The difference between south indian carnatic and north indian hindusthani classical songs.
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2010
- Neela Bhagwat answers the question: difference between carnatic and hindusthani music.
Neela Bhagwat is a familiar name for lovers of Hindustani music the world over. As a front-ranking exponent of the Gwalior style of singing.
There are larger differences than the fundamentals being mentioned. 1. Carnatic music has lot more sahithya compared to Hindustani music. It is extremely important to have clarity in singing sahithya (Lyrics). Lyrics especially in Sanskrit require perfect pronunciation- some examples are Muthuswamy dixitar and Jayachamaraja wadeyar compositions) in Carnatic music as the meaning of the song can change if notes are not pronounced correctly. 2. For a Carnatic purist - Hindustani singing sounds like having mixed ragas ( as Carnatic system is more complex, stringent in terms of raga, gam akas) and sometimes Purists cannot understand which raga is being sung when all notes are not clearly being pronounced. 3. Carnatic music has a tradition of a very strong Hindu culture where as Hindustani (even though name sounds Hindu) has more Persian, Arabic, in other words and has Islamic influence 4. Carnatic music is structured with 72 Melakarthas where as eauivalent Hindustani has 10 that. Hence Carnatic music gives rise to more Ragas mathematically (17 notes Vs 12 notes as mentioned) 5. It takes a longer time span to learn Carnatic music than Hindustani music due to these differences.6. Hindustani Music can be played on keyboard/ harmonium (discrete mathematical function). But Carnatic music cannot be played on either keyboard/harmonium due to its limitations for playing Gamakas.( continuous mathematical function). Hence Carnatic music is accompanied by stringed instruments (violin, Veena) which are capable of playing gamakas.
7. Most of the Hindustani compositions start Tala(beat) in samam which makes it easier for musician to sing, and tabla player to play, where as in Carnatic music majority of the compositions start off beat,( 1/2, 1, 1 1/2, 2 1/2 upto 8 beats (ex: atta Tala (14 to 28 beats) gets highly mathematical) it is more difficult to sing and provides versatality in playing mridanga at the same time . Hopefully this helps!
Thank you Hans (Are you Indogerman?) for your feedback with clarifications. I appreciate it.
Would you please let us know a bit more in detail about 'Sahithya' and about your musical knowledge backgroud.
Best regards
Suresh
suresh suresh I have settled in USA for last 30 years. I come from family of musicians who enjoyed the patronage of Mysore palace. I have both carnatic and Hindustani musicians in the family. I learnt carnatic classical music( over 40 years) under senior most deciple of Dr. Balamuralikrishna. I also learnt music in Virginia under senior deciples of GN Balasubramanian. I have given classical music concerts and film music across USA. I have experimented using Tabla for carnatic music. It goes well as long as I sing in Samam beat. I have also used tabla accompaniment when I sing Bhajans ( Light Classical) which does not require the complexities of Mridanga. I have also tried experimenting Harmonium for carnatic music, and did not go well either. Again for your question regarding Sahithya -good portion of Sahitya(Lyrics) in carnatic music is written in highly sophisticated Sanskrit language or Kannada, Telugu, Malayalam. Tamil is not a sanskrit based language and has less compositions as well.
Suresh- if you have any question Please do not hesitate to drop a line.Thx
Hans Vishwanath i agree with this. i also was raised on carnatic music and got a little into hindustani later. but i feel like i have been spoiled by carnatic because hindustani is too long and gets boring to me. carnatic is more complex and makes the brain jog along with it more...
+Hans Vishwanath Hello Hans. Thanks for your explanation. One question I have, after learning hindustani classical for a brief period of time (10 months) is - is it possible to create something as individualistic as rock music with indian classical (both hindustani and carnatic?)
Vinay seth, It is possible to create any music using either Hindusthani or Carnatic music. Rock music does not require level of knowledge you need for Indian music. you just have to learn a few beat patterns. Majority of the western music has 8 beats. It is easier to construct them. Hope this helps!
This is so cool and interesting l.Thankyou!
Very helpful. Thanks.
Really good and helpful video to understand difference between both the styles of classical music.... thanks
easy to do phd in fin math than understanding her :P....