad 😟
Ha ha but that's so cute...
Thanks.😊🍁💐
Storks are like this.. They only want the best to survive I guess..
It's quite an exhausting feat to feed and raise storklets so I guess they evaluate fairly early on which storklets are going to thrive and which are not as likely to survive. In this case, they are living in a rescue station where they do not need to hunt for food, so I am assuming that they still behave as if they were in the wild. Thanks for your visit and comment, Sherwin.😊🍁💐🌞
Their mother is teaching them not to go to the edge of the nest. It's amazing 😍😍
Thanks Phurong!😊🍁💐
Your a fool she is killing chick
Mother was trying to kill it's youngest chick. It was one too many.
U sure? I have seen ton of videos of mother storks murdering their youngest chicks and she wasn't teaching it to not get near the edge because every of the video I watch ed of the mother murdering her chick she does that that u say "she's teaching them not to get near the edge" she does it till the chick is too weak or until the chick dies because of how powerful she is u silly or maybe ur right because I can see why u say that but every video says that the mothers are murdering their chicks because their immature not they went too near to the edge
Nah, she was murdering them. Probably, cant feed enough of mouths. Like 40% end like that regarding storklet population. Happens too often.
I just wanted to say that the way that this storklet was being tossed around the way that it was, this was not preening.
When preening storklets, they do it very gently with their beaks to every single one of them.
This one looked like it was specifically singled out and she wasn’t just checking to see how big it was growing.
She was definitely attempting something here.
Yes, the mother had decided to eliminate this storklet and she succeeded. The manager of the rescue station removed the storklet but the injuries were fatal and it did not survive. Thanks for your visit and comment, Ninamarie.😊🍁🌼
Its like it's instincts to nurture and preen are butting heads with its instincts to eliminate the weak for the greater good of the brood. The bird is probably having an existential crisis the whole time it's doing this.
That's an interesting theory. Thanks for your visit and comment.😊🍁💐
Es muy triste , pero suele pasar en los nidos de cigüeñas, cuando hay demasiado pollos, una pena... Gracias por compartir Arctic, un abrazo🤗
Eso es cierto, pero en este caso se hizo con una crueldad inusual. Me pregunto qué la provocó. Nunca sabremos. Gracias, Bimba.😊🤗🍁💐🌞🍰☕
Looks like its half-dead anyway.
It was indeed very weak. Thanks for your visit and comment.😊🍁💐
Violenza in famiglia.. 🤣🤣🤣
Why did you clip the video? Why are there two left? Why post if you are going to censor your posts? That's a real waste of time. Life is not pretty. It's harsh. If you are going to censor it, don't post.
The rescue station in the Czech Republic stopped the camera when its manager came to save the storklet. Not me. Thanks for your visit and comment.
@@arcticwarbler9299 Oh good. Glad it was saved.
@@bagobeans survival of the dfittest
Storks should lay only two eggs then there will be no need to do this😔
It is very sad indeed to observe this behaviour. The idea behind multiple eggs is to make sure that some will hatch and some of the storklets will be healthy. Raising storklets is a marathon and requires so much energy. Thank you for your observation and I wish you a pleasant day.🌼
Can we breed this behaviour out of them somehow lol
If only! Thanks for your visit and comment.😊🍁🌞