7 Stupid GEAR Mistakes EVERY new Backpacker makes
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2023
- Beginner backpacking gear mistakes.
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I never drank water when I needed to when I used a bottle. Once I got a bladder, I was always hydrated properly. Different strokes
How do you know how much water is in the bladder and never suck it dry miles from the next source?
@Michael B initially, it's hard ...and you really can't. But, after several days, you can feel it. I have a 3L badder in my pack. The camelback bladders are crap. The platypus are great and the hold a patch.
I always preferred the bladder because it kept the water close enough to my body to keep the water from freezing.
Just gotta remember to blow the hose clear of water so it's got air in it and doesn't freeze. Plus it's easier to put snow in it to melt to drink. Just gotta add a filter when doing that
@@michaelb1761 How does knowing the amount of water change the amount of water you have? Right, it doesn't. Eighter you have enough water for the trip or you don't. Use bottles, a bladder or a leather bag, it doesn't matter. Plus the water is closer to your body so you can carry it easier. If you're afraid of not knowing how much water you have left, drink the water in the bladder first and then go to your backup bottles. You'll anyway need more than the 3 liters a bladder provides when you're hiking 20 miles through the desert.
Where I climb the damn hoses keep freezing. Bought one 20 years ago and used it one season.
You may want to revisit bottles vs Bladders...Mutiple studies have shown bladder users stay better hydrated than bottle users. There is a reason the military moved over to them over canteens.
I just make sure my pack has a separate compartment for the bladder so if in the RARE chance that it does leak, it's not going to get anything wet.
@@Denvercoder this is a good idea... if you put your bladder is a zip lock bag adds negligible weight and provides a safety and ... a water resistant bag for storage and water capture if needed
It's always good to bring an actual paper map of the area in which you plan to hike.
Weighs nothing.
Every military officer in history has gotten the troops lost, trying to navigate with map and compass. It's always the non rate, red neck that gets them back on course using their sense of direction and what must be witchcraft.
Dont forget make sure it's a topographic map and a compass.
I cannot imagine the number of people who go where they shouldn't because they trust their electronics to guide them, get them "un-lost", and contact for rescue is they get in to trouble.
@@edpomi I like using both.
I'm a big believer in bladders. I don't even do day hikes or ride my horse or mammoth donkey without it. Keeps me way better hydrated. I understand differences though between individuals.
Thanks so much for the tip about airplane mode using less battery! Did not know!
Yes two lighters absolutely!!
A few things to add:
1. BREAK IN YOUR BOOTS BEFORE YOU GO. This sounds obvious and tends to be less of an issue with more modern cushy footwear, but the amount of new hikers ive seen show up to the trail head with a brand new pair of boots they bought 2 days ago is pretty nuts. Especially if they buy a high end pair of leather boots. It takes a week or more of daily wear for a proper break in on something like those. Your feet are your only method of getting in or out. One of the worst things that can happen is getting deep into a hike and realizing your feet are blistered, bleeding, and sore. It makes every step torture. Don't do that to yourself.
2. I would go even further with your "2 lighters" thing. Now granted I live in a very cold climate, however what I was always taught was to carry THREE different methods for starting a fire on any camping trip. Personally I always bring a Bic lighter, a magnesium fire starter, and strike anywhere matches in a small waterproof pill bottle. I also keep a mini bic in my first aid kit. Fire is one of the hardest things to create without the proper tool especially in adverse conditions. Don't count on making a fire bow like Bear Grylls. If you've never done it, you probably won't be able to.
3. Cotton clothing sucks. Once it gets wet it stays wet. Either go poly or wool. Especially with socks. Even in warm weather thin wool socks wick moisture way better than cotton. Wool doesn't need to be scratchy either the new smartwool stuff is great.
4. Don't be a mall ninja. You don't need a giant bowie knife you're gonna get sick of carrying it around and don't buy a knife with serrations on the cutting edge. Serrations on knives make me real mad. Don't act like your gonna be sawing logs with your 3 inch pocket knife, and even if you god forbid need it for self defense serrations get caught on clothing. Useless.
5. Hemp wicks. Like the waxed hemp twine you see really hippie types light their weed with. It's very strong, water resistant, holds a flame like a candle and can just be wrapped around pieces of your kit for storage so you don't actually need to bring a spool of it with you.
Can't agree enough with #1.
For backcountry trips I'd also suggest two separate forms of navigation. Phone apps are great and all but what if your phone gets wet or you forget to sleep with it? It really isn't that hard to do basic navigation with a map and compass for the circumstances most hikers may find themselves in. I don't mean serious bushwhacking, but "getting turned around" or "how do I know I'm on the right trail" kind of stuff.
@@jakesterling2190 Definitely agree there!
Consider linen too. Linen keeps you cool in summer and warm in winter. You can buy a lot of it at thrift stores in excellent condition. It's antimicrobial, antifungal and used to be the only fabric hospital sheets used to be made out of, hence the general term "linens".
@@joyful_tanya ya know I've of course heard of linen but never actually had any linen clothing! I'll have to try some out
@@MitchJohnson0110 all you can do is try and if it's not for you, you tried it out. Happy trails!
Nice advice but never had a bladder leak on me. I fitted a connector on the bite valve to connect the filter to so you don't need to dig it out of the pack. In the UK, keeping stuff on the outside of your pack is normally a no-no as it gets soaked, catches on brambles and generally is a PITA. Different load out for different conditions/countries, though. Lighters get wet. Flint and steel will light in the wet. Mobiles aren't the best for nav. Best off getting a proper GPS and paper maps/com[pass as a backup. Again, it's personal choice.
I can attest for bringing gear for the conditions. I hiked the Unitas Wasatch National Forest (Utah)on the Fehr Lake trail (about 9k elevation). It was my first serious hike. I only hiked several miles through the mountains.
I know that feeling of having no strength to go further. I kept collapsing under my weight. I went in Sept. It was cold! Started to snow. My gear (sleeping bag) was only rated for 45 degrees.
Realizing I went to far and too high...I back tracked, struggling to a lower elevation and camped in the best spot I could find. I went through all my firewood. Eventually broke out my emergency blankets and all my chemical heating packs. Barely made it to morning.
Made it back to the trailhead where my car was and hit the first diner I could find in the next town and ate breakfast. Best meal I ever had.
I'm an experienced backpacker and I love my water bladder. Never had it leak, and even if it did, I'm using a pack liner or garbage bag to keep my gear dry. I like the convenience of the hose and the ability to carry 2-3 L of water if I want to (you don't have to fill it all the way if you don't need to). It's also sitting at the very top of my pack, so it's easy to access.
Exactly.
I’m a beginner and that is the first thing I thought of. 😉👍🏽
Mine has never leaked either. Happy Hiking 🥾🗺️🏞️🌄🌃😊
@@lightwarrior432 Right on, happy hiking to you too!
Yep, especially on tricky routes, where you scramble over exposed sections for 2 hours or more, the use of the bladder is way more easy
The secret to the backpacking resivoir I learned in the usmc is make sure its either hung or strapped to the outside of the pack/ in the top map pouch, as that prevents it from being crushed unless you get lazy and flop your pack down.
Yes, I agree. I've found that hanging a pouch with the bladder from the pack shoulder strap in front works well. It's convenient for drinking or refilling, and counterbalances some of the weight in the pack.
Not all reservoirs are created equal, most have thin seals that can’t take the weight of being sat on. I haven’t had a camelback with wide seals rupture on me, but have seen it happen when they’re crushed inside rucks. Just get a stout reservoir and treat it like you don’t want it to explode.
The military always has a practical solution to every problem. Very nice, thank you for protecting our country.
@Sniperboy5551 You're welcome. But that was a long time ago. I did not do anything to terribly interesting or cool even tho I was in the infantry. It's a weird place. Don't recommend unless you need it to pay for college and satisfy the affordable care act insurance requirements.
@@TrippinBusa I got the source one. And an adapter to run the sawyer squeeze right back into the bladder. Just squeeze the water back into the bladder. Should work pretty slick
I definitely get your point and to each their own, but I like bladders. I have been out a lot and I don't think I've had an issue before, but I always have a spare bottle since bladders are light and bottles work great too. Ive found that I don't drink much during a hike if I don't use a bladder. I dont like to slow down to drink Also, I always put a trash bag in my pack first to put the gear I need to keep dry in and my water is always outside my trash bag in a separate pouch. I do hate trying to keep the bladder clean and not tasting bad. I have to remember to thoroughly dry it after hiking, which doesn't always happen.
Yes, buy a good bladder, huge fan of water bladders
But have you yet to have one leak? That’s where once you experience this your opinion may shift just a little bit. I like bladders too but just picked up some Trail series Hydro flasks that are super light and can double as cold or hot drinks to carry as well
I'm the same, I find a contractor garbage bag fits in my 60L bag perfectly with enough room to roll the top. Plus most bags have a tough enough water bladder pocket to protect the bladder.
I take good care of my bladders, and have yet to have one leak, but even if one did, I would probably just buy another. The convenience on trail is worth it.
Mind you: in camp I have a 40oz Takeya bottle that I usually fill up twice a day and that works for me.
Bladders are very suited to many trekking styles and work better at keeping you thoroughly hydrated, at keeping your backpack's centre of mass close to the body and at drinking while keeping a good pace so I disagree on outright dismissing them. It's true one has to be careful about potential leaks but a bit of diligence solves the issue easily.
On the other hand it's a good idea to also carry a small bottle (500cl to 1lt) along to complement it.
The drinking hose from an old hydration bladder is good to use for a water bottle hack. Convenience of the drinking hose, without the potential disaster of the bladder leaking in your pack 😁
facts! I should have mentioned this in the video
So, I used to help teach a a free backpacking 101 class. One full day in a classroom, and then a month later (giving people time to gear-up), we did a weekend trip…Cole Mountain, leaving Hog Camp Gap up Old Hotel Trail, camping at the clearing. Then the next day hitting the AT, past Cow Camp Gap, over Cole Mountain to the parking spot. Easy trip for beginners, that allowed then to get to know their gear and for us to teach some practical stuff. Even though they were given a list of EXACTLY what to bring…you wouldn’t believe some of the things I saw people pack. We had a young lady that brought high-healed shoes, a sundress and a big makeup kit. We had a guy bringing a giant sword-like knife, and a full sized felling axe. Believe it or not, that’s not the craziest I’ve seen.
Haha that's wild! Also I'd love to find an in-person Backpacking 101 class!!
On the subject of water bladders, I forget where I saw it but there's a bladder addon kit you can get for like $30 which gives you a quick release to attach to the hose and then either the drinking valve connects to that or when you wanna fill it they have a backfilling nozzle that threads into a water bottle so you don't even have to take the bag off to fill the bladder. They do still leak like crazy if you're not careful but if you do have the ability to keep them from popping and don't mind carrying the weight then this is a good solution. Plus you don't have to fill it all the way. If you're gonna be making a ton of stops for other people to fill their water then you can under fill the bladder and it's way less likely to pop.
Also any hiking stoner is guaranteed to have more than one lighter on hand lmao
I’ve never gone on a “real” hike before (I hiked up a mountain for like 3 hours once) so I don’t know whether this info is useful for me. Regardless of that, I really enjoy watching this channel. This guy has me imagining myself hiking the Appalachian Trail some day. I initially found him through his true crime kind of videos, but I stayed for the hiking content!
That sounds like a real hike! You don’t have to be out for multiple days for it to count. Congrats, hiker!
Yeah its decent advice. Been hiking for 30 years and there will be a few things to tweak to suit your style. Start small and work your way into it. NEVER do the first multi day hike alone. Join a hiking group and go with a mentor. Enjoy the great outdoors
I definitely agree about everyone has their own way of hiking . My first hiking was in Boy Scouts , and when we went hiking , your pack weighed 50 pounds . If it didn't , you had to make it . I understand the ultra lite hikers gear choices , but I prefer the historical mountain man equipment where they brought everything but the kitchen sink . I'm old , so I can't imagine not having everything I might need with me .
I really like a bladder for day hikes or training hikes when the goal is to go fast and put in miles. I prefer bottles for long distance multi day trips. the bottle approach is nice because it makes me stop, rest, and look around at amazing things instead of just keeping my head down and putting in miles without appreciating the scenery.
I've never had the bladder problem, we used them in the marines. As for other options there are those adapter thingies that just screw onto a water bottle and then has a drinking tube you can attach to your shoulder strap, I think they're available from a lot of different places and in all sizes, can't remember where I got mine though.
Mine used to pop all the time when I was in. I had the worst luck with them. Just started using Gatorade bottles at the end
Socks are an underrated essential pice of kit. Finding the right height, weight, material is key to comfort. Also knowing how to turn this up or down based off the conditions took me a long time to dial in.
I feel like I have almost the opposite problem to this video… when I get excited about a new hobby I deep dive into research, I’ll spend dozens of hours on individual topics related to the hobby watching videos, reading articles and Wikipedia pages, I start taking notes and figuring out the important points of each subject, and then comparing how popular products/solutions fair in comparison with each other.
I had a break up about half a year ago, and since then I’ve gained enough knowledge on backpacking to write a college thesis on the subject. Yet it’s only rhetorical knowledge, I’ve only been on about 10 day hikes and 1 overnight… hopefully two over nights if my plans work out in the next few days. I find my self overwhelmingly limited by time and budget. All the gear I have, I’ve tested at home in my basement, kitchen, backyard, and only get to test out in the woods on occasion. I set up and slept in my tent in my house the day I got it, then in my camp next to my cabin, then at an ATV camp site, before finally using it on my first over night. A similar story for my filter, freeze dried meals, shoes, ect…
Man I just wish I had more opportunities to go out. Hopefully in the next few days I’ll be hiking the Connecticut high point along with a few other summits for a single night hike. Honestly if I had the finances I would start the AT right now for a few weeks to see if I’m up to doing the whole thing come next March.
I will say the reservoir is my weakness. But when I start doing multiple day hikes, I want to get a bottle reservoir kit, so I can still have the convenience of the shoulder straw for only a few ounces.
You can have my water bladder when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. I carry it in my pack, but outside of the pack liner. Been using the same one for 25+ years. No leaks yet.
I've been hiking with water bladders for 10+ years and the only "leaks" I've ever had were as a result of accidentally squeezing the bite valve between my chest and thigh when tying a boot. I will start carrying a bottle or 2 for redundancy though.
I'm stressed right now! Not necessarily because of gear but due to packing. I have 4 days to finish packing before my buddy comes over to help me put my shit into storage. I have a couple more days after that to train someone at work how to do my job while I'm gone. Then I have a road trip from NY to GA before I start. I'm 50 so I hope this stress doesn't give me heart attack.
duuuuude!!! I just put my stuff in storage a few days ago, came down to Austin to see some pals, then I'm out to GA to start on the 17th!! see you on the trail. and if not, good luck!
What about (BPA) and phthalates in the smart water bottles? Any suggestions on bottles that are healthier?
Been using a water bladder since joining the military in 2002. Never had a problem with them. Maybe checking it regularly and packing in a way as to allow easier access to the bladder will help. My osprey bladder is lab tested (BPA) and phthalates free.
Decathlon/Quechua makes a hydration valve adaptor for the bottles they make. Basically a pipe that goes into your bottle and then you get the sturdiness of the bottle and the convenience of your hydration bag/reservoir. It works very well.
Third year of usage of my cheap 10$ 100oz military surplus water bladder.
I usually keep a spare. The thing that really sucks about them is the cleaning and taste of a new one.
I can usually make a full one last a day in summer and several off season. Highland tactical packs forever baby!
as an archeologist who hikes to and from remote sites carrying the tools I need for work. for the most part I dont get to choose most of what weight I'm carrying. but I am not carrying, trecking poles, a tent or sleep system I was wondering what gear I can combine or sacrifice to make my 40lb pack lighter I already gave up my mallet and just use a hatchet to both clear brush and pound stakes I sacrificed my knees for a short shovel instead of full length. I'm thinking of giving up a hydration bladder for a filter bottle and I'm fairly certain I'll give up the radio I cary for music and replace it solar phone charger.
Ive been very fortunate not to ever have a water bladder leak...but then again ive never taken one on a very long trip. I baby all of my gear and I try to distribute the weight around my pack to prevent anything from pressing too hard into the bladder. Having one leak on me is a real fear I have. I did a desert overnighter where we needed to pack our own water as there was none to be found where we were going and I needed to carry 6ish liters...there is no super convenient way to carry that without a bladder. Hydroflask makes these super durable bags with twist tops that feel damn near bulletproof while still being lightweight. I carried 4 liters that way. It sat on top of my gear in my pack and I had two smart water bottles that I refilled off of that. So heavy.
I don't know I'll ever through hike, but you're slowly giving me confidence to start trying some local stuff. Thanks.
Have fun out there!
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Having a Adirondack flag behind you, you know in the spring and fall the weather varies wildly depending on the time of day. It can be 75 during the day and then drop to 30 at night. I think the Adirondacks highlight the importance of doing your research of the conditions you'll face. Every year some tourist goes for a day hike, gets lost and die from hypothermia.
Backpacking is a learning curve. I usually take way too much food. Worst mistake was taking 30 granola bars on my first real hike. I still hate granola bars to this day lol
But better to have too much food than not enough
I always take a few military packs, ones we got here are real good, compact and lot of calories
The one thing I dislike about hydro packs is not being able to see how much water is left. I've only had a couple leak in 25+ years using them, one because I didn't take care of it. Neither were catastrophic and one I kept using for a while with a duck tape patch. You can get hose couplers to connect the reservoir to a filter and fill it without taking it out of the backpack.
i use bladders all the time day hiking, and my reasons are due to high hydration needs. i hate having to stop to drink. also i’ve never had a bladder leak because i’ve never bought camel backs (leakers), and also mine fold up similar to cnoc reservoirs, none of those unusable screw top variety…super easy to fill. hydra pack or osprey have not leaked on me in the past 10+ years. ALSO there are strawtop adapters that you can put on your water bottle and attach a hose. my mileage varies in terms of this particular thing you call a mistake.
The advice seems to mostly be about ultra light backpacking. Some of us work out and eat our veggies and can carry a little more weight without any ill effects. I have never had an issue with a 3 liter water bladder and can fill it in place without having to pull it out if necessary. I also bring along reserve water and filtering options. I keep some of the stuff in my fanny pack.
So main lesson, have common sense. I've never gone backpacking, never hiked, but this June I'm walking from Wimborne in dorset UK to scotland! Here's the list I've got of stuff I need, lmk if I'm missing anything. Doing this as a personal challenge and for my own mental and physical health. Gonna visit loch eilt and some other Harry potter filming locations too! Here's the list:
Sleeping/camping:
Tent
Mattress with built in pillow
Sleeping bag
Tent lights
Lightweight folding chair
Camping groundsheet
Spare tent pegs
Shower tent
Hygiene and laundry:
Portable Shower
Anti insect Shower gel
Anti insect body spray
Toothbrush
Toothpaste
Hand sanitizer
Deodorant
Shower spray
Just add water wipes
Towel set
Portable washing machine (scrubba 2.0)
Laundry detergent
Foldable water bucket
Portable Clothes line
Food and drink:
Cook set
Washing up liquid
Butane Stove
Folding Wood Stove
Dish cloths
Drying towel
Thermos
Water filtration system
Collapsible water bottle
Energy bars
Multivitamins
Coffee
Can lids (for tins)
Shopping bag
Ziplock bags
Water purification tablets
Safety and survival:
First aid kit
Survival kit
Firestarter kit
Kindle
Windproof lighter
Headtorch
Solar Power bank
2 portable chargers
Hatchet
Shovel
Sun cream
Clothing and accessories:
Main Hiking tshirt
Jumper
Thin waterproof jacket
Water resistant trekking trousers
belt
Waterpoof overtrousers
Isocool boxers
Hiking gloves
Base toe socks
Hiking socks
Hiking boots
Hiking shorts
2 Short sleeve Hiking t-shirts
Hiking poles
5 dry bags
Rucksack rain cover
Backpack
Waterproof bum bag
We once canoed 12km, capsising once along the way. When we arrived, we found that although we had thought ahead to pack 2 lighters AND some matches, we had stupidly put them all in the same wet-bag. Which had leaked. A lot. We couldn't light our stove, a fire or 420. Devastated, we went to bed knowing we'd have to head back the next day. Thankfully one managed to dry out and was working the next day, so our trip was saved. But lesson learned. Store them separately!
Paper map…not to stay on trail usually, but in an emergency to see surrounding areas if you need to bail. Phones break, batteries die. Paper gives you a reliant backup. But only if you take the time to learn how to read a topo map properly. Make a checklist before you pack. There’s ALWAYS something you forget if you throw things together at the last minute. One lighter in the emergency kit, one in your pocket. If you’re half blind and wear glasses…bring a backup. Ask me how I know. Bladder vs bottle? Personal preference…they both have their pros and cons…but bring a few tablets of chemical sanitizer for emergencies. Bandanas are highly underrated. They do everything.
I agree with the your take on water pouches. I've tried one a few times and I just don't need the extra water capacity, so I start to feel the weight more. You don't necessary have to fill it all the way but its so inconvenient to refill them most of the time, that I prefer just fill it regardless. Although it is pretty convenient to have the straw strapped to your backpack strap, its not all that much more convenient than simply reaching around the my side-pocket and grabbing my water bottle. I did have one friend tell me he liked it because it help distribute weight more evenly, but I feel like I can just compensate for that by packing my bag carefully, which I do regardless. Heavens knows I spend enough time fussing over my pack before I leave anyway...
Dude, your Trails Tales episode this week was excellent
I totally understand your bladder argument! I had a 3L one on the PCT and just before Kennedy Meadows S. I noticed my back was getting wet. I lost over 2L of water in my pack. Since then I use only bottles, and always put my sleeping bag in a garbage bag. Saved me a couple of times on river crossings and such.
Love your content man! 👍
The bladders suck they always leak
Thanks to channels like your I made some good gear decisions up front. The only thing I replaced was my backpack. This was a good list.
I was lucky to start during the ultralight equipment revolution of the 80's. Colin Fletcher's books and Backpacker magazine were a wealth of info back then. No cell phones obviously, we studied topo maps and gathered info from those we met on the trail. I believe one of the most useful items to take , among others, is a hiking staff.
What are your thoughts on hiking staff being important?
I like keeping a dirty bag (Platypus) instead of scooping dirty in the Smartwater bottles. I keep it in the outside pocket (except in freezing weather - then close to the body so it does not freeze).
Duuuude! 87.9k!! your so close to your 100k goal! Keep it up you’ll get there.
I think you should have a open mind, many people use water bladders. I personally can never get water bottles in out of my pack pockets. And I just remove my bite valve and use a compact msr water filter and pump my water into my bladder. This is with out taking my pack off
Hey man, I appreciate you continuing to make these backpacking tips videos. Clearly the storytelling videos are blowing up (congratulations) but I def enjoy the informative vids still. Keep going bra
I nod my head in agreement with you with a resounding "yes! Solid advice" however the water bladder situation I could not get on board with. I certainly think that precaution and discernment are necessary here, but a leaking bladder is simply a pre-schoolers mistake. First of all get a good quality bladder. Secondly Twisting the lid on so that it screws in correctly should be the only point of a leak aside from the mouth piece. But I've never had a mouth piece that didn't have a stop lever. I really thought you were going in the direction of deception. Because while you may think you have a gallon of water, depending on water loss (i.e. weather, humidity, fitness) one can go through water sucking on the straw without knowing how much is left.
I've personally had my water bladders for over 10 years and the only leaks I've had were when I didn't screw the lid on properly and didn't test it (turn upside down and shake rigorously) or switch the mouthpiece lever off.
I truly believe having a source of water that can be reached with ease without fumbling with side pockets or stopping to open pack is important for a new back packer. Because the number one mistake a new backpacker can make is dehydration.
First suggestion is figure out how much food you will need, then double it because you will be hungry and if you're think you'll hunt or fish or gather wild edibles then prepare to be very hungry because hiking is not (supposed to be) survival! Pick a backpack that will carry a little more that you need because you don't have to fill it to the max but sometimes the extra room comes in handy and make sure it has a waist and chest strap! I carry 3 one quart plastic canteens, never had one leak, one's in the backpack (with a canteen cup, CC stove & lid), and the other two in pouches attached to the front of the waist strap. Those are easy to get to and along with a can of bear spray and a secondary small knife attached to the shoulder straps help balance out the weight of the backpack! Also, if I have drunk the front two canteens dry without coming across a water source, then finding one becomes the priority because dehydration sucks and blows! To me the weight of a small tent with a floor is worth the extra comfort/safety one provides! I carry three-to-four lighters (in different locations) because I'm a pyro, I mean fire enthusiast and they are great trade items as well as a great gift always needed out backpacking! Additional, a few candles do the same for little weight! As far as maps, I buy the state topo atlas where I expect to be, making a copy of just the area or trail I plan to travel and the next in each direction then laminate them, much cheaper than buying individual area maps! Last a small folding saw and small folding trowel makes life on the trail easier!
I've used my water bladder since 2018 and never have it ever leaked one bit, be sure to put it outside your pack liner separate from all your other gear if it ever failed on you
That old Datsun manual transmission I drove, shifted into 4th but would go back into 2nd! Gear mistake.....My bad LOL.
hahahaha this is funny
@@KyleHatesHiking Love your humor of sense too Kyle 😊
I use a Platypus 2L and a Sawyer Squeeze In-line.. placed on the top of my pack between the body of pack and brain. Works well. Never had a leak..so far
Dude congrats on all your new subscribers, you’re killing it 💪🏼
It’s all about trial and error:) you will get better and better with each experience in the great outdoors.
While he was talking about don’t stress about gear or watch too many videos about gear I had an image in my head if Kyle tackling and fighting Dan Becker in the woods while Dan tries to talk about gear
Howdy Kyle Ray in Forks Washington after that first story and 65 my self, I think the best idea is always take a friend or two on wilderness trips. Rachel on the other hand seemingly a short hike in steep rugged terrain plus the time of year with weather I wish she would have turned around with the hikers she met on the trail. Prayers to the three and thanks the valuable information.
20 years I have been doing this, both for pleasure and work. I have never had a reservoir leak. Condensation from time to time…but never an actual leak.
three things. 1: i think a hug is sufficient. two if your hiking the AT yes water bottles are enough but if you are hiking though the desert.. i fould the lightest, strongest thing in the 5 liter bags that come in a wine box work great. you will need pressure to fill them. 3: prep you two lighters and carry an alternative. what i mean by prep your lighters is wrap them in 15 inches of duct tape and i wrap my knife sheath with something i can fish with and sew with. duct tape makes a great bandaid and temp fix but its not great for fixing you pack,pants,or tent.
Really like these tips and will try to take your advice as a lifelong hiker thinking about getting into longer backpacking for the first time since I was a Boy Scout.
Especially the bit about having multiple firestarters! As someone who used to have both tobacco and 420 habits, it’s good to have an extra lighter because so many times when you encounter fellow smokers, you’ll share a lighter only for it to grow legs and walk away! 😂
Once upon a time, there was a naked man named Jerry. Jerry loved backpacking and camping, and he did so every chance he got. One day, while hiking through the woods, Jerry stumbled upon a fisherman. The fisherman was sitting on a rock, minding his own business, when Jerry suddenly leaped over him.
The fisherman was startled by the naked man flying over his head, and he dropped his fishing rod into the water. Jerry landed gracefully on the other side and turned around to face the fisherman.
"Hey there, buddy," Jerry said, grinning from ear to ear. "If you're a new backpacker, you've come to the right place. I'm about to tell you about seven gear mistakes that beginners make."
The fisherman was confused. "What are you talking about?" he asked.
Jerry proceeded to explain the importance of efficiency when choosing backpacking gear. He talked about how using an inefficient water filter or choosing a backpack without accessible pockets can be a huge mistake. The fisherman listened patiently, but he was still wondering what this had to do with him.
Jerry then went on to discuss the importance of knowing your gear. He mentioned how it was important to test out your clothing and set up your tent before going on a backpacking trip. Again, the fisherman listened, but he was still lost.
Finally, Jerry got to his personal gear mistake: using a water bladder instead of water bottles. He talked about how his reservoir had leaked and ruined his sleeping bag. The fisherman finally spoke up.
"Dude, what are you even doing here? You're not even wearing any clothes!" he exclaimed.
Jerry looked down and realized that he was indeed naked. "Oh, right," he said sheepishly. "I was just so excited about backpacking that I forgot to put on clothes."
The fisherman chuckled. "Well, why don't you come sit down and join me? I've got some spare clothes in my backpack that you can borrow."
Jerry gratefully accepted the offer and sat down next to the fisherman. They spent the rest of the afternoon chatting about their love for the outdoors and sharing stories about their adventures.
As the sun began to set, Jerry realized that he had learned an important lesson: sometimes the best gear mistake you can make is forgetting your clothes and making a new friend instead. He hugged the fisherman goodbye and headed off into the woods, ready for his next adventure.
I had this happen once while out fishing, except the man was partially naked, wore a loin cloth and carried a spear.
I'm definitely thinking that both you & Jerry need two lighters when you go backpacking so that you can continue to blaze it up 24/7.
I hiked the AT in 2016 started out with a smart water bottle but went to a osprey water bladder , hooked it to a platypus gravity works and never had to take it out of my pack.
#1 the platypus although heavier made it so I just fill up the bag and then throw up my hammock while it’s filtering water. Saved me about 30 minute every-time I filter water.
# 2the platypus “clean bag” can connect directly to my osprey water bladder.
#3 if ur bladder leaks you have bigger problems if ur sleeping bag gets wet . You sleeping bag should always be in a water proof compression bag for the “what ifs” never rely on your pack to keep ur items “dry”
#4 and my most important reason for switching is my HEART RATE. While hiking if I got thirsty I would have to grab my bottle … which I had to slow down or even stop . This would slow down my heart rate . With a water reservoir I could just put the hose in my mouth take a drink and keep on hiking pay little to no effort in getting a drink of water. This might now sound like a big deal but on long distance hikes maintaining a comfortable heart rate is key to putting in big miles in a day.
Now there is a down side you don’t know how much water you have in your reservoir. At any given time and second the weight is almost 4-5 times that of a cheap water bottle you get at a gas station.
For me keeping my HR at a steady pace while putting in 20+ miles on the AT was fundamental, the added bonus of the platypus doing all the work while I’m making dinner , setting up camp, lounging in my hammock was a huge selling point.
I had two different sawyer squeezes on the AT, the mini and the big version. And it took too much of my time. If ur going ultra lite and don’t mind spending 30 minutes to an hour filtering water than get the sawyer.
1:45 love how he didn't take his pack off 🤭
I like the convenience of scooping up water over looking for a spot where you sit sorta comfortable, but I found the classic ceramic filters are easier to clean/service and more dependable, so I'm actually moving back to the pump system.
I agree about the bottles, I like to see how much water I have left.
Hey Kyle, have to agree on the lighters, I lost one doing a hike around camp once. How do I light my stove to eat? How do I light a fire, if I want one? For all they weigh it's good to have a backup, then you don't need do a little bushcraft. Ease of mind, no need to stress out!
Back pack reservoir I love. Used it on every solo hike I’ve taken. Just love it, and it’s worth the weight
Good video man. I'm feeling the gear crunch stress for sure, but more just getting everything in time. I did all my homework so there's no stress about missing anything important at least. I have realized I will be cutting my tent footprint on trail because I forgot to last fall.
The wife and I used bladders for a while. They were a real pain to refill when we used the Katadyn Vario, but once we switched to the Sawyer Squeeze it become much easier. However, it wasn't much longer after that we ditched the bladders altogether. My issue is that I never knew how much water was left in them and hated the idea of going into a potential long stretch with no water being completely unsure of how much water I had left in the bladder.
Leaking bladders are the reason you put your stuff in waterproof bags or a pack liner. And what backpacks don’t let you put the bladder outside of your pack liner? I rarely use bladders now because my BeFree is much more convenient, but on hot days on trails with uncertain water availability you can’t beat them IMO.
I’m officially a fan now. I’m hooked. Humor, intelligence, very good videography skills, passion… Seems to be a winning combo… Thank you for all that you put into this. PNW 🇺🇸 ✌️💜
👍👍👍 .. cannot fault your logic.
Lighters .. two are good. Having in addition, a box (or two .. ala lighters) of Matches is even better. I wrap my box in 'cling wrap' and then into a ziploc bag to 100% waterproof it and then put it away in one of my pockets. Then I use a lighter with, if necessary for those hard-to-reach places, a length of cotton off a floor mop soaked in wax. The matches? Their function then is to infuse a sense of warmth through my body 😏.
Back yards, parks and in my case, a 3rd floor flat (apartment) balcony. They're there to 'test the water' regarding new / unfamiliar gear (paddling before going out on a marathon swim). My test bed has a tile floor (a body heat sucker of note) and when the glass doors are open, temperatures match the sub-zero outside.
I bought a pack without external pockets (a 35L climbing pack, got it cheap on marketplace). HOWEVER, I have modified it so that it now has a water bottle pocket, and a large mesh pocket. Modifying gear for the win!
If I'm carrying anything with down fill, water stays outside the pack if at all possible. I keep my down in a trash bag, but I'm not willing to bet it doesn't have a pinhole after a while 😅 My reservoir is for day hikes with my weighted rucksack only.
I have tried bottles and bladders. I will stick with the 3L Platypus Big Zip bladder the majority of the time used in conjunction with the Gravity works. I would rather have too much water than not enough plus most of the water sources where I backpack have tons of sediment and it is a hassle to have to constantly backwash the Sawyer. I save the majority of my weight by using an ultralight sleep system and lightweight shelter. I am not an ultralight hiker by any stretch though. More of a backpacking camper who may stay in the same camp or general area for several days once I am in the backcountry. YMMV.
How do you know how much water you have left in the bladder?
@@michaelb1761 With a little experience you get a very good feel for how much is left in the reservoir based on how much you have drank. I drink a lot of water so at a minimum I am looking to top off around mid day then again either before setting camp in the evening or after breaking camp in the morning depending on consumption. If I am camping in area for several days I will fill the reservoir and then the dirty bag on the Gravity Works to have a supply at camp, at least if I am not camping very close to a water source.
One Bottle Hydration-Smartwater bottle conversion is a solid option for the best of bladders and bottles!
I still use my bladder and I love it. I have to help the guys I'm hiking with get their bottle out cause they can't reach it without taking their pack off.
haha i mean fair enough. just my opinion, glad it works for you
Agee… I used a bladder for years when I was in the USMC & still do. HYOH.
Maybe there packs side pockets are to small and built wrong.
That sounds more like a pack or planning problem than a water bottle problem.
My bladder isn’t the problem it’s my prostate. I wish Drink LMNT would start putting saw palmetto in their mix…
About the extra lighter and just extra gear in general, the way I usually hike is I drive my truck to a trailhead and whether it's a day hike or overnight, I'll park my truck and go. So what I did was I got a $12 duffle bag from Dick's Sporting Goods and I filled it to the brim with "extras". I have extra clothes, extra lighters, extra food, extra everything. I leave it in my truck and I know what worst case scenario, I only need to hike back to my truck if I run out or forget something.
Obviously, this isn't feasible for multi-day hikes but I don't do multi-day hikes. :)
I agree. Don't stress Kyle. Just bring a chair and relax and chill out at the end of the day!
My first multiple day outing here in western Montana I took way too much weight with a pack that was garbage my sides looked like hamburger by day three I was a mess learned alot lol thats class 2 fun..
Hey bro, that's sooo true about the lighter mistake, I got all the way out, probably the farthest from civilization on the trails & looking so forward to sparking one & lost my lighter, clouds so couldn't use lense... glad I was alone so nobody could hear me bitching at myself 😂
I think Kyle is talking about using a bladder from a long distance hiker perspective. I have used water bladders for day hikes and mountain biking for years but I never use them for long distance backpacking. There is no way I am trusting one bag for my single water source. I also like to carry as little water as I truly can, it’s a weight thing. With Smart bottles I know exactly how much I have. Bladders are a pain in the ass to deal wit. I do lot of long distance trips and I just don’t see many people using water bladders. I think they are more for the weekend warriors.
They also make those water hoses that screw on to bottle tops so you can have the best of both worlds. My friend had a bladder leak in hot weather and she was massively screwed not having enough water.
Need to get the US military issue water bladder! 18 moths between Iraq and Afghanistan and used one the whole time and never ever had one leak on me! Great video bro!
Love that Paris Mountain shirt! Definitely my favorite state park in SC
I know bladders are unpopular with thru hikers but I would have never drank water if I didn’t have one. I used the same one on the AT, AzT, and PCT and it NEVER leaked. It did freeze before I learned to blow the water back into the bladder and not leave it in the hose after drinking.
great video, thanks!
Great tips, esp like the tip to turn your phone to airplane mode *when there's no signal* to save your battery. Thanks Kyle!
Just subbed to the channel. Popped up in my suggested so I've watched a few videos and even though I'm not even a hiker I enjoyed the stories. Good luck on 100k!
Thanks so much Colby! You should give hiking a try sometime
Who knows…you may get the bug if you keep watching guys like him. The enthusiasm is contagious. Enjoy
#1 on the hydration bladders. PIA ,because the gear expands as they empty. I smile at the emphasis on the phone which once upon a time we did not have and actually carried maps. But they are a tool
and with Mapping apps are pretty useful. Not to mention can be a safety item for lost or injured hikers.
Dude..weren't you just shooting for 30k or 40k subs on the PCT? Congrats on your recent success man
So happy to see your channel grow, Kyle! Been watching you since sub 20k, and your content is as dope as ever. Thank you!
Instead of a 2nd bic try a firebiner. Multipurpose and just as light
In addition to an ignition system like a lighter, ferro rod, etc., I always bring some basic tinder such as flax tow, oakum, and a few sticks of fat wood to get the foraged wood going, especially if it’s damp.
I use a squeeze filter and a gravity one, squeeze for on demand and hike with the gravity one setup on my bag like an iv drip
I'm kind of fascinated by how many people actually take vacations and just go and go. I love being out in nature, but to just go and then go home again is not My biggest dream. I like to fish out in the wild, preferably in lakes that I can be alone at for a day or two. Thanks for a wonderful and entertaining channel
I consider thru-hiking to be 100% different from day-hiking. I recognize this is totally weird to say, but I love thru-hiking but don't totally love day-hiking.
Bring and know how to read a paper map in case you run out of batteries. Plus, you just get to know your surroundings better if you have to figure out where you are on a paper topo map. Bring a compass as well. Laminate if it will be damp.
I have spent the better part of 4 days binge watching all your videos... & YES I subscribed. 😊
Good content is good content and yours sir is good content.
Great Video, don't forget Yeti-Strength pepper spray, bear spray isn't enough these days, GPS transponder, Firearm, signal flare, Drone helicopter support, 3 dogs, emergency blanket, water camel, first-aid kit, katana, flashing lights to communicate with the aliens, secret service, and to be safe a silver steak and some garlic for the vamps. Could I just come with you? -Dad
I’ve been using the sawyer fast fill adapters and the squeeze bag to fill my water bladder without taking it out of my pack at all. Takes me 5 minutes max to refill a liter water
I’m looking to go to Moab in April but with the crazy winter storms this past season I’m not quite sure what sleeping bag/quilt to get. I’ve heard it could be in the 20s but averages are 40s. Any suggestions on prepping.
You can get a bivy cover, which is a thin waterproof layer. You can get two sleeping bags - use one when it is warm, double up when it is cold. That is a sleep system. You can fit all this in a compression bag, which is a storage bag covered in nylon straps that you can tighten until the whole sleep system is the size of a volleyball. Military surplus is a good model; there are civilian equivalents to this system.
I've seen some water bottle connector (adapter?) Things that attach the same type of hose for a water bladder to a bottle. I haven't tried one yet, but that seems to have the convenience of the hose with the durability of the bottle. Personally if I use a bladder I'll also have at least 1 bottle too
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