This is happening wayy too much in ToS2. Earlier today I was about to commit to an exe play when a Deputy shot me for not claiming as TI even though I posted first thing both days.
@@NachoPotato Yea I think it;s cause of an influx of new players who didn't play ToS1 so they don't know how the game really works yet and get kinda overwhelmed
@@darkgrundi9543 Could be true but theres also a lotta new people who can get overwhelmed cause theres so much stuff happening and they dont really know how to play yet
23:28 Day 3 in the 2nd game seemed to be bugged. When voting phase started it said 'there are no trials remaining today' but then allowed 1 vote. I wonder if the vigi getting hung by the hangman is related to the bug.
Yeah, when anyone is hanged by the hangman, that bug shows. It doesn't matter when it's a pros, since there would be no votes anyways, but vigi and deputy will make it appear after death.
wait, i just had a big brain idea, if you're Trickster and coordinate with a confirmed Vet, could you basically send anyone that tries to kill you into an alerted Vet?
Yes. The trickster is more of a reflect than a visit, so veteran won't shoot them. However, if you send an attacker into another trickster, it bypasses their trick and kills them, this is probably to prevent infinite trickster chaining (trickster 1 and 2 choose each other, attacker gets infinitely redirected)
@@tommysalami420 Then whats your proposed solution to the double trickster problem mister game designer. Edit: I’ve given my thoughts on the problem myself below.
I just played a Game as deputy and was proposed to. Wanting to confirm some roles. I knew 11 was evil and went to shoot them at 3 seconds left, and accidentally killed my lover (10). Thank god for jailor to clutch that up for us.
Town votes: 2 on 11 and 2 on 13 _Nightfalls_ Pipe: Alright that's it. *Spam Prosecute 13 on will* _Pipe dies and his will gets shown_ 11 and 13 argues against each other Stale: SHUT UUUUP *votes 13*
I'm curious, if you did have a confirmed vigi, could you get them to shoot you as trickster and redirect the attack to someone sus? Would that show vigi that their attack was redirected and prove trickster?
I had an awesome trickster game. There was me (trickster), trapper, sk, and coven. Both SK and Coven went on me and I redirected into coven, then we voted out sk.
23:53 could someone explain why Pipe was able to claim admirer with 14? I thought admirer proposals were public and everyone would see the animation when it happened?
@Bradan Roberts I think there's a balance between continuing to argue that you're town to win and instead just trying to guilt trip the opponent into innoing.
I had probably the most depressing all any coven game of ToS2 yet I was Ilusionist with a fake psy claim and forced a mayor to reveal and made a deputy shoot a trapper d2 before getting shot by a vig n2...then my medusa got hung d3, our PM tried to push the Doomsayer we found instead of making him kill for us and our Necro literally spoke once for the entire game Why did the PM dont give the Doomsayer roles? To quote my PM "dont know what doom does tbh" PLEASE DONT PLAY ALL ANY IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT ALL THE ROLES DO
Sadly. The scenario where tpow throw a win by not voting now is much worst because of the roles that hold power in day time increased. Not just mayor(always)/jailor(sometimes) anymore.
One of the reasons I’m not as much a fan of ToS2 is certain roles mainly Town Power will act once and then be killed by a Doomsayer/Ritualist/Conjurer for playing the game
I think a cool way to balance the Conjurer is to have them reveal themselves when they use their ability, making it so that they have to use their ability wisely and on priority targets rather than having them use it instantly on anyone they happen to dislike
It makes sense with the animation and all with them in public broad daylight rising into the air and summoning a meteor before casually standing back where they were... And town just acts like nothing of much happened other than someone dieing
@@ethanhinton4549 I hope they add this because of now conjurer just kinda kills the most powerful town roles without any side effect like ritualist outing themselves
Literally.. it’s like they’re trying too hard to be funny but all they’re doing is making themselves sound stupid I, personally, would target them for it It begins to make the video unwatchable ngl
Personally I always avoid d1 talkers, assuming any of them could be vet baiting. So when I'm evil baiting will save your life even if you don't alert. I'm assuming others do this too.
@@ovinedreamer1451 same a proper d1 bait is geared toward very specific kinds of people (which is how it worked on the psychic in the first game), but that’s why I always say something neutral like “gl hf” or partake in a d1 meme if other people are doing it or whatever so long as I say something, that’s all that matters
Still wished that vigi died at night and not immediately. I understand other roles thar kill during the day so they die during the day. So shouldn't a role that killed at night died at night by self inflicted wounds
Arso is passive, dousing isn't an attack, just like PB not triggering because it's an infect, which is passive. On the other hand, the direct attackers like ww and sk trigger trap. Thank you for coming to my EduTalk, come back next time when next time happens
I really want to enjoy this game but I’ve played 10 games 7 of which I’ve been exe even with curse scrolls. Can’t play anymore games as executor it isn’t fun when you don’t know how to fake claim as you haven’t played any other role
@@Classiccreationcorner also helped that the monarch and the cleric were quick on the draw if they'd been any slower, the dusa never would have made it up
Pipe: "Im Trickster I redirected to 12!" Everyone else: "Whats your role?" "Who'd you redirect to?"
This is happening wayy too much in ToS2. Earlier today I was about to commit to an exe play when a Deputy shot me for not claiming as TI even though I posted first thing both days.
@@NachoPotato Yea I think it;s cause of an influx of new players who didn't play ToS1 so they don't know how the game really works yet and get kinda overwhelmed
@@JaySliZe yeah, probably
i think 11 was trying to bait pipe. No way he is this ignorant.
@@darkgrundi9543 Could be true but theres also a lotta new people who can get overwhelmed cause theres so much stuff happening and they dont really know how to play yet
23:28 Day 3 in the 2nd game seemed to be bugged. When voting phase started it said 'there are no trials remaining today' but then allowed 1 vote.
I wonder if the vigi getting hung by the hangman is related to the bug.
Yeah, when anyone is hanged by the hangman, that bug shows. It doesn't matter when it's a pros, since there would be no votes anyways, but vigi and deputy will make it appear after death.
That last part should be made into a mini-game:
Are they Evil or Dumb?
wait, i just had a big brain idea, if you're Trickster and coordinate with a confirmed Vet, could you basically send anyone that tries to kill you into an alerted Vet?
Yes. The trickster is more of a reflect than a visit, so veteran won't shoot them.
However, if you send an attacker into another trickster, it bypasses their trick and kills them, this is probably to prevent infinite trickster chaining (trickster 1 and 2 choose each other, attacker gets infinitely redirected)
@@kemosonicfan123lbp trickster has limited tricks. If they can't redirect a trick on themselves thats the dumbest game design possible.
@@tommysalami420 Then whats your proposed solution to the double trickster problem mister game designer.
Edit: I’ve given my thoughts on the problem myself below.
This play would require a lot of luck
@@SincradTB it’s not a problem, they have finite tricks and can’t chain every night. Not to mention the handed one of them is fake is high.
I just played a Game as deputy and was proposed to. Wanting to confirm some roles. I knew 11 was evil and went to shoot them at 3 seconds left, and accidentally killed my lover (10).
Thank god for jailor to clutch that up for us.
Nice job
They have updated the player list in the norepad so it removes dead players automatically now
Town votes: 2 on 11 and 2 on 13
_Nightfalls_
Pipe: Alright that's it. *Spam Prosecute 13 on will*
_Pipe dies and his will gets shown_
11 and 13 argues against each other
Stale: SHUT UUUUP *votes 13*
I'm curious, if you did have a confirmed vigi, could you get them to shoot you as trickster and redirect the attack to someone sus? Would that show vigi that their attack was redirected and prove trickster?
Sounds right
That is one of the only ways to be a confirmed trickster, so yes.
11 was so annoying. “I assume you’re the one that tried to kill me last night”
not the vet's fault Pipe was sus 🤷♂
11:00 Poor Mimyuu got so mad they broke character and spoke in 1st person.
If arso visits a trickster, do they douse the trickster or the redirect target or both?
Claiming Admirer with coven is the best tactic to get tricky characters out quick. Works everytime.
In the notepad the thing in bottom left corner is a role recording thing so you don't have to do it manually
It's 830am! Pipetron with morning coffee, perfect combo :D
The only role that doesnt have a win screen is the jester. Maybe before the jester is lynched. An animation is played.
I had an awesome trickster game. There was me (trickster), trapper, sk, and coven.
Both SK and Coven went on me and I redirected into coven, then we voted out sk.
coven saw shroud kill coven and did NOT let it slide
Pipe your vids helped get me through my biomed finals, ty :)
19:37 didn't alert, he didn't have to bait.
I was Giles Corey (7) from the first game and I was the mayor the second game 😂😂 well played
23:53 could someone explain why Pipe was able to claim admirer with 14? I thought admirer proposals were public and everyone would see the animation when it happened?
@minersblog I see, thank you kind stranger!
14:57 Trying to pretend that you are a town when you lost to make the other person feel guilty is always so cringe.
That is literally something Pipe has done multiple times and praises others who do it too.
He likes to keep the act up as long as possible.
@Bradan Roberts I think there's a balance between continuing to argue that you're town to win and instead just trying to guilt trip the opponent into innoing.
I had probably the most depressing all any coven game of ToS2 yet
I was Ilusionist with a fake psy claim and forced a mayor to reveal and made a deputy shoot a trapper d2 before getting shot by a vig n2...then my medusa got hung d3, our PM tried to push the Doomsayer we found instead of making him kill for us and our Necro literally spoke once for the entire game
Why did the PM dont give the Doomsayer roles? To quote my PM "dont know what doom does tbh" PLEASE DONT PLAY ALL ANY IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT ALL THE ROLES DO
Purple *Deputy* in Game 1, taking out the *Shroud*
Had monarch game, knighted two crus chaining each other
Sadly. The scenario where tpow throw a win by not voting now is much worst because of the roles that hold power in day time increased. Not just mayor(always)/jailor(sometimes) anymore.
That first game was fire
amazing thumail
What happens with two tricksters redirect into each other when one is attacked
I believe trickster redirect bypasses the other tricksters redirect
The one who did not get attacked dies
The tricked person dies of confusion.
my mental image was the tricksters bounding the attacks back to each other like tennis
One of the reasons I’m not as much a fan of ToS2 is certain roles mainly Town Power will act once and then be killed by a Doomsayer/Ritualist/Conjurer for playing the game
I had my first Soul Collector game and fully smashed it as in I won. I fake claimed investigator and fooled town.
Necro seems much stronger now
I think a cool way to balance the Conjurer is to have them reveal themselves when they use their ability, making it so that they have to use their ability wisely and on priority targets rather than having them use it instantly on anyone they happen to dislike
Maybe have them reveal when Killing a town role who is also revealed (to punish mindlessly killing Deputy/TPow)
It makes sense with the animation and all with them in public broad daylight rising into the air and summoning a meteor before casually standing back where they were... And town just acts like nothing of much happened other than someone dieing
This just makes conjured only useful to get maj or end a coven maj game faster and not a way for coven to win in a game full of town powers
@@ethanhinton4549 I hope they add this because of now conjurer just kinda kills the most powerful town roles without any side effect like ritualist outing themselves
L balancing maybe make it so conjurer just can't kill them
Mimyuu speaking in third person all the time annoys me so much im shocked they dont get targeted for it
true, im surprised to see people saying they like mimyuu in the comments. it's just such an "i want to look interesting" gimmick
Literally.. it’s like they’re trying too hard to be funny but all they’re doing is making themselves sound stupid
I, personally, would target them for it
It begins to make the video unwatchable ngl
People got mad in another video cause he wasn't talking in third person, so now he's gonna keep it up. Also he finds your reactions hilarious
Mimyuu is the true TOS2 player, I've seen in em a lot of your videos and when I play
So, Monarch has a weird interaction with Werewolf, and cannot be mauled by visiting.
The cleric saved him.
Personally I love tos 2 but I don’t have a pc so I just have to watch
Thanks for showing us 🌟💗
Why would a veteran bait if they weren't alerting that night?
fool people into thinking they are
Personally I always avoid d1 talkers, assuming any of them could be vet baiting. So when I'm evil baiting will save your life even if you don't alert. I'm assuming others do this too.
@@ovinedreamer1451 same
a proper d1 bait is geared toward very specific kinds of people (which is how it worked on the psychic in the first game), but that’s why I always say something neutral like “gl hf” or partake in a d1 meme if other people are doing it or whatever
so long as I say something, that’s all that matters
Oh snap I’m the Monarch in the vid. Wow craziness, what a small world.
Watching pipe after work ☕️
Still wished that vigi died at night and not immediately. I understand other roles thar kill during the day so they die during the day. So shouldn't a role that killed at night died at night by self inflicted wounds
5:00 Why does the Trapper's trap not kill the Arso?
Arso is passive, dousing isn't an attack, just like PB not triggering because it's an infect, which is passive.
On the other hand, the direct attackers like ww and sk trigger trap.
Thank you for coming to my EduTalk, come back next time when next time happens
@@woopyboi thank you!
awesome more pipetron
I really want to enjoy this game but I’ve played 10 games 7 of which I’ve been exe even with curse scrolls. Can’t play anymore games as executor it isn’t fun when you don’t know how to fake claim as you haven’t played any other role
No way I actually ended up in a video! Game 1, I was Nerf Coroner. Didn't even realize Pipe was in the game!
I'm glad to see regulars, e.g. Mimyuu around, they funni
I always see the talking in third person referring to itself 💀 weird
@@rawrn. mimiyuu seems rather divisive in general. some find the third person speech charming while others find it annoying
Could someone please remind me, there’s no mafia in this game?
Bro can they replaced trickster with the transporter already and make it a unique
Kind of missed mafia as a third faction
Kind of
Im glad mimyuu is back
hmm mimyuu does not know how to use "I or me" 😂
Tomato would be proud
Mimyuu my beloved ❤
Mimyuu is the best side character
GG Great video as always :)
I thought you were me for a second
@@sharynkerr8378 you too are diffrent people?
@@Vilkku_taken indeed
Mimyuu always evil.
mimyuu also speaks in third person referring to himself, cringe and evil 😂
@@rawrn. not vringe, Mimyuu is cool that they have their own little quirk
Giles Corey always evil
Hey look its me Oog and Coc
lmao hey man
Always kill Mimyuu
pros ALMOST threw
28:00 wait, isn't that a 3v4? How'd the Medusa get upped?
Yes but majority is decided on the no. of people alive not the total no. of votes. That's why 3 votes were enough to up 14
@@Classiccreationcorner also helped that the monarch and the cleric were quick on the draw
if they'd been any slower, the dusa never would have made it up
mimyuu back at it again with the being generally annoying
We missed Mimyuu
Crazy
The first game has 2 Giles Corey’s btw wtf
and yet no cc
Yay Mimyuu's here!
Bonk!
Trickster should have infinite uses. Its a bit underwhelming as is
I like Mimyuu. I dig that 3rd person style.
Hi
Mimyuu always evil?
mimyuu is great i love mimyuu
🥶
I don't love the change in your content where you spoil the video in the first 10 seconds. Just my 2 cents, but thank you for the content
lmao at 10:00 so so cringe how mimyuu talks.
mimyuu is the GOAT
1 in the first game was mad annoying
That mimyuu guy who only talks in 3rd person is so damn annoying.