Test Frame Tuesday - Outgoing Trunk Test

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  • Опубліковано 18 лис 2024

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  • @denisesmith8051
    @denisesmith8051 2 роки тому +32

    One of my favorite things about this channel is Sarah's little interpretive dances.

  • @BradleyDWoods-pz8rv
    @BradleyDWoods-pz8rv 11 місяців тому +1

    I was (lightly) into phreaking in the 80/90's. I'm old. I think you'd be surprised by how much clarity you've brought to the blind hacking my friends and I used to do. Apple, inc. started with the Blue Box. You are laying bare the origins of desktop computing. Much respect...

  • @bryans8895
    @bryans8895 2 роки тому +12

    Sarah, you absolutely nail these videos. Your passion is evident and you have a way to make these very complex pieces of equipment seem almost approachable.
    I hope one day I can make my way to Washington if only to see your museum.

  • @outthereassociates7155
    @outthereassociates7155 2 роки тому +12

    I'm so pleased, and thankful that you continue to share your awesome knowledge in a manner that's easy to understand. Thanks to the whole staff.

  • @five-toedslothbear4051
    @five-toedslothbear4051 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the walk-through! No worries on simpler videos… I will watch them all!

  • @tangoxraysierra
    @tangoxraysierra Рік тому

    I appreciate and respect the high quality of information you all provide from this channel. I wanted to understand analog telephony as a career IT person some months ago and have been very happy with the learning, especially from my fellow lgbt siblings. Thank you.

  • @alcroc
    @alcroc 2 роки тому +11

    Always great to see things from an American angle. Would have loved to see the relay sets operating when you tested the outgoing trunk. At 8 minutes into the video you pulled a plug from the test socket using the cord. In the UK you would have been reprimanded for this sloppy behaviour. Keep up the good work and behave with your trunks! Mark, Manchester UK.

    • @ConnectionsMuseum
      @ConnectionsMuseum  2 роки тому +19

      Thanks :) Here, you *must* pull the plug by the cord, and the cords are woven in double and triple layers-made to be yanked on. The screw that attaches the red plastic sleeve to the plug is hot, and if you pull it while the voltmeter is on and you’re touching ground (earth) you’ll get a shock. When I do reach for the red sleeve on the plug, I try to only use the back part of it, to avoid that screw.
      Here’s a video of the relays operating :)
      twitter.com/museumofcomm/status/1551969229741559808

    • @alcroc
      @alcroc 2 роки тому +1

      @@ConnectionsMuseum Wow! We would never allow that to happen. Anyway still great to see your "Central Office" in the UK known as "Telephone Exchange" keep up the great work, Mark.

    • @jessiepooch
      @jessiepooch Рік тому

      The sleeve screws were "live" on GPO sleeves in 1980 in my Strowger in Manchester East and Ardwick.

  • @pedxing
    @pedxing 2 роки тому +3

    pretty sure I took the wrong bus to get here. or maybe I fell asleep and just ended up in the part of town I've never seen before. ;) I have so so many questions!

  • @johnstonlarry
    @johnstonlarry 2 роки тому +3

    I'm an old phone guy and have worked on this equipment.

  • @maxpeck4154
    @maxpeck4154 Рік тому

    My dad was a Michigan Bell lineman from 1965-1996. I grew up around this stuff but was never interested in it until the last few years. Excellent videos!

  • @easkay
    @easkay 2 роки тому +5

    These are always fascinating!! Thanks for the detailed walkthrough :)

  • @t13fox67
    @t13fox67 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent video. We had a SxS Cama system that had a test frame that was somewhat similar at southwestern bell in Eldon Missouri, I was a switchman there who worked both Cama and toll circuits for the lake area there and it was fantastic work. This really brings back memories. Would you do a video on revertive pulsing in relation to panel switch etc?

  • @ElectricEvan
    @ElectricEvan Рік тому

    I love the sound the panel makes.

  • @pnewman1112
    @pnewman1112 2 роки тому +3

    Regarding "barging" into the calls, when the police/etc wanted to listen in on a call, is this the frame that would occur on? or would it be closer to the subscriber?

  • @joeblow8593
    @joeblow8593 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks Sarah

  • @jt12blk
    @jt12blk 2 роки тому +2

    “Oh, and here’s how to do phone phreaking from inside the CO. Except don’t do that. But you could if you want to.”

  • @dhille7
    @dhille7 2 роки тому +5

    Weird question, Sarah. And pardon me if you have addressed this in another video I haven't seen. When I was a kid, my dad worked at a few different COs. They had a very distinct and cool scent to them. I always loved to visit and hang around. His clothes would even smell like the CO when he got home. Does your CO have that scent? Thanks for the videos!!!

    • @ConnectionsMuseum
      @ConnectionsMuseum  2 роки тому +3

      It sure does. Central offices all have the same unique smell :)

  • @kopspijker3515
    @kopspijker3515 2 роки тому +2

    I only have a boring and very small ip PBX at work. My test line is actualy a virtual extension set to put the caller on hold forever. I know the PBX and phone work if i hear the on hold music.

  • @itleyland2030
    @itleyland2030 2 роки тому +3

    One question I have is my perception is the 1XB is a relay machine, but how does it process/translate MF into work?

    • @ConnectionsMuseum
      @ConnectionsMuseum  2 роки тому +4

      There are circuits called MF Receivers (MFRs) that are basically a series of band-pass filters that only allow certain audio frequencies to pass through. The tones are detected by tubes after they pass through the filters. When a tube detects a tone, it conducts, and allows current through to operate relays that correspond to the detected tones.
      A special gating circuit locks out the detectors until it hears the KP tone. This prevents talk-off and false registrations from spurious tones that may appear on the line. You can see these circuits in our video about MF signaling.

  • @kenunix1863
    @kenunix1863 2 роки тому +5

    Panel had the 'IART' Incoming Automatic Routine Test frame. It would test outgoing trunks from an office during the night(lite traffic). Panel also had the OGT OutGoing Trunk test frame. Things became more interesting with the advent of MF Multi-Frequency...

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics 2 роки тому +2

    Long time no see, keep up the great work

  • @tseckwr3783
    @tseckwr3783 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for another great video.

  • @RideAcrossTheRiver
    @RideAcrossTheRiver Місяць тому

    Why did I suddenly get 'All Trunks Busy' tone one night at 12:00 AM? Only intermittent dial tone since.

  • @Atomshamradio
    @Atomshamradio 2 роки тому

    Sarah you got this wow thats alot of CONTROLS and such😯🤯

  • @yvr2002rtw
    @yvr2002rtw 2 роки тому +2

    Is it possible to use a trunk circuit between two different central offices to "extend" a subscriber line from one office to another? For example, a rural subscriber wants a line with a dial tone and phone number from a nearby city.

    • @ConnectionsMuseum
      @ConnectionsMuseum  2 роки тому +2

      Yep, it’s called Foreign Exchange service, and it was offered by many telcos.

  • @succuvamp_anna
    @succuvamp_anna 2 роки тому +1

    Kawaii and and I informative, I remember when I was very little I would "help" mom at her cleaning job and the guys would show me and let me help them with the phone system at Bell Atlantic here in WV when she would clean the local exchange buildings, it's what got me into networking and ultimately IT.

  • @mackfisher4487
    @mackfisher4487 2 роки тому +3

    Interesting I had a surplus WE "wire chiefs test set" Beautiful thing in a wood cabinet but never knew how to use it only knew that it was used for testing subscriber and trunk lines. As you mentioned the voltmeter function of your OGTT was my test set a similar simplified form?

    • @ConnectionsMuseum
      @ConnectionsMuseum  2 роки тому +3

      Almost certainly similar. Testing of conductors was pretty standardized. If a switch man suspected trouble with the wire conductors themselves, he would refer it out to a wire chief who used their test desk (or set) to investigate further.

  • @timcat1004
    @timcat1004 2 роки тому +1

    Subbed. Marc sent me.

  • @Atomshamradio
    @Atomshamradio 2 роки тому

    Very cool i stumbled on this channel by accident but i love it

  • @tstahlfsu
    @tstahlfsu 2 роки тому +1

    Keep em coming!

  • @bicopter
    @bicopter 2 роки тому

    Hello, I have a qustion...
    Why telepony system using the circuit by 600 ohm? Do you have any video of transformer history about 600 or 900 ohm??

  • @Stache987
    @Stache987 2 роки тому +1

    Did I miss tonight's video Sarah?

  • @jeffdobkin9478
    @jeffdobkin9478 2 роки тому

    The BSP refers to something called "soak current" at the end of the test (where the tick tock sound is). What is soak current and how does this apply to the test?

    • @ConnectionsMuseum
      @ConnectionsMuseum  2 роки тому +6

      The reasons for this are a little complex. Soak current is defined as the amount of current that fully "saturates" the relay windings. It is designed to test that a relay will release within a prescribed period of time after the windings have had a chance to fully energize and the magnetic structure of the relay is fully engaged. This is in contrast to "operate" current, which is merely the amount of current that causes the armature to move into the operated position. Operate current is less than soak current.
      The other reason is that the test line that we're using here must "synchronize" with automatic trunk test frames (not discussed in this video). These are test frames that progress through each trunk, call the test line, and monitor the results of each test before advancing to the next trunk. In order for this to work, the test line and test frame must be in sync, and they rely on specific signals to do that. One of those signals is the application of "soak" current at the correct time.

  • @jd3497
    @jd3497 2 роки тому +3

    What's inside a busy plug? What's inside a deny plug?

    • @ConnectionsMuseum
      @ConnectionsMuseum  2 роки тому +5

      It’s technically known as a 184 plug but nobody calls it that. Ring is strapped to sleeve, so any ground on the ring conductor of the jack will be routed thru the plug back to the sleeve conductor of the jack, which marks the trunk as busy.
      www.telecomarchive.com/cc/pdf/plugs/plugs,%20184%20185%20186,%201,%201979-04-30.pdf

    • @teknikal_domain
      @teknikal_domain Рік тому

      @@ConnectionsMuseum So basically it's just a switch that's normally open. Plugging one into a jack creates continuity between the two leads. The equipment isn't looking for anything special, it's just looking to see that a potential (or, ground, lack thereof) applied on one wire doesn't return on another.
      That makes me wonder, when a trunk is *actually* busy, I assume something similar happens, just within the switching machinery itself? I believe from one of your videos about the panel switch you mentioned that the equipment tests the sleeve lead when trunk-hunting for ground. So when a trunk is in use by a call, one of the frames that's participating in the call is grounding the sleeve lead? (I'm assuming that leaves T and R for, lack of a better term, "incoming" and "outgoing", one lead for the calling party to talk on, one lead for the called party to talk on)

    • @ConnectionsMuseum
      @ConnectionsMuseum  Рік тому +1

      @@teknikal_domain Yep. Ground on sleeve indicates "busy". Doesn't matter how it gets there. Either the machine puts it there to mark a path as busy, or a human puts it there by inserting a plug and closing a ground from the ring of the jack to the sleeve of the jack via the shorted plug.
      That same sleeve lead exits the jack and is carried to the trunk appearance on the crossbar network. If the marker tests that point on the network, it will see ground there, and will know that it can't try to make a service connection through that trunk.

    • @teknikal_domain
      @teknikal_domain Рік тому

      @@ConnectionsMuseum I have this weird fascination with communications protocols and how machines exchange information. It's honestly baffling the amount of things that the telephone network did with "ground," "battery," and "no continuity," and "polarity reversal" as the main communication choices.
      I also just realized the XB markers must have some brain-melting number of wires, if they have to be able to test any potential crosspoint on the switching fabric. I imagine they're not fun machines to troubleshoot if it's more than just a bad relay.