How to disassemble and maintain the WE Knives Banter (with first impressions)
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Today, we'll take apart a knife that's pretty straightforward, and a nice little tool, designed by Ben Petersen (formerly of BladeHQ), a guy who knows a lot about straightforward and nice tools.
Thanks for the kind words, Nick. It's been incredibly fun to rub shoulders and collaborate over the years. You're a gem, and I'm grateful to know you.
you're awesome ben, keep up the great work. I'm happy nick is reviewing your knife says alot.
No, Ben your a gem😂
Fuck nick. You’re the man Ben.
Absolutely nothing good to say about the "We Banter" especially with the price point for what material/lock/blade/pocket clip they use. But I've been using knives and making some knives longer than many youtubers and commenters have been on earth. So just my 2 cents from multiple multiple decades on the scene.
@@grizzlycountry1030 the new 20cv one is amazing.
I think it would be interesting if you guessed the price before looking it up in the future! Great video as always! :)
Here in Europe it come around 130€ at the boker.de
Ben did such an awesome job designing the WE Banter. Such a beautiful but yet simple design. It looks like pretty close to the perfect smaller edc knife.
Thanks for showing the tear down and proper lubing! I am excited to get mine tomorrow! Have a good weekend!
As most know I'm really not a fan a small knives. I'm in love with this design. It's just a simple easy knife. This needs to happen more often. It's about function and this has it. For my taste a 3.5 inch would be perfect
I just got both of mine today! Always enjoy your videos, Nick!
I love Ben. I'm so glad this exists. I don't think he has designed it to be a "Gem". I personally think it falls just below "Gem" territory. Which kind of makes it a gem in its own right. Boring is good. Boring works. This has the whole "non scare factor" and ease of use going for it. But I do actually hope Ben makes a "Sexy" version of this. Slightly shallower height blade with some more rounded scales etc.
I'm glad I check out BHQ a few times a week. Forgot this knife was coming and still managed to snag a blue one
Thanks for the video Nick. Mine came bone dry and because of that a bit gritty. Took it apart cleaned it with alcohol pads and applied a minuscule bit of daiwa reel oil and wow! I do like the knife, I have the Ben blue but I wished the black stud matched the rest of the hardware which silver.
Well a Ben’s knife design as per his belief is not meant to be a great knife ... just a knife for people.
Not scary, easy going, allowing some office task and practical slicing, somehow affordable.. There you go. As simple as that.
Rick koontz Agreed. Its a long stretch !
@@freduutx3989 Also agreed. The S35VN steel is a solid choice, but there are plenty of knives in this class that come in at the $80 price point.
Simple ,basic and a very clean design. It looks like a practical and usable tool worth checking out.
Simple is good Nick. Looks like a good little knife.
Looks like a winner. Thanks for the review 👍
"Exxon Shabazz in fine form"... I literally laughed out loud. Brand new to the EDC/knife scene and have been enjoying your commentary/videos, sir. The Banter is at the top of my list as I'm putting together an urban EDC kit, thanks for the video!
Can’t wait to get one !!! Luv ya Nick !!!
This is honestly like an upgraded CRKT Squid for me. I loved that knife but sold it because I wanted to transition back to 3.5” blades. So looking forward to getting this knife in the post. I love the simple and utilitarian look. The only downside it has in my view is that it isn’t a frame lock. Other than that, I think I’m going to really like it.
I LOVE the Squid. Such a good knife.
No bells. No whistles. Just a solid looking knife that’s well thought out and made by an excellent manufacturer. If it was US made I’d be in. Sure wish Hogue would expand their product line by working with some up & coming designers.
I've never wanted an XL version of a knife so bad before! It has such a clean design.
That pivot design where it fits into the little slot in the scales, I knew I'd seen the exact same thing before.......Civivi
Mine stripped the cutout first time i removed the screw.Now when i tighten the pivot screw the WE logo end spins.I had to superglue that part to stop it moving.Dont mind its fine and i love the knife but this was a bit dissapointing🤷♂️
i love knife with a simple clean lines. i like the squid therefore i like the banter as well.
I like the looks of that one.
Nice price too.
Thanks for your review
Modern Journalism: Nick Shabazz so disappointed in new WE knife he throws pivot to the ground
quick note
on the blade its says wiug in square or something which stand for
what is up guys
pretty decent and cute feature to consider
Already got my pre order in.! I would like to see Ben blue ,with black blade. Kerry
Still thinking about the CJRB Feldspar you covered last month. D2 steel and classic lines with near perfect machining (counter sunk steel liners!) for 35 bucks. Normally I am a Kershw Fan Boy for Budget EDC but.....Yeah CJRB Feldspar for Budget EDC GOAT.
I miss Ben's videos
Received mine today in Ben blue. I like it.
What is up guys?!? .. I have a blue on the way. Excited to get it. I like the simplicity of it, especially the satin and blue version I have coming. Not really into the tactical look.
It's a simple design, but simple in a reduced-to-the-archetypal-elements sort of way that makes me think that if Apple designed a knife… this would be it.
If Apple had designed it, it would of been $900 and made of AUS8.
@@Ephem13 this made me laugh so hard. Thank you.
like how easy the disassembly is, and your right sometimes boring is good. but there's no wow factor lol. still want one in ben blue. hopefully I will soon
Everything about this knife screams yes to me...until I look at the pocket clip. Non-reversible, once again we are banished to the not for you realm of the knife world.
This knife is easy and I like that.
Blade shape reminds me of a CIVIVI Elementum, without the flipper tab, which I’m not unhappy about. I might need to pick up one or two of these.
You put it in your pocket, you take it out and the bearings are contaminated.
I guess that's one way to look at it. I've carried it for 6 months now, and I'd say it gets dirty at a similar rate to knives on washers. I guess for me, use = required maintenance, no matter the pivot mechanism.
Ben Banters I am a timber cutter and I would like to buy one off you and put it thru the paces. Are you interested in some real world sawdust and dirt feedback? Looks like a cool little knive.
How does that happen.
We put all of our knives in our pockets?
🤨. Never had that issue.
Looking forward to the OD green Banter.
Looks like We's version of the Bugout
3rd, cant believe you didn't get it in ben blue
Solid little EDC knife but with everything else out there I just cant see myself purchasing this. Way more interesting knives out there that are just as good value wise but way less “boring”.
Hey Nick,
Any tricks for taking off thumbstuds like these? Pliers and painters tape?
Ben is kinda known for liking small, simple, boring knives. I was surprised that they weren't PB washers tbh
It definitely looks like a knife I will be interested in. Right style right price. What do you think Nick?
Such a nice, no frills, design. But.... not designing it to be lefty-friendly is pretty crappy. Would it have compromised the design so much to leave a cutout for the pocket clip on the other side?
It’s a knife for people who aren’t ‘knife people’. It’s the quartz beater watch of knives.
I’ll need to add that to the sound board.
Wish they would make a tip down banter. Looks like a decent knife
This knife looks nice I wish I would have jumped on it when they were in stock. On a different note... do you have an opinion on the ZT 0022
look up reviews i was going to buy that one but the reviews say it isnt that well put together.
Tyler Haley yea I have seen mixed reviews on it personally. Some people seem to love it while others say it’s totally not worth it. I did manage to hold it at a local shop and I will say just in that time it was a cool little knife. I’m wanting to get a small secondary knife and thought the 22 seemed neat. Still shopping though.
I'm a Z. T fan have several. I like small high quality knives .I've almost bought one several times .I need to see it and hold it before I drop $200 on it .I wonder about the action? Kerry
Kerry Kitterman the one I was looking at seemed rather smooth. I was quite surprised with such a small blade.
I want to see a carbon fiber and 20cv version.
Love the review Nick.
When will you be doing another knife steels video? New opinions and blade steels.
I can get this knife as sharp as any knife I own. Disassembled and cleaned today for the first time and can't get it to flick like it used to. Any tips?
Will they come with the second batch?
BladeHQ said there is more on the way.
This knife looks remarkable similar to the American Lawman from Cold Steel sans the finger-choil
What’s the ETA on the full review? 👀 I’m really interested to hear your thoughts, as I love the thing! Much love!
Liner lock and frame locks are inferior to the likes of compression lock imo (quicker to close less likely to cut fingers) i am waiting for a knife with compression lock or similar button lock, void opening(elongated hole) and flipper. Kind of a light weight smock with a bigger spydie hole. Bens knife looks short and fat, I like smaller knives 0450 is my #1 edc but not fat.
u should check out hogue they have some button lock smaller knives like the microflip
It doesn’t look to have any spring assist but how does it open so quick like an assisted!?
Bearings are like that
Fun with printers!
I like it, but it is kinda like the Subaru Forester of the knife world.
Hello Nick , what is your opinion of the Carl Schlieper "Eye Brand " knives ?
What kind of lock tight is that
Loctite 506166 All-Purpose Medium Strength
"Exxon Shabazz" LOL
I will say it's def nice! Dont get me wrong.. I have both as well but they really aren't my style tbh. Definitely a great blade but not for me. Great video as always! 🍻
how do I take the thumb studs off?
You said that bearings are ceramic. Why do you need to oil them? I thought you don't need to oil ceramic bearings and they will run slower if you do.
Exxon Shabazz... 😂😂 a full and out-loud guffaw on that one
That's the knife ben from blade hq (well he's not there anymore) designed.
easyki84 ya don’t say
@@sinjon sorry, I had no audio as I was watching this.
Greg Medford just called you out and name dropped you on FB live! He called you out on your censorship.
Oh Greg. May he find peace and success.
That guy is a knife. Get it?
Oh wow I didn't know he was a designer. Cool
Well... he is now lol. Its basically an upgraded Elementum tho imo.
@@Tier1GearEDCReviews I've heard that a couple times. You should get them side by side. They're incredibly different knives. ;)
@@benbanters Tbh that's a great idea for a video. I'll have to get another Elementum tho lol. I think had you been able to do the axis lock like in the original sketch, it would have my name all over it. However as a knife guy.. I do appreciate subtle details like the blade steel used for the price and recessed hardware. It does feel much beefier as well.🍻
Kinda like a Spyderco Techno mixed with the crkt Pilar a bit
_RL _ huh? I don’t see either one of those in this knife. Not even the blade shape. I’d also carry either of those(I LOVE my Techno 2) over this bland thing
That dude Ben (and most knife reviewers / shills) are annoying AF, but I really dig the look and action of this knife!
Thanks bud! We should hang out one day. I think I'm less shilly and less annoying in real life... hard to say.
I hope you are enjoying yours Nick. Mine seems to be lost in the mail and BladeHQ as I'm learning has the worst customer service, and I can't get a response.
I really don't get all the fuss about this. Doesn't speak to me at all. Nothing bad about it, just very bland in my eye.
I like it because it's bland. Solid office carry. Can't wait to get it.
I do like the basic blade shape but the aesthetics of it are incredibly boring and vanilla. I feel like more should’ve been done to jazz it up a little. It looks to be a good user though. I just can’t stand DLC blades. 2 cuts and the finish is screwed
N ST there’s a satin
Agree boring , don't know what's the hype about
I think most of the hype is from “Ben is a good guy” and a good marketer. The knife is solid, basic, and affordable so is easy to mass market
Whaaaaatissssssssszzzzzzzz upguys
Adam Szuszkiewicz not much with this knife
Exxon shabazz. Lol.
Does it pass the finger test
Matt Lowe I’d hope so
This knife, in no way, deserves WE Knife branding. It should 100% be branded as a Civivi. It is so basic and uninteresting, how does that represent WE.
William Rhyne we already has a knife very similar, the Elementum. Besides, with Civivi you’d get inferior D2 steel.
I've heard that a couple times, and I think it was something WE talked about extensively internally. I'm glad they went for it on the WE line, despite it not being their usual fair. I heard someone say it looks like a pickup truck among a lineup of high-end sports cars. I like that analogy.
@@benbanters Hey, pickup trucks are super useful to the right people! A very good analogy.
Exxon Shabazz lol
I'm sure people like the guy (Ben?), but the knife.. It's a bit meh. To me the most attractive thing is the S35VN steel, other than that, I prefer my D2 Squid with jade G10, and it's only 35 bucks, not $100+ for a small knife.
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Why are your hands so sensitive?
Is it me, but I think you put too much lube on bearings. Usually, they require a drop or two but you kept pouring it like a hot sauce.
I like the utilitarian aspect of it, but that price point for S35vn, G10, bearings and a good grind...? Nah.
Danage $108 for S35VN is pretty decent
When you gonna upgrade the video quality
В подшипниках столько смазки не нужно!!!!!!!!!
So he made the squid.
DirtyEagles The squid has more appeal to it imo. Ben did once work for CRKT though so I wouldn’t be surprised if he took cues from it
bought it and returned it the same day. not for me. my mini griptillian is just too handsome to be replaced by this.😂
What products did you use to lubricate the knife?
Maicon Dos Anjos tell me this isn’t real.
Baron Torres what's your problem man?
Nick is using nano oil it’s his go to lubricant. The weight depends on what he’s lubricating. I can’t tell the weight on this. It is pricey for lube but effective.
Guessing Nano Oil 10wt. Seems to be what he uses most often. I hope that helps ❤️🔪
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It’s a Ben knife and it does not come stock with blue scales?? Criminal
There’s two versions- this one... and a blue one.
Anyone know what torx driver he uses?
Sergio Morales the size or make? That’s a T8 ifixit driver but he does use Wiha drivers too
It is on his website
A KNIFE FROM A NON KNIFE GUY,? IN PRISON IT'S A SHANK, SHARP METAL W/HANDLE, A TOOL WITH NO PARTICULAR USE, MY RANT IS OVER ,THANKS
Looks like he is going down the same road as Laconico, bore them to death design wise and they will buy it out. Ugg, please I need a knife to talk to me not put me to sleep.
Decent little chinese made flipper, and the price is reasonable. But this is just another example of a limited available knife that most of us cannot get our hands on. Sure, maybe they will do more production runs, and I expect they will, but the reality is the rest of us average Joes wont be able to get one for what, 6 months? a year? And who knows what it will be like with US-Chinese trade relations. Anyway, thanks for the review :)
What of steel is the blade??? Did I miss you saying???
Ben, no thx.
First view and comment and like
Thanks Nick. This knife..... This knife has got to be THE MOST uninspired design Ive ever seen. I like the way WE counter sinks their pivot to end up basically flush w/ the scale (whatever) this knife looks like a 5 year old drew it. I feel like the people who buy this, want to feel like they're "in the club" - even the knife community has sheeple. Fall in line everyone.
Your statement about people buying this to be "in the club" is absolutely ridiculous. There's a lot of people who like it for the small and simple design made with good materials and We quality. This is 1 of the least expensive We knives that they have ever offered.
Bottom line is that I think it's a nice design and the fact that it's all sold out shows it. I also have yet to see any selling on the secondary market either, which is a good sign that people are happy with it. I guarantee I could get more than I paid for mine but I don't want to sell it because I think it's the perfect size. There aren't many knives I know of that can fit in the 5th pocket that I can get a full grip on and with the blade width this has. This has a great usable blade for how small it is.
I really hope Ben continues on with new designs. I think a bigger version of this knife could attract a lot more people and I think just rounding the handle a little more could stop all the idiotic comments about this knife. I personally think it's a great knife as it is and probably has the smoothest thumbstud action out of any thumbstud knife I've handled.
I can't justify the $128 price tag for a basic liner lock. At this price you're competing with Bugouts and Paramilitarys. Sorry Ben, for 80 bucks sure. But not for 130.
It's $108
I don't blame you at all. For $108 bucks, you can buy so many cool things, and I can't fault you if you don't want to spend your hard earned money on this. No harm, no foul.
I don't know how anybody can expect to get a We knife with S35VN steel and G-10 handle material for any cheaper. I think this is a great value for the price. All versions of the Bugout are more expensive with cheap flimsy scales and S30V steel is a step down from S35VN. This is also a better value than any Spyderco PM you're going to get. For this price you get FRN and a budget steel from Spyderco.
Absolutely nothing good to say about the "We Banter" especially with the price point for what material/lock/blade/pocket clip they use. But I've been using knives and making some knives longer than many youtubers and commenters have been on earth. So just my 2 cents from multiple multiple decades on the scene.
God that thing is Ugly. Not interested in the least.
Çok konuşursun, berbat sömürücü.
One of these fine days someone will do a real review of this knife. You Nick was my only hope but the Ben nice guy persona was even too much for you to tell the truth. Too bad
Idk. Seems like a office knife to me.. It's cool looking, but I want a man's knife..