It's bullshit, but i relate to it I'm homosexual. The second I start talking about how our world has fallen and become corrupted, how the socialism proposed by Marx failed in the mission of saving us from the current capitalist system and that the French Revolution was a mistake, they suddenly start attacking me
Studies show that 1) Even the confused, hormone-driven mind of a teenager can differentiate between fictional violence and real violence 2) videogames cause no more aggression than watching sports or losing at chess
Both can be wrong or right. A teenager can think it's fine to shoot because of a game (already happened) and video games can , again, cause a stronger reaction because of the immersion. They can also change someone for the better or cause less agression because there would be less stress than in a competition. It all depends on the game, and yes some types of games are more to blame than others.
@@lasody1766 If they think it fine to shoot someone because of a video game then you prove it's the parents fault. They could think the same thing from watching a movie. That shows they already had a problem, not the video game
@@lasody1766 When someone can't differentiate between the fiction of videogames, movies or books, it is time to see a psychiatrist. Though I could agree that if a child somehow isn't taught moral values it may come to some wrong conclusions about the world.
I love Volkeh. Not because he's actually likeable, but because he can get people in even the most divisive debates to unite and collectively bully him, and he's too much of a jackass for anyone to sympathize.
Everyone: "I wonder, do video games cause crimes?" Volkeh: "OHOHOHOHO YOU MISERABLE ************************ and ******************** you pieces of ****************** LMAOOOOOOOZHGHSDJHGASD"
@@rnaodmsomething volken did 1) justified staying indoor 2) said the N-word completely gratuitusly 3) wished sexual assault on an hypotetical person for no reason other than them existing 4) and mentioned the grindset unironically within the same sentence and afther getting the lightest taunting in some of these videos he is just built differently and he is completely uninjed
@@naproupi Or maybe, just maybe, it was a joke, and you shouldn't go so darn deep into your interpretation. I mean I even play mobile games, so if anyone is straw-manning here, it's you my dude.
It's not really the lag, it's the fact that something completely out of your control is affecting your performance. It's for this reason that I propose we give up on EA ever upgrading their servers and have community hosted ones, because they'll run better and hopefully I won't have 120 ping on Apex Legends.
@@egg_addict Me playing FPS Roblox games 5 years ago with an average 600 ping (300 ping if god felt like it one day). Interestingly, that resulted in me not lashing out violently, but getting depressed like hell and be a sad mess. Basically me cry when yellow Lego men kill me through wall on ~600 ping 😭
“I prefer not to interact with them and focus on the grind” Does Volkeh genuinely think he is a Sigma male? Everyone knows the sigma of this group is Harry.
Volkeh is from 4chan, doxxed a motherfucker, and leaked someone’s nudes. Calling him a sigma male would be like calling Charlie Zelenoff the greatest Boxer ever.
@@Spiritnick definitely not, this video was one of the funniest I’ve seen in a while and half of it was Volkeh’s sudden tangents or related to him xD Don’t agree with the guy but I hope he never changes, in the context of appearing in these videos of course
Bowl and Volkeh are opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to trolling. Bowl is harmless, he makes jokes such as being homophobic and being a psychopath and being pro gun violence and such, but by the end of the day it takes some effort to be offended by what he says and everyone laughs about it. Volkeh intends to hurt people with what he says for his own amusement, and he's the only one laughing. Nobody likes it, everyone hates him. Troll like Bowl, not Volkeh.
Bowls entire being almost has a sense of humor to him anyways, almost as if he's like the class clown. His delivery of lines, even if it's only the droning beeps of ace attorney, feel funny and sarcastic. PRESENTATION
Honestly I think nobody in these videos are fully human. FC: Rogue android Bowl: Result of obscene bio-engineering Goblin Tyrant: Intelligent goblin Volkeh: Vampire that feeds on the annoyance of others Harry: Enlightened despotic artificial intelligence Cleophoebs: Forest creature made out of mushrooms, pine cones, and sunlight (edit: Siren) Gringo: Alien from outer space conducting a wildly unsuccessful study
The greentexting killed me, it was wonderful. I'm seriously half-convinced that he's playing a character to generate arguments, he feels too comically insane to be real. And trust me, I've SEEN some wackos in my time.
Just remembered the fact that one american shop - I don’t remember the name right now - banned videogames with guns while selling guns in the store itself. I think we can see the problem here…
Yeah, pointless virtue signaling coming from a company worth billions attempting to influence people. Kind of spreading like a disease nowadays when you think about it.
Volkeh is a walking joke. If he’s playing a character he’s doing a good job being comedic relief, if he isn’t and actually takes himself seriously it becomes f*cking hilarious.
Everyone else: Trying to have serious/lighthearted discussion Volkeh: Cool. Now let me project my shattered life and yell slurs to the high heavens while I try to find reasons to insult you guys and make you rage, despite the fact that all of you are incredibly stable and capable of disputing my point easily.
You see Batman, people say video games cause violence, when in reality it is usually the parents showing their children violence, and the violence breeds violence. Joker, you killed a family of 5
Bowl was on such a goddamn streak in this one that I could barely even pay attention to what others were saying. But still, videogames don't cause violence. They actually reduce violent behaviour, and there were many studies that prove this. Humanity is violent, so most of our entertainment or art revolves around violence. In the end, it has to be this way.
I completely agree with Goblin about moms being fun-deprived, or rather, fun-deprived moms hate it when their kids are having fun playing video games. My mom always made me do chore or ask me if I've finished my chores whenever I'm having fun too much or too loudly, even when I finished my responsibilities beforehand. Besides, sometimes you need to have a bit of fun b4 doing chores in order to loosen up and recharge ur batteries in preparation for the mundane stuff you have to do.
I disagree (as a child) doing fun things after chores feels more rewarding and the looming gloom of needing to do chores later isnt there.but who cares the comment is 2 years old
Videogames don't cause violence. People are just violent by nature. Anyone can break something when they're frustrated. Anyone can harass someone literally for nothing. It's not the games' fault. It's a parenting issue. Parents must teach their children to control their violent outbursts. All of this reminds me when I broke my table and some bones in my arm and both legs with some ribs while playing Animal Crossing. Good times.
@@PatrickRatman Really. I also lost that arm while playing Angry Birds on my phone. Then I broke four of my fingers on the second hand while trying to understand how to walk in Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and now I'm typing that message with my nose. I love life.
Rather than one causing the other, I think they’re probably both caused by something else. I think it’s more likely that people who are already predisposed to violence end up playing violent games, rather than violent games “creating” violent urges in people who would otherwise be peaceful. If anything, violent games seem like a healthier outlet for violent urges.
Yeah, it's like throwing beds across the room or destroying your keyboard after getting stupid teammate, it's to "vent" your frustation. The difference is in the game your action has no consequences, so its safer to do
@@stzechmagenta1340 Bro i swear that invention of video games caused decrease of criminality in society. Just compare current times to 90's with all the gangs and pickpocket bandits, It's still a thing in some places in the world, but it's deffinetly not as common as it was before, not to mention the general agression in older times (boys beating themselfs on daily basis). I think that video games are a much safer way of exhausting your violent urges, because why would you go out of your way to hurt real human being when you can murder THOUSANDS of fictional characters whenever you want without any consequences or feeling bad afterwards.
Man, I forgot how much I loved Goblin. Immediate answers with clear and concise reasoning, with humor that contributes to their points rather than subtract from their impact.
@@KaroxNightshade Nah, I think that could've been a genuine thing. I could see myself making that statement in that kind of conversation, lol. Though, I guess I can get kinda defensive in general when I feel like someone's accusing me of something that I feel like I've got nothing to do with.
Paraphrasing here: "If your kid shot up a school after playing GTA, then there was already something wrong with them from the start" If your kid thought calling people slurs after playing GTA is fine, then that's a reasonable argument but if they go on a killing spree, that's different.
That would be correlation, not causation. At no point in GTA does any character - not even Trevor - shoot up a person. How would they even fit one into a syringe?
Yes. Did you watch a movie about sucide and suddendly think you should sucide ? Now how many phrases in movies you found cool to use yourself ? Not every idea can be put down in your brain easily. It's not a game that is gonna erase basic human consideration.
My mom has started playing video games and has actually been complaining about minute things less, and I was violent before I even played pokemon, so i’d say video games decrease violence.
My mother used to borrow my game boy to play tetris.... what, 30 years ago? ... Maybe that's why she wasn't into gossiping much, she was too busy playing videogames
The fact that Volkeh has a discord server is… concerning. I always viewed video games as a healthy way to release anger and violent tensions, but it becomes a problem when video games are confused with reality.
As somebody who plays videogames all day, I do admit Goblin Tyrant does make some good points. However, the main issue of online PvP play (which makes up the majority of games) still falls as a societal issue. Countries around the world simply need to learn civility in an online setting, just as much as they would school and better parenting. Plus, both my parents were involved in what games I played and how I played them. When Fable 2 wasn't there to guilt trip me over killing animals senselessly in Skyrim, my dad was there to point that out with just an idle, off-hand comment. Now I just kill animals and use their corpses as a means to distract bandits so I can get free hits on them.
@@alicorn3924 He's actually just a goofy tech nerd who is xenophobic in the sense that he kills fictional aliens within the thousands on a weekly basis, and sticks his nuts in the mouths of competitors he is irked with. I invented the necromancy idea myself a little after. Don't worry. They all respawn in the end. (Fr tho, we played the entire Halo series together, and we kinda split when I had more interest in PvE and storytelling.)
Goblin proved crimson's point so hard lmao. "We say stuff that obviously doesn't apply to all men and some guy gets defensive and says he doesn't do that." "We don't do that."
Video games don’t cause violence, violent people cause violence. If a violent person with violent tendencies plays a violent video game, then they are violent
@@robinrehlinghaus1944 If it helps, the main difference for guns is that guns are used to inflict real violence on real people. With video games, the worst you can realistically do is chuck a controller at somebody.
A former coworker of one day went full gen Z on our boss, talking about she's being treated like a slave (she was scheduled 40 hours her first week) and all she did was was call in because her roommates were fighting all night and she's tired lol
Honestly I really like Volkeh , the incel energy he ooze everytime he is typing is funny. I also like his dynamic with Funrir both of them crack me up. For the question tho I still think videogames don't cause violence. But some type game may have theme that attract violent people , CoD or other war game hit the sweet spot for people who are part of gun culture good or bad.
If I had a nickel for every time Ace Attorney was referenced or name drop during the discussions, I would have two. Which isn't a lot, but considering the format of the videos, it's weird it only occurred twice so far.
@@imstupid7614 what's weird is that the times they were mentioned felt natural to include and the other time, that being Gen Z love video, may have been like a jojo esque reference where, at face value isn't a reference, but overthink it enough and it does. Said reference I'm referring to is FC hypothetical where an artist and lawyer grow to love each. FC literally could've used any other career yet FC chose lawyer. Coincidence? Probably, but that's what I mean about it being a reference to Ace Attorney without actually referring to it, like with Coincidental jojo references
Bowl plays such a good character in this, it almost feels scripted. His jokes are on point and the exaggerated hateful mindset ties in very well with his persona, love it.
theres like no chance this will be seen by the people who brought it up but tbh I think the main thing about music / movies not getting backlash is it's a string of cultural trends. There's been (and probably still is) that major group of people who thought rock and roll was a gateway to satanism, and I vaguely remember there being a case in history where people had to deliberately say "Hey, stop romanticizing gangster movies making the gang life seem actually appealing". Video games / games in general are just the next progression of that cultural trend, which is why theres less focus on music and movies and all that jazz.
well, jazz actually had a lot of discussion when white people began hearing and playing it, because it was a “dirty black people act to manipulate the pure”. now even the conservative people like jazz a lot.
And then you get Brazilian funk, wich is unironically the most sexist thing ever and because it's done majorly by "poor"(the big ones are RICH) black people, well, feminists and the whole progressive train don't criticize it, but do it to Pagode which is also done majorly by black musicians but is not as strong nowadays and the lyrics are just more conservative rather than literally objectifying woman
You could argue that women want to make it about them just as much, though. The issue, on it's own, is misrepresentation in media. If you look at films and romantic comedies especially, you'll find the same level of hypersexualizaton and blatantly unrealistic male love interests as you do of females in video games. Men and women despise media for the same reason, yet you can't get both to agree that the opposite gender is represented that poorly. Men want a mother and a counselor that will just fix them, while women want a father and a counselor that will just fix them. The difference is that one is accepted while the other is not. My point is, this is an issue that effects ALL OF US but somehow we've made it almost entirely about women.
Most men admire and are inspired by men in media, meanwhile the women who are complaining feels envy when seeing a woman "better" than them. Men:"I want to be more like that guy" Women:"There's no way I can be like that"
Videogames cause laziness sometimes, but not violence. Also I have to wonder if the reason this argument has persisted this long is because whenever it's brought up, it never really goes anywhere. That could go for any online dispute, but this specifically stands out to me.
I think a lot of people are deprived and fill that hole in their hearts with hobbies Videogames just happen to take up a lot more time than being a sports fan tho i think we all have seen how disgustingly toxic sports fans get I struggle with generalized anxiety disorder and I've never really met anyone in real life i can relate to I think for many years videogames where the only thing that's kept me going lol I think I've literally said to myself "I know you want to die but make that decision after the next total warhammer dlc comes out" People get defensive about videogames because it's kind of like criticising someone's pet dog It's innocent and you love it! It's a goodboy and never bit anyone And of course people can get addicted but I'd say You've probably never seen video game addiction ever People literally play until they die when they're addicted because they sit for so long toxins build up in their knees so when they stand up they get bombarded Playing for 12 hours isn't addiction It's about as valuable as anything else when there's nothing better to do Id say it's more valuable than watching TV since video games are an active experience and watching a movie is passive Tho i guess there's a problem with an active experience that doesn't make you tired Idk maaaan
As a gamer mom who has been playing video games since I was a child (I think 1998), video games definitely do not cause sexism or violence. (I'll write a TL;DR version of my comment at the bottom) Growing up, I mostly played Crash Bandicoot and T-rated fighting games (because my parents were smart enough to read the damn box); the big one for me was Tekken. A game that's nothing but violence but also had good female representation. When I was approaching my tween years, I was able to play more mature games like Mortal Kombat and Blood+Rayne, and those games have badass women in it. One might give it flag because of the skimpy outfits but I never saw them as sexual; honestly, I thought they were wrestling/ninja costumes. Which brings me to my final point: I never even knew representation was supposed to be a thing until two kinds of people brought it up. 1) Women who never played video games and only saw games like GTA. and 2) Men who have only played games that appeal to the male fantasy of saving the damsel in distress and being the hero. The first one is very obvious why their arguments don't work so I won't waste time on them. The second one is also wrong for different reasons. I want to be very clear: I'm not against men who play games with a weak female character they have to save as a reward. If that's your fantasy, more power to you; especially since dating sims for women basically do the same thing. However, whenever the question "why are there no good female representation in games?" comes up, male gamers say it's because that's what the market calls for and this answer is both right and wrong. It's right because most gamers are male, so if a company wants to make a quick buck they're going to pander to that and it's wrong because it makes it seem like that's all games have to offer. There have been plenty of good female characters since the dawn of video games and some were even main characters that don't even show off their bodies. Have you guys not heard of Samus Aran?! And even the ones that were played up as sexy, again, no one cared except for angry moms and horny teenagers/lonely men. However, I do think a lot of sheltered men play these games for unhealthy reasons and don't even believe there are female gamers out there because the only women they know are the ones in games or their mothers who hate video games. So in a way, I can see why they think like that. No joke, I once spent an hour trying to convince a guy online I was a girl but he never believed me no matter how much evidence I brought up. He just kept insisting that I was a little boy or a trans-woman. 🙄 TL;DR Female non-gamers and obsessed male gamers have different opinions but have the same mindset about video games and just need to make-out or something and leave everyone else alone. And sorry if my comment was long, I really did try to keep it short while making a point as best as I could.
The reasons people play games are most likely the same reason why they watch a movie or read a book, because it appeals to them. Ahhhh scapegoating really is such a old trick in society's book.
I thought this was going to be a real discussion, and it was legitimately just 15 straight minutes of everyone's humour being absolutely on point and bouncing off each other really well. Man I need to have more conversations online I only get conversations worthy of turning into objection content every few months.
10:31 I've seen this argument a couple times and I'm just here thinking... do these people actually exist? Circumstantial evidence aside, I've never seen a single one of these people. And assuming they DO exist, they wouldn't even be remotely involved in the outside world enough for people to care this much. The idea that someone sitting in a room playing video games all day instead of getting a life could elicit a reaction more in-depth than a simple "what a virgin" is kind of ridiculous because they literally have nothing to do with you. Spending more than a couple minutes and a fraction of effort acknowledging their existence is arguably less productive - and ironically more obsessive - than even they are. To make it simple, can you point to a single person that "worships videogames like they are god", and if you can, why on earth do you care?
Slightly related I have heard of people taking video games way too seriously in a real life concept ie believing they are the character and etc. Like the Final Fantasy House.
I forgot how bowl acts until his response to volkehs angry essay towards him was just "Mm. Monke" and was violently reminded exactly how he acts in these videos 💀
I'm pretty sure there's quite a possibility violent video games can reduce violence, since people can vent their frustrations on the video game, then they don't feel the need to vent it physically(which would cause actual damage, and is also considered violence).
I feel like there was a lot of people talking past each other and trying to make 2 unrelated points mutually exclusive. “Video games have unappreciated value” and “there is a disturbing trend of less-than-noble men obsessed with video games that the larger community pretends do not exist” can both be true at the same time.
Huh, some of the funniest work from the channel, Bowl was on fire as usual but its a shame this conversation didn't get as deep as I hoped for. The start peaked my interest though, I know the server isn't all American but a gun control discussion would be interesting to see.
Heh… *pops joints in neck* “get a life” is as much of an insult as “you are stupid” the implication is there, that the individual must not have a life/must be stupid, because another declared so without proper knowledge of one’s days. Furthermore, do some people need to get a life? Maybe, what does getting a life imply, however? What must one have to have a life?
Well according to research from Japan ,korea and American Most kids or teens who play video games tend to release there anger on the game them like shouting or idk ,rather than in people. And it actually decreases violence.
The rating system for games and movies, at least in America, is run by anonymous groups of parents who are all very inconsistent when it comes to rating the stuff. Sometimes sex scenes in movies? NC-17 rating. Other times, PG-13. Sometimes a game with weapons of cartoonish mass destruction get an E-10+ rating like Worms. Other times it gets skyrocketed up into M for some odd reason. Makes sense though, when you consider how much the feelings differ from suburban parent to suburban parent on what they are all right with their kids consuming.
"Growing up playing violent video games might make someone more insensitive to violence in the future" I felt awful for killing a rat as part of pest control, and for the next two days, whenever I saw a rat in anything, media or pictures, I thought of *that* rat. Grew up watching and playing violent video games. There are absolutely going to be exceptions to my results, but I imagine this is about the average. You're not just going to feel nothing when you see a dead animal or person, or have an extremely muted reaction to it.
I think that the "violence" is actually caused by the extra immersion. You can associate more with a game than with a book, and so your brain behaves in that context. Said context can't really affect you because even the worst a game can go can make you unhappy for like a couple hours and then it's all ok. So, since the brain is acting in a context where there are no real consequences, people are more rude with their immediate reactions, because their brains "don't switch back" to the irl context. Although, this can also be said for social media, so it's more of an approach problem rather than a "videogames = violence"
Goblin Tyrant is slowly becoming my favorite of the entire cast. And that's tough to say because Bowl and FC are great too. (Edit: I really like the entire cast tho. They just happen to resonate with me the most.) So it's kind of a bummer he's not on the server. But I think I'll try anyway. Great video about a subject that always got on my nerves...
1) "Videogames cause violence" -> * open any serious Hystory book * -> Nope. 2) "Videogames are violent" -> there are a lot of non-violent games, so no, not inherently 3) "Violent people are the one consuming violent games" -> Just Catharsis. Even if true (it's not) it shelters violent people indoors, where they can't really hurt anyone, so they are a good thing overall. 4) "Many videogames over-sexualize women" -> They are a product, and sex sells, this is a well-known fact. Blame society for it. 5) "Gamers get defensive when videogames are criticized" -> passionate people get defensive when their passion is criticized.
@@lyonsin2535 America has a deep-rooted cultural obsession with social media, which glorifies vanity and fleeting moments of fame, leading impressionable young people to act out, recreating dangerous fads in the pursuit of their spotlight. This also applies to mass shooters, as they oftentimes simply want to feel that their life means something, so they use our obsession with media against us, knowing news programs and other outlets will be covering the story, which they believe will give them some semblance of control in their lives. Only the extremely mentally-ill or stupid would ever be inspired to violence by a videogame.
at this point i don't know what i love more, Bowl's controversial but beautiful speeches, Volkeh's "intense" rants and "roasts", or Faux absolutely killing it with their arguments
I don't think videogames causes people to be violent, but they make people find out how much violent they can be, when I was younger I used to rage a LOT when playing video games, yet my parents did not take them away from me, they complained about my behavior while playing, I was ashamed of myself and now I'm a LOT more chill, yet, while playing or not, I can get VERY violent, but that's not because of games, that's because that's who I am, videogames did not make me violent, they made me know how much violent I can get. And yeah, some parent should just try and teach their kids, having something restricted from you makes you want it more, then you get those room goblins never leaving, and having their lives being all videogames (there can be exceptions) I do not only play videogames because is all I ever seen I have, but because is all my parents made me have, I could never go outside because my parents were scared something bad could happen, and developed a fear to the outside and strangers, making me almost unable to buy something from an old lady outside school even if I was starving, I do not blame my parents, because they wanted me to be safe, and slowly I'm getting used to the outside world, if you dont want your kids to only be able to play videogames, then instead of just complaining or taking them away, SHOW them what else there is to this world.
Lord, this was a god tier combo; even though my views don't totally align with Goblin's in this, he's just really fun to watch, not to mention that Volkeh, Funrir and Bowl squabbling are a fantastically abstruse sight to behold. Truly the biggest crossover since Avengers:Endgame. One of the funniest videos so far - though, I say that about like, every second video you make...Truly a wombo-combo of absurdity. I love this channel and everyone who partakes in these videos, genuinely.
This vid here gave made me love bowls character so much dude I just love his style of humor man especially when your toked out man this shit is amazing I wanna go back to older vids now to re-examine his jokes before now
I feel like it depends on the piece of media, who made it, and what they are trying to say. Violet, sexist, homophobic (basically volkeh.) people tend to make media that might teach those bad values which in turn harms people. But if it’s something harmless like stardew valley or Mario Kart than it’s perfectly fine. Violent people cause media that causes violence. There is also a degree of bad parenting involved.
Violence causes videogames!
This is unironically true.
exactly
True, we wouldn’t have call of duty, battlefield, or any game like that without real life conflicts.
This is how the latest call of duty games are made. Activision keeps starting conflicts in order to keep sales up.
Women cause videogames!
"I'm gay. Not LGBT though, they hate me. I'm too homophobic."
I absolutely adore Bowl's bullshittery.
SAME
Yes
Bowl's bullshit, or Bowlshit, if you will,
It's bullshit, but i relate to it
I'm homosexual.
The second I start talking about how our world has fallen and become corrupted, how the socialism proposed by Marx failed in the mission of saving us from the current capitalist system and that the French Revolution was a mistake, they suddenly start attacking me
Studies show that
1) Even the confused, hormone-driven mind of a teenager can differentiate between fictional violence and real violence
2) videogames cause no more aggression than watching sports or losing at chess
I relate to point number 1 too much.
Both can be wrong or right. A teenager can think it's fine to shoot because of a game (already happened) and video games can , again, cause a stronger reaction because of the immersion. They can also change someone for the better or cause less agression because there would be less stress than in a competition. It all depends on the game, and yes some types of games are more to blame than others.
@@lasody1766 If they think it fine to shoot someone because of a video game then you prove it's the parents fault. They could think the same thing from watching a movie. That shows they already had a problem, not the video game
@@lasody1766 that's a mental dissorder m8, not the game's fault.
To say it's the game's fault there has to be a repeating & consistent pattern...
@@lasody1766 When someone can't differentiate between the fiction of videogames, movies or books, it is time to see a psychiatrist. Though I could agree that if a child somehow isn't taught moral values it may come to some wrong conclusions about the world.
I love Volkeh.
Not because he's actually likeable, but because he can get people in even the most divisive debates to unite and collectively bully him, and he's too much of a jackass for anyone to sympathize.
Everyone: "I wonder, do video games cause crimes?"
Volkeh: "OHOHOHOHO YOU MISERABLE ************************ and ******************** you pieces of ****************** LMAOOOOOOOZHGHSDJHGASD"
@@rnaodmsomething help why does that remind me of sweetheart from omori
@@rnaodmsomething volken did
1) justified staying indoor
2) said the N-word completely gratuitusly
3) wished sexual assault on an hypotetical person for no reason other than them existing
4) and mentioned the grindset unironically
within the same sentence and afther getting the lightest taunting in some of these videos
he is just built differently and he is completely uninjed
@@venleos He's so haughty, it might just match her, and yes I did think of the sweetheart "OHOHOHOHOHOHO" while writing that.
@@davidegaruti2582 constructed in redundant techniques
GT: "Are videogames inherently bad?"
Volkeh: "Mobile games are..."
Probably the most intelligent and reasonable thing Volkeh has ever said.
It was also three words. 🤣
@@naproupi Or maybe, just maybe, it was a joke, and you shouldn't go so darn deep into your interpretation.
I mean I even play mobile games, so if anyone is straw-manning here, it's you my dude.
He was also kinda on point about online classes eradicating shootings
@@danielsurvivor1372 the only thing about online classes that i like is the fact that i can play games without people knowing
Otherwise, screw them.
cookie run:
"Most gays love men because they're homosexual"
"I am a homosexual because I hate women"
"We are not the same"
-Bowl, 10/8/2022
Fun Fact: That was the unironic reason for some ancient gayness
Bowl is the evil gay.
Bowl-8/10/2022
rule britannia
Okay, we all know the answer to this: video games don’t cause violence, but lag definitely does.
That is the true pain.
So the solution to widespread violence is to give everyone 100 Gb/s wi-fi. Got it.
It's not really the lag, it's the fact that something completely out of your control is affecting your performance. It's for this reason that I propose we give up on EA ever upgrading their servers and have community hosted ones, because they'll run better and hopefully I won't have 120 ping on Apex Legends.
@@egg_addict I think you just described utopia. Like, Minecraft before Microsoft fucked it up.
@@egg_addict Me playing FPS Roblox games 5 years ago with an average 600 ping (300 ping if god felt like it one day). Interestingly, that resulted in me not lashing out violently, but getting depressed like hell and be a sad mess.
Basically me cry when yellow Lego men kill me through wall on ~600 ping 😭
“I prefer not to interact with them and focus on the grind”
Does Volkeh genuinely think he is a Sigma male? Everyone knows the sigma of this group is Harry.
Harry is an Omega Male as he is the end of all things.
@@Glory2Snowstar And Volkh is too putrid to even be considered a person.
Volkeh is from 4chan, doxxed a motherfucker, and leaked someone’s nudes. Calling him a sigma male would be like calling Charlie Zelenoff the greatest Boxer ever.
No the sigma of this group is Bowl
S i g m a
“Bowl thinks Americans should give bullies guns so they can defend themselves from school shooters” Ah yes, the definitive battle.
STRONGEST WILL SURVIVE
the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny
I just love how Volkeh is always instant seething and coping.
The insult was not even that big and he goes into a giant tangent lmao
Volkeh gotta learn how to take a hit, I guess. Can't go dishing it out and get triggered when it backfires.
@@Spiritnick definitely not, this video was one of the funniest I’ve seen in a while and half of it was Volkeh’s sudden tangents or related to him xD
Don’t agree with the guy but I hope he never changes, in the context of appearing in these videos of course
@@kingtreedede7303 Fair point. If he learned how to take a hit, we'd lose half the comedy
normally his "people" (aka his community of 4chan-ers) always yell "cope, seethe, dilate" or whatever bullshit they can muster up
Real life Miu Iruma
"Video games doesnt cause violence" Dumbledore said CALMLY.
“That’s not grammatically correct,” Grammarly said passive-aggressively
@@Apples32 bruh..
Bowl and Volkeh are opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to trolling. Bowl is harmless, he makes jokes such as being homophobic and being a psychopath and being pro gun violence and such, but by the end of the day it takes some effort to be offended by what he says and everyone laughs about it. Volkeh intends to hurt people with what he says for his own amusement, and he's the only one laughing. Nobody likes it, everyone hates him. Troll like Bowl, not Volkeh.
Bowl is god tier
Volkeh is Z tier lmaoooo
I mean volkeh likes it
Nah Volkeh based no cap
You have to admit that Volkehs in-game character is funny as hell because it's fitting for his lunatic viewpoints.
Bowls entire being almost has a sense of humor to him anyways, almost as if he's like the class clown. His delivery of lines, even if it's only the droning beeps of ace attorney, feel funny and sarcastic.
PRESENTATION
Honestly I think nobody in these videos are fully human.
FC: Rogue android
Bowl: Result of obscene bio-engineering
Goblin Tyrant: Intelligent goblin
Volkeh: Vampire that feeds on the annoyance of others
Harry: Enlightened despotic artificial intelligence
Cleophoebs: Forest creature made out of mushrooms, pine cones, and sunlight (edit: Siren)
Gringo: Alien from outer space conducting a wildly unsuccessful study
I'm a siren actually
Is Gringo the only human being?
@@lighthouse3138 no, its american
@@lighthouse3138 gringo is an alien who is studying human culture with the worst group of test subjects on the planet
@@cleophoebe6385 really? Damn I was going with wood nymph
Volkeh is truly, comedic relief. Though there's an added psychic damage buff.
The greentexting killed me, it was wonderful.
I'm seriously half-convinced that he's playing a character to generate arguments, he feels too comically insane to be real.
And trust me, I've SEEN some wackos in my time.
"That's my favourite thing about Minecraft: The only female character in it is the witch which you are *encouraged* to beat to death*"
Volkeh is built different in the worst way possible
Its hard to tell if he's being genuinely serious, like, at all
@@goobertron9132 ok but low-key that’s kinda funny tho
Volkeh is chaotic evil
Just remembered the fact that one american shop - I don’t remember the name right now - banned videogames with guns while selling guns in the store itself.
I think we can see the problem here…
Walmart?
@@MM126.90 Yeah, it was Walmart! I didn’t remember ‘cause I’m not american.
Yeah, pointless virtue signaling coming from a company worth billions attempting to influence people. Kind of spreading like a disease nowadays when you think about it.
Ease of access?
Volkeh is a walking joke. If he’s playing a character he’s doing a good job being comedic relief, if he isn’t and actually takes himself seriously it becomes f*cking hilarious.
Everyone else: Trying to have serious/lighthearted discussion
Volkeh: Cool. Now let me project my shattered life and yell slurs to the high heavens while I try to find reasons to insult you guys and make you rage, despite the fact that all of you are incredibly stable and capable of disputing my point easily.
Volkeh is what you would call a lousy troll.
@@Corpse701 not even lousy, just lazy
Bowl was being a true agent of chaos though
Not "despite," but "because of"
Imagine getting mad over volkeh lmao his comments are the funniest of them all
I can't tell if Volkeh is being satirical or genuine and that scares me
He's genuine. I just censor him to make him funny.
He has proved multiple times to be genuine
He is unfornatly genuine. Would feel sad for him is he wasn't so insanely vile.
@@frenchbaguetteintelligence I'm pretty new to this channel, these are real conversations you have with people on discord?
@@mattd5240 I'm not a representative of the channel by any means, but yes.
You see Batman, people say video games cause violence, when in reality it is usually the parents showing their children violence, and the violence breeds violence.
Joker, you killed a family of 5
This isn’t about them
"Batman, stop projecting..."
Bowl was on such a goddamn streak in this one that I could barely even pay attention to what others were saying. But still, videogames don't cause violence. They actually reduce violent behaviour, and there were many studies that prove this.
Humanity is violent, so most of our entertainment or art revolves around violence. In the end, it has to be this way.
Yet staring across this barren wasted land
@@NSEBMB I feel new life will born beneath the bloodstained sand
@@GanyuSimpingDegenerate Cucumber
Beneath the blood stained sand
“All I’m saying is…GIVE WAR A CHANCE!”
I completely agree with Goblin about moms being fun-deprived, or rather, fun-deprived moms hate it when their kids are having fun playing video games. My mom always made me do chore or ask me if I've finished my chores whenever I'm having fun too much or too loudly, even when I finished my responsibilities beforehand. Besides, sometimes you need to have a bit of fun b4 doing chores in order to loosen up and recharge ur batteries in preparation for the mundane stuff you have to do.
Parents that just want power over children are the worst. Just because you see parenting as a job doesn't mean childhood should become one.
I disagree (as a child) doing fun things after chores feels more rewarding and the looming gloom of needing to do chores later isnt there.but who cares the comment is 2 years old
Videogames don't cause violence. People are just violent by nature. Anyone can break something when they're frustrated. Anyone can harass someone literally for nothing. It's not the games' fault. It's a parenting issue. Parents must teach their children to control their violent outbursts.
All of this reminds me when I broke my table and some bones in my arm and both legs with some ribs while playing Animal Crossing. Good times.
out of all the games though, animal crossing??? i actually never bothered to play it cause i cant be bothered to own a switch but... really?
@@PatrickRatman Really. I also lost that arm while playing Angry Birds on my phone. Then I broke four of my fingers on the second hand while trying to understand how to walk in Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and now I'm typing that message with my nose. I love life.
Yeah... Getting three stars in Angry Birds makes you an Angry Bird as well...
Damn, I thought my anger issues with video games where catastrophically bad, but at least I've never broken bones lol.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 This was a joke of course. I should've made it more obvious... eh
Rather than one causing the other, I think they’re probably both caused by something else. I think it’s more likely that people who are already predisposed to violence end up playing violent games, rather than violent games “creating” violent urges in people who would otherwise be peaceful. If anything, violent games seem like a healthier outlet for violent urges.
Yeah, it's like throwing beds across the room or destroying your keyboard after getting stupid teammate, it's to "vent" your frustation. The difference is in the game your action has no consequences, so its safer to do
@@stzechmagenta1340 until you break your $40,000 PC
@@stzechmagenta1340 Bro i swear that invention of video games caused decrease of criminality in society. Just compare current times to 90's with all the gangs and pickpocket bandits, It's still a thing in some places in the world, but it's deffinetly not as common as it was before, not to mention the general agression in older times (boys beating themselfs on daily basis). I think that video games are a much safer way of exhausting your violent urges, because why would you go out of your way to hurt real human being when you can murder THOUSANDS of fictional characters whenever you want without any consequences or feeling bad afterwards.
@@alicorn3924 Just don’t play multiplayer games. Greatly reduces the chance of ragequits.
@@sparkytepig XCOM disagrees.
Man, I forgot how much I loved Goblin. Immediate answers with clear and concise reasoning, with humor that contributes to their points rather than subtract from their impact.
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He did kinda prove the girl's point somewhat by his reactions though.
@@caiawlodarski5339"Men always make everything women say about them"
"I don't do that"
He's obviously being sarcastic, because he's funny.
@@KaroxNightshade Nah, I think that could've been a genuine thing. I could see myself making that statement in that kind of conversation, lol. Though, I guess I can get kinda defensive in general when I feel like someone's accusing me of something that I feel like I've got nothing to do with.
@@gaminggeckos4388 that's a human reaction, not an inherently male one.
Oh shit. Volkeh again?
He's truly like an evil nemesis, always defeated, but never dies.
“how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!”
I agreed with Volkeh until he started being Volkeh. The fact it didn't even take a minute hardly surprises me.
I wrote a paper in highschool about this because they designated "Violent Videogames" as a possible mental illness for children.
Paraphrasing here:
"If your kid shot up a school after playing GTA, then there was already something wrong with them from the start"
If your kid thought calling people slurs after playing GTA is fine, then that's a reasonable argument but if they go on a killing spree, that's different.
What if the kid thought shooting up people was okay after playing GTA?
@@horushyperion76 Then the kid was stupid and wasn't going to reach adulthood anyways.
That would be correlation, not causation. At no point in GTA does any character - not even Trevor - shoot up a person. How would they even fit one into a syringe?
@@bitingapotato3277 You got me.
Yes. Did you watch a movie about sucide and suddendly think you should sucide ?
Now how many phrases in movies you found cool to use yourself ?
Not every idea can be put down in your brain easily. It's not a game that is gonna erase basic human consideration.
My mom has started playing video games and has actually been complaining about minute things less, and I was violent before I even played pokemon, so i’d say video games decrease violence.
My mother used to borrow my game boy to play tetris.... what, 30 years ago?
...
Maybe that's why she wasn't into gossiping much, she was too busy playing videogames
@@diersteinjulien6773 Based gamer mom. Fuck them squares bro, they had it coming when they started grouping up together.
@@diersteinjulien6773 my grand mother was playing tetris too X)
Its all about healthy outlets
"I think Ace Attorney has a pretty good female cast"
How incredibly meta.
I wouldn’t say video games cause violence. But not having my video games will make me _pretty_ FUCKING VIOLENT.
That means no videogames causes violence
@@SimonWillRun We oughta be grateful video games are a thing then
@@MrTheil Yes
Hellsing abridged?
@@angryjelly7025 Yyyuup.
The fact that Volkeh has a discord server is… concerning. I always viewed video games as a healthy way to release anger and violent tensions, but it becomes a problem when video games are confused with reality.
he was probably pissed being banned so he just made his own so he couldn't be banned
This is just short for ‘Volkeh has a skill issue’
As somebody who plays videogames all day, I do admit Goblin Tyrant does make some good points. However, the main issue of online PvP play (which makes up the majority of games) still falls as a societal issue. Countries around the world simply need to learn civility in an online setting, just as much as they would school and better parenting.
Plus, both my parents were involved in what games I played and how I played them. When Fable 2 wasn't there to guilt trip me over killing animals senselessly in Skyrim, my dad was there to point that out with just an idle, off-hand comment. Now I just kill animals and use their corpses as a means to distract bandits so I can get free hits on them.
your dad must be a hunter, hitman, or both
@@alicorn3924 He's actually just a goofy tech nerd who is xenophobic in the sense that he kills fictional aliens within the thousands on a weekly basis, and sticks his nuts in the mouths of competitors he is irked with. I invented the necromancy idea myself a little after.
Don't worry. They all respawn in the end. (Fr tho, we played the entire Halo series together, and we kinda split when I had more interest in PvE and storytelling.)
Goblin proved crimson's point so hard lmao.
"We say stuff that obviously doesn't apply to all men and some guy gets defensive and says he doesn't do that."
"We don't do that."
He had to give her that one. It was too good a set-up to just let it pass. He's a true gentleman.
Video games don’t cause violence, violent people cause violence. If a violent person with violent tendencies plays a violent video game, then they are violent
Wait a minute that last statement make no sense. You already stated they are violent what changed?
@@horushyperion76 Nothing changed, that was the point.
@@gavinwilson5324 Thank you.
Same thing is said about guns... I mean, I don't necessarily fully disagree, butuhhh
@@robinrehlinghaus1944 If it helps, the main difference for guns is that guns are used to inflict real violence on real people. With video games, the worst you can realistically do is chuck a controller at somebody.
I was affraid when i didn't totally disagree with the first thing Volkeh said, luckily he was quickly back to normal
Volkeh is the insane Gen-z content gift that keeps on giving
A former coworker of one day went full gen Z on our boss, talking about she's being treated like a slave (she was scheduled 40 hours her first week) and all she did was was call in because her roommates were fighting all night and she's tired lol
Honestly I really like Volkeh , the incel energy he ooze everytime he is typing is funny. I also like his dynamic with Funrir both of them crack me up.
For the question tho I still think videogames don't cause violence.
But some type game may have theme that attract violent people , CoD or other war game hit the sweet spot for people who are part of gun culture good or bad.
Volkeh just randomly writing a thesis every 30 seconds is fuckin hilarious
If I had a nickel for every time Ace Attorney was referenced or name drop during the discussions, I would have two. Which isn't a lot, but considering the format of the videos, it's weird it only occurred twice so far.
XDDD
fr it feels like a fourth wall break, even though it‘s like, not
@@imstupid7614 what's weird is that the times they were mentioned felt natural to include and the other time, that being Gen Z love video, may have been like a jojo esque reference where, at face value isn't a reference, but overthink it enough and it does.
Said reference I'm referring to is FC hypothetical where an artist and lawyer grow to love each. FC literally could've used any other career yet FC chose lawyer. Coincidence? Probably, but that's what I mean about it being a reference to Ace Attorney without actually referring to it, like with Coincidental jojo references
@@jackbandit5855 Wasn't it also referenced in the parenting debate?
@@efw-vz4hc I'll need to double check if you're right, I don't recall that video well
Bowl plays such a good character in this, it almost feels scripted. His jokes are on point and the exaggerated hateful mindset ties in very well with his persona, love it.
“I’m a lesbian, douchebag.”
“Is it because of videogames?”
I already can’t handle this 😂
theres like no chance this will be seen by the people who brought it up but tbh I think the main thing about music / movies not getting backlash is it's a string of cultural trends. There's been (and probably still is) that major group of people who thought rock and roll was a gateway to satanism, and I vaguely remember there being a case in history where people had to deliberately say "Hey, stop romanticizing gangster movies making the gang life seem actually appealing". Video games / games in general are just the next progression of that cultural trend, which is why theres less focus on music and movies and all that jazz.
well, jazz actually had a lot of discussion when white people began hearing and playing it, because it was a “dirty black people act to manipulate the pure”. now even the conservative people like jazz a lot.
And then you get Brazilian funk, wich is unironically the most sexist thing ever and because it's done majorly by "poor"(the big ones are RICH) black people, well, feminists and the whole progressive train don't criticize it, but do it to Pagode which is also done majorly by black musicians but is not as strong nowadays and the lyrics are just more conservative rather than literally objectifying woman
@@cherubin03 Can't really understand how sitting in a cock and repeating that is considered as music;
You could argue that women want to make it about them just as much, though. The issue, on it's own, is misrepresentation in media.
If you look at films and romantic comedies especially, you'll find the same level of hypersexualizaton and blatantly unrealistic male love interests as you do of females in video games. Men and women despise media for the same reason, yet you can't get both to agree that the opposite gender is represented that poorly.
Men want a mother and a counselor that will just fix them, while women want a father and a counselor that will just fix them.
The difference is that one is accepted while the other is not.
My point is, this is an issue that effects ALL OF US but somehow we've made it almost entirely about women.
Most men admire and are inspired by men in media, meanwhile the women who are complaining feels envy when seeing a woman "better" than them.
Men:"I want to be more like that guy"
Women:"There's no way I can be like that"
Ah, a tale as old as games themselves... _I look forward to these next 16 minutes & 37 seconds._
*_Oh god he's back_*
Nice pfp
@@Agile_Lorelei why thank you, my fellow cultured profile picture.
Videogames cause laziness sometimes, but not violence.
Also I have to wonder if the reason this argument has persisted this long is because whenever it's brought up, it never really goes anywhere. That could go for any online dispute, but this specifically stands out to me.
not sometimes, damn near always
I think a lot of people are deprived and fill that hole in their hearts with hobbies
Videogames just happen to take up a lot more time than being a sports fan tho i think we all have seen how disgustingly toxic sports fans get
I struggle with generalized anxiety disorder and I've never really met anyone in real life i can relate to
I think for many years videogames where the only thing that's kept me going lol
I think I've literally said to myself "I know you want to die but make that decision after the next total warhammer dlc comes out"
People get defensive about videogames because it's kind of like criticising someone's pet dog
It's innocent and you love it! It's a goodboy and never bit anyone
And of course people can get addicted but I'd say
You've probably never seen video game addiction ever
People literally play until they die when they're addicted because they sit for so long toxins build up in their knees so when they stand up they get bombarded
Playing for 12 hours isn't addiction
It's about as valuable as anything else when there's nothing better to do
Id say it's more valuable than watching TV since video games are an active experience and watching a movie is passive
Tho i guess there's a problem with an active experience that doesn't make you tired
Idk maaaan
@@crassiewassie8354 “breaking news: man was blinded after 72 hours of constant video game exposure as well as not blinking”.
As a gamer mom who has been playing video games since I was a child (I think 1998), video games definitely do not cause sexism or violence. (I'll write a TL;DR version of my comment at the bottom)
Growing up, I mostly played Crash Bandicoot and T-rated fighting games (because my parents were smart enough to read the damn box); the big one for me was Tekken. A game that's nothing but violence but also had good female representation.
When I was approaching my tween years, I was able to play more mature games like Mortal Kombat and Blood+Rayne, and those games have badass women in it. One might give it flag because of the skimpy outfits but I never saw them as sexual; honestly, I thought they were wrestling/ninja costumes.
Which brings me to my final point: I never even knew representation was supposed to be a thing until two kinds of people brought it up.
1) Women who never played video games and only saw games like GTA.
and 2) Men who have only played games that appeal to the male fantasy of saving the damsel in distress and being the hero.
The first one is very obvious why their arguments don't work so I won't waste time on them. The second one is also wrong for different reasons.
I want to be very clear: I'm not against men who play games with a weak female character they have to save as a reward. If that's your fantasy, more power to you; especially since dating sims for women basically do the same thing.
However, whenever the question "why are there no good female representation in games?" comes up, male gamers say it's because that's what the market calls for and this answer is both right and wrong.
It's right because most gamers are male, so if a company wants to make a quick buck they're going to pander to that and it's wrong because it makes it seem like that's all games have to offer.
There have been plenty of good female characters since the dawn of video games and some were even main characters that don't even show off their bodies. Have you guys not heard of Samus Aran?!
And even the ones that were played up as sexy, again, no one cared except for angry moms and horny teenagers/lonely men.
However, I do think a lot of sheltered men play these games for unhealthy reasons and don't even believe there are female gamers out there because the only women they know are the ones in games or their mothers who hate video games. So in a way, I can see why they think like that.
No joke, I once spent an hour trying to convince a guy online I was a girl but he never believed me no matter how much evidence I brought up. He just kept insisting that I was a little boy or a trans-woman. 🙄
TL;DR
Female non-gamers and obsessed male gamers have different opinions but have the same mindset about video games and just need to make-out or something and leave everyone else alone.
And sorry if my comment was long, I really did try to keep it short while making a point as best as I could.
I agree with everything here.
The reasons people play games are most likely the same reason why they watch a movie or read a book, because it appeals to them.
Ahhhh scapegoating really is such a old trick in society's book.
I thought this was going to be a real discussion, and it was legitimately just 15 straight minutes of everyone's humour being absolutely on point and bouncing off each other really well.
Man I need to have more conversations online I only get conversations worthy of turning into objection content every few months.
Everyones humor was at it's peak this video but I think Bowl absolutely stole the show with his gay sexism bit
Bowl:
"Funrir, Goblin left 3 hours ago..."
10:31 I've seen this argument a couple times and I'm just here thinking... do these people actually exist? Circumstantial evidence aside, I've never seen a single one of these people. And assuming they DO exist, they wouldn't even be remotely involved in the outside world enough for people to care this much.
The idea that someone sitting in a room playing video games all day instead of getting a life could elicit a reaction more in-depth than a simple "what a virgin" is kind of ridiculous because they literally have nothing to do with you. Spending more than a couple minutes and a fraction of effort acknowledging their existence is arguably less productive - and ironically more obsessive - than even they are.
To make it simple, can you point to a single person that "worships videogames like they are god", and if you can, why on earth do you care?
Slightly related I have heard of people taking video games way too seriously in a real life concept ie believing they are the character and etc.
Like the Final Fantasy House.
@@horushyperion76 i mean,i think that's called roleplay lmao
@@thatoneundertalefanatic Nah bro they believe they were the reincarnation or something of the game character. it like a cult of the sorts.
@@horushyperion76 Oof yeah true. Didn't think about that
“I think men tend to make everything women say about themselves.”
*I don’t do that!*
“I’m not talking about you.” LMFAOOO
Bowl has truly stolen my heart with his transcendantly based takes, and lack of shits to give.
you ever wonder why volkeh's name was so similar to "vodka"?
because it always seems like the guy's drunk
I forgot how bowl acts until his response to volkehs angry essay towards him was just "Mm. Monke" and was violently reminded exactly how he acts in these videos 💀
Oh boy, it’s volkeh again is it? It’s like he’s omnipresent, he’s there when you never want him to be.
LMAO Volkeh getting triggered over Bowl is hilarious
I'm pretty sure there's quite a possibility violent video games can reduce violence, since people can vent their frustrations on the video game, then they don't feel the need to vent it physically(which would cause actual damage, and is also considered violence).
volkeh is like a force of nature
I feel like there was a lot of people talking past each other and trying to make 2 unrelated points mutually exclusive. “Video games have unappreciated value” and “there is a disturbing trend of less-than-noble men obsessed with video games that the larger community pretends do not exist” can both be true at the same time.
Huh, some of the funniest work from the channel, Bowl was on fire as usual but its a shame this conversation didn't get as deep as I hoped for.
The start peaked my interest though, I know the server isn't all American but a gun control discussion would be interesting to see.
Heh… *pops joints in neck* “get a life” is as much of an insult as “you are stupid” the implication is there, that the individual must not have a life/must be stupid, because another declared so without proper knowledge of one’s days. Furthermore, do some people need to get a life? Maybe, what does getting a life imply, however? What must one have to have a life?
Whatever they think it's about, which often misses the point entirely
Well according to research from Japan ,korea and American
Most kids or teens who play video games tend to release there anger on the game them like shouting or idk ,rather than in people.
And it actually decreases violence.
The rating system for games and movies, at least in America, is run by anonymous groups of parents who are all very inconsistent when it comes to rating the stuff. Sometimes sex scenes in movies? NC-17 rating. Other times, PG-13. Sometimes a game with weapons of cartoonish mass destruction get an E-10+ rating like Worms. Other times it gets skyrocketed up into M for some odd reason. Makes sense though, when you consider how much the feelings differ from suburban parent to suburban parent on what they are all right with their kids consuming.
The exact same thing is true for movies as well
Bowl as always pure gold, gotta love that guy.
Also I can't get over how fitting Luke Atmey is for Volkeh.
Another gold mine to add to the collection. I can't imagine lurking in the server and seeing this go down and not want to laugh your ass off.
Every video on this channel is hilarious. I don't know many people on youtube that are consistently funny.
I nearly spat out my gazpacho when Volkeh started to spit dem illegal bars
"the only female in the game is a witch"
ender dragon being canonicaly female:"am i a joke to you?"
That doesn't disprove his point that you're encouraged to kill them.
No. It does occasionally cause fury, though.
"Get a life"
*Goblin is triggered *
Volkeh: "LMAO!!!1!!"
"You need a life too"
*Volkeh is triggered *
"Growing up playing violent video games might make someone more insensitive to violence in the future"
I felt awful for killing a rat as part of pest control, and for the next two days, whenever I saw a rat in anything, media or pictures, I thought of *that* rat.
Grew up watching and playing violent video games.
There are absolutely going to be exceptions to my results, but I imagine this is about the average. You're not just going to feel nothing when you see a dead animal or person, or have an extremely muted reaction to it.
9:00 I love the use of Edgeworths theme right as funrir FINALLY stops typing, it's so fitting
I think that the "violence" is actually caused by the extra immersion. You can associate more with a game than with a book, and so your brain behaves in that context. Said context can't really affect you because even the worst a game can go can make you unhappy for like a couple hours and then it's all ok. So, since the brain is acting in a context where there are no real consequences, people are more rude with their immediate reactions, because their brains "don't switch back" to the irl context. Although, this can also be said for social media, so it's more of an approach problem rather than a "videogames = violence"
Pyrovision goggles.
The problem isn't violent video games, it's people who think anyone who plays one will try to do whatever is done in the game.
Me after seeing volkeh: *ah shit, here we go again*
Volkeh is an infinite source of laughter and stupidity
This is Bowl's masterpiece, probably one of the funniest videos even if the topic is kinda serious
Volkeh couldn't go a minute without ⅔ of his sentence being censored
Goblin Tyrant is slowly becoming my favorite of the entire cast.
And that's tough to say because Bowl and FC are great too. (Edit: I really like the entire cast tho. They just happen to resonate with me the most.)
So it's kind of a bummer he's not on the server. But I think I'll try anyway.
Great video about a subject that always got on my nerves...
1) "Videogames cause violence" -> * open any serious Hystory book * -> Nope.
2) "Videogames are violent" -> there are a lot of non-violent games, so no, not inherently
3) "Violent people are the one consuming violent games" -> Just Catharsis. Even if true (it's not) it shelters violent people indoors, where they can't really hurt anyone, so they are a good thing overall.
4) "Many videogames over-sexualize women" -> They are a product, and sex sells, this is a well-known fact. Blame society for it.
5) "Gamers get defensive when videogames are criticized" -> passionate people get defensive when their passion is criticized.
Didn't see the video yet, but most serious studies seem to agree:
No
Bowls gay rant at the 2/3 mark and until the video ends is hilarious
"YOU HURT MY FEELINGS
MY GAY FEELINGS"
Countries with high proportions of gamers actually have lower rates of violence, probably because videogames provide an outlet for their aggression.
Holy shit it's Nappa
*Cough* Japan
Hello Nappa from dragon _balls_ Z
Apparently America has a low amount of gamers then
@@lyonsin2535 America has a deep-rooted cultural obsession with social media, which glorifies vanity and fleeting moments of fame, leading impressionable young people to act out, recreating dangerous fads in the pursuit of their spotlight.
This also applies to mass shooters, as they oftentimes simply want to feel that their life means something, so they use our obsession with media against us, knowing news programs and other outlets will be covering the story, which they believe will give them some semblance of control in their lives.
Only the extremely mentally-ill or stupid would ever be inspired to violence by a videogame.
Honestly these videos are not just entertaining but also informative, I feel like I’ve learned a lot from this channel.
at this point i don't know what i love more, Bowl's controversial but beautiful speeches, Volkeh's "intense" rants and "roasts", or Faux absolutely killing it with their arguments
Volkeh is somehow more tame in this one, I'm happy that he's less irritating but also sad that he's less irritating.
I don't think videogames causes people to be violent, but they make people find out how much violent they can be, when I was younger I used to rage a LOT when playing video games, yet my parents did not take them away from me, they complained about my behavior while playing, I was ashamed of myself and now I'm a LOT more chill, yet, while playing or not, I can get VERY violent, but that's not because of games, that's because that's who I am, videogames did not make me violent, they made me know how much violent I can get.
And yeah, some parent should just try and teach their kids, having something restricted from you makes you want it more, then you get those room goblins never leaving, and having their lives being all videogames (there can be exceptions)
I do not only play videogames because is all I ever seen I have, but because is all my parents made me have, I could never go outside because my parents were scared something bad could happen, and developed a fear to the outside and strangers, making me almost unable to buy something from an old lady outside school even if I was starving, I do not blame my parents, because they wanted me to be safe, and slowly I'm getting used to the outside world, if you dont want your kids to only be able to play videogames, then instead of just complaining or taking them away, SHOW them what else there is to this world.
I love bowl. He is the comic relief we need and want. In contrast, Volkeh is the comic relief we don’t need or want.
"Listen here, you dense pseudo-royal f***: [every sound effect at once]"
-Volkeh, 2022
Oh man I'm only 1:30 in and I can already tell this is gonna be good
Watching your videos is like watching prison inmates yell across the room at each other from their cells, it's hilarious
Lord, this was a god tier combo; even though my views don't totally align with Goblin's in this, he's just really fun to watch, not to mention that Volkeh, Funrir and Bowl squabbling are a fantastically abstruse sight to behold. Truly the biggest crossover since Avengers:Endgame. One of the funniest videos so far - though, I say that about like, every second video you make...Truly a wombo-combo of absurdity. I love this channel and everyone who partakes in these videos, genuinely.
Volkeh and bowl are my favourite in these kind of videos
I like how focused this video is on Goblin and others that we don't see often. A nice change of pace
Goblin being the voice of reason for most of this made the sudden nord vpn joke even better.
No no, this checks out, I played Tetris one time and immediately wanted to kill all squares.
I always thought that video games do desensitize you to violence, but no more so than violent movies already do.
This vid here gave made me love bowls character so much dude I just love his style of humor man especially when your toked out man this shit is amazing I wanna go back to older vids now to re-examine his jokes before now
I feel like it depends on the piece of media, who made it, and what they are trying to say. Violet, sexist, homophobic (basically volkeh.) people tend to make media that might teach those bad values which in turn harms people. But if it’s something harmless like stardew valley or Mario Kart than it’s perfectly fine. Violent people cause media that causes violence. There is also a degree of bad parenting involved.
I forgot to add racist to describe volkeh but I don’t want to get rid of the heart from FBI so I’m adding a reply instead.
I can't believe I got to see Volkeh roast Funrir. That's got to be the most random shit I've seen all week.
I feel like Volkeh will never disappear from your videos.