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‘Out of control’: Teachers strike over kids’ behaviour
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2025
- Throughout this year we’ve been reporting on the levels of violence in our schools, and now we can reveal some worrying new figures.
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But before that, several schools have faced strike action over issues including pupil behaviour. We visited a picket outside a school in Liverpool.
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I was punched in the stomach when I was pregnant as a teacher. The school got the parents in, the boy was told off. I was railroaded by management thinking I was going into a meeting (not related to the incident), the parents and the boy was sitting there and being told it was unacceptable behaviour. I wasn't allowed to say anything!! Then that was the end of it, the boy was back in school next day!!! I got no apology or any support by management they didn't even ask how I was. All I was doing was standing by the door as the students was leaving the classroom, apparently I was in his way! This was in 2002. Things are worse since then. I packed in teaching when a boy of 17 had a knife in the classroom.
You should have reported this to the police, it would have forced SLT out of their incompetent slumber.
You were treated disgracefully
Oh that's awful, hope your baby was okay
Please tell me your baby was okay and grew up to be a decent moral person
I was hit in the face by a six year old in a school today. He is severely autistic, and cannot help himself. I have complete empathy for him. However, I did not have support as the person working with him in the school. I had not worked there before today and did not know the frequent nature of his violent behaviour. The staff, knowing this, left me alone with him. I don’t think this is acceptable conduct, and is no way to treat staff.
An autistic kid assaulted an education assistant last week in my wife's school. Ripped her shirt open and had his hands around her throat. Two other staff members had to pull him off. .... they got in trouble for intervening.
Stupid not banning phones in class. It's absolutely going to cause distraction
in other countries there's been nationwide bans of them in schools. Dunno why we're so pathetic about it in the uk
Our local secondary already has and it's good
You can ban something, but what do you do when the student uses it? It's poor leadership and a lack of power for staff at schools being the problem
No phones during class!
@@amsa3245 Or for MP's in Parliament. I see them scrolling and prodding away during PMQ's and important debates. It looks slack and sets a terrible example. Obviously I know school students are not watching that, but we as adults should start at the top and practise what we preach.
Why I gave up teaching 10 years ago.
this is unacceptable & must be dealt with seriously .
Can't believe it took them this long to strike, children can do whatever they want in this country.
Parents are no better than
Both parents usually have to work full time, so when do they get time to parent?
@@Maxibo234 most are those “not my child” parents lol
*then
@@Maxibo234I hope that’s not a serious comment…
95% it is the parents
As an ex teacher I'm so glad to see this happen finally. So many teachers are in denial or insecure to admit they struggle with behaviour issues as they don't want to appear to be a poor teacher. But schools behaviour these days are absolutely horrendous
So much depends on school leadership. Many schools run on a kind of macho sink or swim approach, which leads to high %s quitting the profession within 5 years. I heard of a case in Japan 🇯🇵 where a lady teacher at elementary level killed herself rather than walk away. I’m sure she’s not the only one. 😢
It's not the schools that misbehave, it's the students.
i was thinking this. And the parents too apparently!? I deeply sympathise with the teachers plight but its taking a Im a victim in a horrible violent place" approach in this video and there is next to no focus on who did it or why it is happening. and that matters more. Its A bit like violence against women all the focus is on the damage caused to the receiver but they act like it happened by itself like it was done by some invisible mystery force. No it wasnt. Human beings caused this and they are the ones at fault and THATS where the focus should be! Or it will never get better
the way they are approaching this baffles me
my school was just as bad. UK schools REALLY need to shape up. We now take a stance against staff being abused and we should do the same in schools and start with where the problem lies
@@aclark903 Absolutely this. Too many schools still have a culture of 'sink or swim', particularly for new staff, and I have seen so many potentially great teachers walk away from the profession over the last 15 years because of this attitude.
@@vvelvettearssWell I’m not a materialist. Materialistic thinking is part of the problem in contemporary British education. God exists, and keeping Him out of the classroom is bound to fail one way or another.
When I was at school in the 90s we were scared of the teachers. It's pretty obvious that the watered down rules on what teachers can do has caused this breakdown in obedience.
Not just teachers but parents too.
I'd disagree, I was at school in the 00's and teachers couldn't "Do" anything but we were still scared of them. It's a complete lack of respect for elders that's caused it, led by social media, poor parenting and the general economic sickness of the country.
@@The600sTunnel, there was always the threat of permanent expulsion and generally, the underlying fear kids had was punishment from parents at home. Parents no longer support teachers, and permanent expulsions are increasingly difficult to implement. What this means is that there is no real consequences for students anymore. If they don't attend a detention, nothing happens to them. As a result, kids quickly figure out that if they don't wish to comply with the sanctions, it doesn't matter and nothing is done at home either.
@The600sTunnel I was in school in the naughties too. To an extent, I agree with you, but I would suggest that our fear of the teachers at the time was a legacy from when they could do more. Then subsequent generations realised they can't be touched...
But that's just my hypothesis and there are of course a multitude of other factors.
@@olivermoore7020the biggest fear was what our parents would do and the threat of being kicked out of the school. Psychology suggests being torn away from friendship groups is a massive threat in the mind of a teenager. Now with permanent expulsion being impossible kids don't care. On top of that, soft parenting makes sure the real consequences at home aren't dished out
This isn't just an issue at this school this is schools all over the UK. I'm a teacher and hope to quit soon.
@nom278 I have total respect for you - there's no way I could teach and my experience was in the private sector as well ! Dragging all pupils through the educational system is a nonsense - if people want out at 14 then let them.
@@revol148 Letting them out at 14 is a terrible idea. Do you really think they’d be ready for the world at 14? They wouldn’t even get their qualifications by then, unless you make GCSEs earlier, making them meaningless in the process.
@Thumb_ working on the assumption that school is not for everyone I reckon if people want to start apprenticeships or become boy soldiers then I reckon so - rather that than being forced into a schooling system that you have no interest in.
95% of the time it's the parents
@@stephenholmes1036 I'm not surprised - school for the most part is such a negative environment - the parents when they send their own kids to such places are reminded of this along with the sheer pointlessness of so much of the school curriculum. Interestingly enough the Chinese generally home school their kids as they are so appalled by the educational system in the UK.
Unfortunately, parents have no accountability. All the pressure is put on teachers to make up for poor parenting. Parents don’t teachtheir kids basic manners, etiquette and simply allow their kids to do what they want at home because they don’t want to spend time with their kids.
What I have been taught, it does not take two parents to raise a child, it takes an entire village to raise a child. When I lived back home, everyone knows you, you sit with the elders more and learn a great deal from them, such as manners, social skills, understanding the reality of this life, various challenges you face, you learn great discipline. @Thinkagain-d7x
@Thinkagain-d7xYou mean like tribes back in the stone age? You might be in to something.
95% of the time it's down to poor parents
My daughter is a teacher in a senior school, kids come in at 11 years old and some don’t know how to
write their own names or do their shoe laces up . Just sounds like the parents don’t help them learn
As a nation we need to get to the root cause of the behaviour…and in my opinion we have parents who don’t chastise their children, police who are soft on petty crime, a lack of respect for those in authority and no consequences for people’s actions….we have changed as a nation and as a result we have ruder children
Yeah its the result of deluded namby pamby left wing policies pushed by people with post-modern views where they are no criminals only people with psycholgical problems and trauma that need to be excused for awful behaviour. Lack of accountability andn soft touch ineffective policies.
you're damn right sir. If they never learn discipline and boundaries at home then they won't care about it in school either. probably neglect is the issue
In a society where it is obvious to anybody with half a wit that if you rich you get away with it and if you are poor you don’t, what example does that set to our young people?
@@jamesandrade1668 Which people, and what are they getting away with?
@@jamesandrade1668 What is it exactly poor people don't get away with? Even if what you write is true, you can't right a wrong with another wrong and it's exactly this thinking that leads to antisocial behaviour we see every day and this thinking of yours accepts it as natural. Great.
We had similar in my high school back in the 90s. It was horrific. The teachers couldn't teach.
@Planetimo I went to private school in the late 1980's - the teachers could barely teach either and the disruption was appalling.
Parents
Zero tolerance. Any physical abuse and you're out. I was in a class where a student had missed a teacher with a compass, the student wasn't allowed back. If someone feels their life is at harm then that's it.
Students will cotton on to the zero tolerance policy and get themselves kicked out on purpose.
Where are the parents? Teachers are not parents for these kids.
It was horrendous when I left the UK back in 2000 must be impossible now
The determination of the Conservative Government to put virtually all students into mainstream schools means that virtually all state schools have to deal with those violent students with behaviour problems. In the past these pupils would have been placed in secure, special schools where they have smaller classes with specialist SEN teachers. In the meantime virtually all classes in the state system have a number of these students that will constantly disrupt the lessons.
aww the rich kids need to mingle with the peasants? maybe those rich can pay more tax and the tax funds the schools for everyone... instead of rich tax avoidance then sending theirs off to private schools. Being rich does not make someone smarter or less disruptive.
@Thinkagain-d7x There's meant to be a gradual build up to have the funding for facillities... Yeah cogs move slow. Funding was allocated in 2024.
The Labour party is conservative?
Yeah, they've been referred to as red Tories.
I worked in school and I'm looking for another job. It is horrible the violence and disrespect, and we aren't listening either.
I’m an ex cop having taught in average comps for 32 years and still love teaching! Dodgy kids=dodgy parents in 9/10 cases: these poor parents are either weak, ineffective, anti-establishment and/or will happily support their child over the school……glad these teachers are striking and drawing attention to what is happening in our classrooms…..
A perfect summary. Plus ban mobile phones from the school as is done down here.
A generation raised by the Internet
It's not just the kids, or the parents. The education system is using an out of date model which uses the kids as data. Meaning what the kids are learning is mostly boring and the way they learn it is boring (I call it death by PowerPoint), has little application to the real world or their futures, and if they don't get high grades they are failures.
Also there is an increasing amount of students with Special Educational Needs (SEN) in schools which is making it harder for teachers.
Especially in schools in difficult areas (but actually everywhere imo) we need a new approach which doesn't just use the kids as data but actually treats them as human beings, who probably do want to learn, but just not in the way we currently go about it.
School is a one size fits all project, children aren't one size fits all.
This! Death by PowerPoint is so true. Creative teachers aren't given license to inspire. The focus is often on ensuring the difficult children get through the school day to the detriment of the rest who are often demotivated and/or let their behaviour slip.
kids need to learn to be bored sometimes. A school isn't a circus. As a teacher I will plan fun lessons sometimes, but students also need to learn to sit there and read sometimes too.
This idea lessons are boring is an excuse for school leaders to pin it on teachers. In reality, its mainly due to fried attention spans from social media, parents who don't teach their kid to value education, and soft approaches to behaviour.
@jjh2920 much agreed with you to some extent. I think you misunderstand. I hate the idea of a circus school with no outcome. As a teacher I saw hardworking children very demotivated. Children should be challenged and learn to focus and read quietly too. But that latter side depends much on senior leadership. Many lessons are boring and pointless with deathly dull lesson plans. Some template lesson plans are excellent. But degrees of freedom is useful and necessary. Academy trusts often ban this entirely.
Add to the fact that the last two generations (Millennials & Gen Z) finished university only to be screwed over by "once in a lifetime" recessions leaving them unable to find a decent job in their field. Naturally, it leaves Gen Alpha asking "why bother?"
@Suwako__Moriya Most of Gen Alpha have absolutely no idea about the economic situation of the country. This is such a nonsense argument. Behaviour is often much better in other countries that are much poorer. Having taught abroad in places like colombia and such, kids that come from the ghetto with little opportunity were much better behaved than kids in the UK. And trust me, their lives were much harder than any UK kids life. The economy doesn't explain the behaviour crisis at all. Soft restorative approaches to behaviour, alongside parents who don't value education and social media are large parts of the problem.
I teach in Hong Kong. No mobile phones, reasonable discipline procedures, a culture where education matters, teaching paid well. I despair for the UK, I grew up there but could never teach there.
Unfortunately, humans need some level of fear to regulate behaviour. Fear of repercussions. It's just reality and is the reason why a system of laws works, as non-ideal as that is. What else do you expect when the ability of adults to discipline children is removed. There are no consequences anymore.
As the purchasing power of the average person collapsed over the last four decades, both parents have been forced to work to raise a family (one wage used to support a family in the 70's and early 80's), the neglect shows in the stats. Who is raising your kids? The Tate brothers and social media. A set of negativity bias ridden algorithms that drive engagement in unethical ways. Schools and local governments have been defunded over decades of bipartisan 'austerity measures'. Modern 'academy' schools are run like prisons repleat with wardens and isolation holding cells for the child inmates. To say it is dystopian is putting it lightly. The UK can do better and there needs to be pressure to assert the political will to change this for the better. Enough of the 'we just need to beat the kids more' rhetoric.
there is no excuse for not parenting your kids,dont have them otherwise.
@@scarred10 people aren't having them. Seen the birth rates?
I had to go to school, it was forced on me from the age of 4 to 18. It made me feel so dreadful and I still can’t see the point in the waste of all those years. I never hit a teacher or anything but I understand the kids frustration. Why can’t we have open classes. Like a community centre Where you can sign up for the classes you actually want to do and where we check on the kids welfare?
Kids are beaten into the 9-5 Monday to Friday and stuck in a uniform so they don’t ask questions when they reach 18 and start getting jobs
thats called an education and you should have paid attention.
@@scarred10to what? To who?
Parents! Please, for love of god, don’t give your kids smart phones right out of the womb. Even grown adults have a hard time having a healthy relationship with those devices, so what do you think will happen to a child’s brain? Your 9 year old doesn’t need an iPhone. I know it’s probably not the only cause for this crisis but definitely a big contributor without a doubt.
Kids nowadays do not have any discipline at home, so how do you expect teachers to enforce it?
Stopping parents frrom giving their kids a slap, and banning corporal punishment in schools, has 'nt helped.
as someone still in school, i can confirm that the majority of my classmates parents don't care if they are bad at school and they have no discipline. but tbh i think corporal punishiment in school is super wrong
I’m glad we no longer use corporal punishment, but we’ve gone WAY too far in the other direction.
I was caned and it did work.
Depends on what for - those brats? Yes!
I was caned and it worked.
This is exactly why I left teaching. The behaviour of children in secondary schools is out of control. How he describes it at the beginning is exactly what I experienced and witnessed. I’d taught in U.K. for almost 20 years where classroom management was an art form and most children respected the boundaries. I then taught abroad for a couple of years and then came back to the same school I’d taught at before. I couldn’t believe the transformation and disintegration in behaviour and how the focus of the SLT supported the misbehaving children rather than the teacher. My classroom management skills had always been good and I’d always managed to have a two way respectful relationship with my pupils. I couldn’t understand what had changed/gone wrong until one day I realised: telephones and computer based teaching, both diminishing the skills of listening to, communicating with and respecting the teacher and others in the class. It wasn’t helped by having 35 pupils squashed into classes too small and a school size of over 2,000 pupils. Obviously, many of the pupils were absolutely lovely and wanted to learn but just couldn’t. For a reader who doesn’t understand school classrooms and school management in general it would be easy to blame the teacher - but the issue is much more serious than that. Our school leadership teams and government are failing our pupils and our teachers. There is so much wrong with the education system now in the U.K. I know so many outstanding, highly educated and trained teachers who have now left the profession. I left in 2012 and haven’t regretted it once despite having been a devoted teacher. My heart breaks for our education system and the pupils in it. Good luck to these teachers and well done for taking a stand.
Do Teachers need to start wearing security cameras
Yes
Most schools have security cameras now
As a former teacher, the answer is yes.
I left a mainstream school years ago and I’d never go back to teaching in a mainstream school again.
All down to the overuse of screen time online, the attention spans of young people now are shocking. Society has given young people free access to social media, which is altering their minds by desensitizing them to acts of violence and many other things. Narcissism is now an epidemic in society, and people have to decide what kind of society they want to live in because this is clearly not working.
it has absolutely nothing to do with screen time but certainly phones need to be off during class.
@@scarred10 bullshit - go and read the anxious generation by Jonathan Haidt - and you might get the bigger picture
Parents not parenting believing the child over the parent. No disciple. Being to afraid to actually excluded or expell children. I couldn't do it.
Remove persistent disruptors from mainstream education. Every assault referred to police as a criminal act and dealt with seriously. Parents unable to raise children replaced. Cameras and security in schools as normal. Zero tolerance for bullying, SA, onsite intoxication. Physical checks and therapy available for all students.
It wouldn't really be all that difficult to make modern schools calm places of serious education and development, it just requires the political and social will.
I like your replacing parents... I'm glad you've volunteered to become a foster carer. What a top guy! Sacrificing your job to take these kids on for little reward!
In seriousness, we have a shortage of foster carers already without adding more kids to the system. My phone rang 3 times yesterday begging me to take more kids on.
Parents should be held accountable.
As a teacher across the pond, I feel for these teachers. Parents need to step up to their parental duties if they expect us to stay in the classroom with their “little angels.”
It's not a new problem, I left school in 1993 and I remember seeing the school bullies using a can of hair spray as a flame-thrower so that they could chase other kids around.
The worse football tackle that I heard about (I didn't see it happen i just talked to the injured kid), one of the school bullies lifted the other player off the ground by their private parts and the football wasn't even anywhere near them.
The local council was stupid enough to build a park and ride car park near the school and what a surprise break ins in the car park were a major problem. Most school bullies would show off all the car radios they had in their bags, this was in the old days when car radios were not integrated into the car.
One time we had a change of head master who was so appalled by the complaints from the neighbours, the head master called an emergency school assembly where he gave a speech saying "the schools name is mud", so we all went around calling each other Mr Mud, hello Mr Mud.
I never saw any violence against the teachers, although one teach got locked in the TV cupboard twice and locked out of the class room once. Why continuously leave your bunch of keys on your desk after the first time that happened.
Lol, where did you grow up?
😂 I wanna know too
As a student _at_ LIPA, this video is a criminal misrepresentation of our school. The strikes aren't about student behaviour, they're about the awful conditions _in school_. Channel 4 cut many parts of the interviews to try and change the message. Absolutely disgusting.
It's mainly the parents fault.
With respect, people don’t parent in a vacuum, this is down to more than just parenting.
Beyond the way these kids are dealing with the fallout of a global pandemic and the collapse of both the biosphere and respected institutions, life in the Anglosphere is not built to support parents and families. Parents are working multiple jobs and dealing with poverty and its attendant risks across the Anglosphere, and that causes problems.
There are kids with behavioural problems at my son’s school here in Norway, but nothing particularly serious, and certainly nothing widespread.
The difference, at least in part, is that the kids here are almost universally housed and fed, are beneficiaries of child care subsidies etc., get timely mental healthcare when and if they need it… and parents are generally accommodated by their employers - they can pick up their kids every day at 3pm and spend the afternoon without missing out in essential pay and opportunities.
Angry, hungry, depressed children act out. And saying, ‘but it’s the parent’s fault!!!’ doesn’t help anything.
Even if this was entirely down to shoddy parenting, these kids exist and will be adults before you know it. Then the real trouble will start.
So maybe consider why this is happening, and do more than point fingers if you want to fix it.
10 of us brought up in a poor rural family 1960s and 70s not money, free dinners hand me down clothes.
We all had respect for our elders and have ALL done well in life.
We had good parents both of whom worked
@@annieh.3431great point, 'It's the parents fault' is such an easy throwaway comment that doesn't help the issue at all.
Lets not forget, education and all early family support/youth clubs were subject to pretty much year on year cuts during the entirety of the Conservative government (and school cuts continue to look likely to continue with Labour), decimating the support and opportunities for families and young people.
It will take time, but if we give people skills, knowledge, positive networks and opportunities it can change.
If the kids know there is no future no matter what they study notinv will improve their lifes. Their own perents are an example why studying gets you no where as most of them will be very well educated with noting to show for. Then they work much harder then back in 1970s, Todays jobs are not easy much more draining and by the time your home all your energy is sucked right out of you from your employer making them millions whilst you fight for scrapts to just pay bills. If you want the humans existence then this cycle needs to end giving some financial freedome gives a perent some relief to focus on whats important. If your always running on pay check to paycheck arguments between husband wife no holidays and not able to do any activities without complaining as everything cost money. The kids have no choice to stay home and become mentally depressed. Stop trying to find reasons to say it was like this and that in 1970 focus now and relise how hard it is getting. Before you know none of these kids or up coming adults will have own kids and we will not exist.
I was married at 20, widowed at 29 and brought up our 3 daughter. Stress lol what a load of rubbish! They need to grow up and take responsibility for their behaviour.
I've worked since I was 10 around the farm my dad worked on.
Never been given a penny by anyone and done well.
Why are the allowed phones in class? 🤷♂️
This is what happens when governments remove parents' capacity to discipline their children. The pendulum has swung too much in the opposite direction. The children are now feral because they know there are absolutely no repercussions for bad behaviour. Before I ever set foot in a school, I feared my father, yes, feared his wrath. I wouldn't have dreamt of throwing anything at a teacher because it would have been the last thing I threw.
no one's removed parents ability to discipline their children. You do not need to assault children to discipline them.
discipline doesnt mean violence and the lack of it is a good thing.
This behavior is supported by poor behavior in society generally. Accountability seems to be a thing of the past.
Make students and parents accountable for their actions by failing them and banning them from schools. Maybe a repeat or two should put their priorities back in order.
It doesn't, some students being constantly excluded makes them even more batty and end being a danger to society
If they don’t want to be educated then they won’t. Simple as. You can’t force them to pay attention.
As familes break up so does society and of course children are largely a product of their environment.
There needs to be an inquiry of parents with their children enrolled in schools. Every primary/secondary school in this country. And of every parent until the problem is found. This is getting ridiculous
Maybe education shouldn’t be implemented as a prison system
Education is not for everyone - the disruptive types need to be fast tracked into the army / national service / learn a trade. My late grandfather left home aged 14 (!!!!!) in 1922 and got himself a trade on the London docks - he did very well for himself.
As a former special education teacher, I get your point and agree with you, to a point. You are ignoring the fact that many of these "disruptive" people don't have the full scale IQs needed for military service or skilled trade work. No parent or teacher can raise IQs effectively. Different populations have different mean IQs, so different populations are going to have greater or lesser percentages of people unable to do much of anything compared to others.
Make parents accountable
I've been attacked with a broom, I've been attacked with a club, and I've been hit in the face multiple times, and I've been shoved out the way, etc. I did quit, but back in it again since finding work in another industry is ridiculously hard at the moment
Unfortunately this is the result in society when discipline is called abuse and children/teenagers know there are no consequences to their actions. Yet in the media they are made out to be poor, poverty stricken little darlings.
I failed my maths gcse purely based on our teacher was spending more time outside with pupils who were being disruptive and this was 14 years ago. I feel for these teachers and also the pupils who want to succeed and aren't being supported
Sorry but this was always the case. Maybe not in the posh schools Channel 4 producers attended, but in my local comprehensive yes. Fights, throwing chairs, jumping out of windows. Normal part of the school day.
"Each new generation born is in effect an invasion of civilisation by little barbarians who must be civilised before it's too late." Thomas Sowell
When I was at school in the 70s our maths teacher used to get chairs and desks thrown at him. He didn't go on strike.
This was happening in the 80s when I was at school. There is no recent “breakdown” in behaviour, a minority of violent kids has ever been the case.
Corporal punishment
Remove persistent disruptors from mainstream education.
This is a libral problem. You wanted the disapline to be abolished from schools. And now you are reaping the rewards.
This is a school leadership problem, theres always a minority of children in schools who instead of facing consequences for their bullying behaviour they are over-rewarded at the expense of all the other children and staff.
To blame autistic students is lazy as a few may have additional needs but most autistic children mask when in school and to assume all have violent behaviours is wrong.
Let's also not pretend that there aren't teachers who also bully students and this is also not addressed adequately.
Bullying exists in all schools no matter the post code or social standing. It's a long standing problem that has never been dealt with properly.
Katherine Berbalsingh tbrough strong leadership and supportive parents proves it can be done.
The results the school has obtained have been incredible.
Stromg discipline and good teachers prove things can be done.
We also need specific SEND schools to help those children develop.
But when the parents are not allowed to discipline thier children this is what ends up happening
This could be the reason
Ban mobile phones for kids .
To try and be a good teacher in todays age must be absolutely rotten. Im glad i went to schools 20 years ago when most kids had reapect for teachers. Especially maths teachers, we all feared the coffee breath and shower of spit that came with a grilling 😂 my parents used to get the ruler across their butt cheeks i thought we were lucky! Biggest problem today is the lack of authority and respect for authority. Schools are turning into a social gathering and political ideology instead of a place of learning and a real education. Look at todays youth. All the proof you need.
A friend of mine told me that being a teacher an urban area was making him so racist that he had to quit
There's little accountability in society in general.
"Exclusions," might not be great for the outcomes of violent/challenging children, but it's not fair that teachers and others kids' education should suffer for it.
its gona get worst.....
Following british values.
It not even that anymore 😂😂😂 British values get broken even before they’re made
Hopefully the Adolescent show was a wake-up call for those ignorant of what is occurring in schools in the UK and USA. Why aren’t parents advocating for better behavior in their kids’ schools? It is not a teacher classroom management issue nor not building sufficient relationships. Admin and the school board need to support teachers with better behavior policies and enforcement.
Anyone disruptive who doesn't want to learn, just leave, let those who want to be educated get educated.
This is what happens when parents and teachers are not allowed to discipline their kids. they can do what they want and if anyone lifts a finger to them they have the book thrown at them. I am not saying that kids should be beaten but parents should be allowed to deal out consequences when a child is out of line.
there is no law stopping parental discipline,(not disaplin) ,that isnt synonymous with violence.
Why aren't these violent incidents reported to the police? If these kids behaved like this in public, the police would be called - it's spineless headteachers and principals wanting to protect the schools'/colleges' reputation at the expense of their own staff.
The result of a liberal society
This is what happens when scolding a kid is considered "violence" and the school gets sued, the teacher is reprimanded/loses their job and the parents believe coddling the idiots they call children is best for them.
What's worse is, these idiots will grow up to be worse than the Gen Z kids that cry about having to work a nine-to-five job.
The issue with prolonged prosperity is that everyone forgets hardship, and when hardship is forgotten, people will take things for granted as if they're entitled to everything.
While I think teaching and schools can be a problem, they are not the main one imo: it's parenting/parents and society. When I was young, my teacher caught me out of school doing something I shouldn't be doing. She phoned my parents, and I was in deep trouble by default. These days there are too many parents that don't care -- they don't discipline their kids or back up the teachers. Parents like this have always existed (my mum was a teacher and was threatened by parents in the 70s!) but it's much more prevalent now. Without parents disciplining their kids, what can schools do, really? If you exclude/expel kids they just become tomorrow's problem.
She's been retired for a decade, and many of the teachers she knows are finding the kids to be much more badly behaved. Violence and consistent disrespect used to be rare, now it's a lot more common. These are primary school kids.
People blame the kids or Gen Z, but it's our generation that are bringing up these kids :(
“Prolonged prosperity”. Living standards have been falling for 20 odd years now. This is not the generation of prolonged prosperity and hasn’t been for a while. I think maybe you are talking about your own experience of the school system.
@@BonaNitooo-b9eof course.
@BonaNitooo-b9e well you can't talk about someone else's experience 🤔
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You don't think this is prolonged prosperity? The last war the UK has actually lived through was World War II, which is eighty years ago. This isn't about "living standards" alone, this is people of the country not having to deal with any hardship. Vast majority of the people alive in the UK today, myself included, haven't remotely been through what people fifty years ago have experienced.
Point remains, people today have no idea what hardship even is. Their idea of hardship is, "there's no air conditioning in my office at work, it makes life so difficult and I want to quit."
Underpaid.
@ryandudley3616 the people at my local McDonald's & local library are poorly paid - they still provide a superb service. Most teachers are useless which is why they spend all their lives in the school system as they can't imagine a live outside what they know.
@@revol148. . . ? Seek help.
@@ryandudley3616 Between 1979-1993 I went to prep, public, independent & state schools - I really think I have enough knowledge of the teaching profession and how useless (most) of the teachers were !
@@revol148 fairly paid teacher>boomer teachers from the 80’s
@@revol148properly paid teachers>boomer teachers from the 80’s
Formal education isn't for everyone.
If you could have 2 teachers in the room at once that may help in some cases to instil authority in the class. If a teacher is spare in the staff room, they could sit in on a class and mark their work at the back of the class and back up too. Or the headmaster / deputy head also step into classes often. Failing that get CCTV in and show parents what their children are like. Isn't there some way of jamming mobile phone signals in a building, if mobiles are an issue ?
Every teacher, like a police officer who can arrest and remove people, should be able to remove a disruptive/disobedient pupil. And management should not send them back until say, serious thought after say, a month, and even then, if disobedience continues, then the teacher should just send them out again. Further, separate programmes need to be set up for unruly kids, which includes a plan to get them back up to their required study level. There is no point putting a kid who has fallen behind back in the same class. We need to go back to having levels for each subject. Also, if literacy and numeracy are not up to par, they should be required to redo, or even, go back a year. Test them properly at the end of every year, like we used to. Pass and move on, or, redo the years (most important for literacy and numeracy. Learn to read so you can read to learn. Learn to write so you can show you have learned. This also improves thought and speaking. Learn to count so you can calculate your future.
This is the result of successive governments. There are not enough police on the streets, criminals are being let out early, shoplifting is dealt with a caution etc. Parents and their children are taught that they don’t have to take any responsibility for anything, that actions have consequences, they can play the victim, feign mental illness & that they don’t have to work for anything. Teachers are there to teach, not to babysit unruly children. Often, teachers are not backed up by a cowardly head & routinely admit unruly students. Meanwhile, globalisation and tech have eroded teachers salaries & reduced the need for teachers. This will get worse with AI. Students won’t need to think at all. Teachers must take action now.
They walked out in protest of the school but obviously the parents are mostly to blame
BROKEN FAMILIES...BROKEN HOMES .....you're seeing the results ....
It's more a symptom of Broken society where the expectations of being a decent hardworking person are not appreciated but instead being dishonest and a chancer are being elevated. See the current political class.
Single parent hosue hold
Don't paint EVERYONE with the same brush! I'm a single mum to 3 grown up children. Women are held accountable as a single Mum whereas deadbeat Dads are not, they always get a free pass. My kids all left state schools with lots of GCSEs went on to do A Levels got a degree and got a good job. In fact my daughter studied Law and got a masters in it too. No help from Dad. No CSA payments no help from his family. We did it all on our own. My children were no bother to any teacher. My oldest son always had a book in his pocket so when things kicked off in the classroom he would just read until it calmed down.
@@SkintLivingUKwell said.🎉
@@SkintLivingUK what about hardworking dads that got divorced for money
Does there need to be security standing outside classrooms
Teachers are well paid in Australia but I wouldn't do it for any money. A friend got forced out of her teaching job by a campaign of assaults and harassment by a student criminal gang. The education department did nothing to support her.
Kids are unwittingly rebelling against the stupidity of the system: 'Schools teach exactly what they are intended to teach and they do it well: how to be a good Egyptian and remain in your place in the pyramid.' - John Taylor Gatto
Can't imagine why this has happened (Sarcasm)
...honestly something has to stop
Thanks for posting
Single moms....provide no disipline
The regional governments are so pathetic… all they do is talk!
This was what put me off from going into teaching. If you don't have a natural authority, you will get ripped apart by secondary schoolers. Source: I used to be one.
Not a new problem. What or who is to blame? Inadequate or no actual behaviour management training for teachers, a culture of "blame the teacher" where senior managment start telling the teachers their lessons are boring and apparently this is causing violence from students. Unions are also to blame because they are obsessed with petty pay claims and all their nation strikes are about that, never about poor student discipline or the other issue that is damaging teachers-excessive workload.
Bring back corporal punishment and strict but loving dad in the home and this problem goes away. The government should not demonise parents for disciplining their kids.
Kids do not fear authority figures because the main authority figure in their life - the father - has been systematically removed from home via unfair divorce outcomes / lack of contact with kids because of angry ex-wife.
They protesting outside the kids houses? Im sorry but if my kid through a chair at a teacher he'd be wearing that chair for the rest of his term. Where's the parenting here?
What do they want the government to do?
Sadly there's no discipline or consequences now its no wonder these kids do what they want it's the systems fault
£38k average wage. 12-13 weeks holiday per year. 6 hour days. Not a bad gig if you can get it.
Been happening for decades
Our culture is falling apart because we continue to refuse change and evolution. We're relying on governments that don't solve our problems and we're continually going through the same motions. The violence going on in schools is just a sample of just how terrible things are, and yet what's going to be done about it? Nothing, because we don't fight for change the way we're meant to. Talking isn't going to solve problems, actions will.
WHAT WAS WRONG WITH SCHOOL SEGREGATION
Sounds like my secondary school in the 1980s tbh
As you should ❤❤❤❤
The same is true for primary