The FireTower by Arnaud
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- FireTower by Arnaud (Arnaud Desseyn - Belgium)
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$79.99US
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Specifications:
Height 8.15” / 20.7cm
Width at base 3.9” / 10cm
Width at top 2.12” / 5.4cm
Width with feed ramp 6.3” / 16cm
Width of pot stands 6.7” / 17cm
Weight - all in stove 1lb 1.9oz / 508g
Weight - stove only 15.7oz / 444g
Weight - ash pan 2.8oz / 79g
Weight - feed ramp 4.9oz / 140g
Case 2.2 oz / 64g
Thank you for this Video...very helpful...
It looks very sturdy!?!
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the review Mark! I have been looking at rocket stoves but didn't buy any cause they are bulky or heavy. This one by Arnaud really meets my expectation in terms of packability and weight. Ordered one on the very day this video debut and received in a week. Will be using it soon 😍
Hope you enjoy using it. Thanks for commenting
500g for a flat packing rocket stove, that's excellent. Price is fair. Setup is simple and quick.
They could make it out of titanium for a backpacking version as you said, which I agree would be a good choice.
Ashpan could be replaced with a much thinner lighter piece of steel for a good weight reduction.
The tappered chimney helps with airflow due to Bernoulli's principle.
Engineering put to good use :)
I agree it is well thought out. Thanks for commenting
Arnaud sounds like a great guy and somewhat of a genius... this is a great design and I definitely am going to watch for further development on this!
I agree. Man as a gift. Thanks for commenting
Really exciting to get introduced to new products I haven't seen yet. I have the lixada rocket stove and I like it, but it's slightly bulky even though it is light. I have been looking at the Vire stove and I really like the flat packing aspect, but it's so heavy at 1.3 kg and the smaller version I'm told doesn't work as well. The FireTower of course also flat packs and at 500 grams it saves you 800 grams in your backpack. Thank you for showcasing this product, awesome!
I enjoy testing out these new stoves. Thanks for commenting
Love This Design, Great Test, Thanks Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Thanks, you too Terry
As always another great review! Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for commenting my friend
Great video, thanks Mark.
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Very impressive! Thanks very much for sharing.
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Great overview of this stove - neat design
Thanks for watching!
Some impressive engineering on that stove. Do you feel that the feed "ramp" offers an advantage over just a plain open square that many other stove designs use? If the ramp facilitated automatic gravity induced self feeding for fuel, I could see a tremendous advantage. However it seems as though it still requires manual fuel feed maintenance. In my mind, I'm comparing it to the Firebox stove that has two small feed ports located 90 degrees from each other. The firebox fuel feed system works very well for me personally.
Hi Lonnie. Good to hear from you. The best comparison I can give is with a Chinese rocket stove I reviewed a while ago. It does not have a air feed under the fuel ramp. Instead it relies on air being drawn in from around the base. It has pretty much the same performance as this stove does. A more greatly angled feed ramp may make better use of gravity but I feel it would compete with the primary chimney for which way the flame would rise. I have seen much larger rocket stoves that are able to achieve gravity feed but I expect it would be hard to do in a small stove. The Firebox feed system stands as a classic bit of engineering. Simple and effective. I have another stove from Arnaud that I will be reviewing that makes better use of the duel air-wood feed ramp. Hope to see a new video from you and Connie soon
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks Mark for the feedback. I am impressed with the design of this stove that you showed. It is clearly well thought out, designed and constructed. I'm just sort of thinking out loud here trying to think through the burn and real world use dynamics. I'm not really trying to run down the product in any way. I hope you don't mind my way of critically thinking out loud.
Thanks Mark, nice review, I like this stove a lot!
You bet. Thanks for commenting
Thanks. I just bought one for my travels.
Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for commenting
I love these little rocket stoves, and agree a titanium model would be the answer to backpackers. Thanks Mark for a thorough review!
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
That's a nice looking stove.....I always enjoy your pyro videos, thank you!
Glad you like them! Thanks for commenting
Good review Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Thanks, you too!
Great video and stove. Yes to a titanium model. I’ll hold out for that.
I would love to try that out. Thanks for commenting
That is a well designed stove for sure. So many aspects of it that I like, and with a couple of tweeks you suggested, even better. If the slot the feed tray pins slide into were "L" shaped instead of just straight in, that tray would be far less able to slip out of place, and add a bend to ends of the tray wire nubs so they won't slip inside the feed tube...
Agreed. The designer is ready the comments and is looking at making some changes. Thanks for commenting
Always look forward to a new video from you. 👌
I appreciate that! Thanks for commenting
You can never have too many stoves!
Right? Looking forward to your next vid. Thanks for commenting
Rocket stoves take advantage of the thermodynamic law that heat rises and draws in cooler air from beneath. The increasing heat accelerates the volume of air drawn in from underneath, increasing the heat even more through efficient carburation (mixing of oxygen with combustible gases). This is what also makes the Kelly Kettle a fantastic water boiler, especially because the flame is completely shielded by the double walled design which forms the water jacket. Unfortunately, the Kelly is bulky and somewhat heavy for my habit of taking very long walks in the mountains.
I might buy the titanium Arnaud stove when it becomes available.
Thanks, Mark!
Good explanation. Thanks for commenting
I like it. It looked like you could have fried some eggs and bacon with the heat from the initial burn, without having to add wood into the side port. ✌️🇺🇸🇨🇦✌️
Possibly. Pretty intense heat so you would have to watch and make sure you didn't burn things. Thanks for commenting
G'day Mark, with the tall tapered walls, or frustum, (I had to google that, ...... a long while since high school, lol), anyway, its pretty much like a miniature fireplace/chimney, so I'm not surprised it draws so well.
Personally I'd be wanting to light it with a ferro rod with the chute off, which means you'd have to be quick installing the chute, before the main body heats up too much, since it appears to be a two handed operation, i.e you need to hold onto the main body while you do so.
Other than those tweaks you mentioned, I'm think'n some clearance between the ash tray and the ground wouldn't hurt, say => 15 mm.
Ultimately, between the draw, the feed in feature, fold down and storage, a lot to like. Cheers Duke.
Frustum. You just added a new word to my repertoire. Arnaud will be reading your suggestions as well. Thanks for commenting Duke
Great review. I've never been a fan of rocket stoves, no particular reason, they just never appealed to me. This demo has changed my mind completely. I'm very impressed. Thanks for posting.
Worth looking at. Thanks for commenting
Ya. Me to.
Yay, a new wood stove review from Mark!
How do you find this one compared to the Vire?
I think I prefer this one for backpacking because of its smaller size and weight. The full size VIRE is the better of those two stoves but is quite heavy. Thanks for commenting
I like it 🎉
So do I. Thanks for commenting
It's a bummer that Arnaud wasn't able to raise enough support through his Kickstarter to get the titanium version funded as he'd hoped to. It's still a great design, and I am glad that I was able to support his efforts, though.
You ought to try out the Firekorf he designed. It's also not a backpacking option, but it's a great firepit. It lights easily and burns nice and hot, so it's a bit of a challenge to cook with, but it's great for a contained campfire, at least until the fire bans start again, which seems like it will be very soon now.
Maybe with a bit more exposure, people will see the advantages of his design. I will look into the Firekorf. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft yeah, I think he's just not well known enough yet.
This is a VERY interesting stove Mark. I wish the stove had an option for a fire grate with small round holes so you could use wood pellets. It seems that the air flow this stove has would lend to a great burn with pellets. Maybe a diy modification with a separate grate on top? Thank you for sharing. God Bless.
It would be worth seeing if I can make the stove work with pellets. If I do, I will post another video. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I would definitely look forward to it!
To Fireside Coffee: Tinker says "Make one". Few tools are required for working thin gauge metals, even titanium. Firebox stoves (USA) makes a titanium cooking grate which may be reworked for many different applications.
I dig it. It's the right size for a portable tower/rocket stove. Some ti "rocket stoves" are just too small and a pain to get running. I may try to pick up the 2nd generation if the small tweaks are sorted out. I could see this being quite useful for cooking for 2-4 people, and even car camping it would be a nice tabletop stove.
All good points. Thanks for commenting
NOW you show me a lighter stove. I bought a thicker version of a tower stove for the capacity to handle heavier pots. I kinda like that version better. The marsh kettle survivalist stove. Because of the Coronavirus didn’t know if society would shut down for a second. Need a way to boil large pots of water. It’s a sectional stove. And ways about the same as the red camp stoves collapsing. But for just hiking (when allowed). Would like use that version when there’s no burn order in play. Gotta love ya man. Always a great job. SEMPER FI
Sorry about that😅 Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I meant to say I like your version better. Can’t find it on Amazon though. Will I have to buy it directly from the website?
@@pakleader4 Yes, as far as I know you will need to buy directly from Arnaud. Hope this helps
Morning Mark! I have to say, I almost didn’t watch cuz I don’t like rocket stoves. Too much heat in too small an area means they’re pretty much only good for boiling, and they’re too tall for the width for stability, plus they’re mostly too big and bulky, but I kinda like this one. I really do. I can see this as a great thing to pack along to boil up some tea quickly on a day hike, or for a night or two.
It just lacks the ability to double as an alcohol stove on rainy days, but a wire stand and a piece of aluminum tray wind screen would fit in the case.
And for about $100 Canadian. I may actually get one. Except I’m buying a new shotgun today, so it’ll have to wait a little.
Thanks Mark! And no, I still prefer my firebox. 😂😂
OOOH... been a long time since I looked firearms. What are you buying?
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Remington Versa Max. It’s not the best semi auto out there, but it’s not the most expensive either, and the few complaints are actually easily fixed. Plus it’s supposed to be easy recoil and I’ll be doing some goose hunting this coming fall. I don’t have a proper waterfowl gun yet, which is odd, since I have so many others (I sport shoot quite a lot, small game hunting, and am planning bigger game soon) so today I found a good priced second hand one, with the waterfowl coating.
@@jimf1964 Nice!
just found and subscribed to you. I was looking for info on making my own wood gas camp stove, and found your videos entertaining and useful. I tried my hand at it a few years back, and was disappointed, but I think the idea has promise. I used a stainless steel double walled tall coffee mug. I thought, being tall, it would have good draft. The 2 walls being close together would make for good heat transfer. I see now that my air holes were too small and few, and the pot rest was too close and hampered the flame. It's a little unstable, but there are some easy solutions. Every thrift store has 3 or 4 of these mugs, missing their lids, for a couple bucks.I'd love to see how you'd do with with this, having your extensive experience, before I try it again. Thanks for the channel.
I have considered playing with these mugs as well. I may give it a try. Thanks for commenting
Nice 👍
Thanks ✌
Good review, nice stove. I just wish I didn't live in a place under forest fire restrictions for most of the year.
I understand. We can not have open fires most of the summer so I have to get out as much as I can during the winter. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Our fire season (SW China) is winter and spring. Summer and autumn are rainy season.
Interesting! 'Kombuis' is the Afrikaans word for 'kitchen'.
This is the most convincing small rocket stove that I have seen. It also looks quite controlable?
Interesting. Arnaud is sending me one to test. Thanks for commenting
I bet if the internal fire grate was embossed to give it more Ridgely would help?
Overall, I really like this concept! Thanks for the video
Interesting suggestion. Arnaud will be watching so he may give it some thought. Thanks for commenting
Seems to be a better stove than Kombuis 1.0
I just reviewed the Kombuis 2 but don't have the Kombuis 1 to compare. I like this better only because is folds flat and it lighter in weight. Both work well. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I'd like to know how long it can burn without tending to?
I know the firebox size and feeding port both contribute to how much it can hold. And the heat and fuel amount can both affect how fast it is running. I just want some estimation.
@@yookoala Also hard to estimate. If I load the burn chamber vertically I can get maybe 6 or 8 finger size stick in it that are no more than 5" in length. Loaded like that, all the woods becomes engaged in flame. If I use the feed ramp only, I can get maybe 4 or 5 finger size sticks in the chamber at once but they can be any length at all. Using the stove in this fashion, only the last 2 or 3 inches is burning. Hope this helps
Kombui basically means a place to cook, or there abouts...I think he's using the term to also emphasize the combination of a wood gas/rocket stove...
Sounds about right. I hope to test it out someday. Thanks for commenting
Kombuis is a ships kitchen. Buis means pipe. So I guess it's a wordplay.
Thanks, will do!
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you very mutch... have a nice Weekend.... see you….
Great review! Looks like an awesome rocket stove! Don't pronounce the d, "Arno" like "Arnie" (as in the governator) but "Arno". I "may" be wrong but "aud" usually = "oh"
aud = "oh" IN FRENCH. I forgot to add that bit!
You would think living in Canada I would know how to speak French. Thanks for commenting
Pretty sure "aud" is a purely French invention, but English is the bastard child of French and everything that went before!
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I didn't mean to be "That Guy" but sometimes my brain won't let me walk on by. The Kicker is an "ACTUAL" French speaker is likely to turn up and tell me to take my suggestion and.....
Nice video. Would like to see a comparison of all your rocket stoves.
YES!!! 👍👍👍
Yes, I can do that at some point. Thanks for commenting
Looks like a great stove. An excellent reviewing job as usual too. If I was tweaking this to fix the feed ramp problem, I would try extending the slot where the pins go, not continuing straight toward the stove, but taking a 90° bend. This would make it so when you put the ramp in place, the pins on either side would go in as they currently do, but then drop down into the newly designed slots. Theoretically this would sort of lock the pins in and prevent the ramp from being pulled outward and falling out of place. I cannot tell if the width of the ramp within the stove is enough to prevent the side to side motion which would cause a pin to drop out of place allowing the ramp to fall out as well, but this would also need addressing. (Perhaps I missed this in the video?). Either make a wider ramp, or as you said extend the pins.
What do think? Take care.
I think you have something there. A combination of the approaches suggested should work. Arnaud is reading the comments so I am sure he will consider your ideas. Thanks for commenting
In hopes this will be helpful for a redesign, how about this?: On the left side have a hole in the stove wall instead of a slot for the left ramp pin, and on the right a slot as I described earlier. One would start placing the feed ramp in at an angle, slip the left pin into the hole, (which should be large enough for ease of placement), then guide the right pin in and down into the right side slot. The hole on the left and the final area where the right pin ends up should be designed so the ramp ultimately sits level when in place. I don't think there'd be any more falling out of place!
If you compare this stove to the Lixada Tower, which one performs best? (ease of use, heat, etc) A compasion video would great 🙂
I can work on that. Thanks for commenting
Would you recommend the FireTower over the Kombuis? I‘ve seen both your reviews on them but I can‘t quite decide which one I should get. I do plan on using the Stove on hikes but the weight of the Kombuis wouldn‘t bother me too much, at least not if you say it‘s clearly better and worth the extra 20 or so Euros.
That is a tough decision. If weight and bulk are not an issue then the Kombuis would be my choice. Thanks for commenting
I have both the tower and the kombius only done a few burns in each both work well takes a while for delivery from Europe gonna experiment with some mods for pellets see if mark modifeys it first
Let me know if you make mods for using pellets. It may take me a while to get to it. Thanks for commenting
General question...
What stops the sticks from burning back up the feed pipe ?
This is definitely the most practical looking rocket stove I've seen to date...thanks !
All the best 👍
They may burn, but the inward ends, burning more quickly than the rest of the stick, naturally cause it to slide downward into the burn chamber. That, plus the inflow of air tend to keep the fire there.
as Daniel responded. Thanks for commenting
@@danielkutcher5704 Much appreciated 👍 thanks for the full explanation...
I've always wondered about it...
All the best .....
Is the arnaud kombious 2.0 rocket cylinder by Arnaud any good?
As stated in the video, I have not had the opportunity to test the Kombuis yet. Thanks for commenting
That wool shirt you are wearing looks handy. Who makes it?
Canadian Army. Found in a thrift store. Still available through surplus. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for commenting
Very interesting, Mark, thank you! Btw, that woolen jacket you are wearing is nice, what is it? Greetings from Sweden!😀
A Canadian Army wool shirt I bout at a thrift store. Still available in surplus stores. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Looks like a great piece of kit, thanks for answering!
How much soot does it leave on pots?
All wood stoves leave soot. It depends on so many factors. This one maybe less than others when it is running hot. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft i find that wood gas stoves soot the least if you waited till the gasification started before putting on your pan or put. I was wondering hope this rocket stove compared to a typical wood gas stove s far as sooting goes. My Biolight campstove sooted the least because the fan provided constant oxygen for a complete gasification
I agree, wood gas stoves soot less when at peak operating. Rocket stoves are also quite efficient and nearly smoke free when they get running. As with wood gas stoves, they can vary based on design, wood choice, etc. Overall, a good rocket stove is near equal with a wood gas stove as far as being smoke free @@CharlesLe-thephotographer
It is a version of Rocket stove 😁
yes
It does work surprisingly well. I have a cheap rocket stove I got on Amazon and it doesn't work well at all.
I have tried a number of rocket stoves and this is the best small one yet. Thanks for commenting
I also agree the fire grate holes need to be smaller with longer pins and recessed notches. I wonder How long before the next run?
I am waiting to hear what Arnaud thinks of my review. Maybe he will respond. Thanks for commenting
Much appreciation for the many reviews mark as us consumers can make an informed choice before purchase.
Good review but seems very fussy
I have tested much worse. All small stoves need attention. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the preview. Heads up, Arnaud doesn’t pronounce the D at the end.
Glad you liked it. Thanks for commenting