2AZFE engine is a great engine and typically operates into the 300k-400k miles. Change the oil every 5000 miles or 6 months to avoid issues and use a good 5w-30 oil. The first issue did have a TSB and owners were taken care of by Toyota and they extended the warranties for those vehicles. The fix is fairly easy and an advanced DIY person can do the job. Time Cert repair kits were used for warranty repairs and did not void the vehicle warranty (when I was working) they were as good as the original, and I have never seen one fail or personally heard of one failing. The bad piston design was mainly an issue with the oil rings designed to give better fuel economy, which is also why they switched the 5w-30 to the 5w-20. They made a special kit that included new pistons, rings, and squirters that included all the gaskets necessary to resolve the issue however that isn't a DIY repair. While this engine had its issues... it is very easy to work on, depending on the vehicle it is in, and extremely reliable. When I got rid of my Dodge neon it had 424,000 miles but I spent 10x the time and money on maintenance and preventative repairs than I would have on this engine. By the way, Dodge had a similar rear head bolt problem causing head gasket issues, the rear bolt holes were not deep enough from the factory. Every vehicle manufacturer has issues, but at the end of the day, this is one of the most reliable 4-cylinder engines I have ever seen. How many 4-cylinder vehicles have you seen with 300-400k miles on an original engine with only regular maintenance? Just my personal opinion.
I'm considering the Alphard Van 2003 - 2007 model with this engine in it, but I know that around that time, Toyota was also touting the oil service intervals were now at 15,000 k's, which is when a lot of engine damage is done early on... hence my hesitation on this engine, the head bolt problem and the oil burning problem. Most people follow the company recommendations not knowing any better not being mechanically minded... so the van I want quite possibly has had this extended oil service interval performed, not the better 5k mile / 8k km I do all the time on my old 5sfe camry.... The 1MZ FE motor has its own possible problems and the timing belt will be a mission in that van / people mover setup, not much working room, if you know the Alphard engine bay setup. What would you recommend yourself, still stick with the simpler 4 banger design or the V6 1MZ FE??? Cheers
350K on mine. This engine is among the simplest to work on. Did everything myself. Only oil changes every 5K miles and changed the cover gasket once. Top tier engine.
I have over 288,000 miles on my 2AZ-FE engine and it still runs like a champ. I did started using Restore engine oil additive which has helped out tremendously. Not sure what's so bad about this engine. It's a very reliable engine in my opinion.
My 2006 Camry has zero oil consumption between 3,500 mi synthetic oil changes with the correct grade of oil. If you guys follow those instructions you'll never our problems with this motor. It's a great engine but it's not designed to be owned by idiots.
I have an 09 camry with the 2az-fe eng..482,068 miles at the moment. Sure, it burns oil and there are things to do to mitigate the oil consumption, but I'm still driving it to this day. Original engine, transmission... water pump... drive belt. What other car can you say this about? I love this thing. And nearing half a million miles, it's still fun to drive!
My friend has a 09 Vibe with the 2AZ and has 300,000 hard commuter miles on his. It burns a little more oil than most, but it's a solid engine and feels better than the 1.8
Our 2009 Camry with 2AZ-FE currently has 106,000 miles. We keep records and changed oil every 3,500 to 5,000 miles. I started changing the oil myself at 83,000 miles using Mobil-1 Synthetic 0w20. It currently burns 1/2qt every 2,500 miles, but when I change the oil it still has a nice amber color. We purchased this Camry new and the only maintenance is Gas, Oil, Battery and Tires, other than that I just recently replaced the Spark Plugs and Air Filter. Engine Bay looks brand new, no rust or engine leaks and Engine has never been washed. Always garage kept. So far this Camry has been a great vehicle. I'm "Toyota impressed" even if the 2AZ-FE is not the best Toyota engine.
Unfortunately, you are living in the past. The Swiss Watch Toyota engines of the 80s & 90s are no longer being made. Modern Toyota engines now need to be researched. Was it built on a Monday? Was it built in the USA or Japan? How much plastic has been used in order to satisfy Government EPA MPG mandates? Peace.
We have an 09 2azfe with 166000 and it runs well but does use a lot of oil. Runs very well but I do maintain it properly. Replaced the timing chain and related parts, took out and cleaned injectors at 160000m and doing the balance shafts this weekend to get rid of the low rpm lose gear rattle. She notifies me every 1k miles so I can top oil off.
@@foggyfrogman1 Is your catalytic converter basically gone and check engine light on? These engines will last as long as oil is check often with whatever oil you decide to maintain it with
This engine is so endurance and most of toyota cars fitted with this engine still running today in Asia jungle and Africa desert wth very minimum maintenance cost. Im still driving my Toyota MPV using this engine wth 300k km mileage wth no major problem so far.
I got 239,000 miles out of my 2002 Toyota Camry le before I sold it. I think I remember hearing only a small percentage of vehicles had the oil consumption problem. It was the best, lowest maintenance vehicle I have owned. Most of the parts were original from the factory when I sold it this year. Unless quality starts to drop off I don't think I will buy anything but Toyota. I did have to add a couple quarts of oil between oil changes but I think this was due to a leaky belt tensioner rather than internal engine damage. I had to add engine oil between oil changes to every vehicle I have owned. I did service it regularly. The vehicle started and ran like it did when I bought it back in 2005 at the time I sold it.
The older ones don't seem to have the issues described in this vid. I have an 04 Camry with 178k and it's fine. They only start to burn a ton of oil in ~2007
In 12000 km I burn less than a cup of oil on my car with almost 300k. And I'm more convinced some of it leaks past the turbo bearing into the intercooler. To add that much oil is pretty significant.
I have the same car and model: 2002 Camry 4 Cylinder and what they are known for is the head gasket bolts. I had my head gasket bolts worked on otherwise the car is a reliable beast.
350k on my awd matrix, the engine has never missed a beat. ran 0w20 every 10k all its life and the only engine work was plugs and serp belt. otherwise thats it, it's still going strong, it's my DD work vehicle
Have 2009 matrix awd. Bought new . nothing but trouble . fought with dealer many times and toyota . lied to me over and over. Then turned around and got letter saying it is being recalled. Then another dealer rebuilt. Jim Robinson in wheeling , wv. Sold me the car and run me off after calling me in on a teleconferance call insisting car was fine. Said they would put a used engine in it for 7500 $ .
I second this video. My 2009 Camry just blew a head gasket with internal damage and needs an engine replacement with only 55,000 miles on it. Diagnosis wast that the radiator leaked, there was no coolant, and a faulty temp reading system provided no warning sign. Engine seized in the middle of the highway. CHECK YOUR COOLANT OFTEN ON THIS ENGINE.
I tend to agree with your advice. Had a 2007 Camry that got the warranty repair at 85,000 miles. It was using a quart and a half in 1200 miles per dealership test. The car was driven mostly freeway miles, 80 miles per day five days a week. I had regular oil changes every 4,500 to 6,000 miles. That wasn't good enough to prevent the oil consumption problem. After the repair the engine ran fine.
I have a 2006 Camry Altise that my Parents owned and drove for the last 17 years until they recently decided to buy a new car, the engine has never had any of those problems show up, in fact, apart from the normal servicing the engine hasn't had to have any major work done to it, been the most reliable car my Parents owned, it's about to turn over 190 000Km (118 060Miles) hopefully it will continue to be as reliable.
My brother-in-law had a 2002 Camry with this engine. At 189,000 km (113,000 miles) the head bolts stripped out, coolant dumped into the cylinders and the engine was destroyed. It cost almost $9,000 to get the car back on the road. The dealer swore he'd never seen a failure like it (Toyotas run forever!) but the Toyota mechanic quietly said he saw quite a few of them. The engine had always been dealer-maintained, had its regular oil changes etc. The engine was going to self-destruct eventually, no matter how well looked after.
I have the 2AZ-FE 2.4-liter engine in my 2006 Camry. The car has 130,000 km on the clock and has never burnt a drop of oil. I change the oil every 5,000 km and drain and fill the transmission oil every 50,000 km. I have changed the coolant and water pump once.
That explains when I got my 09 Vibe last year, that oil burning situation existed, but once I put Chemtool B-12 before the oil change, put in 0w-20 full synthetic, the oil burning stopped within a few weeks, and haven't had that problem since.
My son still drives our 2004 manual shift camry with almost 200k miles on it. The only thing I've had to do is replace a valve cover gasket and leaky radiator along with 5th gear repair with a clutch (which is apparently fairly normal). Still the best driving car I've got... It is a Japanese made car... Don't know if that makes a difference, but I love this car.
I still drive my 2009 Camry with this exact engine. My country did not have a that service bulletin for the pistons. So, mine is left untouched since it rolled out of the showroom floor. In 12 years of ownership, I have zero problems with it. I just take care of it and it take cares of me.
2.4L 2AZ-FE:. Keep an eye on coolant level every week. Change water pump every ~three years. Change transmission oil every 60K miles. The 2.5L 2AR-FE (2008- current) is a way better engine. Peace.
Got 155k+on my 05 Camry. Runs like a top. Every once it a while if it been sitting in the cold there will be a puff of blue smoke,nothing more. Keep up on preventative maintenance religiously.
2011 toyota camry 2.4 L, driven 207000 KM, never had any issue. For the last 4 years I just changed engine oil and filter. Once the Crank seal was leaking so replaced it and that too 3 years ago. That's it. This is a pretty good engine. And no oil consumption till now. Running good.
Have this engine in my 2006 Scion TC. Just turned 178,000 miles and it doesn't burn a drop of oil. I always use Mobil 1 full synthetic for every oil change, and always do my oil changes between the 3k and 4.2k mile mark...no clue about the previous owner though (bought the car with 123,000 miles on it already). I also run a full bottle of Techron in it before each oil change. With good maintenance, this engine will last and last. I'm nearing 200k miles and still average 31+ mpg on the highway. Bulletproof.
My brother works on these Camrys (& other Toyotas), and according to his experience, it is the 2007 & up with the oil problems. I have bought 3 Camrys from him, and have not had any problems with oil consumption. The one I drive now has over 240,000 mi on it. I just changed the oil(at 5,000) and it was about ¼ qt low. I haven't added any oil to since the last change. I don't know if any engine work had been done before or not, and it is the original engine.(numbers match)
329k miles on mine ( 2005 camry )...doesnt burn a single drop....a real champion of an engine. there are some people with over 1M miles on it...one of toyotas best
2004. 2.4l.2azfe. camry.225000 miles. i used for several times, power steering oil, transmission oil, petrol/diesel engine oil of all grades 0w16 to 20w50, and it might be capable to use water without any issues. used it for more than 6 time to travel 2000 miles / 18 hrs per each without stop. used it in extreme harsh weather, 51 celuis/124 f° for 4 hours riding at 100 mph dust weather used in exceptional harsh weather 55 c°\ 130f° short intervals, found that i have a super cooling ac & super cooling engine system the greatest toyota/ lexus engine are those made between 1980 - 2007. each 1000mile i need to add half liter of oil. thats it. maintenance: 1 Oil pump 1 tensioner pully 1 radiator 2 radiator fan motors regular spark plugs/ air filter/ oil change Thank you.
I have a 2003 camry with this engine and auto transmission. It doesn't use any oil between 5,000 km change intervals. It doesn't get thrashed, gets a minute or two when cold started to allow the oil to circulate and has never missed a beat. It's about to get a new water pump as it's weeping from the tell tale hole, but that's just routine maintenance. Still runs quietly with plenty of power and will return 700km from a tank of fuel.
My mum had an 07 Camry that had this engine. For 12 years that she owned the car, there were no signs of any oil burning. The car just had regular servicing from our family mechanic, and it never once lost a drop of oil. That's why I'm surprised to find the amount of oil-burning issues that this engine had. Maybe we got lucky with this Camry.
Has this engine in my 2004 camry I bought new. Sold it at 130,000 miles with never a problem. Had a defective belt tensioner at 24k miles and the intermediate steering shaft clunked. Recalled in about a million Sienna's. Before that bought a new 1998 Camry V6 the claimed had issues. at 160,000 it was perfect except for the valve cover gaskets leaking. Teh annoying thing was the defective strut bushgings, the suspension was horrible. Replaced my 2004 Camry with a new 2009 Hyundai Sonata I am still driving today and is the best car I have ever owned. It runs and drive like the day I bought it over 12 years ago!
Great video! I have a 2002 Japan build with a 5 speed and do a lot of preventative maintenance on it, especially on the cooling system. I run a scan gauge 2 and keep my eyes on those coolant temps. 190* is the highest I’ve seen it go, but it’s usually at ~175* in normal driving. Overall it’s a great car and I enjoy driving it on long trips and hope to keep it going.
Toyota redesigned the block for the 2007 to fix the head bolt failure my 07 burns oil but I added a oil cooler to increase oil capacity I think its a great engine
have a 2AZ-FE in 2002 camry that the kids beat the heck out of. But still runs good at 250k. Burns oil (a quart every 500?) but figured that was because some kid in college wasnt changing oil for a long time. Once it was driven from LA to bay area with only a quart in the sump but somehow survived, and that made me think its actually a pretty tough engine. And I do know someone had the head bolts pull; it got fixed pretty ok with inserts from top.
353000 miles on my scion 2.4vvt-i no recalls done. Yes its a 2AZFE. Burns oil but not alot. Its a very easy engine to maintain, its a workhorse... one of Toyotas easiest DYI engines.
keep the oil changed so the rings won't get clogged up and start burning oil..If the head bolts lift install timesert head bolt kit..great running motor when you know how to take care of them.. my new 2.4 engine never goes past half on the temperature gauge..
this whole thing about cooling system . what I did with the plastic/metal radiator at 90k miles is take it out and replace it with a 2 core all metal rad.I have 270k on mine now with these toyotas it is very easy to do, it's not a VOLVO folks!
We have 2004 camry 2.4l xle in family for 10 years now. It has 165000 miles now and have some oil consumption, but no major problems with engine yet. Alternator and starter had problems, but not the engine itself. This engine is very heat loaded, this i can confirm. We change oil every 5000 miles.
Scott I don’t know what he’s talking about the two AZF. He is a workhorse the little engine will go 250,000 3000 miles if you just do your simple maintenance.
Well Stephen, I went and did it LOL. Got a project car, 2003 Camry with this engine. The radiator was leaking, the heater core was leaking too. Engine is solid and doesn't burn oil. Has 281K miles. I bought it as a project/flip car. Replaced the radiator, thermostat and the heater core. That's when I noticed the leak in the back of the engine under the intake. No coolant in the cylinders and plugs and compression are good so it's not the head gasket. It has to be the head bolts. LOL. So, guess what I am going to do this spring? Yup, pull the head off and do the dance with the devil LOL. I am decent DIY, done plenty of deep dives but not this deep yet. I was thinking of doing a redneck solution and silicon seal the leaking area between the head and block, but I better do it right. Love those projects.
When you consider how many millions of vehicles sold with these engines, only a small percentage failed. Also re years, from 09 on they had modified internals, slightly higher compression. So 09 on, well maintained should be no problem.
I have a 2005 Camry 2.4L and still driving it every day, it has over 410,000 km in the clock, and yes it has a coolant issue just like the rest, I keep to top up the coolant, but it is never overheated and still running very well. I will think it may go another 100,000 km into 500,000 km as long as I keep topping up the coolant in the rad.
@@taz24787 the coolant has an external leak from the head gasket due to the strip cylinder head bolt. as long as you keep the coolant fill, you can keep driving it .
@@3819144 Ohhh, got it. Thank you!! I am looking at a 2005 Camry to buy right now as my first automatic transmission car. But when I road tested it, the gears were not answering well and at high speed it seemed to lack force. As an experienced owner, do you know if this may be small or BIG issues? Also, when turned on, the engine blows air through the opened oil cap hole. Not enough pressure to push my hand, but it does blow. Is that normal for this engine? Thanks once again!
yea most mechanics say its a very reliable engine can go many miles, easy to work with, however, if it does not bother you adding oil every 2K miles and changing your oil on time. It's cool. and you're correct, once you know of a problem, fix it. to avoid cooking the engine. Some say the oil burning was 2007-2008 but apparently it is in the 2009 bc it has this same engine apparently. Thanks for video
He’s clearly never driven or been in a Scion tC. It’s actually pretty fast especially with the 5 speed manual transmission. Def not as fast as a wrx but 0-60 in sub 8 seconds is pretty good for a car in its class and the gas mileage is great too. I have one and it does in fact push me back to the seat so there you go.
A wrx isn’t exactly fast either. The Tc probably does the 1/4 in around 16-17 seconds at best. Compared to any real sports car or sedan…it’s slow. Hell, my TRD Camry hits 60 in under 6 seconds and the 1/4 around 14 and while yes it puts me back in the seat, it’s by no means a fast car.
my lil bro had a 2AZ-FE Camry from 03 and it lasted till 230k. He was moving from Cali to Texas and i tagged along with him on the drive. 100 miles away from el paso at 3:00 am, the engine suddenly seized :/. didn't realize that it would burn thru all the oil after a fresh oil change >:o but it lived a hard life.
THESE ARE EXCELLENT ENGINES, I SERVICE TOYOTA VEHICLES, I SEE THESE ENGINES MANY APPROACHING 500 k ,SECRET IS KEEP FLUIDS CHANGED ,AND DO YOUR MAINTNANCE
2008 Camry 2AZ-FE: Short block replaced 45K miles, alternator 110K, rear backing plates rusted 120K, radiator/water pump/hoses 130K, complete OEM engine mounts 145K, power steering lines 145K. Highly recommend Mobil 1 0W-20 20K extended and I do BG's oil change EPR/MOA/44K every 5K miles, uses 1/2 quart oil, change trans fluid every 60K miles. Dash panel sticky/cracked, there's an expired TSB about this, can do a cover or just use Meguire's interior cleaner. Definitely the V6 is better, hope to drive this one to the ground, should get 100K miles. Just changed to a cheaper Walker exhaust as the OEM rusted out (Midwest road salt). Best: change oil max 5K/6mos, PCV regularly. If you live close to Homer Glen, check out TCCN UA-cam channel. Balance shafts have minor noise. Japan made Toyota's are much better.
Fell in love with my polished turd of a camry. I was under the impression it consumes oil because of the valve stem seals. I'm at 285k miles. It sounds like it's going to rattle itself apart and honestly didn't expect it to last but that was damn near 150k miles ago. I add about a full quarter a month. Still gets 28 mpg. I change the oil every 2500 miles
I’ve got a 2007 w this engine. Guess I just got lucky. 205k and counting. No problems. Never added an ounce of extra oil. When we first bought it, wife had a long daily commute +50 miles per day. Don’t know if that helped?
My ‘02 Camry has this engine, and has burned 1qt. per 1000 miles-for the last 100K miles. The engine is completely original, except for a couple of valve cover gasket replacements, and routine coolant, oil, filter, and plug replacements, and now has 314K miles on it. Starts and runs smoothly. The exhaust system has been replaced once because of salt-related rust, not because of any oil-burning catalytic converter issues. My mechanics’ guidance has been spot-on: “Add oil, and keep on driving.” I would avoid the ‘07-‘09 editions of this engine, but my earlier one has been fine.
@@jordandudgeon346 No. I think as long as I keep the cooling system in good shape, and it doesn’t overheat at all, they’re not a problem. 327K miles now, and still being daily-driven by my son.
Thanks! Man some people are so negative about this engine. They make it sound like the head bolt stripping the block is inevitable. I just bought one with 85000 miles and I was nervous to find out about head block issues after, but I think if I take care of it I'm good. People are being unrealistic I think, pretending the head block issue is more common than it is. Do you think it happens to most of these, or just a small portion?
@@jordandudgeon346 Dunno-I have a sample size of 1. But if I was in the market for a bargain in a used car, a private sale of a known-low-mile pre-‘07 Camry w/the 2AZ-FE, preferably from an elderly, maintenance-fussy driver, would be on my shopping list. And they’re out there-hopefully, you got one of those.
I got one with 85,000 miles for $8,500 Canadian Dollars (so about $6000 USD). The outside is in perfect condition, not a scratch, the inside is mint, the console still smells new on the inside, drives great, no issues, doesn't burn oil, and oil stays gold for a long time in the engine... I'm sure the man was mantnaince fussy, as it's in great shape. The hood says the tyranny was flushed at 80,000miles and the coolant was flushed at 60,000miles. I'm the third owner, but really I'm the second. The first owner was an old man who sold it because he couldn't drive anymore. The second was a younger man who took good care of it but only had it for 2 months and then sold it to me as he was moving. I really hope I got a good deal, and hope it lasts. Don't want to run into this head block issue! Besides that I don't have any concerns for the reliability of this engine!! Think I got an okay deal?
I have a Camry with this engine and it’s a pretty great engine. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Mine doesn’t burn oil, at ALL! Changed the main back seal once and that’s it. The engine is very easy to work on. The trick is using the right oil for the weather of your location. I use 20w50 instead of the 5w20 or 0w20 written on the oil cap and it runs fine. And of course changing your oil as required.
I have a 2004 Toyota Camry with 245,000 miles. It does use 1 quart every 1000 miles but other than that the car works great. Air conditioner still works. Power seat and windows still work and the upholstery is immaculate. I have no complaints about a car using a quart of oilevery 1000 miles.
Mate is Correct, i got this same issue on my 2az-fe 2.4 lmao. even when the care was serviced, those bolts will eventually fail and its actually more common in a country with rough roads. some of these commenters are driving on the best roads in the planet so ofc they wont get that bolt issue
my gf drove hers until the oil light lit up thats how much oil it eats... most toyota owners wont check their oil level... average woman doesnt even know where the dipstick is.... we traded hers in for a kia rio and shes very happy
You are truly right because I've fixed a number of them in Papua new guinea. From over heating engine's to auto transmission's. And found a lot of fault s with those design's.
I have this engine in my 2009 Pontiac Vibe. I've had a rough idle that seems to have worsened to a degree, no check engine light whatsoever. Also getting a rattle when accelerating, that is not heat shield related. Fuel mileage has definitely went way down as well. And yes, mine is an oil burner.....a very bad one.
I had the same problem in 09 vibe with 2.4 engine. it's probably the piston rings are clogged causing rough engine idle and oil consumption. do seafoam in the motor oil.
I have an 09 vibe AWD. Not an oil burner, but coolant temp sensor went out and 16yo new driver thought driving on “H” was fine all day. I’m doing head gasket this weekend, hopefully that’s all.
Check the ViN on the Toyota Owners site to see if the pistons were rebuilt. Now, if you're having cracking/leaking radiator plastic or have a leak in your heat core, you have that 2AZFE stripped head bolts syndrome. Remove the thermostat. Keep topping off your coolant every week. You'll generate a CEL & your mpg will drop. However, you'll slow down coolant loss. Save up $$$ for a proper repair/replace car. Peace.
I have a 2002 Toyota Camry and the same engine. And my car burns oil like every 1000 or 900 miles. And I do have to add coolant from time to time cause of the issue you mentioned with the head bolts. It’s doesn’t burn coolant too bad but I do have to add only sometimes. And I had noticed that after a long drive, my coolant level rises so high above the full level of the coolant reservoir and it gotten so full that one day, it probably would had forced its way out of the reservoir. I suspect it’s the head gasket issue cause I replaced the radiator cap and radiator is good and I thought it was abnormal for it. It has almost 234k on it.
What you are talking about the 2AZ-FE 2.4 only apply and assembled from North American market. I have a 2007 Camry which was assembled in Japan with no oil consumption problem.
I still have my 2002 Camry le and my car has 460,000 km (285,830 miles) so it still runs I am planning on changing the pistons, rings and rods so it can keep going and mind you I’m sure I won’t have to worry about oil burning after that job which will be done next year. These cars are very reliable but if you don’t want to spend the money to repair this car then go for another car. I’ve done much work to my car and mines a manual transmission but I believe it’s worth it in the end cause less technology and easy to work on and fix yourself if you’re a regular diy or advanced diy.
I'm sorry but at 2:40 I had to pause it because you couldn't be more WRONG about helicoils and timeserts. In aluminum, they are actually STRONGER than the original threads. When you have a steel insert of a larger diameter, the original diameter threads are now both steel, and the steel/aluminum thread surface is now a larger diameter, thus more surface area for the threads on the weaker metal.
Had this engine in my Tarago(people mover - Australia). Got 327k km (204k miles) not an issue. Changed every 5km ran like charm. At oil change the oil was not completely black either. Used to carry 6 of us, lots of city & country driving & at speed. I must have been lucky I guess.
Not all of them develop the oil burning issue. Partly luck but regularly changing the engine oil definitely helps, a lot of people neglect to do that. I've got a Rav4 2.0 1AZ-FE with 80k miles, 5w-30 fully synthetic oil, changing every 6-7k miles, it's proving to be a reliable engine so far.
probably yours is made in japan as mine. I think the problem happens only on engines made in the US. My 2010 camry with this engine has 100K miles on it and doesn't consume a single drop of oil
I had a 2003 camry as my first car, it had 330000 kilometers on it when we bought it (around 205K miles), and one day when I was coming back home from the grocery store it overheated! I'm guessing the cylinder head bolts issue happened here, We took it to the mechanic and he charged us around 800 dollars for the fix. We only put around 110K kilometers in it and sold it. So pretty bad experience for me.
I have a 2004 camry LE. With. 240000 miles use Mobil 1 and change oil every 6000 miles it uses 2 quarts every oil change I plan on going 400000 miles on this engine. Runs like a top 33 mpg hwy 24 mpg city this engine is a great engine just make sure to change oil and never ever let this engine over heat
I got a 05 Camry with 331,000 miles on it and I daily drive it 100miles a day. Best car I've ever owed. No complaints take care of it and it will run forever.
Look at all the comments, they are opposite to the title of the video. Tens of millions of engines made and most people have your experience of a very reliable engine. People rag on the 2AZ-FE but for its weight it has amazing HP and torque.
Its the stock thermost causing the heat...i test it and open but the secondary thermostat spring is too strong for the water pressure...so i replace the thermostat with a aftermarket one and i delete the secondary thermostat to keep the engine head cool....and i remove the jiggle pin and leave purge hole to 12 oclock and now rhe the engine runs well and mpg is decent just add 10w30 oil for a extra cool and protection 2azfe engine is pretty sassy in a 09 pontiac vibe... Full synthetic oil i would recommend for the engine to keep clean And drain oil often.
purchased new my 04 Camry with this engine now has 221,000 miles aware of the 2 major issues you mentioned always Synthetic oil since beginning if you maintain this engine many of us have gone way over 300,000 miles
I’d recommend one if the deal arises and you’re interested, 335ks on mine and it still does well I just had to replace the starter but that’s due to it being a pizza delivery vehicle for a time. Truly a great car and comfy interior as well.
I have an 02 that had some of the head bolts stripped and caused combustion leak (mine were not the rear but the front 2 left to right). Added stopleak and drove it for 4 years. (30 Miles). Eventually I pulled the head and used longer head bolts because I was too cheap/lazy to do the repair right. I was able to get it on the road but it started knocking and I think it was to gone by the time I removed the pan and found a bunch of crap in the oil pump intake filter. But to say avoid all those years I think is a bit overly critical. I heard after 06 they got better. Anyhow for 3 years I beat the hell out of that thing with head leak repair. I towed boats with it as well! Can you say that for an American car?
i’m so happy the comment section came back for the W. I was thinking this was purely blasphemy as my beautiful 2az-fe is at 230k on the stock clutch at that and has never given a single issue other than routine maint. absolute tank of a car which is also mainly held together by 10mm bolts which is 🤌🏻
I must be getting lucky I have 362k on my 09 camry. I've overheated it multiple times after hitting deer. my old 05 hade 412k I will only get this motor for commuting.
I own two cars with this engine and zero problems, one for 19 years and one for 14 years. You can't cheat on oil change maintenance! The people I know personally with oil consumption issues have cars that were neglected and overheated. No modern engine can tolerate overheating and skipped oil changes. Knock this brand, but I service several brands of cars and this is my favorite of all engines.
In your opinion is this worse than the oil consumption on the 1.8L 1ZZ-FEs used in the corollas? I just gave up my 2000 corolla which used a quart of oil every 100, YES 100 miles, in favor of a 2004 Camry with this 2.4L engine. So far I don't notice any oil consumption at all. But I am going to go easy on this one and always change with full synthetic every 3000 miles.
So here is my issue with this engine. there is really nothing you can do as a consumer to find out if the engine is using oil at purchase time short of a compression test. I highly doubt a seller will let you do that in a parking lot or a driveway. I would say some owners and dealers will flush the fluids, put fresh oil in and list it. most test drives are 20 miles or under and you aren't going to see anything then. I have this Engine in my 2007 Hybrid and with 214K miles doesn't use a drop.
Unfortunately they’ll still show good compression even if they’re burning oil. It’s not the compression rings that have an issue, it’s the oil control ring
Dude doesn't know what he's talking about. This is literally one of the most reliable engines. 2azfe can easily go to 250k+ miles. Mine is currently at 210k miles. Have not had to do any major repairs besides motor mounts.
2AZFE engine is a great engine and typically operates into the 300k-400k miles. Change the oil every 5000 miles or 6 months to avoid issues and use a good 5w-30 oil.
The first issue did have a TSB and owners were taken care of by Toyota and they extended the warranties for those vehicles. The fix is fairly easy and an advanced DIY person can do the job. Time Cert repair kits were used for warranty repairs and did not void the vehicle warranty (when I was working) they were as good as the original, and I have never seen one fail or personally heard of one failing.
The bad piston design was mainly an issue with the oil rings designed to give better fuel economy, which is also why they switched the 5w-30 to the 5w-20. They made a special kit that included new pistons, rings, and squirters that included all the gaskets necessary to resolve the issue however that isn't a DIY repair.
While this engine had its issues... it is very easy to work on, depending on the vehicle it is in, and extremely reliable. When I got rid of my Dodge neon it had 424,000 miles but I spent 10x the time and money on maintenance and preventative repairs than I would have on this engine. By the way, Dodge had a similar rear head bolt problem causing head gasket issues, the rear bolt holes were not deep enough from the factory.
Every vehicle manufacturer has issues, but at the end of the day, this is one of the most reliable 4-cylinder engines I have ever seen. How many 4-cylinder vehicles have you seen with 300-400k miles on an original engine with only regular maintenance?
Just my personal opinion.
agreed,my vellfire 08 almost 200k km still fly like the wing.🤩
If I continue using decent oil and change it at 4k mi, would the issue slowly develops or this would avoid the future oil burning problem?
I'm considering the Alphard Van 2003 - 2007 model with this engine in it, but I know that around that time, Toyota was also touting the oil service intervals were now at 15,000 k's, which is when a lot of engine damage is done early on... hence my hesitation on this engine, the head bolt problem and the oil burning problem. Most people follow the company recommendations not knowing any better not being mechanically minded... so the van I want quite possibly has had this extended oil service interval performed, not the better 5k mile / 8k km I do all the time on my old 5sfe camry.... The 1MZ FE motor has its own possible problems and the timing belt will be a mission in that van / people mover setup, not much working room, if you know the Alphard engine bay setup. What would you recommend yourself, still stick with the simpler 4 banger design or the V6 1MZ FE??? Cheers
Check the oil every 2 weeks & add when needed (it will need)
Is valve train clicking normal
350K on mine. This engine is among the simplest to work on. Did everything myself. Only oil changes every 5K miles and changed the cover gasket once. Top tier engine.
Basically same for mine, 335ks. Cheers to them lasting forever lol
Are you both driving 2.4s? What year?
Did compression test on 2006 Camry 2.4 after 350k miles of abuse - all 4 cylinders look like brand new at almost factory compression
I have no idea what this guy is talking about. These engines have legendary durability. Wowza.
Does is have any blow by when you take off the oil cap when the engine is running
From my 35 year experience the 2azfe is the best 4 cylinder engine I have worked on.
Made you the most money?
@@identifiesas65.wheresmyche95 🤣
Your workshop never got empty due to 2azfe engines hehehe
Can you please elaborate?
I have almost 460,000 miles on mine. I'm pretty sure this is the engine in my 2004 Toyota Camry.
I have over 288,000 miles on my 2AZ-FE engine and it still runs like a champ. I did started using Restore engine oil additive which has helped out tremendously. Not sure what's so bad about this engine. It's a very reliable engine in my opinion.
oil changes 5k and under were key for the faulty piston rings design
@cutehumor I've had 2 cars with the 2AZ in them and both I neglected to shit and they both had over 200k and ran fine
@@roswell911dd8 I don't believe so. Unless you have piston rings changed , otherwise the crazy oil consumption issue
My 2006 Camry has zero oil consumption between 3,500 mi synthetic oil changes with the correct grade of oil. If you guys follow those instructions you'll never our problems with this motor. It's a great engine but it's not designed to be owned by idiots.
@@rene6722 you may have the bulletin repair done. Otherwise the 2azfe engine is nightmare
I have an 09 camry with the 2az-fe eng..482,068 miles at the moment. Sure, it burns oil and there are things to do to mitigate the oil consumption, but I'm still driving it to this day. Original engine, transmission... water pump... drive belt. What other car can you say this about? I love this thing. And nearing half a million miles, it's still fun to drive!
My friend has a 09 Vibe with the 2AZ and has 300,000 hard commuter miles on his. It burns a little more oil than most, but it's a solid engine and feels better than the 1.8
Ever had to replace lifters yet ? Another common issue
@@kylel4689 have not replaced lifters, haven't replaced any internal engine components ..yet
My 05 Camry has nearly 400,000 miles and still runs smooth. Sounds like a new engine
I hate to say it but that's pretty much the end of its life cycle. They're meant to last 400,000 miles
Did it burn oil ?
Scotty says its one of the best Camy's ever built. I think you are wrong. I trust Scotty everyday.....
Our 2009 Camry with 2AZ-FE currently has 106,000 miles. We keep records and changed oil every 3,500 to 5,000 miles. I started changing the oil myself at 83,000 miles using Mobil-1 Synthetic 0w20. It currently burns 1/2qt every 2,500 miles, but when I change the oil it still has a nice amber color. We purchased this Camry new and the only maintenance is Gas, Oil, Battery and Tires, other than that I just recently replaced the Spark Plugs and Air Filter. Engine Bay looks brand new, no rust or engine leaks and Engine has never been washed. Always garage kept. So far this Camry has been a great vehicle. I'm "Toyota impressed" even if the 2AZ-FE is not the best Toyota engine.
Keep the oil full and these engines last forever
Unfortunately, you are living in the past. The Swiss Watch Toyota engines of the 80s & 90s are no longer being made. Modern Toyota engines now need to be researched. Was it built on a Monday? Was it built in the USA or Japan? How much plastic has been used in order to satisfy Government EPA MPG mandates? Peace.
We have an 09 2azfe with 166000 and it runs well but does use a lot of oil. Runs very well but I do maintain it properly. Replaced the timing chain and related parts, took out and cleaned injectors at 160000m and doing the balance shafts this weekend to get rid of the low rpm lose gear rattle. She notifies me every 1k miles so I can top oil off.
@@foggyfrogman1 Is your catalytic converter basically gone and check engine light on? These engines will last as long as oil is check often with whatever oil you decide to maintain it with
@@dashcamjourney4599 The #1 balance shaft had to loose gear
This engine is so endurance and most of toyota cars fitted with this engine still running today in Asia jungle and Africa desert wth very minimum maintenance cost. Im still driving my Toyota MPV using this engine wth 300k km mileage wth no major problem so far.
I got 239,000 miles out of my 2002 Toyota Camry le before I sold it. I think I remember hearing only a small percentage of vehicles had the oil consumption problem. It was the best, lowest maintenance vehicle I have owned. Most of the parts were original from the factory when I sold it this year. Unless quality starts to drop off I don't think I will buy anything but Toyota. I did have to add a couple quarts of oil between oil changes but I think this was due to a leaky belt tensioner rather than internal engine damage. I had to add engine oil between oil changes to every vehicle I have owned. I did service it regularly. The vehicle started and ran like it did when I bought it back in 2005 at the time I sold it.
The older ones don't seem to have the issues described in this vid. I have an 04 Camry with 178k and it's fine. They only start to burn a ton of oil in ~2007
In 12000 km I burn less than a cup of oil on my car with almost 300k. And I'm more convinced some of it leaks past the turbo bearing into the intercooler. To add that much oil is pretty significant.
I have the same car and model: 2002 Camry 4 Cylinder and what they are known for is the head gasket bolts. I had my head gasket bolts worked on otherwise the car is a reliable beast.
350k on my awd matrix, the engine has never missed a beat. ran 0w20 every 10k all its life and the only engine work was plugs and serp belt. otherwise thats it, it's still going strong, it's my DD work vehicle
Which oil do you use?
Did you drive short trips or a long commute? 10k miles is a long interval. Great to hear it is good most times.
@@سعيدخالد-د9ص 0w20 full synthetic
Have 2009 matrix awd. Bought new . nothing but trouble . fought with dealer many times and toyota . lied to me over and over. Then turned around and got letter saying it is being recalled. Then another dealer rebuilt. Jim Robinson in wheeling , wv. Sold me the car and run me off after calling me in on a teleconferance call insisting car was fine. Said they would put a used engine in it for 7500 $ .
Does it use oil in between changes?
I second this video. My 2009 Camry just blew a head gasket with internal damage and needs an engine replacement with only 55,000 miles on it. Diagnosis wast that the radiator leaked, there was no coolant, and a faulty temp reading system provided no warning sign. Engine seized in the middle of the highway. CHECK YOUR COOLANT OFTEN ON THIS ENGINE.
I tend to agree with your advice. Had a 2007 Camry that got the warranty repair at 85,000 miles. It was using a quart and a half in 1200 miles per dealership test. The car was driven mostly freeway miles, 80 miles per day five days a week. I had regular oil changes every 4,500 to 6,000 miles. That wasn't good enough to prevent the oil consumption problem. After the repair the engine ran fine.
223k miles on my Camry. I check the oil level and top it up every 800 miles. Runs like a dream.
thats not a dream I have
I have a 2006 Camry Altise that my Parents owned and drove for the last 17 years until they recently decided to buy a new car, the engine has never had any of those problems show up, in fact, apart from the normal servicing the engine hasn't had to have any major work done to it, been the most reliable car my Parents owned, it's about to turn over 190 000Km (118 060Miles) hopefully it will continue to be as reliable.
My brother-in-law had a 2002 Camry with this engine. At 189,000 km (113,000 miles) the head bolts stripped out, coolant dumped into the cylinders and the engine was destroyed. It cost almost $9,000 to get the car back on the road. The dealer swore he'd never seen a failure like it (Toyotas run forever!) but the Toyota mechanic quietly said he saw quite a few of them. The engine had always been dealer-maintained, had its regular oil changes etc. The engine was going to self-destruct eventually, no matter how well looked after.
I have the 2AZ-FE 2.4-liter engine in my 2006 Camry. The car has 130,000 km on the clock and has never burnt a drop of oil. I change the oil every 5,000 km and drain and fill the transmission oil every 50,000 km. I have changed the coolant and water pump once.
How much trans oil do you put in
That explains when I got my 09 Vibe last year, that oil burning situation existed, but once I put Chemtool B-12 before the oil change, put in 0w-20 full synthetic, the oil burning stopped within a few weeks, and haven't had that problem since.
My son still drives our 2004 manual shift camry with almost 200k miles on it. The only thing I've had to do is replace a valve cover gasket and leaky radiator along with 5th gear repair with a clutch (which is apparently fairly normal). Still the best driving car I've got... It is a Japanese made car... Don't know if that makes a difference, but I love this car.
2004 2az fe engine has different piston design 2011 Ithink is when they changed the pistons
I still drive my 2009 Camry with this exact engine. My country did not have a that service bulletin for the pistons. So, mine is left untouched since it rolled out of the showroom floor. In 12 years of ownership, I have zero problems with it. I just take care of it and it take cares of me.
2.4L 2AZ-FE:. Keep an eye on coolant level every week. Change water pump every ~three years. Change transmission oil every 60K miles. The 2.5L 2AR-FE (2008- current) is a way better engine. Peace.
In México too,no info,was available still drive the Toyota Camry 07 but Burns los of oil rus Nice ,was Made in u,s,
Got 155k+on my 05 Camry. Runs like a top. Every once it a while if it been sitting in the cold there will be a puff of blue smoke,nothing more. Keep up on preventative maintenance religiously.
2011 toyota camry 2.4 L, driven 207000 KM, never had any issue. For the last 4 years I just changed engine oil and filter. Once the Crank seal was leaking so replaced it and that too 3 years ago. That's it. This is a pretty good engine. And no oil consumption till now. Running good.
2003 Camry...315k miles. Oil changes every 3k miles. 2 qts added between changes so I let it get low on the last 1k. Runs beautiful
Have this engine in my 2006 Scion TC. Just turned 178,000 miles and it doesn't burn a drop of oil. I always use Mobil 1 full synthetic for every oil change, and always do my oil changes between the 3k and 4.2k mile mark...no clue about the previous owner though (bought the car with 123,000 miles on it already). I also run a full bottle of Techron in it before each oil change. With good maintenance, this engine will last and last. I'm nearing 200k miles and still average 31+ mpg on the highway. Bulletproof.
I have a same car same engine. I have 320k miles. Still running great
I have a 07 jeep with a 2.4 l in it. 145k & it runs like new. Timing chain still tight AF. Love it..
My brother works on these Camrys (& other Toyotas), and according to his experience, it is the 2007 & up with the oil problems. I have bought 3 Camrys from him, and have not had any problems with oil consumption. The one I drive now has over 240,000 mi on it. I just changed the oil(at 5,000) and it was about ¼ qt low. I haven't added any oil to since the last change. I don't know if any engine work had been done before or not, and it is the original engine.(numbers match)
329k miles on mine ( 2005 camry )...doesnt burn a single drop....a real champion of an engine. there are some people with over 1M miles on it...one of toyotas best
2004.
2.4l.2azfe.
camry.225000 miles.
i used for several times, power steering oil, transmission oil, petrol/diesel engine oil of all grades
0w16 to 20w50, and it might be capable to use water without any issues.
used it for more than 6 time to travel 2000 miles / 18 hrs per each without stop.
used it in extreme harsh weather, 51 celuis/124 f° for 4 hours riding at 100 mph dust weather
used in exceptional harsh weather 55 c°\ 130f° short intervals, found that i have a super cooling ac & super cooling engine system
the greatest toyota/ lexus engine are those made between 1980 - 2007.
each 1000mile i need to add half liter of oil.
thats it.
maintenance:
1 Oil pump
1 tensioner pully
1 radiator
2 radiator fan motors
regular spark plugs/ air filter/ oil change
Thank you.
I have a 2003 camry with this engine and auto transmission. It doesn't use any oil between 5,000 km change intervals. It doesn't get thrashed, gets a minute or two when cold started to allow the oil to circulate and has never missed a beat. It's about to get a new water pump as it's weeping from the tell tale hole, but that's just routine maintenance. Still runs quietly with plenty of power and will return 700km from a tank of fuel.
My mum had an 07 Camry that had this engine. For 12 years that she owned the car, there were no signs of any oil burning. The car just had regular servicing from our family mechanic, and it never once lost a drop of oil. That's why I'm surprised to find the amount of oil-burning issues that this engine had. Maybe we got lucky with this Camry.
Very lucky.
My rav4 and I share a drinking problem. No issues if I keep her happy 220000km across 14 years
As long as you keep them full they’ll run forever!
Has this engine in my 2004 camry I bought new. Sold it at 130,000 miles with never a problem. Had a defective belt tensioner at 24k miles and the intermediate steering shaft clunked. Recalled in about a million Sienna's. Before that bought a new 1998 Camry V6 the claimed had issues. at 160,000 it was perfect except for the valve cover gaskets leaking. Teh annoying thing was the defective strut bushgings, the suspension was horrible. Replaced my 2004 Camry with a new 2009 Hyundai Sonata I am still driving today and is the best car I have ever owned. It runs and drive like the day I bought it over 12 years ago!
Great video! I have a 2002 Japan build with a 5 speed and do a lot of preventative maintenance on it, especially on the cooling system. I run a scan gauge 2 and keep my eyes on those coolant temps. 190* is the highest I’ve seen it go, but it’s usually at ~175* in normal driving. Overall it’s a great car and I enjoy driving it on long trips and hope to keep it going.
Toyota redesigned the block for the 2007 to fix the head bolt failure my 07 burns oil but I added a oil cooler to increase oil capacity I think its a great engine
have a 2AZ-FE in 2002 camry that the kids beat the heck out of. But still runs good at 250k. Burns oil (a quart every 500?) but figured that was because some kid in college wasnt changing oil for a long time. Once it was driven from LA to bay area with only a quart in the sump but somehow survived, and that made me think its actually a pretty tough engine. And I do know someone had the head bolts pull; it got fixed pretty ok with inserts from top.
My 2008 2az-fe uses about a quart between oil changes. It has 196,000 miles on it. I strapped a turbo on it. It runs great.
A quart between oil changes is nothing! I’ve actually driven a turbo TC with the 2.4. Fun little car
353000 miles on my scion 2.4vvt-i no recalls done. Yes its a 2AZFE. Burns oil but not alot. Its a very easy engine to maintain, its a workhorse... one of Toyotas easiest DYI engines.
keep the oil changed so the rings won't get clogged up and start burning oil..If the head bolts lift install timesert head bolt kit..great running motor when you know how to take care of them..
my new 2.4 engine never goes past half on the temperature gauge..
this whole thing about cooling system .
what I did with the plastic/metal radiator at 90k miles is take it out and replace it with a 2 core all metal rad.I have 270k on mine now
with these toyotas it is very easy to do, it's not a VOLVO folks!
We have 2004 camry 2.4l xle in family for 10 years now. It has 165000 miles now and have some oil consumption, but no major problems with engine yet. Alternator and starter had problems, but not the engine itself. This engine is very heat loaded, this i can confirm. We change oil every 5000 miles.
Scott I don’t know what he’s talking about the two AZF. He is a workhorse the little engine will go 250,000 3000 miles if you just do your simple maintenance.
Spoken like a true toyota mechanic! Very accurate material, I love these engines. Rebuilt probably at least 50!
I had 1mfze in my 99 solara 5spd manual. Never had a issue with trans or engine. Loved that car.
toyota V6 engines are very stout, the 2az is just a kink in the armor I guess, because the 5sfe was a super reliable engine, as is the 2AR
@@SEsGarage I remember the v6 4runners always blowing head gaskets .
Well Stephen, I went and did it LOL. Got a project car, 2003 Camry with this engine. The radiator was leaking, the heater core was leaking too. Engine is solid and doesn't burn oil. Has 281K miles. I bought it as a project/flip car. Replaced the radiator, thermostat and the heater core. That's when I noticed the leak in the back of the engine under the intake. No coolant in the cylinders and plugs and compression are good so it's not the head gasket. It has to be the head bolts. LOL. So, guess what I am going to do this spring? Yup, pull the head off and do the dance with the devil LOL. I am decent DIY, done plenty of deep dives but not this deep yet. I was thinking of doing a redneck solution and silicon seal the leaking area between the head and block, but I better do it right. Love those projects.
When you consider how many millions of vehicles sold with these engines, only a small percentage failed.
Also re years, from 09 on they had modified internals, slightly higher compression. So 09 on, well maintained should be no problem.
2AZ-FE in my Rav4 2008 (NZ market, Japan made). Has never used any oil, and still runs like new after 120,000km.
Yip I have a 2012 Rav - Jap made (in Oz) also no issues. I think the piston ring problem was the American made Ravs at that time.
I have a 2005 Camry 2.4L and still driving it every day, it has over 410,000 km in the clock, and yes it has a coolant issue just like the rest, I keep to top up the coolant, but it is never overheated and still running very well. I will think it may go another 100,000 km into 500,000 km as long as I keep topping up the coolant in the rad.
Hi pal, Where is supposed the coolant to be going?
Thanks!
@@taz24787 the coolant has an external leak from the head gasket due to the strip cylinder head bolt. as long as you keep the coolant fill, you can keep driving it .
@@3819144 Ohhh, got it. Thank you!!
I am looking at a 2005 Camry to buy right now as my first automatic transmission car. But when I road tested it, the gears were not answering well and at high speed it seemed to lack force. As an experienced owner, do you know if this may be small or BIG issues?
Also, when turned on, the engine blows air through the opened oil cap hole. Not enough pressure to push my hand, but it does blow. Is that normal for this engine?
Thanks once again!
The radiator or coolant hose may have a leak. Check for white residue indicating dry coolant
yea most mechanics say its a very reliable engine can go many miles, easy to work with, however, if it does not bother you adding oil every 2K miles and changing your oil on time. It's cool. and you're correct, once you know of a problem, fix it. to avoid cooking the engine. Some say the oil burning was 2007-2008 but apparently it is in the 2009 bc it has this same engine apparently. Thanks for video
I have a 2010 toyota corolla and brought it new it never gave me a problem one bit funny you say they have so many probems
390,000 kms on my 2AZFE in a 2007 Tarago. Runs like a dream and consumes no oil.
He’s clearly never driven or been in a Scion tC. It’s actually pretty fast especially with the 5 speed manual transmission. Def not as fast as a wrx but 0-60 in sub 8 seconds is pretty good for a car in its class and the gas mileage is great too. I have one and it does in fact push me back to the seat so there you go.
A wrx isn’t exactly fast either. The Tc probably does the 1/4 in around 16-17 seconds at best. Compared to any real sports car or sedan…it’s slow. Hell, my TRD Camry hits 60 in under 6 seconds and the 1/4 around 14 and while yes it puts me back in the seat, it’s by no means a fast car.
I’m actually looking at buying another tc. Just gotta buy the right one. What year is yours?
I just bought an 05 tc with 215,000 it’s quick and fun to drive but my moms tdi convertible beetle is faster
The tc is slow for having a 2.4 compared to a 2005 rsx type s with a 2.0 engine.
I used stop leak and that fixed my issue with the piston rings seeping oil while sitting
my lil bro had a 2AZ-FE Camry from 03 and it lasted till 230k. He was moving from Cali to Texas and i tagged along with him on the drive. 100 miles away from el paso at
3:00 am, the engine suddenly seized :/. didn't realize that it would burn thru all the oil after a fresh oil change >:o but it lived a hard life.
THESE ARE EXCELLENT ENGINES, I SERVICE TOYOTA VEHICLES, I SEE THESE ENGINES MANY APPROACHING 500 k ,SECRET IS KEEP FLUIDS CHANGED ,AND DO YOUR MAINTNANCE
2008 Camry 2AZ-FE: Short block replaced 45K miles, alternator 110K, rear backing plates rusted 120K, radiator/water pump/hoses 130K, complete OEM engine mounts 145K, power steering lines 145K. Highly recommend Mobil 1 0W-20 20K extended and I do BG's oil change EPR/MOA/44K every 5K miles, uses 1/2 quart oil, change trans fluid every 60K miles. Dash panel sticky/cracked, there's an expired TSB about this, can do a cover or just use Meguire's interior cleaner. Definitely the V6 is better, hope to drive this one to the ground, should get 100K miles. Just changed to a cheaper Walker exhaust as the OEM rusted out (Midwest road salt). Best: change oil max 5K/6mos, PCV regularly. If you live close to Homer Glen, check out TCCN UA-cam channel. Balance shafts have minor noise. Japan made Toyota's are much better.
Fell in love with my polished turd of a camry. I was under the impression it consumes oil because of the valve stem seals. I'm at 285k miles. It sounds like it's going to rattle itself apart and honestly didn't expect it to last but that was damn near 150k miles ago. I add about a full quarter a month. Still gets 28 mpg. I change the oil every 2500 miles
I’ve got a 2007 w this engine.
Guess I just got lucky.
205k and counting.
No problems.
Never added an ounce of extra oil.
When we first bought it, wife had a long daily commute +50 miles per day.
Don’t know if that helped?
My ‘02 Camry has this engine, and has burned 1qt. per 1000 miles-for the last 100K miles. The engine is completely original, except for a couple of valve cover gasket replacements, and routine coolant, oil, filter, and plug replacements, and now has 314K miles on it. Starts and runs smoothly. The exhaust system has been replaced once because of salt-related rust, not because of any oil-burning catalytic converter issues. My mechanics’ guidance has been spot-on: “Add oil, and keep on driving.” I would avoid the ‘07-‘09 editions of this engine, but my earlier one has been fine.
Every have any head bolt issues?
@@jordandudgeon346 No. I think as long as I keep the cooling system in good shape, and it doesn’t overheat at all, they’re not a problem. 327K miles now, and still being daily-driven by my son.
Thanks! Man some people are so negative about this engine. They make it sound like the head bolt stripping the block is inevitable. I just bought one with 85000 miles and I was nervous to find out about head block issues after, but I think if I take care of it I'm good. People are being unrealistic I think, pretending the head block issue is more common than it is. Do you think it happens to most of these, or just a small portion?
@@jordandudgeon346 Dunno-I have a sample size of 1. But if I was in the market for a bargain in a used car, a private sale of a known-low-mile pre-‘07 Camry w/the 2AZ-FE, preferably from an elderly, maintenance-fussy driver, would be on my shopping list. And they’re out there-hopefully, you got one of those.
I got one with 85,000 miles for $8,500 Canadian Dollars (so about $6000 USD). The outside is in perfect condition, not a scratch, the inside is mint, the console still smells new on the inside, drives great, no issues, doesn't burn oil, and oil stays gold for a long time in the engine... I'm sure the man was mantnaince fussy, as it's in great shape. The hood says the tyranny was flushed at 80,000miles and the coolant was flushed at 60,000miles. I'm the third owner, but really I'm the second. The first owner was an old man who sold it because he couldn't drive anymore. The second was a younger man who took good care of it but only had it for 2 months and then sold it to me as he was moving.
I really hope I got a good deal, and hope it lasts. Don't want to run into this head block issue! Besides that I don't have any concerns for the reliability of this engine!! Think I got an okay deal?
I have a Camry with this engine and it’s a pretty great engine. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Mine doesn’t burn oil, at ALL! Changed the main back seal once and that’s it. The engine is very easy to work on.
The trick is using the right oil for the weather of your location. I use 20w50 instead of the 5w20 or 0w20 written on the oil cap and it runs fine. And of course changing your oil as required.
It was probably fixed at some point. They ALL burn oil at some point.
@@mediaguy4037 Yes, they do. But mine doesn’t burn as much as I hear people say they do.
I have a 2004 Toyota Camry with 245,000 miles. It does use 1 quart every 1000 miles but other than that the car works great. Air conditioner still works. Power seat and windows still work and the upholstery is immaculate. I have no complaints about a car using a quart of oilevery 1000 miles.
Mate is Correct, i got this same issue on my 2az-fe 2.4 lmao. even when the care was serviced, those bolts will eventually fail and its actually more common in a country with rough roads. some of these commenters are driving on the best roads in the planet so ofc they wont get that bolt issue
Mine has been great I have a 2007 camry with almost 345k no issues 😊
Got a friend with an Avalon with about 345k Aswel. Their decent cars.
my gf drove hers until the oil light lit up thats how much oil it eats... most toyota owners wont check their oil level... average woman doesnt even know where the dipstick is.... we traded hers in for a kia rio and shes very happy
Yep, all the Toyota owners I see don’t even know what oil is 😅 it’s all noobs
You are truly right because I've fixed a number of them in Papua new guinea. From over heating engine's to auto transmission's. And found a lot of fault s with those design's.
Wrong oil use, I can tell you that.
nawh the 2AZ-FE engine is bullet proof and one of the best engines out there, I had an 09 Camry LE with 300k miles that burned ZERO oil
I have this engine in my 2009 Pontiac Vibe. I've had a rough idle that seems to have worsened to a degree, no check engine light whatsoever. Also getting a rattle when accelerating, that is not heat shield related. Fuel mileage has definitely went way down as well. And yes, mine is an oil burner.....a very bad one.
Mine did that when the oil got low.
I had the same problem in 09 vibe with 2.4 engine. it's probably the piston rings are clogged causing rough engine idle and oil consumption. do seafoam in the motor oil.
I have an 09 vibe AWD. Not an oil burner, but coolant temp sensor went out and 16yo new driver thought driving on “H” was fine all day. I’m doing head gasket this weekend, hopefully that’s all.
Here in Australia the same engine (not 2ar) is in 2010 and 2011 Camey..and no oil consumption issues at all…
Check the ViN on the Toyota Owners site to see if the pistons were rebuilt. Now, if you're having cracking/leaking radiator plastic or have a leak in your heat core, you have that 2AZFE stripped head bolts syndrome. Remove the thermostat. Keep topping off your coolant every week. You'll generate a CEL & your mpg will drop. However, you'll slow down coolant loss. Save up $$$ for a proper repair/replace car. Peace.
I have a 2002 Toyota Camry and the same engine. And my car burns oil like every 1000 or 900 miles. And I do have to add coolant from time to time cause of the issue you mentioned with the head bolts. It’s doesn’t burn coolant too bad but I do have to add only sometimes. And I had noticed that after a long drive, my coolant level rises so high above the full level of the coolant reservoir and it gotten so full that one day, it probably would had forced its way out of the reservoir. I suspect it’s the head gasket issue cause I replaced the radiator cap and radiator is good and I thought it was abnormal for it. It has almost 234k on it.
What you are talking about the 2AZ-FE 2.4 only apply and assembled from North American market. I have a 2007 Camry which was assembled in Japan with no oil consumption problem.
Yep it was the American made 2az-fe that had the oil consumption problem. The Jap made ones were fine 👍🏼
I still have my 2002 Camry le and my car has 460,000 km (285,830 miles) so it still runs I am planning on changing the pistons, rings and rods so it can keep going and mind you I’m sure I won’t have to worry about oil burning after that job which will be done next year. These cars are very reliable but if you don’t want to spend the money to repair this car then go for another car. I’ve done much work to my car and mines a manual transmission but I believe it’s worth it in the end cause less technology and easy to work on and fix yourself if you’re a regular diy or advanced diy.
I'm sorry but at 2:40 I had to pause it because you couldn't be more WRONG about helicoils and timeserts. In aluminum, they are actually STRONGER than the original threads. When you have a steel insert of a larger diameter, the original diameter threads are now both steel, and the steel/aluminum thread surface is now a larger diameter, thus more surface area for the threads on the weaker metal.
I love my 2az-fe! 248k miles and runs like new. Just check your oil often. Im actually going to rebuild mine with forged internals.
Had this engine in my Tarago(people mover - Australia). Got 327k km (204k miles) not an issue. Changed every 5km ran like charm. At oil change the oil was not completely black either.
Used to carry 6 of us, lots of city & country driving & at speed.
I must have been lucky I guess.
Not all of them develop the oil burning issue. Partly luck but regularly changing the engine oil definitely helps, a lot of people neglect to do that. I've got a Rav4 2.0 1AZ-FE with 80k miles, 5w-30 fully synthetic oil, changing every 6-7k miles, it's proving to be a reliable engine so far.
probably yours is made in japan as mine. I think the problem happens only on engines made in the US. My 2010 camry with this engine has 100K miles on it and doesn't consume a single drop of oil
Does anyone know what year this issue was fixed by Toyota (ie what age toyotas should be avoided)?
I had a 2003 camry as my first car, it had 330000 kilometers on it when we bought it (around 205K miles), and one day when I was coming back home from the grocery store it overheated! I'm guessing the cylinder head bolts issue happened here, We took it to the mechanic and he charged us around 800 dollars for the fix. We only put around 110K kilometers in it and sold it. So pretty bad experience for me.
I have a 2004 camry LE. With. 240000 miles use Mobil 1 and change oil every 6000 miles it uses 2 quarts every oil change I plan on going 400000 miles on this engine. Runs like a top 33 mpg hwy 24 mpg city this engine is a great engine just make sure to change oil and never ever let this engine over heat
add oil on Wednesday change oil on Sunday repeat
I got 2010 Toyota Matrix XR With a 2AZ-fee engine i use full synthetic oil it lasts longer doesn't burn too much oil
I got a 05 Camry with 331,000 miles on it and I daily drive it 100miles a day. Best car I've ever owed. No complaints take care of it and it will run forever.
Look at all the comments, they are opposite to the title of the video. Tens of millions of engines made and most people have your experience of a very reliable engine. People rag on the 2AZ-FE but for its weight it has amazing HP and torque.
Its the stock thermost causing the heat...i test it and open but the secondary thermostat spring is too strong for the water pressure...so i replace the thermostat with a aftermarket one and i delete the secondary thermostat to keep the engine head cool....and i remove the jiggle pin and leave purge hole to 12 oclock and now rhe the engine runs well and mpg is decent just add 10w30 oil for a extra cool and protection 2azfe engine is pretty sassy in a 09 pontiac vibe... Full synthetic oil i would recommend for the engine to keep clean And drain oil often.
purchased new my 04 Camry with this engine now has 221,000 miles aware of the 2 major issues you mentioned always Synthetic oil since beginning if you maintain this engine many of us have gone way over 300,000 miles
My 2008 camry runs fine, no problems, i never got a problem except a valve
I’m not mechanically inclined at all and this engine is extremely easy to work on. I love this engine, In fact, looking at a Scion tC atm
I’d recommend one if the deal arises and you’re interested, 335ks on mine and it still does well I just had to replace the starter but that’s due to it being a pizza delivery vehicle for a time. Truly a great car and comfy interior as well.
I have an 02 that had some of the head bolts stripped and caused combustion leak (mine were not the rear but the front 2 left to right). Added stopleak and drove it for 4 years. (30 Miles). Eventually I pulled the head and used longer head bolts because I was too cheap/lazy to do the repair right. I was able to get it on the road but it started knocking and I think it was to gone by the time I removed the pan and found a bunch of crap in the oil pump intake filter. But to say avoid all those years I think is a bit overly critical. I heard after 06 they got better. Anyhow for 3 years I beat the hell out of that thing with head leak repair. I towed boats with it as well! Can you say that for an American car?
Some American cars yes, but at some point they really started messing up with bad engines. Also your camry was made in America!
I got a Scion tC and I’m having to put a quart every week 🤦🏽♂️ changed the valve cover still no luck probably made it worse
i’m so happy the comment section came back for the W. I was thinking this was purely blasphemy as my beautiful 2az-fe is at 230k on the stock clutch at that and has never given a single issue other than routine maint. absolute tank of a car which is also mainly held together by 10mm bolts which is 🤌🏻
202k on mine 2006 RAV4 works and runs great, mine doesn't even burn oil believe it or not I must of got lucky.
I have same engine in my 09 Camry, it never failed me. Keep a regular maintenance and it's just awesome.
I had a 2010 scion xB and 2002 Toyota Camry both burned oil like crazy at really low miles.
v6?
I must be getting lucky I have 362k on my 09 camry. I've overheated it multiple times after hitting deer. my old 05 hade 412k I will only get this motor for commuting.
I own two cars with this engine and zero problems, one for 19 years and one for 14 years. You can't cheat on oil change maintenance! The people I know personally with oil consumption issues have cars that were neglected and overheated. No modern engine can tolerate overheating and skipped oil changes. Knock this brand, but I service several brands of cars and this is my favorite of all engines.
In your opinion is this worse than the oil consumption on the 1.8L 1ZZ-FEs used in the corollas? I just gave up my 2000 corolla which used a quart of oil every 100, YES 100 miles, in favor of a 2004 Camry with this 2.4L engine. So far I don't notice any oil consumption at all. But I am going to go easy on this one and always change with full synthetic every 3000 miles.
I have the same engine in my 2011 Scion xB burns a quart ever 300-500 miles. I put zmax in my oil it cleaned the engine and slowed the oil burning
2007-2009 oil control rings had design issue. I have a 2004 Camry 2.4 bought new has 195000 miles doesn’t use oil.
Yep he said just the head bolts for those years
I bought my mom an 09 Matrix S with the 2.4. She's had it a little over a year, I've done 3 oil changes
So here is my issue with this engine. there is really nothing you can do as a consumer to find out if the engine is using oil at purchase time short of a compression test. I highly doubt a seller will let you do that in a parking lot or a driveway. I would say some owners and dealers will flush the fluids, put fresh oil in and list it. most test drives are 20 miles or under and you aren't going to see anything then. I have this Engine in my 2007 Hybrid and with 214K miles doesn't use a drop.
Unfortunately they’ll still show good compression even if they’re burning oil. It’s not the compression rings that have an issue, it’s the oil control ring
Cheap borescope for your cellphone, look at the pistons through the sparkplug hole. If its an oil burner it'll be obvious.
Dude doesn't know what he's talking about. This is literally one of the most reliable engines. 2azfe can easily go to 250k+ miles. Mine is currently at 210k miles. Have not had to do any major repairs besides motor mounts.