Jackie Chan: Why the Action Star is Hated in Hong Kong
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- To many in the West, Jackie Chan is a martial arts star and action hero. But back in his birthplace of Hong Kong, he remains deeply unpopular-particularly among the embattled city’s pro-democracy movement. This is the story of a complex Chinese actor.
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When Bruce Lee was alive Hong Kong was a British Colony, so he never had to answer to the Chinese Government.
Dam
Bruce Lee was an individualist. So he would not have been loyal to the Communist Party like Jackie, who is a card carrying member.
In one of his movies the camera panned to the sign outside a park in Hong saying no dogs no Chinese.
So he was not blind to the treatment
it still is really this ia all under the thumb of the white man.
@@sko1beer that happens in 'Fists of Fury' which is based in Shanghai. There have never been signs in Hong Kong saying 'no dogs, no Chinese', not even in fiction.
Hong Kongers disliked Jackie Chan long before he expressed his political beliefs. His reputation died after his extramarital affairs and ill treatment of his illegitimate daughter.
@fireson23 you're talking nonsense.
@@JoshuaElijahC what happened
So? Extramarital affairs are bad but not for outsiders to meddle in. Jackie Chan is entertainer, & a very good one. His personal life is his own.
Edit : His political views are also his own. (Not everybody needs to agree on everything. That's free will.)
Thant Zwe Aung completely agree. My point was - this video is wrong because Jackie Chan’s popularity in HK didn’t dissolve because his political opinions.
HK buried his scandals, no matter what Jackie did he will never be cancelled. He exploited his nanny, his connections with the underworld, illegitimate child, all his scandals are all buried. HK people dislike him but he wines and dines with HK police chiefs and government officials. He’s untouchable.
I remember when Jackie Chan was on Late Night With David Letterman. He talked about when Hong Kong was transferred from the UK to China meeting the Queen of England. He said that Taiwan is next. I wish it was on UA-cam. But it was aired in 1997. So he’s been devoted to China for a long time.
He is a proud Chinese man.
@@mlgods9727a traitor
So based
Fun Fact: Jackie has made more money as a music recording artist than a movie star. Easy to wrap your head around when you realize that a musician that is popular in China compared to the USA can easily become a billionaire if only 1% of the population buys their music because there are so many people.
Another fun fact: The more powerful and rich you are in China, the harder you will fall if you speak out against the CCP regime. Case in point: Jack Ma, the former richest man in China.
That is not true.
@@Zero8880 Another fact: atheism ruined China.
*"You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"*
Damn bro first time I really felt that statement
NOT THE SAME...🤬
Hell yeah 😂😂😂
Wow dark knight ight g
💩
You skipped over the part of his life where his parents took him back to China to be raised in the Chinese Opera Academy. He grew up under some of the most harshly disciplined Chinese rule. He did not have the freedoms of most raised in Hong Kong, so it makes sense he doesn't sympathize as much as people would expect.
When Jackie Chan was growing up in China Hong Kong was under British colonial rule and the people were heavily repressed. There were no freedoms for people growing up in Hong Kong in those days. The protesters don't know how much better they have it now that Hong Kong is reunified because they're all under thirty and didn't live through that era.
Give me a fucking break lol
@@foxtrotalphaone Now THAT is a perfect example of propaganda.
@@foxtrotalphaone someone actually had research reasons why he’s personally like this besides the extramarital affairs, the Panama papers, and illegitimate children.
@@bigwadefan the British brainwashed people in HK to hate mainland China. HK people had less freedom under British rule.
"The 5star red Chinese flag us respected around the world" I see he still has that comedy in him lmao
it is. go try to disrespect them by throwing away all shit chinese items. do it
@@FBI_Not you basically can't do anything if you throw away every items that are made in China including your "very western iphone"
Just like how Americans hang their flag wherever they can and pledge allegiance to it. Just like how the British Live their flag when it stands for atrocities.
Well u can't blame Jackie I feel like he has something that the people in China forced him to do this. Not only him even american celebrities like john cena had did the same thing
@Not FBI lmao everything you buy us made there
“Never meet your heroes, they’ll only disappoint you.”
Well, a Chinese celebrity is always expected to agree to their government because if they don't, it will be the end of their career. People and major brands and networks will boycott them.
That’s no excuse
@@originalame that is an excuse, like most people wouldnt want to lose everything just because of a message, but if you do, you'd be remembered as quite valiant.
Example Richard Gere
Sounds a lot like American actors. Step out of line and you are finished.
That’s why I love Chow Yuen Fat
I feel like Jackie will always make the decision that benefits him the most professionally. If going against mainland China will hurt him professionally, he won't do that.
That makes no sense. At this late stage in his career, hes already made his wealth and fame. So what if China boycotts him, when was the last time you saw a new Jackie Chan movie. It's one thing to be politically apathetic to preserve your career, it's another to be vocally active in support of a political organization. He's flipped flopped on the issue but if all he wants to do is be prosperous he just needs to move somewhere else and live out his days putting his wealth to use without fear of persecution or chastising from either side, but that's not what he wants at the moment.
Agree
@@fergar0206 cuz his son is done in China due to the drug issue. Jackie needs to get as much as money he can in order to gurantee his son and possible future grand child or even grand grand child a luxury life. Apart from that, when you got certain amount of money, you might start thinking something bigger. Like social status or other shit because in the chinese tridational thinking, actor or actress is a very low class job no matter how much fame they've owned. People called actor/actress "xizi" which is a disriminal word to all kinds of entertainers.
The west made Jackie Chan.
Made him king after Lee was removed. And when the west is fighting China to survival he not only betrayed his masters, he is snitching to China.
He will be disgraced but w3 can't take all his money since he has some in China.
@Joshua Carrillo tell that to Hong Kongers, I think you'll find a lot of them feel a little different on that issue. Even if they identify as Chinese that doesn't mean they want to be under Chinese government rule. ideally they would have a say in what happens to them, but obviously the Chinese government doesn't feel the same.
Jackie's movies get less popular among the HK audience when he passed his prime in stunt act. Jackie did not change his movie style, every subsequent movie features a similar storyline but lighter stunt acts, I think that's why he went to Hollywood because his stunt act is still unique over there at the time. His private life sinks his image in HK, nowadays people around his generation remember him for his marital affair.
It's weird since Kung Fu Panda has him in the cast and yet China and Hong Kong seemed to care about the movie so much despite having him in it
Who care about SOME of HK peoples hate him or love him!? I still like him very much.
Hong Kong is where he was born
To make a long story short he's paid and bought for like any other celebrity.
Facts
Jackie Chan is Based
Seems that way...
I think you mean biased right?
@@blacko-lantern5637 no. Based
People seem to forget about one VERY important fact: Jackie Chan is the last person on earth you should ask about political agendas! Remember, he spend his entire childhood in the Peking Opera where he was trained in Martial Arts. There has no education provided to him, he couldn't even read after leaving the school. In his biography he even says that to this day he is struggling with writing autographs for fans. Everything he learned in live came from the film industry, he was never taught on any political subject. So when mainland China opened his hands and welcomed him after 1998 to support his movie making, it seems natural to me that he is not interested in Communism or Democracy, as long as he can continue to do what he does best. He is no traitor to anyone, he is just saying stuff that from his point of view isn't even a political statement - he's just never grown up to be able to give political statements.
Lmao wts logic? Not knowing how to read n write doesn't mean one is ignorant. Also, HK&Taiwan made him famous . It was the HK/TW industry that groom these stars in the 80s,90s. China worked for them then,not the other way round.
Now that China have gain economic power,they are even more tyrannic. Literally cancel anyone or company that isn't pro communism/oneChina.
@@RonLarhz
Xi Jinping tries to make contemporary China resemble Mao's ideas of Socialism...... with greater power than that of Mao's......!!
Amongst the big HK stars who didn't finish high school or go to college, Bruce Lee, Chow Yun Fat, Stephen Chow, and Tony Leung, Jet Li(mainland), and Donnie Yen, only Jackie Chan is dumb enough to opine on politics the way he does. Every time he speaks on politics, the dumber he looks and the more he exposes himself. One one-side vague statement after another without ever substantiating or elaborating on the points he tries to make. What's wrong with it if you ask? If it weren't for HK he wouldn't have become an international superstar, not in the US in the 70s, 80's or 90s as an Asian or Asian American, yet as soon as the CCP comes calling he turns around and bites the hands that fed him. He can be pro-CCP for all I care but he lacks the awareness to remain silent on these issues.
That's in addition to him being a serial womanizer for decades and one who even admitted to driving drunk multiple times from partying. The hypocrisy of his decision to cut his son off of his wealth is a testament to Jackie Chan's low IQ.
3 days ago, Hong Kong actor comedian Richard Ng Man-tat (Wu Mengda) succumbed to liver cancer and passed away. This is sad. The last blog he posted on Weibo is saying that "I am a Chinese" together with a picture of China's national flag. This drew him a lot of hate remarks from anti-China haters, scorning him even in his death.
Ng man-tat's patriotic stance shows that not only Jackie Chan identifies as Chinese, loves his country and is proud of China. Others like Donnie Yen, Andy Lau, Stephen Chow and Louis Koo are all patriotic Hong Kong actors/directors.
Rest in peace Uncle Tat. May you be heaven where the scorns and hates of those anti-China haters never reach you. You will be remembered and loved.
@@user-fd3ld9qc7d spamming is a sign of desperation.
Jackie Chan is a great entertainer and a patriot but a shit human being. At the least, he was a horrible husband and father for decades and yiur continuing to cover that up with his patriotism is willful ignorance.
I really enjoy watching young people with their eyes wide open knowing what's going on around them and voice their opinions to enlighten the world
They are a enteral echo chamber that all sound the same with very few light bulbs.
Would it not be better to interview people living in HongKong? Also, from this, it seems he is trying to be understanding to all sides, which is honourable.
Many watch him for his martial arts skills and not for political alignment.
I think he's the best ❤️👍🏽🙌☕✋👋👇💪☝️💖🛀🙏👌🏼
I'll watch his old movies but without purchasing them or streaming them legally.
many others are adults who oppose the murder of women, and therefore by extension oppose the hk riots.
@Jaison Manson Or China could just leave Taiwan and Hong Kong to do their own thing? They don't pose a threat yet they are met with violence.
@Jaison Manson So out of fear for capitalism China is violently cracking down on Hong Kong? How is that any different from what America has done to countries in South America over fear of communism? If China is so sure of themselves then they should have nothing to fear. Hong Kong could easily exist on its own the same way the country of Taiwan has. Seems to me that the CCP has quite the fragile ego.
i will always love jackie chan's movies and the characters he plays in his movies. That does not mean I have to love his personal life or support his opinions and ideologies.
Exactly.
Respect
Jackie Chan reminds me of the celebrities who support Trump. It's like seeing an actor from Mr Roger's at a Klan rally.
Why even make this comment lol who are you trying to convince?
Well said
Jackie will forever be legend
It's funny af I saw many ppl in west saying that he's the only celebrity with zero hate from ppl, everyone loves him, even apart from politics he was criticized a lot because of his sex scandals, illegitimate daughter, his attitude on cheating on wife, his spoiled son got caught in beijing relating to drugs, what a mess.
it was part of the propaganda from CCP, recently I saw him on multiple pictures/articles featuring "zero hate actor"
Sounds like another "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" cases
I guess he turned out to be a hero
@@truthnumb972 true
Same with Aung San Suu Kyi
the cpc is founded on a doctrine of control by violence and repression. some other countries are the same. jackie sold out.
@@jamesjustin2201, that saying isn't really that stupid. It all depends on the majority's opinions. For example, even if you've done good deeds all your life, but you did one small mistake and some people in power chose to capitalize on that flaw to make you look bad.... You'll be treated as a villain too.
Our society is so corrupt that even villains can become heroes and vice versa. There's a saying that History is written by those who won... Making lies become common knowledge to spread prejudice.
Hong Kong idolizes BRUCE LEE more than Jackie Chan. lol.
I love Jackie Chan because when I was born lee was already dead.
The Game Ridiculous. Loving a moron like Jackie Chan is ridiculous.
This is pretty much true everywhere as well, people have Bruce lee posters not Jackie chan posters
@@jojotwice8918 idk about you but my rush hour posters go ham.
@@Glorytoglorzo bullshit sounds like u don't even like the Chinese. U probably bought those posters for Chris Tucker😂😂😂
The statement that Jackie Chan was raised in China was wrong. The China Opera Academy, despite it’s name, was located in Kowloon, Hong Kong, not mainland China.
Hong Kong is still China...mainland or not...
Damn, even someone like Jackie Chan has haters and enemies
Jackie Chan has admitted to being a 'total jerk' in his personal life by treating women badly and letting his rage get so out of hand he threw his baby across the room.
The martial arts superstar said that he used to strut around in a gold chain, sleep with prostitutes and drive drunk all the time - crashing a Porsche one morning and a Mercedes Benz later that night.
Man I remember when son got busted for weed and had to go to jail. Initially I was disappointed that Jackie let his didn’t help his son, then realized that unlike other spoiled kids he let his son face the consequences like an adult big ups to Jackie for that.
meanwhile China sentences people to death on drug charges...yea, great parenting
@@Rctdcttecededtef Jaycee only did 6 months back in ‘15. The only reason people are getting death sentences is due to retaliation for the arrest of an executive of Huawei.
totally, that's we should support him in his endeavors to curb democracy
@@Robersora you can do that if you want sure. Though I disagree, I think if the people of Hong Kong want independence, then they should get it.
@@elmalifico3708 I was being facetious because your comment failed to comment on the content of the video.
*_"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."_*
That's just really sad how many times things like this has happened
I LOVE HOW YOU PUT THAT QUOTE
most of these people were bad all along. alot of bad people are the ones who have time to trick and lie to people and that normally makes them successful. psychopaths and sociopaths etc do very well in this world. it must be a playground for them. just know that pretty much all your idols are probably like him. a lie
Villain to whom
@@jackl2257 a villain to truth and liberty. he is an enemy of freedom
@@givmespace not everyone’s on that side
His stunts were pretty amazing, let’s not forget
Speak for yourself us from Hong Kong still very much support Jackie
Dark Knight's Two-Face: "You either die a hero or live long enough to be a villain."
Due to Mainland China Communists Party !Do you love culture revolution ?
Look at those lazy rioter they're totally undeveloped in any aspect of their life so much so that they hate to see successful person or happy person. See his beard is very unhygienic that it looks like some old corn chips is still there.
Care to know who these rioters represent.. Do they have goal to have familes of their own.
these rioter never care if they burn old folks alive in the street what more if they triumph in overthrowing the government.
All they care to do is having free stuff and then live in their parents house because nobody wants to hire them with their lazy attitude and crass behaviour.
@@bimboyaquino7091 kadire amputa, umalis ka nga dito nakakahiya bilat ng china.
he never was
@@alphaomega7112 zero subs mo utak iskwater ka kasi
Jackie Chan cartoon was my favorite thing to watch as a kid
Oh shittttt.. With uncle!?
Forgot all about that until now.. Madness, loved it!
OONNEE MOORRE THIINNNGG
Yeah that shit was dope
Still is one of my favorites
@@user-ym9dz5uy2v AIYA JACKIEEEE
Funny that those young people thought they really represented everyone in Hong Kong. I feel sorry for older Hong Kong people being mis-represented.
I love Jackie very much❤. He is a LEGEND, no doubt!
lmao
Exactly why I don't idolize celebrities or musicians, I can be a huge fan of someone's work, but not necessarily the individual themselves.
I’m coming to terms with this myself, it’s becoming truer time and time again.
People who idolize celebrity are pathetic
@karma tam woah there, he’s just stating his opinion dude
@@Bobo-tu6ln it’s true tho.
JACKIE CHAN IS FORCED TO DO SO... THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WOULD ARREST HIM JAIL HIM AND TORTURE HIM THEN TAKE ALL HIS MONEY AND STOP HIM FROM MAKING MOVIES. UNLIKE THE CELEBRITIES HERE WHO HAVE THE FUCKING FREEDOM TO SPEAK OUT YET THEY JOIN THE DEMOCRATS AND SUPPORT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. FUCK YOU ALL FOR BEING SO DUMB AND BLIND. OPEN YOUR EYES
I met Jackie Chan in restaurant. He’s nice. Has a hard grip.
Thats great. I hate shaking someone's hand and they delicately hold your hand. Cringe
@@edgyquinn7223 Lolz why?
YOU LUCKY MAN
@@edgyquinn7223 Maybe they didn't want to hold your hand? People don't like touching other people unless they already know each other well.
@@BabyfaceMilan and that is disrespectful.
What ever you say according to your wst political mindset , but Jackie is n will eternally love by people of this world.
big fan of 🌹 Jackie Chan 🌹🌹🌹.
Love you 🌹🌹 Jackie Chan 🌹.
Most people in Hong Kong who are a bit older, with stable jobs and families to take care of are against the protests. Jackie falls squarely in that demographic. So it's to be expected that he would be against it too.
These rioters are not peaceful by any means. Truth be told that these rioters are just lazy bastards of hongkong
HONGKONG RIOTERS burn people alive!
HONGKONG RIOTERS destroy hard earning business.
HONGKONG RIOTERS destroy train stations.
HONGKONG RIOTERS want a neo-communist-fascist regime where these lazy bastards get all FREE services until nobody want to give them because nobody wants to be with their lazy lifestyle these rioter are ANTI-successful person ANTI-Business.
@@bimboyaquino7091 or maybe they don’t want a authoritarian Communist regime that brainwashes its people and removes all their freedoms to be introduced into their country...
@Modi Superpooper 2020 its not necessarily that they are missing freedoms now, but it is starting to happen, with Hong Kong’s police force basically working for the Chinese government. Also Donald Trump was in full support of the protesters in Hong Kong because he is well aware of the effects of communist regimes and their control of people’s religion, finance and identity. And some people basically want this type of rule in the west! Help us God.
@@jamiebeattie8852 I agree with Modi Superpooper 2020, in a democracy you should respect opinion different from your own. Not kill, burn or smear everyone who disagrees with you. I live in a democratic country but I think the “democratic” movement in Hongkong has really gone out of control just because it has been sponsored by CIA operatives. And Vice does not want to present or interview those who disagree with the democratic movement just because it has its own agenda.
@@jamiebeattie8852 The reality is that they are more upset with Hong Kong's economy and status as a financial hub. The main reason for Hong Kong's success was not democracy, (they never had real democracy under the British) but because China was incredibly poor and Hong Kong was the world's access portal to China. Now Shenzhen, Shanghai and other big Chinese cities have risen in prominence and superseded Hong Kong's role as the financial center of Asia. That was inevitable, theres only so much wealth in the world and now its more evenly distributed across China and Asia in general which means Hong Kong took the biggest hit since they had the most to lose. Hong Kong's financial woes and job market are being blamed on China by the Hong Kong youth but it was destined to happen as soon as China opened up its economy to the world even if Hong Kong remained in British hands. Yes, Hong Kongers are wary of communism and the CCP's tight grip on its citizens but look at Macau. Their economy is fine and you don't hear a peep from them, theres no doubt in my mind that Hong Kong's economy is the main driving force behind this youth revolution. Its unfortunate how things turned out but I think that the youth of Hong Kong would have been better off trying to join the Mainland job market and even considering moving to China in search of better opportunities rather than restricting themselves by choice to only working and living in Hong Kong. Shenzhen, Shanghai, Beijing are all world class cities that are on par with Hong Kong, Tokyo, Singapore and Seoul. But I get it, Chinese Mainlanders can be some real assholes and come off as obtuse and crude. Theres no easy solution and its truly regretful how Hong Kong's younger generation has to come to terms with what is essentially an unwinnable battle.
Actions speak louder than words. Since March 2013, Chan has been a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, a political advisory body in the People's Republic of China and a central part of the Chinese Communist Party's United Front system. Not only does he support the central government, he's a part of it.
As long as Chan does not participate in American politics, he is not a polarizing figure in the U.S.
Huh, never thought I'd say this but what Jackie Chan is doing is actually very smart... Clearly, he's at the top of the game and he knows what he is doing, in other words he's playing his cards just right!
@@mr.lostrythm7876 He's doing what is beneficial to him, so I guess I can't get mad at him for being selfish and making sure he and his family are taken care of. But in terms of human rights issues, he's doing the worst thing possible by opposing democracy and choosing to side with a authoritarian regime.
@@brucewayne4979 and you are bruce wayne...🙏🙏
@@brucewayne4979 Maybe he simple beliefs in it?
People always kinda ignore the reality that China does have an increasing living standard for those round about *one billion* Chinese. That the rebuild China in the last 100 years and transformed it from a Nation, which got bullied, to a Power House.
As people believed in Trump, in the Republicans, in Obama, in the Democrats and so on - People could really belief in the chinese System.
Hong Kong wanted independence from the 'evil Empire' yet a lot of them want to live in Britain nowadays. How the tables turn.
China should be proud of Him. He is revered and knows the western and diplomatic heart, wisely. Studentes...A good and wise 'elder' for advice.
Maybe he is hated at home Hong Kong. But he is definitely not hated in his bigger home China
Still not a good light though
Jackie Chan is just an actor. He act to whoever pay him. It happen in the past, present and future.
this comment is gold
thats it
Then why does he have strong opinions on politics ? If youre gonna criticize the protesters, you have to expect backlash
@Random Guy 2020 and still racist? Wow
why like why people need to say something like this and people believes it. jackie chan is proud chinese thats all.
Jackie Chan is not free. He has to go along with the program or his entire family will pay the price.
there is a darker side to his pro china support. Jackie Chans house in Beijing was seized, and stolen by the Chinese Government. The house where his daughter grew up, and family lives. If Jackie Chan goes against the CCP, he will likely lose all his family and belongings in China (even worse than a stolen home)
Bingo
not really.
thats wht i believe.
@@zhongxina6621 He "does not have" a daughter.
He had respect at one time in his life but as stars do finally show there true intentions
I still love me some Jackie and I know all the things people are saying about him, but remember, a man can say and do things to save face, but feel a completely different story on the inside. No one knows what that man's really thinking or how he's feeling. No one truly knows what things he may have had to give up and thoughts he had to silence. Who's to say his career wasn't threatened if he didn't say or do the right things? It's always simple for others to be disappointed when their heroes aren't as pristine in real life as they are in media, so please remember there's a defining line between the two and real life heroes seldom make clean choices to preserve their appearance and careers. Sometimes the ugly choices they've made were the only ones opened to them at the time.
@@dg594 Well man, I know it sounds tough, but ya never know what things happened to him while he was growing older. As a young man Jackie had a different view of life and liberties, but now that he's older and not as active anymore, they probably finally caught up with him and gave him "the choice". Screw the money, who knows what other threats if any the government issued. I hate hearing and seeing how your hero has greatly disappointed you, but there's always two sides to a conversation.
No one expects him to be perfect but no one cares how he's feeling inside if he's willing to throw his peoples freedom away for cash. He's outspoken support for a group who want to take freedom away from his country, if he's not criticized now when should he be.
@@devanman7920 Don't worry, his time will come. It's ugly now, but slowly you'll hear and or see of some comeuppance for his choices. I think one instance was his passing on the chance to be in Everywhere, Everything All At Once (probably got something mixed up and wrong XD). Michelle definitely deserved all the praise she got as the leading actress, but to hear that good news could've went to Jackie....now that's some form of karma. It could've been the role to revitalize his acting career, but the stars were against him.
Exactly, how do we know he's doing it for money? We don't, we don't know what sort of threats the ccp could have given him, maybe he's doing for him or his family's life. We don't know his situation
Chris Tucker ? Is this you ?....... sounds like it to me.
He was hated way before his fealty to China. He had numerous adulterous affairs, in one of which he had a daughter whom he publicly disowned while humiliating the mother of the child.
Whhhattt?!
@@joesmoe6947 That's what. Jackie Chan is an abhorrent man. He's the Bill Cosby, if not Harvey Weinstein, of Hong Kong.
@@kwokmanchung It's weird to say he's like Cosby or Weinstein cause he's not a rapist. I get that you mean in terms of how much he's hated tho
How do you prove that?
@@toukendanshiwarrior2846 What's to prove? He admitted to that in a press conference and said he made the same mistakes that "many men" make, just like any coward that got caught.
The guy talking about Jackie doesn't know what he's talking about. Jackie was always pro-China, even before 89. He considered living under British rule as being second rate citizen. Given the era he was born in he's also very conservative. There's no flip flop, he truly believes in strong rule by the CCP.
@David Lee What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?
@David Lee thats just Stockholm Syndrome. There was no democracy in HK under the British. Nothing has changed.
Those that would love to continue licking white boots can move to the UK and some of them are finding out it just means a different set of problems.
Loving your country doesn't mean loving your government. All us HKers know he was a vocal participant during the '89 demonstrations in HK in REACTION to Tianamen. And that student demonstration in Tianamen was directed at reforming the Chinese political system to achieve democracy. What indication is there that he was pro-China prior to '89? Just because he is anti-colonial like the rest of us?
True, imperialism is a terrible thing, but China is also guilty of promulgating it today with its soft power influence via the Belt and Road initiative and threats of invading Taiwan.
@@filthyfrancis945 exactly, this is where most people in China dont understand. They are taught that ccp equal Chinese.
Jackie Chan supported the students in Tiananmen square in 1989.
In Hong Kong he was known as a superstar (makes money but can’t go so far), does movies in Hollywood known as a comedian (makes lots of money but gets laughed for doing it), moves to China (gets rich and live comfortably). Somewhere along the line Jackie Chan turned full 180 and I think as an American we took him for granted. Plus Hong Kong is known for kung fu, music, and drama but can go to a limit due to popularity and population. China was able to give him the respect he wants and to live prosperity. I think if America gave him the respect he wanted, he would’ve move here to the US instead of China. It’s sad to hear that his values set with communist China but he chose his side and that’s all I can respect.
He was loved here in America so I don't know what you mean about us not respecting him unless you mean the horrible film industry ?
He was very good at telling funny stories and he did some funny scenes in his movies where we were supposed to laugh .
But he was certainly beloved and highly respected here .
When he would go on those evening shows like David Letterman everybody would pay attention to every word Jackie Chan said .
He was superstar but tied because of contract so he didn't really earn much from Hong Kong. Hong Kong made him famous but he didn't really get rich.
The people in the comments don’t seem to understand that the Peking Opera School that Jackie attended was in Hong Kong. When Jackie grew up it would be very difficult for a working class Hong Konger to visit Guangzhou, let alone go all the way to Peking
Hes being blackmailed by the Chinese government for his sons arrest.
Fuk u good ,u even better than the bbc
If Jackie Chan is anything, he is first and foremost, a patriot who loves his nation. If he genuinely believes that the CPC is a positive force for good in China, then he is right to believe so, for the CPC is indeed a boon for China, proven by the fact that under its leadership, more than 800 million Chinese have been lifted out of poverty in the last 40 years, and as of last year, poverty has been eradicated in the country. That is on top of the fact that the CPC industrialized the most populous country in the world, a backwards nation when it assumed leadership in 1949, turning China into a modern prosperous superpower that can rival the USA technologically. Who in the 1950s to 80s would dare imagined that China would one day achieve a level of technological advancement such as 5G as to make the USA declare a state of emergency over it? Or that China could compete with the USA in space exploration with the first soft landing on the far side of the moon, the first unmanned collection and retrieval of lunar soil, or the first Martial rover with lander mission?
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Enjoy your time in the concentration camp.
@@g.r.e.4867 LUL. Nice one there bud.
@@g.r.e.4867 Some are baseless propaganda the likes of Falun Gong Cult media (NTD and Epoch Times) BS. Others are unavoidable cost and sacrifices that has to be made as a backwards nation modernizes. Some are social problems that are a result of poverty and feudalistic traditions that are much worse in "democratic" countries the likes of India, Mexico, the Philippines and even South Korea whose society views women lesser than men. Others are political oppression which are justifiable under the principles of Machiavelli since a good man with good morals cannot be a good leader. As the great political philosopher himself put it, in order to be a good and effective political leader, one needs to learn how not to be good(against dissenters who desires to take power away from the leader and keep it for themselves).
You can make a list of negative stuffs about a regime, just as others like me can make a similar list with positive stuffs. For much of the Chinese population living today, they are more affected by the positive stuffs than the negative, which explains the higher approval ratings of the Chinese government in polls conducted not just by Chinese institutions, but neutral foreign ones as well. And when compared with other countries, China is doing better, which explains why hundreds of millions of tourists travel to foreign countries every year and more than 99.9% of them return to China. If China is really as horrible as you want me to believe she is, why would they choose to return? And wouldn't they not be permit to travel abroad or lack the financial means to do so in the first place? China is better than other countries is also evident by the fact that the younger generation of Chinese under 30 years of age becomes more patriotic and more confident of their country whenever they travel abroad as they can compare for themselves having personally been in both places. Not all instances are like that but mostly like that in general.
In the 70's, 80's & 90's Hong Kong movies were the greatest they ruled, the action scenes & creativity were incredible, it was a true golden era. Jackie's films now are terrible & his politics don't help. Hong Kong made him into the star he is today, but, he's jumped sides & being well well paid. However, to the original fans in that era we celebrated many other great Hong Kong stars other than just Jackie Chan. Like, Joey Wong, Brigitte Lin, Anita "RIP" Mui, Sam Hui, Ricky "RIP" Hui, Lam Ching "RIP" Ying, Samo Hung, Yuen Biao, Chingmy Yau, Cherie Chung, Leung Kar Yan, Lee Choi Fung & many many more.
Not really English movies ruled until Star Wars came out
@@ScarfaceRampage To me, that's kind of worse. In recent years, the biggest movies in the action genre were mostly Marvel or Star Wars with very little in variety. Granted, every decade had their stagnant phase but at least there were at least a few standouts.
lol , south korea has taken over the scene
why do you think HK protestors represent HK? The movie industry actors has ALWAYS supported the CPC, Donnie Yen, Jet Li, you name it, all of them are supporters of China. It's rather simple, they are Chinese.
"He does't know what he's talking about"
Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion that doesn't mean that they don't know what they're taking about.
3:58
Jackie chan is beautiful to us here in Tasmania Australia too. I love him, he has a right to be himself, if anyone lives in a different country for long enough of course they going to change, if people lived here in Tasmania Australia it's ultimate freedom, no one talks about politics, no one i have known in my 53 years, don't care where you're from, how much money you make, in one street you have poor, rich and middle class, that's just my street, that is what it's like all over Tasmania. There's a lot of help, but there are a lot of not nice people but you need to be involved with those people and Tasmania is very small, so you really need to want to be involved. I would never ever leave here for anything but i love everyone everywhere. But I'd be lying if i didn't say i was very scared China would easily kill us, so scared i wrote an email to where you apply for citizenship and said please don't kill us i have grandchildren, i am afraid the human race has forgotten we are all born the same way and we could all die the same way, instead of focusing on our differences we should be imagining what we could do as one human race, and how much we could help each other. Instead we seem doomed to be the cruelest most judgemental greediest living creatures on this planet. No other living thing destroys it's own kind the way we do. From big politics down to picking on one person like Jackie chan, i bet wild animals have each others backs, but humans, 😢no😔💔🐨🇦🇺.
Take it from somebody who’s been doing business in HK for over 15 years now. Jackie Chan has a lot of haters in HK but is still beloved by a lot of people here in HK.
I agree this is just dumb lol more ppl love him than hate him lol
Right!? I mean just because some people shout their opinion out loud, doesnt make it majority opinion. We now tend to pretend that noise in media reflect what people really think.
Yaass
some of these young Hong kongers are petty as hell over an issue that not even real lmao
some people can hate someone just because they have different political view.
People hate Communist and its supporter as if Democratic ideology is already perfect
Jackie Chan's flip flop on his world views probably has something to do with not wanting to be dead. Can't blame him for that.
lol, is this really what you think of him? Funny.
@@jasony486 yes, that's what I think. He was a pretty cool guy when he was living in Australia, (his parents had a restaurant not far from where I live) but after he moved back to China he didn't have a choice because "CCP is arsehole".
True
Jackie Chan has a history of being kidnapped when he was starting his career. I am pretty sure this was the doing of the CCP. It's not just about the money, I would think if he do not support the CCP, something bad will happen not just to him, but to his family as well.
People should know this. This is the tactic of the CCP.
I think Jackie is against the CCP but there is nothing he can do. And it's not worth risking his life and his family's. All we(free people) can do is not support the CCP.
He might be not even worried abt himself, he might be worried abt his family, its very easy to talk big.
@Black Bullet you insight is amazing and informative. I'm surprised you even knew how to spell "2".
(your bad grammar indicates that you might be CCP arsehole)
Chan is actually a realist who sees things as it is
Woah I didn’t know this. It’s still hard to dislike him because he’s been a part of my childhood. Lol
People say he's changed. I say he's always been himself - looking out for n.o.1 is all that has ever mattered.
Number 1 pays 500 people's wages
And he's the kindest to the most for no 1
yeah me too
On an individual level that's true but on a social level, once you CHOOSE to be a public figure, you have to act on behalf of the community, there's no way around it. I don't know about the West, but in Asian culture, holding a social position like Jackie Chan has heavy responsibilities, you are the Voice of the People , and you have to Act the part of that Voice. For him to turn his back on the Hong Kong movement like that, that is Treason to the Hong Kong populace.
his son was arrested for drug use, which is punishable by death in china. so i guess the ccp struck a deal with him so his son doesnt die
"The 5 starred red flag is respected worldwide."
LOL
Right? A damn joke 😂
you guys are brainwashed to hate China more than Muslims. Don't find it weird that your emotion tells you that a preemptive strike against china is necessary?
@@p46709394 we have reasons, not only "brain washed"
@@ashleyyu4418 yea... just like on the HK topic, the yellow side have their very good reasons to call the vandalism + arson = peaceful protests. Simply because the CCP is so evil, so the action of the yellow group in HK is justified.
@@ashleyyu4418 and then, the yellow vest in France got punished by law, we don't see any sanction against France.
Pro-China stuffs like this i say on youtube, people will actually call me a wumao.
This is the world we are living in, and the majority thinks it is normal.
Was Chiang Kai-shek truly better than Mao, guys? Lots of people seem to have different thoughts and feelings, I am so confused. :(
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
Hate him or Love him, Jackie Chan will go down as a Stunt Legend!!!
Fax
Yeah he is that can't be forgotten
I remember Hitler too
@@chibiemo100 dont think he was a stunt legend tho...😅
A stunt man with no actual martial art talent
Jackie Chan was never Pro-democracy lmoa he’s just a movie action star. Unfortunately he has to go along with the Chinese government at all time.
Welp, that's the China's Tyrant Thing-Gy
If Jackie Chan is anything, he is first and foremost, a patriot who loves his nation. If he genuinely believes that the CPC is a positive force for good in China, then he is right to believe so, for the CPC is indeed a boon for China, proven by the fact that under its leadership, more than 800 million Chinese have been lifted out of poverty in the last 40 years, and as of last year, poverty has been eradicated in the country. That is on top of the fact that the CPC industrialized the most populous country in the world, a backwards nation when it assumed leadership in 1949, turning China into a modern prosperous superpower that can rival the USA technologically. Who in the 1950s to 80s would dare imagined that China would one day achieve a level of technological advancement such as 5G as to make the USA declare a state of emergency over it? Or that China could compete with the USA in space exploration with the first soft landing on the far side of the moon, the first unmanned collection and retrieval of lunar soil, or the first Martial rover with lander mission?
@@user-fd3ld9qc7d It's CCP chinese bot. If you want to spam at least do it correctly.
@@phucanhtran1980 Please teach me how to do it correctly.
3 days ago, Hong Kong actor comedian Richard Ng Man-tat (Wu Mengda) succumbed to liver cancer and passed away. This is sad. The last blog he posted on Weibo is saying that "I am a Chinese" together with a picture of China's national flag. This drew him a lot of hate remarks from anti-China haters, scorning him even in his death.
Ng man-tat's patriotic stance shows that not only Jackie Chan identifies as Chinese, loves his country and is proud of China. Others like Donnie Yen, Andy Lau, Stephen Chow and Louis Koo are all patriotic Hong Kong actors/directors.
Rest in peace Uncle Tat. May you be heaven where the scorns and hates of those anti-China haters never reach you. You will be remembered and loved.
as a hongkonger I don't give a shit about if he's supporting communism or democracy, I just like him as he is because he is humble
how dare you say jackie chan is a proud communist but did you ever forget japan invaded china when the marco polo invent happen. he is reflecting back to where he was
He's an actor, nothing more.. just a person. He's allowed to believe whatever messed up nonsense he wants to believe.
This isnt about his opinion.
Its about his working for the Communists.
This is refreshing. I don’t know why people are seeking an ally or a hero, this man is an actor. So he is free to ‘work for the communists’ or ‘work for pro- Democratic Party’. Mind you I’m not condoning nor condemning his actions. I just think people shouldn’t misplace their focus. Malcolm X spoke about how the black community in America looked for hero’s in entertainers and how misplaced it is. I just don’t like the trend I’m seeing in the world where we place over-importance on the beliefs of entertainers.
he is not an ordinary guy with no weight on public. He entitles whatever lunatic ideas he believes. If he keeps all the nonsense himself that would be perfectly fine. But he is actively helping CCP to hurt hongkonger and Chinese people. that’s the point
@@joshuasheni3093 this is true he can believe whatever he wants but hes also open to criticism. It goes both ways.
Sounds like jackie turned into a Chinese version of Anti Protest Trump Supporter. Lol
Who ever said money can't change someone, never had enough.
Money doesn't change people, it only unlocks characters that were jailed by poverty.
@@damirbabic8168 exactlyyyyyy
it is not about money, if money change you so easy then maybe you are not a good person in the first place
@@yt_naecohk there is no such thing as a good person
What if he did not change but just showing his true colour.
Thank You for sharing, i don't tend to listen to power brokers in countries, i listen to the People. So often because people entertain politics as Truth, they then hate on everyone with blanket statements & i have listened to Peoples thoughts & feelings all over the world so because of this i can Love "The People" & support them.
I am from Hong Kong . I don’t give a s » » » about his personal life . He is a good actor and that matters .
Yes exactly. They are hating on him for knowingly reasons. I am a big admirer of Jackie chan. Watching his movies and interviews on his career doesn't mean we have to love his personal life and his opinions like someone said in the comment section of this.
“Die a hero or live long enough to become a villain”
The dark knight
I am Chinese, I like Jackie Chan, Jackie Chan is our Chinese "big brother". In fact, there are many people who support Jackie Chan in Hong Kong. Some people who oppose him are young people of the new generation in Hong Kong. They usually have no income or jobs, so they hate society and the Communist Party. Jackie Chan's original intention was only to want peace in Hong Kong. The video should also show the Chinese and Hong Kong people who support Jackie Chan.
@@dadadajiang3248 Lol. Bias much.
@@dadadajiang3248 hey im chinese too and im not brainwashed like you. Fuck CCP
@@dadadajiang3248 shut up stop spamming this in every reply
@@FelixMartono America is no better right
Jackie Chan knows what he's talking about, what he's doing. China is his bread winner, his movie makes 1 million times more in China than Hong Kong.
JC is already rich, money's not the problem for him. JC is old enough to experience British rule over HK. Contrary to what people say, HK never had any democracy during British rule as well. I suggest you read history or ask old people of HK about it. So JC is just proud to be a Chinese and believes that HK is part of China too.
@@alainsutanto Which is True HK is part of China. 👍👍👍
@@TheEviliser
Hong Kong is Hong Kong - maybe if everyone used their own assholes to poop - it would level out nice?
I agree with you 100%. What benefit does it bring him to be Pro-HK? None. People need to stop looking at things from their own perspective
alain sutanto Nah JC also supported that Hoàng Sa and Trường Sa belongs to China and let me tell you. Sike my ngga try us Vietnamese. Touch them fucking islands we’ll fuck you up like before in history :). Was a big fan of JC till I heard about the news.
I grew up watching his early movies in China Town I SF way before he was famous in the US. Same with Jet Li.
So this video explains that these few people don't like Jackie Chan because of his politics, and he doesn't like them because of theirs. 🤷🏻♂️
Didn't know this about Jackie Chan. Does anyone know what happened to Chow Yun Fat? I used to love The Killer and A Better Tomorrow etc
The fact that the CCP that he apparently "loves " so much were going to take his property/properties etc makes me believe his pro CCP stance is more to appease the CCP and not lose his wealth.
Typical CCP behavior
He could have moved his assets out and left. He has enough to retire very comfortably. He chooses to continue working with the CCP.
@@naguoning f a m i l y. Surveillance. N o e s c a p e. See the big picture yet?
@@denrimi I mean he could have moved to a safe Western country or Taiwan. He chooses the CCP. He is a horrible sell out. If good people don't stand up the CCP wins. He is not a good person.
@@naguoning I think you guys are painting him wrong. He’s a China man. He doesn’t want to live anywhere else. And he doesn’t want the CCP to rob him either. Im greek. If the greek government threatened to rob me, id say whatever as well. Jackie Chan is a movie star not political figure.
Jackie Chan: Who am I part 2.
We need that book ASAP!!!
The Hong Kong English accent actually sounds really nice
I remember reading a book on Jackie chan when i was a kid. I believe it was an autobiography... and man there was so much in it. Seeing where Jackie is today doesn't surprise me. Jackie has teetered an edge in life of seeing so many different aspects of cultured many of us couldn't imagine- you have to remember alot of people in Hong Kong back in his time was very anti-foreigner. And rightly so Hong Kong's acquirement by the UK was straight up colonization and led to alot of loss of life and violence~ but as it became a colony/territory and major outlet of trade- it led to a boom in cultures and economy for the people living there~ it was like living in two unique kingdoms at once.
Jackie has always expressed in his movies and from the few quotes he ever professed a strong 'Pro-China' stance, and he is very proud of his heritage. I'm not sure if Jackie is well known of the horrors committed by his own government~ I'm almost entirely sure he does cause of his family background but he probably sees evil everywhere so why not stick with someone he's familiar with.
In the End there is alot of dirty laundry on all sides Democracy, communism, Dictatorships w/e. But i do agree with what was said toward the end of the video~ true art ,expression, and many human rights cannot be enjoyed without better allowances of Free speech- that goes for everwhere. But let's not pretend that there are no censorships here in the west either~ there are some 'freedoms' or 'speeches' you can explore and will straight up land you on a terrorist watch list or just in the ire of government officials.
well said
In México we have a similar situation. The actor is called "Eugenio Derbez". Used to be loved by millions, now is hated by majority for helping the corrupt system that used to be held in Mexico for more than 70 years. He still appears in USA movies because they try to use his fame to attract latin audiences but he is so fucking evil. Which is ironic because he is mainly a comedy actor.
That's a trend we have one in Senegal his name is Youssou N'Dour he is part of the government and is a puppet that is guilty of tax evasion. But he is a famous singer worldwide so he doesn't care
YO WHAAAAT I DID NOT KNOW THIS
Damn, used to watch him in my childhood but now learning this, smh everyone i admire turns out to be trash on the inside
Nadie lo odia wey de qué hablas
Once this dude died, just don't remember him like what happened to the secret antagonist on Coco
This makes me sad. As an Australian kid he was one of my action movie heroes. I must have watched “Rumble in the Bronx” at least 50 times. And to think that his family fled communist China, and now he supports it!? What the hell happened to you Jackie?
stuff change. so do people, i think?
Money talks that's why, a low life sells human rights for his pocket.
Money tastes good.
He became a grumpy old man who was miserable after a while!
Well to be fair, does he really have much of a choice? China and the cental governing apparatus of the CPA is very powerful and they have heavily invested or threatened or compromised leading political and commercial figures in the west and elsewhere ( cough Joe Biden...cough cough Hollywood...NBA etc). Additionally, Chan's son was arrested in mainland China and put in a Chinese jail. Besides, whats the point anyway? The so called western liberals are hand in gloves with the ideas of the CPA and dare you protest for any national sovereignity, you are according to the political left ( eg: Democrat party of USA) a right wing fascist terrorist.
Chan sees the tide moving and he has no choice but to survive by supporting the dominant side. Not that I agree with him, but I can kinda understand his dilemma.
Poor Jackie Chan thinking of what happened to Jack Ma😂😂
That was a very interesting video thank you for the video
hes probably saying it to protect his career and life
And his son who's served 6 month prison time in China for marijuana possession.
Of course, appeal to a city of 8 million, or a country of almost 2 billion?
@@jojotwice8918 it’s about 1.4
Well saying nothing is best not to knife in the back
The only thing he is protecting is his bank balance.
I agree that his older movies are a lot better, the newer ones are not great.
Because his old now, u fake fan
Of course he has so many injuries and he do all his stunts so it has taken a toll on his body 🙄
These lazy agenda driven Rioters are against any successful person or business and they will burn any old folks. Lazy rioter like that fat unhygienic bearded weird only care with free stuff and they stay living with their parents because they don't want to have real jobs.
Can't do the same movies forever, am I right?
he's 66 now he's old he can't do a lot of action movies anymore haven't U noticed how many injuries he got from making movies
I always love jackie chan. From thick and thin. I always stand with Jackie chan
I love Jackie l love HK l love China
This is the first time I heard jackie chan speak chinese
rush hour
You never seen any of his films then, have you?
damn boi sorry but yu aint a real fan la.
@Luis Serrano I watched his movies in spanish as a kid lmao
3 days ago, Hong Kong actor comedian Richard Ng Man-tat (Wu Mengda) succumbed to liver cancer and passed away. This is sad. The last blog he posted on Weibo is saying that "I am a Chinese" together with a picture of China's national flag. This drew him a lot of hate remarks from anti-China haters, scorning him even in his death.
Ng man-tat's patriotic stance shows that not only Jackie Chan identifies as Chinese, loves his country and is proud of China. Others like Donnie Yen, Andy Lau, Stephen Chow and Louis Koo are all patriotic Hong Kong actors/directors.
Rest in peace Uncle Tat. May you be heaven where the scorns and hates of those anti-China haters never reach you. You will be remembered and loved.
same for his movies, earlier movies were dope and later were trash
Yes Hollywood and Chinese mainland politics become terrible and disaster for Jackie Chan.... You make film in Hollywood its mean money and forget the art of film.... If you make film in Chinese mainland its mean politics pro communism....
Because most of his latest movie produced by China production.
Not trash mediocre
Due to China Communists Party !
That would be because of directors not being exactly good at what they're doing. Also because they are pressured to make a bigger return in less time, a good movie while cutting down on shooting time bc shooting is expensive. The movies are good, not great. And this is the crux of most hollywood movies. This video : ua-cam.com/video/Z1PCtIaM_GQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=EveryFrameaPainting shows how Jackie Chan was able to do really good action scenes while also making it memorable and exciting, keeping the audience entertained bc you don't know what's going to happen next in a fight. Another video : ua-cam.com/video/ybYsElQD2o4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheCloserLook
The 2nd video and the 1st video hammer in a point, keep the fights engaging but most importantly, organic. You can tell a person he kept shooting bad guys in x scene but what Chan was able to do, bc he was given the time & budget, was to make the fights feel organic. An example is: during the fight, x was pushed into some construction equipment, where x picked up a shovel and used it like ...
If you make the fight organic, the scene will be more engaging because not only was we becoming more and more impatient, and more wondering. If a fight scene doesn't engage us for long, our eyes & mind will wander elsewhere. In hollywood movies there is kind of a paradox, you will pay attention to a dialogue scene bc it might be important to the plot, giving important information about the current situation and how the protagonist is going to deal with it. Writers spend countless hours pouring over a script, making sure it entertaining and engaging BUT not enough attention (imo) is given to the action sequences in a film. Because if the actor is just punching someone, in the script, we will just see it as a punch from x to y, but if there good acting on the actors part, it will result in a better scene! Take for instance: as x punched y, y doubled over and started puking out his breakfast, as opposed to as x punched y, y slightly doubled over as he winced in pain. They both covey a punch to the gut but 1 is more engaging & impactful, while the other just coveys it. A video on the Making Of Full Metal Jacket (here: ua-cam.com/video/XRkyKYz5SYM/v-deo.html) conveys it splendidly, at 15:40 basically encompasses everything im trying to say.
TL DR: Hollywood editors and directors are shit in creating an engaging organic fight scene. They make unnecessary cuts in a scene while not understanding what makes a good fight scene good. A fight scene can be cut and still look ok but it will be great if we can see everything because we will see the hit, the process of the hit landing and the end result. Not about to hit, cut, action of hit.
Ps: look at ANY fight video thats on the internet! If you dont see the hit landing followed by their immediate reaction, would it feel the same? I also know that I'm conveying my point somewhat poorly so take my words with a grain of salt
He's not a Traitor He's just Patriot and loyal to his nation
The chinese COMUNIST PARTY is not a nation dumba$ss.
I love Jackie Chan
I love Jackie Chan, I used to watch the old Drunken Master movie with Sam Seed everyday after school when I was a kid.
It's such a shame. Jackie Chan might be one of, if not, the only Hong Kong celebrities that can stand up to the Chinese government due to his immense popularity worldwide. The fact that he still chose to support it is really sad
I remember watching the jackin chan cartoon on saturday mornings as a kid in the US. He is a great actor. No matter his views ,as a american i only recognize him for his talent. Its upto the hong kong people to dislike him as they are his brethren.
I wonder what his relationship with Sammo Hung is like today and whether Sammo Hung shares Jackie Chan's political views. Or Yuen Biao for that matter.
hong kong: we hate jackie chan
entire world: we love jackie chan.
Ikr he is great
@Nurhayat Leon Guerrero not everyone has great taste at movies....its okay.😅😂
@Nurhayat Leon Guerrero You need some milk, my brother!! 🍼🍼🍼
@Nurhayat Leon Guerrero shut up
True. We love Jackie Chan
People often forget that a lot of celebrities especially actors are simply entertainers, it's their job. At the end of the day, they still have their own feelings and opinions about life and politics. After all, we're only human. I get that it's hard to appreciate someone's work when you don't share the same outlook on many aspects of life. Still, Jackie Chan has a bigger legacy than 99% of people that like and dislike him.
That's the point if you have a big status, you're expected to do something good with it instead of crumbling on the feet of the CCP
agree with what u said, however a legacy is wasted when its used to subjugate a society.
There's a difference between being a womanizer and having bastard children you refuse to accept and supporting a communist party in the midst of genocide...
@@AnandKumar-ol2uw especially when these peoples legacies are based on the fact the ppl like them. so how can you just sit n “entertain” while simultaneously going against those ppl just for the sake of being “neutral” to some. Like no fuck his his views great movies but like you said what a waste.
I completely agree, there shouldn't be an expectation for entertainers other than to entertain people. Anything beyond that like their personal life, their political views, or their influence over the people shouldn't be used to judged their legacy to the world.
Basically you can hate the man but you can't hate the arts.
Never been a Jackie Chan fan but I've watched some his movies when there was nothing to watch, but it's like Jackie Chan said, on Enter the dragon poster it was BRUCE LEE on top then on the bottom with a tiny little letter that said jackie chan. This will never change!
05.11 Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee on screen together! About, 6 Students from Hong Kong, joined us for Bachelor level academic studies! With, 1 Chinese student, 1 from India. That made, 8 students, from The Far East. 1 student, from the USA, was there. British team, was about, 5 kids, and 5 mature British Students who finnished that year! Two Africans, also started, plus 4 lads, who needed to repeat a year. Plus there two women, who were, part time, or so shy. I never knew them well.
I also worked part time, and got so fed up, and worn out by all the study, for no pay. So, stressed out.
So annoyed by the people that were there, just messing around. I tried to get, a good degree. I scraped a great pass, at higher National Diploma level. But, that last year, everything started going wrong. So, I just cruised into a 2nd Class degree, which was not really enough for a Research job. Probably, enough to gain a place, on a Master's Degree. But, I got fed up, of that Philosophy, that, I just did not believe in.
I believed that, it was wrong to persue a passion. Where, as a student. There's no pay. I guess, we were there to learn how to be Teachers. So, maybe. I failed. I never wanted. That, anyway.
Just money and, kids.
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Jackie probably changed his views about Honk Kong when he left it and saw the world and all that it has to offer. His life of fame, recognition and success is something that he may not be willing to sacrifice for a place to which maybe he is not so attached anymore. As an actor he may compare the pros and cons of being pro China against being por Hong Kong, and in economic and freedom terms, the choice is obvious. Unfortunately for Hong Kong, he is not the 'hero' that they expected. That's only in the movies. Real life is a different thing.
you mean a hypocrite.
He likes the money and power.
@@thatone8085 oh boy you're so wrong. Anyone who know the history of China and people of honk kong understand the reallity. They were the only area of china who wasn't starving. The people in Honk kong enjoy more freedom and development than the rest of the country for a lot and thanks to them and massive pacific rebellion in the small towns the communist party did big changes giving space to open markets and private enterprise.
@@thatone8085 +100000000 social credit points
Eliminate the Chinese Communist Party.
I respect Jackie Chan as a martial artist and a actor.
@ASAP.69 lol, a smart actor would chose to venture into china market
@ASAP.69 Jackie Chan is a partiot, he lived under biritsh colonialism. you are really brainwashed if you think he supports the gov only because he is paid or threatened, not because the genuine loves his country
Me too. I respect Jackie Chan as he works very hard to earn his reputation. The pro democracy haters are disgusting.
personally, i believe the man doesn’t have any choice but to comply, it’s China after all and it’s not like America where you can talk shit about the president.
@ASAP.69 BS ...he's a sitting member of the CCP ! BETRAYED HK people ! Two faced Hypocrite !
He still popular to Philippines we loved Jackie Chan
TF I love Jackie Chan now???!!!