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why would you buy hardware upgrades when the games have never been more sloppy, badly or hardly finished and boring for "muhdern audiences" anyway ? To play slop ?
A 12GB 5050M, 16GB RTX 5060, 18GB 5070, and 24GB 5080 is exactly what gamers and professionals need right now. Of course, Nvidia will likely not do it.
why would you buy hardware upgrades when the games have never been more sloppy, badly or hardly finished and boring for "muhdern audiences" anyway ? To play slop ?
@@Tigerhearty GPUs are for more than just playing games. People need high VRAM for huge Blender projects and professional CAD. Right now is like back before Ryzen when you had to get an Intel HEDT for higher core counts. Up until Ada you needed a Quadro or a 3090 for higher VRAM. Ada at least got more than 8GB to the 80 and 70 tier cards but it's still a $500 premium. That's why AMD is doing well with professionals, 16GB of VRAM for just $320 on the 7600 XT being an absolute steal. So don't assume everything is for games, you're making a complete fool out of yourself
It's true but the reality is that they put in the work. It isn't by chance or evil intent that they are dominant. They dominate with superior products.
@@IHaveALotOfBraincells Sure it's overprice garbage, but it's still better than the other guy's garbage. That is the point, is there another guy with a better none garbage product?
@@Tien1million amd offers more for less, and now that fsr 3 frame gen exists there is quite literally zero reason to buy nvidia except slightly better drivers
Haha it's same for ALL MIDDLE MANAGERS in big corporations... When I was in HR in a +30.000 employee company, they sometimes would skip their bonus rewards for a whole year to save money, while still paying middle managers HUUUUUUUUUUUGE bonus checks (I was part of the paper-work bonus payout process), and not only that, but the people who did all the hard work on the bottom, had ridiculously low paychecks compared their colleagues next door sitting with e.g. the IT SAP systems, they basically just adding and changing numbers and letters in a system, no paper, no long formulas or workflows to follow, just really simple work, and they would be paid 50% more in salary. When they skipped the bonus reward system for a whole year, the middle managers would still get their bonus paycheck that as a minimum would be 240% of my monthly salary, and sometimes as high as 400% of my monthly salary, as a bonus for their "hard work".
If I would pick up the banana on the left on me and place it on my right, it would be on my right. (Both true, and just completely useless information)
@koek4539 Not exactly. The OP's comment might be a post hoc statement, but it can at least inform the reader that maybe taking chances on investments is worth investigating, as it could make you rich. Whereas your banana statement is in fact truly meaningless.
@@koek4539 the fact is NO ONE thought nvidia stocks were gonna skyrocket any time soon. they were just a graphic chip manufacture in 2016 and gaming growth has been pretty stable for the last 20 years. no one foresaw that graphic chips would make the best AI processors (except nvidia) at that time , hell know one even knew that AI was gonna explode like it did. tat's wat OP was kinda saying. any one that happened to have nvidia stock sitting around , just got loaded when AI exploded .
Nvidia should be broken up like AT&T was.....they can spin off the gaming, enterprise, networking, etc all off into separate companies....it would be OBJECTIVELY better for consumers
@@hypermiraclepositivegirl2415 if Jensen still the CEO of all new "separate" company then what's the difference if all of them still under Nvidia banner?
I mean i don't blame the nvidia employees if you just turned 30 and have 5 million USD in shares that you can offload and retire when you are 30 years old.. why would you not do that. You can buy a nice house that is pretty low maintenance, and nice Tesla, and still have 4 million in the bank to live off. If you invest that wisely. you can pretty much live on ~100k per year without any debts, and have no bosses or customers to deal with.. Not having a boss or customer = zero stress and having no money troubles makes your life stress free (If you have no partner or kids then the world is your oyster to enjoy. You can jump on plane anytime and travel anywhere). Not many people get such a chance at life you will be in top 10% of the world. Id say that's already an achievement if life was a game those people clocked it already.
It's everyone's dream to retire early and be done with the rat race. Jensen wants nothing but hard intense work why torture yourself when you already made it.
FIRE is the early retirement thingy. Fat fire just mean retire early and spend lavishly. Compared to barista fire which is retire, but work part time as a barista to sustain extra expenses.
@@arenzricodexd4409No it's actually much worse than other tech companies. The Nvidia bad working stories are pretty extreme. Working til 2am type of stories
The culture at Valve also contributes to it. You decide what interests you and can select the project you wanna work at apparently. Turns out they all wanna work on steam which makes the big money apparently.
Vex is right about this: DLSS and FSR don't make any sense for any competitive game because you will increase the latency. I go a step further: it doesn't make any sense for any game. The only reason why the more experienced and knowledgable gamers started to care about FPS is because a lower FPS used to imply a better performance, as long as the framepacing remained similar or improved. With DLSS and FSR that does not apply, that is basically like gaming on smart-TV, all that added processing to upscale the images indcreases the latency with tenths of %-points, the gaming-performance gets worse. Developers need to optimize the code again, gamers need to educated themselves and not buy a game unless it has a good performance without such gimmicks.
History has shown that when this happens, a company just loses its dead weight anyways. Usually the people that brought success and innovation do it because they actually like what they do, so paying them more won’t affect their retirement status. What you are saying is teaching companies to starve their employees into complacency, and that works opposite to advantage. Seems that Nvidia just needs to hire people who enjoy doing the direction the company has taken
I feel like high profile tech CEOs try to fit into a narrative that they should be hard to work for because being extraordinary and shaping the world shouldn't be easy, blah blah blah. Here's a novel idea. Try being a joy to be around while staying motivated to achieve your goals. People around you might become motivated as well. Choose love.
Here's my opinion on how much vram cards should have 5050 8gb 5050ti 8gb 5060 12gb 5060ti 12gb 5070 12gb 5070ti 16gb 5080 16gb 5080ti 24gb 5090 32gb 5090ti 32gb These are perfect
Yep. You know some of the super wealthy will get ahead of the collapse and thousands of investor will get absolutely fked by a blind collapse. The super rich are cut throat and will work together to orchestrate maximum profit and maximum screwing of those that aren't in the elite conversation. Lots of good people will be knocked down from wealthy to middle class lol guaranteed.
Oke, then what GPU's are you gonna buy? There won't be any high end spec pc's anymore, and no one would really be able to play 4k properly. Well done, you ruined the industry!
@@Kcolonel_69 How is "High end GPU's for High prices" worse than "No high end GPU's at all"? All you're literally doing is taking away peoples ability to choose.
@@koek4539I'm mostly gaming at 1080p/1440p and I'm satisfied with my aging 2060 super, I've been using GPUs since 2005 and I've never spent more than 300$ on a card, high-end gaming is a waste of money, all that expensive tech will be mainstream in a few years
@16:00 They're the same becvause it's the same chip (underneath the extra cache) and they're clocked with the same frequency (5.2 GHz) for the benchmark run. Cinebench doesn't get a performance boost from the additional cache. I can only guess at this point but this could mean the new 16 core X3D chip will only go to 5.2 GHz while the non X3D part can go higher than that (5.7 GHz with proper cooling and power limit set up). With those extra 500 MHz the CPU should be a bit less than 9% faster (huge grain of salt here) than the X3D one.
Do not forget pcie4 -> pcie5 which has twice the data rate. So 3GB is a big deal and, with the faster pcie 5, you can transfer more bytes with the same bit width.
It isn't slower because it is AI. DLSS FG has a little more input lag because Nvidia wanted a certain level of quality on the output image. FSR has less input delay but the quality is lower. It is all about a tradeoff. Personally, from my experience.. using dlss FG on single player games to go from 60(80) to 120 fps is a valuable tool to utilize your high refresh screen. Lag is barely felt especially on games that are slow to react like Hell blade 2 or whatever it's called. I would personally use DLSS upscaling before using fsr FG to get better input lag if that is what I was aiming for. But.. I have a 40 series so.. I have real world experience so my opinion is actually applicable 😝
This is exactly whats happening at my workplace, our manager is salary while we're hourly pay. Our manager does absolutely minimal work and gets out early every single day while us hourly folk do all the work they should have done and we get over worked and quit or lose interest in doing thw right work. The place is a hellscape now, we lose people like every 2 weeks and we're all trying to fill the gaps (obv manager isnt doing shit) and its a terrible loop of suffering
@vex FSR 3.1 is a nice longer lasting upgrade, 3.0 on games was running on FSR 1.0 when you use frame gen, also all future updates after 3.1 will just be a drag and drop DLL file (no need to rewrite game engine code) also I get 220-270 frames at 4K in game without frame generation when I turn on frame gen I get 400-500 plus so input latency is really not an issue. Any time you’re starting out with a very good base frame rate frame gen does has a near zero penalty. Frame gen has already been in the game for about a year when they added FSR 3.0
They've essentially put all their stake in the Ai market, the problem is that this is entirely dependent on Ai developers and legal disruptions that are coming to make their product relevent.
About the passively-cooled 7900XTX, it probably relies on case fans to deliver positive air pressure inside the case. Note they don’t sell to consumers only B2B. When designing a complete computer, you can use large quiet fans for that.
Note that you also have a higher power draw with that adapter, it is a wire, it has resistance, you lose some electrical power. It is a colossal waste to make all these cables while the user has perfectly fine 2x8 or even 4x8 (my PSU) PCIe-cables. There literally is no valid reason to replace that connection. Easier? Yeah man, it is so incredibly complicated to have to plug in 2 cable with 6+2 plugs instead of 1, that really makes a world of difference. (I assume that the sarcasm is clear)
if you are willing to pay 2000 for a gpu ,you have more money than brains , i don t even know a game that it s worth a quarter of that ... the only way to get them back down to earth is to show them we are not falling for their bs marketing, they ve only raised the prices so much because during covid ,everyone was willing to pay anything for a gpu...
GPU can do more than just gaming. most of nvidia geforce sales are no longer coming from gamer. and this group of people consider $2000 4090 still cheap than true pro vis GPU or true compute GPU from nvidia.
I dont think anyone on their right mind would be surprised if 5090 doesn't reach 32+Gb, we know they have done 48GB on the RTX A6000 back in 2020. Just Give the power to the average consumer and let them be creative run their own simulations and AI models.
There was just no way amd rx8000 would be skipping the new connector. This situation was exactly like when samsung mocked apple for removing the p2 connector, then did the same.
Here's the issue with being payed with shares though this happened with my wife. Worked for a company they gave everyone shares NOW, you could only get those shares if you work there for two years to 3 depends on the company. then after those years you're now vested, for your stock. But if you get fired or leave before that time limit they set for vesting you don't get crap. So technically the share pay is to baaically incentivise you not to leave and depending where you work they could treat you like trash to leave your job.
I wish they wouldn't go ai with their newest gpu's and cpu's. Many customers hear that word and have privacy issues, especially considering what windows is planning with recall, Etc...
People are self-motivating. People are best motivated when they get to do what they love most and have the technical freedom to explore their imagination. If people get paid to do that, it's a cherry on top. It's as simple as that.
Framegen is good for games with an FPS lock. Games like dark souls and Elden ring have a shitty 60 FPS look. And it's not like "starfield 60 FPS" it feels more like 30-40 FPS. Simply activating AFMF2 (AFMF1 caused a driver crash in that game😂😂😂) turns Elden ring into a very smooth game and even allows RT Max on a 7800xt in 1440p native. If AMD wants to sell GPUs and gain market share, they have to sell the x800 XT GPUs for 350$-399$. The 499 was way too much and I actually did regret buying my 7800XT for the first 9 month due to frequent driver crashes in specific games (WoW, League of legends), making them way more expensive than Nvidia if I just calculate Price/time without annoying crashes.
15:00 "It's only a 13% inprovement..." "Only"???? 13% inprovement is HUGE. I think the problem is that everybody jas been spoiled and has had tbeir expectations ruined by Zen2 and Zen3. The 20% performance improvements of Zen2 and Zen3 are ABERRATIONS....theyre not normal or typical, but now, every new Zen generation is expected to achieve 25% generational uplifts and it simply wont happen. Obtaining huge inprovements like that are getting extremely difficult as nodes get smaller and everything gets more conplex. We shouldnt expect 20% gains anymore. Im not trying to take these companies "off the hook", but i think its crazy that qe can see something like a 13% increase and think its mediocre at best
I agree. Ppl like to say zen5 is a failure but it gets huge uplifts in server applications and the vcache variants will be(should be) clocked similarly to the nonvcache versions so I can see an easy 10+% uplift for 9800x3d over 7800x3d in gaming and since the clock speed is much higher.. production workloads across those chips will be MUCH higher Gen on Gen. Like +20% x3d to x3d in production. Zen 5 vanilla is not a gaming cpu.
Glad their finally Experimenting with the 12v Connect on AMD...finally have a reason for owning a 3.1 Power Supply because I want the single connector since again all the issues come from a 90 class card doubt the 5090 will be any different and while others don't want it I do for AMD. i'd have a total of 3 Cords instead of 4 or 5, 12v for the GPU, 24pin for the mobo and 1 8pin for the CPU
Evidently AMD has the same problem because judging by their ideology to never fail to fail to capitalize on anything they're also sitting on stocks. Maybe it was better when engineers were relatively poor compared to top management?
13:37 - these are put into server racks with massively high speed fans blowing air through the CPU/GPU heatsinks - think of it as that the fans are attached to the chassis and not the heatsinks themselves. Noise isn't a concern in a server room.
One of my employees graduated college last year, and Nvdia hired her immediately... She could not even remember to bring her boots to work at least once a week (not intentionally) ha ha ha .. Jokes on them education does not always mean a good employee..
Did you say a passively cooled XTX? Is it cheap? Maybe it would be worth it if youre doing a custom loop if the price is right lol. That's just insane to think about
Psychopaths always end up in leadership. They are the first to seem like they deserve to be there, because they take credit for things they didn't do, and are quick to throw others under the bus to make themselves look better. They also seem like leaders, because they don't hesitate to tell others to work harder. I don't see a solution, it is what it is.
@@roklaca3138 Oh come on. You know yourself that even my wish isn't really realistic. And Nvidia would do a shit to make a 1000 dollar card available for 370 bucks a few months later. A 5060 with the power of a 4080? Fuck, then it would only be 20% slower than the 4090. You probably don't believe that yourself.
So nvidia has at least mostly looked after its staff and those staff have produced great results for them so now they might need to look after staff less well because clearly doing something different to what has been proven to work is the only option. I know thats not the exact point of the video but it does seem to be the probable outcome, Nvidia certainly wouldn't be the first to do something like that and I suspect with the typical results of getting less out of the next batch of people who end up in these roles.
I disagree. If you want your stock price to stay where it is, you have to run your hamster wheel as fast as you can. And if you want them to grow (and hence your personal wealth with it) you have to run even faster.
My 4070 super has that same connector, and mine hasn't melted yet. I haven't heard of anyone who has had this problem outside of a 4090 actually, I think it is a 4090 issue only.
Lets be honest. The only way to correct this is for amd to step up and people should buy amd. And im mainly an Nvidia user. But im tired of these prices when i know its all artificially inflated because demand and "AI"
It is probably not hard to get hired on by Nvidia because their turnaround is probably very high. Between weeding out the initial incompetent. Those that go on may be treated with most of the work, pushed from those situated in the company with no care for those starting out. Those not wealthy enough to not care if they loose their job.
So they are ethically compromised because employees are working for people with a lack of integrity and pride. They are proud of their money, but not of their work. Hate to break it to ya, but this the standard in manufacturing. I've had 1 boss in 12 years that I respected. Every other boss has been a person that wants to bring their zombie-like clock in and dissociate for 8hours work ethic to the management table and it's bullshit
Been calling this bullshit AI bubble for a while now. I did just read a comment somewhere that equates Nvidia to 'selling shovels during a goldrush', and I've not yet heard a more apt comparison or analogy. This shit will burst. I give it three years, tops. Better adjust your investments accordingly.
thing is AI has been going on for a decade now. nvidia has been pushing for AI/ML since maxwell era. if AI/ML really really just some temporary bubble it will burst long time ago.
Please don’t make overly clickbait titles, clickbait-y titles and thumbnails are needed to succeed on UA-cam that’s not a problem. But please don’t name every video ”this is the end…” or ”this ____ situation is….”
I was forced to upgrade recently from my GTX 1060 6GB to a RTX 4060 TI 8GB and i feel ripped off so much even through i bought it at a big discount the low VRAM is a massive problem and i feel like this card won't last much like my 1060. Nvidia is really pissing me off im considering switching to AMD or even Intel GPUs.
We'll see how Nvidia works this out... at the end of the day, this problem is kind of a flex.
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Average penguinz0 title:
More like asmongold
@@FevrDrimwhere do you think he got it
@@FevrDrim that wouldve been "Nvidia situation changed my life"
this is word for word a florida jesus title haha
why would you buy hardware upgrades when the games have never been more sloppy, badly or hardly finished and boring for "muhdern audiences" anyway ? To play slop ?
Pyrolive
A 12GB 5050M, 16GB RTX 5060, 18GB 5070, and 24GB 5080 is exactly what gamers and professionals need right now. Of course, Nvidia will likely not do it.
why would you buy hardware upgrades when the games have never been more sloppy, badly or hardly finished and boring for "muhdern audiences" anyway ? To play slop ?
@@Tigerhearty GPUs are for more than just playing games. People need high VRAM for huge Blender projects and professional CAD. Right now is like back before Ryzen when you had to get an Intel HEDT for higher core counts. Up until Ada you needed a Quadro or a 3090 for higher VRAM. Ada at least got more than 8GB to the 80 and 70 tier cards but it's still a $500 premium. That's why AMD is doing well with professionals, 16GB of VRAM for just $320 on the 7600 XT being an absolute steal. So don't assume everything is for games, you're making a complete fool out of yourself
@@RobloxianXTrue, this is a gamer UA-cam channel though...
Yeah, 3000€ gpu is exactly what i need to play games....mindset failure
@@TigerheartyLook at all the PS Exclusives coming to PC.
Even if 90% of market is dogshit, a couple of good games are enough for people.
Nvidia is now nothing but a meme for corporate greed.
It's true but the reality is that they put in the work. It isn't by chance or evil intent that they are dominant. They dominate with superior products.
@@christophermullins7163 They dominate because they used to make superior products. As of the 40 series, all they put out is overpriced garbage.
Companies will do what the market will bear.
@@IHaveALotOfBraincells Sure it's overprice garbage, but it's still better than the other guy's garbage. That is the point, is there another guy with a better none garbage product?
@@Tien1million amd offers more for less, and now that fsr 3 frame gen exists there is quite literally zero reason to buy nvidia except slightly better drivers
Haha it's same for ALL MIDDLE MANAGERS in big corporations... When I was in HR in a +30.000 employee company, they sometimes would skip their bonus rewards for a whole year to save money, while still paying middle managers HUUUUUUUUUUUGE bonus checks (I was part of the paper-work bonus payout process), and not only that, but the people who did all the hard work on the bottom, had ridiculously low paychecks compared their colleagues next door sitting with e.g. the IT SAP systems, they basically just adding and changing numbers and letters in a system, no paper, no long formulas or workflows to follow, just really simple work, and they would be paid 50% more in salary. When they skipped the bonus reward system for a whole year, the middle managers would still get their bonus paycheck that as a minimum would be 240% of my monthly salary, and sometimes as high as 400% of my monthly salary, as a bonus for their "hard work".
FIRE = Financial Independence, Retire Early, a FAT FIRE is just that but more luxurious.
If you had $10k in Nvidia stock in 2016 then you'd have around $2M today.
If I would pick up the banana on the left on me and place it on my right, it would be on my right.
(Both true, and just completely useless information)
@koek4539 Not exactly. The OP's comment might be a post hoc statement, but it can at least inform the reader that maybe taking chances on investments is worth investigating, as it could make you rich. Whereas your banana statement is in fact truly meaningless.
@@03chrisvplease, don’t have children.
@@koek4539nah, yours is meaningless, OPs isn’t
@@koek4539 the fact is NO ONE thought nvidia stocks were gonna skyrocket any time soon. they were just a graphic chip manufacture in 2016 and gaming growth has been pretty stable for the last 20 years. no one foresaw that graphic chips would make the best AI processors (except nvidia) at that time , hell know one even knew that AI was gonna explode like it did. tat's wat OP was kinda saying. any one that happened to have nvidia stock sitting around , just got loaded when AI exploded .
I like naming of Nvidia cards rn. RTX 5080 16 GB, RTX 5080 12GB, RTX 5080 8GB and RTX 5080 6GB sounds cool!
Wait are they really making a 5080 6/8gb version?
@@zuriel4783 No, he's joking.
But I don't think the 5060 will be as good as the 5080.
@@zuriel4783 but who knows :D
I've heard it said, if everyone were a billionaire nobody would work.
Zimbabwe is proof of that
@@myne00 💀
LMAO which is the way that it should be. Let AI robots take people's jobs.
@@Generationalwealth94 it's not that simple
I would! I enjoy what I do that's the secret of it.
Nvidia should be broken up like AT&T was.....they can spin off the gaming, enterprise, networking, etc all off into separate companies....it would be OBJECTIVELY better for consumers
better for consumer does not mean it will be better for the company.
@@arenzricodexd4409How does it negatively affect the company? That Jensen is not the CEO of all these new ones?
@@hypermiraclepositivegirl2415 if Jensen still the CEO of all new "separate" company then what's the difference if all of them still under Nvidia banner?
Funny how the most average VPN are the ones who most sponsor
I mean i don't blame the nvidia employees if you just turned 30 and have 5 million USD in shares that you can offload and retire when you are 30 years old.. why would you not do that.
You can buy a nice house that is pretty low maintenance, and nice Tesla, and still have 4 million in the bank to live off. If you invest that wisely. you can pretty much live on ~100k per year without any debts, and have no bosses or customers to deal with..
Not having a boss or customer = zero stress and having no money troubles makes your life stress free (If you have no partner or kids then the world is your oyster to enjoy. You can jump on plane anytime and travel anywhere). Not many people get such a chance at life you will be in top 10% of the world. Id say that's already an achievement if life was a game those people clocked it already.
You're at least top 1% if you are retired by 30, passively making 100k a year, and not working.
It's everyone's dream to retire early and be done with the rat race. Jensen wants nothing but hard intense work why torture yourself when you already made it.
FIRE is the early retirement thingy. Fat fire just mean retire early and spend lavishly. Compared to barista fire which is retire, but work part time as a barista to sustain extra expenses.
Vex you forgot to add ... to the end of the title.
C'mon man, get with the meta already.
What are you talking about ...
story is jensen is driving them hard and they are working ridiculous hours
but still better than other tech company. that's why Jensen highly regarded by his worker.
@@arenzricodexd4409 Sure, that's why people leave for Intel to build GPUs. FOR INTEL.
@@wr3ckr270what's wrong with Intel?
@@arenzricodexd4409No it's actually much worse than other tech companies. The Nvidia bad working stories are pretty extreme. Working til 2am type of stories
@@shnitzilhazel9957terrible working environment
Oh it looks like they're just another normal company where higher ups do no work but want MAX profit 😂
😂or lazy employees that complain about everything. Noticing a trend in the tech sector where everyone is mistreated 24/7? Jealousy is a bitch.
same thing happen to valve, they so success in selling games than making games. dev just quit since they not making HL3 L4D3 DOTA3
I just like collecting my paycheck and doing hobbies I'm actually passionate about.
The culture at Valve also contributes to it. You decide what interests you and can select the project you wanna work at apparently. Turns out they all wanna work on steam which makes the big money apparently.
They got deadlock and dota 2 pus CSGO 2 gets update
Fuck valve and pc gamers still worship them
@@zerosam5541 cs2 is getting the tf2 treatment, realisticly only deadlock is being taken care of
Have these same new employees work in a 12+ hours a day hard labor factory job, then they will see they had it easy made working at Nvidia.
The human being is such a funny thing.
this comment is so random it made me laugh
If it weren't so greedy.
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Vex is right about this: DLSS and FSR don't make any sense for any competitive game because you will increase the latency. I go a step further: it doesn't make any sense for any game. The only reason why the more experienced and knowledgable gamers started to care about FPS is because a lower FPS used to imply a better performance, as long as the framepacing remained similar or improved. With DLSS and FSR that does not apply, that is basically like gaming on smart-TV, all that added processing to upscale the images indcreases the latency with tenths of %-points, the gaming-performance gets worse. Developers need to optimize the code again, gamers need to educated themselves and not buy a game unless it has a good performance without such gimmicks.
History has shown that when this happens, a company just loses its dead weight anyways. Usually the people that brought success and innovation do it because they actually like what they do, so paying them more won’t affect their retirement status.
What you are saying is teaching companies to starve their employees into complacency, and that works opposite to advantage. Seems that Nvidia just needs to hire people who enjoy doing the direction the company has taken
I feel like high profile tech CEOs try to fit into a narrative that they should be hard to work for because being extraordinary and shaping the world shouldn't be easy, blah blah blah. Here's a novel idea. Try being a joy to be around while staying motivated to achieve your goals. People around you might become motivated as well. Choose love.
You can google it but Jensen has very high approval ratings, the highest even.
This explains a ton about the computer hardware industry
Shit's always moved so goddamn slow. Had to be reasons
Here's my opinion on how much vram cards should have
5050 8gb
5050ti 8gb
5060 12gb
5060ti 12gb
5070 12gb
5070ti 16gb
5080 16gb
5080ti 24gb
5090 32gb
5090ti 32gb
These are perfect
I mean.. I agree. But yeah right, also.
Whatever comes up, MUST come down👿
Yep. You know some of the super wealthy will get ahead of the collapse and thousands of investor will get absolutely fked by a blind collapse. The super rich are cut throat and will work together to orchestrate maximum profit and maximum screwing of those that aren't in the elite conversation. Lots of good people will be knocked down from wealthy to middle class lol guaranteed.
Nvidia should completely quit pc gaming market at this point. I don't want my AI PC to go judgement day on me.
i do
Oke, then what GPU's are you gonna buy?
There won't be any high end spec pc's anymore, and no one would really be able to play 4k properly.
Well done, you ruined the industry!
@@koek4539 nvidia monopoly already ruined high end market, wait a couple of generations until we see some tough competition from amd I guess
@@Kcolonel_69 How is "High end GPU's for High prices" worse than "No high end GPU's at all"?
All you're literally doing is taking away peoples ability to choose.
@@koek4539I'm mostly gaming at 1080p/1440p and I'm satisfied with my aging 2060 super, I've been using GPUs since 2005 and I've never spent more than 300$ on a card, high-end gaming is a waste of money, all that expensive tech will be mainstream in a few years
If they r so overwhelming than they should cut down the price for low to midrange gpu for consumers
do that and they will be in trouble because they will be accused of using their overwhelming dominance to kill competition by selling cheap.
That would mean they have to produce more gpus creating more work for them lol
@16:00 They're the same becvause it's the same chip (underneath the extra cache) and they're clocked with the same frequency (5.2 GHz) for the benchmark run. Cinebench doesn't get a performance boost from the additional cache.
I can only guess at this point but this could mean the new 16 core X3D chip will only go to 5.2 GHz while the non X3D part can go higher than that (5.7 GHz with proper cooling and power limit set up). With those extra 500 MHz the CPU should be a bit less than 9% faster (huge grain of salt here) than the X3D one.
what the hell is that Semi-Retired people stuff.
if there's people getting rich from NVDA in the last 5 Years, it's literally the Shareholders.
CEO of Jackets
Do not forget pcie4 -> pcie5 which has twice the data rate. So 3GB is a big deal and, with the faster pcie 5, you can transfer more bytes with the same bit width.
NVIDIA Situation is Crazy
shut up zoomer
Uploading at 2:30am is devious work,
AI frame interpolation is slower than non-ai. that why nvidia users prefer to use FSR framegen over DLSS FG if it possible
Sure 🤡
It isn't slower because it is AI. DLSS FG has a little more input lag because Nvidia wanted a certain level of quality on the output image. FSR has less input delay but the quality is lower. It is all about a tradeoff. Personally, from my experience.. using dlss FG on single player games to go from 60(80) to 120 fps is a valuable tool to utilize your high refresh screen. Lag is barely felt especially on games that are slow to react like Hell blade 2 or whatever it's called. I would personally use DLSS upscaling before using fsr FG to get better input lag if that is what I was aiming for. But.. I have a 40 series so.. I have real world experience so my opinion is actually applicable 😝
The twelve-pin connector is okay if they are used below spec. With two of them on a 4090, there would be plenty of safety margin.
Finals has frame gen, but idk why they kept it alongside rtx, you want better native frames not upscaled rtx fg in a *competetive* game
This is exactly whats happening at my workplace, our manager is salary while we're hourly pay. Our manager does absolutely minimal work and gets out early every single day while us hourly folk do all the work they should have done and we get over worked and quit or lose interest in doing thw right work. The place is a hellscape now, we lose people like every 2 weeks and we're all trying to fill the gaps (obv manager isnt doing shit) and its a terrible loop of suffering
@vex FSR 3.1 is a nice longer lasting upgrade, 3.0 on games was running on FSR 1.0 when you use frame gen, also all future updates after 3.1 will just be a drag and drop DLL file (no need to rewrite game engine code) also I get 220-270 frames at 4K in game without frame generation when I turn on frame gen I get 400-500 plus so input latency is really not an issue. Any time you’re starting out with a very good base frame rate frame gen does has a near zero penalty. Frame gen has already been in the game for about a year when they added FSR 3.0
Pretty sure that AMD Card from Asrock is meant to be installed in a server which will push all that needed Air through the Fins.
They've essentially put all their stake in the Ai market, the problem is that this is entirely dependent on Ai developers and legal disruptions that are coming to make their product relevent.
Frame generation could be good for theater mode in Halo.
Suffering from success
They are regular salaried employees paid with what was agreed before accepting the jobs. Mainly CEO Jensen took a risk and paid off for the company.
About the passively-cooled 7900XTX, it probably relies on case fans to deliver positive air pressure inside the case. Note they don’t sell to consumers only B2B. When designing a complete computer, you can use large quiet fans for that.
The more you buy...
Note that you also have a higher power draw with that adapter, it is a wire, it has resistance, you lose some electrical power. It is a colossal waste to make all these cables while the user has perfectly fine 2x8 or even 4x8 (my PSU) PCIe-cables. There literally is no valid reason to replace that connection. Easier? Yeah man, it is so incredibly complicated to have to plug in 2 cable with 6+2 plugs instead of 1, that really makes a world of difference. (I assume that the sarcasm is clear)
if you are willing to pay 2000 for a gpu ,you have more money than brains , i don t even know a game that it s worth a quarter of that ... the only way to get them back down to earth is to show them we are not falling for their bs marketing, they ve only raised the prices so much because during covid ,everyone was willing to pay anything for a gpu...
GPU can do more than just gaming. most of nvidia geforce sales are no longer coming from gamer. and this group of people consider $2000 4090 still cheap than true pro vis GPU or true compute GPU from nvidia.
I dont think anyone on their right mind would be surprised if 5090 doesn't reach 32+Gb, we know they have done 48GB on the RTX A6000 back in 2020. Just Give the power to the average consumer and let them be creative run their own simulations and AI models.
There was just no way amd rx8000 would be skipping the new connector.
This situation was exactly like when samsung mocked apple for removing the p2 connector, then did the same.
Jenson having to deal with that feels like the crying into dollar bills meme.
Here's the issue with being payed with shares though this happened with my wife. Worked for a company they gave everyone shares NOW, you could only get those shares if you work there for two years to 3 depends on the company. then after those years you're now vested, for your stock. But if you get fired or leave before that time limit they set for vesting you don't get crap. So technically the share pay is to baaically incentivise you not to leave and depending where you work they could treat you like trash to leave your job.
I wish they wouldn't go ai with their newest gpu's and cpu's. Many customers hear that word and have privacy issues, especially considering what windows is planning with recall, Etc...
People are self-motivating. People are best motivated when they get to do what they love most and have the technical freedom to explore their imagination. If people get paid to do that, it's a cherry on top. It's as simple as that.
Framegen is good for games with an FPS lock. Games like dark souls and Elden ring have a shitty 60 FPS look. And it's not like "starfield 60 FPS" it feels more like 30-40 FPS.
Simply activating AFMF2 (AFMF1 caused a driver crash in that game😂😂😂) turns Elden ring into a very smooth game and even allows RT Max on a 7800xt in 1440p native.
If AMD wants to sell GPUs and gain market share, they have to sell the x800 XT GPUs for 350$-399$.
The 499 was way too much and I actually did regret buying my 7800XT for the first 9 month due to frequent driver crashes in specific games (WoW, League of legends), making them way more expensive than Nvidia if I just calculate Price/time without annoying crashes.
15:00 "It's only a 13% inprovement..."
"Only"???? 13% inprovement is HUGE. I think the problem is that everybody jas been spoiled and has had tbeir expectations ruined by Zen2 and Zen3. The 20% performance improvements of Zen2 and Zen3 are ABERRATIONS....theyre not normal or typical, but now, every new Zen generation is expected to achieve 25% generational uplifts and it simply wont happen.
Obtaining huge inprovements like that are getting extremely difficult as nodes get smaller and everything gets more conplex. We shouldnt expect 20% gains anymore.
Im not trying to take these companies "off the hook", but i think its crazy that qe can see something like a 13% increase and think its mediocre at best
I agree. Ppl like to say zen5 is a failure but it gets huge uplifts in server applications and the vcache variants will be(should be) clocked similarly to the nonvcache versions so I can see an easy 10+% uplift for 9800x3d over 7800x3d in gaming and since the clock speed is much higher.. production workloads across those chips will be MUCH higher Gen on Gen. Like +20% x3d to x3d in production. Zen 5 vanilla is not a gaming cpu.
NGreedia suffering from Success
I bought 8k worth of NVIDIA stock in 2001 :D Still holding
Dang
I hate you. I was a broke highschool kid 😭 naw that is awesome though. 🤑
Glad their finally Experimenting with the 12v Connect on AMD...finally have a reason for owning a 3.1 Power Supply because I want the single connector since again all the issues come from a 90 class card doubt the 5090 will be any different and while others don't want it I do for AMD. i'd have a total of 3 Cords instead of 4 or 5, 12v for the GPU, 24pin for the mobo and 1 8pin for the CPU
The employees are leaving so they can vest their options.
Evidently AMD has the same problem because judging by their ideology to never fail to fail to capitalize on anything they're also sitting on stocks. Maybe it was better when engineers were relatively poor compared to top management?
13:37 - these are put into server racks with massively high speed fans blowing air through the CPU/GPU heatsinks - think of it as that the fans are attached to the chassis and not the heatsinks themselves. Noise isn't a concern in a server room.
One of my employees graduated college last year, and Nvdia hired her immediately... She could not even remember to bring her boots to work at least once a week (not intentionally) ha ha ha .. Jokes on them education does not always mean a good employee..
Did you say a passively cooled XTX? Is it cheap? Maybe it would be worth it if youre doing a custom loop if the price is right lol. That's just insane to think about
I guess they will just lay off ppl at some point. Probably no one will complain because if you are a Millionaire you can just retire.
Psychopaths always end up in leadership. They are the first to seem like they deserve to be there, because they take credit for things they didn't do, and are quick to throw others under the bus to make themselves look better. They also seem like leaders, because they don't hesitate to tell others to work harder. I don't see a solution, it is what it is.
Eating good? With his lvl of greed I imagine he still eats 1 bowl of rice per day. With hands only. Got to save every penny there is.
wow
8 views in a minute, bro really fell off
You always say that, what the hell bro?!? 🤥
That’s what happens to amd fan boys
Wow next gen is faster then last gen. Mind blown.
So with GDDR7 with 3 GB Chips we could get the 5060 with 9GB?
Sure sounds like an NVIDIA plan.
Jason Wong, Suffering from Success
RTX 5060 with 12GB VRAM, 120 W consumption and the power of a 4070 for 369 smackers. That would be great.
60 should be on par with last gen 80 series just lke it used to be. You guys are lowering your standards for still too much money.
@@roklaca3138 Oh come on. You know yourself that even my wish isn't really realistic. And Nvidia would do a shit to make a 1000 dollar card available for 370 bucks a few months later. A 5060 with the power of a 4080? Fuck, then it would only be 20% slower than the 4090. You probably don't believe that yourself.
@@RudiRatte-v1p well my 3060ti is on par with 2080, why not the 5060 on par with 4080? Obviously nvidia did that already
@@RudiRatte-v1p and yeah, wishful thinking from my side to, shame on nvidia being utter pricks.
No it would not too expensive
There is no such peoblem with footballers and musicians. Weird. It is like if slaves are always ruining away once they have a chance
So nvidia has at least mostly looked after its staff and those staff have produced great results for them so now they might need to look after staff less well because clearly doing something different to what has been proven to work is the only option.
I know thats not the exact point of the video but it does seem to be the probable outcome, Nvidia certainly wouldn't be the first to do something like that and I suspect with the typical results of getting less out of the next batch of people who end up in these roles.
soon money will be worhless
frame generation is coping mechanism for when windows 11 is hogging your CPU and you don't know how to debloat it properly
i really wish i could go back to 2018 or 2017 even and buy a bunch of nvidia stock...
I’ll stick with the old gpu connector. Old reliable/old faithful. Pass on the 12v one. It’s just new junk like everything else is made now a days.
I disagree. If you want your stock price to stay where it is, you have to run your hamster wheel as fast as you can. And if you want them to grow (and hence your personal wealth with it) you have to run even faster.
My 4070 super has that same connector, and mine hasn't melted yet.
I haven't heard of anyone who has had this problem outside of a 4090 actually, I think it is a 4090 issue only.
Lets be honest. The only way to correct this is for amd to step up and people should buy amd. And im mainly an Nvidia user. But im tired of these prices when i know its all artificially inflated because demand and "AI"
even AMD having the difficulty to play that value game since labour and material cost are more expensive than it was before.
It is probably not hard to get hired on by Nvidia because their turnaround is probably very high. Between weeding out the initial incompetent. Those that go on may be treated with most of the work, pushed from those situated in the company with no care for those starting out. Those not wealthy enough to not care if they loose their job.
ah yes, my perfect saturday afternoon meal video
Frame Gen has been in COD for over a year
Wait let's change the name and the price
The Roman Empire fell and Nvidia Empire will fall.
The employees have been over worked so long, working a normal amount seems lazy
If Nvidia needs people they can hire all the CS graduates who can't get a job since 2023
So they are ethically compromised because employees are working for people with a lack of integrity and pride. They are proud of their money, but not of their work. Hate to break it to ya, but this the standard in manufacturing. I've had 1 boss in 12 years that I respected. Every other boss has been a person that wants to bring their zombie-like clock in and dissociate for 8hours work ethic to the management table and it's bullshit
They have the money to outspend anyone and hire most the entire top tier of next generation of chip designers and other roles 😂 they will be fine
nvidia having a dj khaled moment 21:46
I have planned for AMD next time.
Been calling this bullshit AI bubble for a while now. I did just read a comment somewhere that equates Nvidia to 'selling shovels during a goldrush', and I've not yet heard a more apt comparison or analogy.
This shit will burst. I give it three years, tops. Better adjust your investments accordingly.
thing is AI has been going on for a decade now. nvidia has been pushing for AI/ML since maxwell era. if AI/ML really really just some temporary bubble it will burst long time ago.
Will he have to exchange workers (brains) for AI? For me it is a golden opportunity for AMD to hire....
Why are we still seeing shadow of the tomb raider in benchmarks. The game is 6 years old
Cuz, cuz.
Because it's cpu demanding
I guess those employees are motivated to train other to replace them and continue to increase the company value so they dont have to work anymore
Please don't title your videos like cringe zoomer drama channels
Idunno21 idunno21 idunno21 how cringe
Please don’t make overly clickbait titles, clickbait-y titles and thumbnails are needed to succeed on UA-cam that’s not a problem. But please don’t name every video ”this is the end…” or ”this ____ situation is….”
It's funny
Pegasus moment😂
Lol how is the title of that video clickbait
@@NoelleSmashit’s stupid and speaks to your lack of intelligence.
@@maurice963because it’s full of ambiguity. Is your brain working?
I was forced to upgrade recently from my GTX 1060 6GB to a RTX 4060 TI 8GB and i feel ripped off so much even through i bought it at a big discount the low VRAM is a massive problem and i feel like this card won't last much like my 1060. Nvidia is really pissing me off im considering switching to AMD or even Intel GPUs.
FAT FIRE-able is bloated salaries that you would consider letting go to cut cost.