What brand of skid loader mounted auger would you recommend for wood fence posts (building and replacing high-tensile electric fence posts)? Thank you.
Would high flow help a 10 inch auger to be less likely to stall in extremely hard soil? Seems like high flow spins the bit faster in reasonable density soil, but ultimately it won't have any more torque when digging in very hard dirt. Is this correct?
Very nice testing. round here only a carbide rock auger is needed. No frost and hardly any soil, just coral rock. Speed is useless on coral rock, just pressure and torque so your testing confirms what I have seen.
What exactly are you using? I just rented an auger for my skid steer and it’s digging at less than 1” per minute through frozen dirt. Theres no rock, it’s normal dirt, not super hard when not frozen.
A little more info. I’m on a Kubota ssv65. It’s really not even digging the frost I think the friction is slowing melting it then it pulling up the mud.
1" per minute is definitely not progress. 😲 We are using carbide coated pilot bits and carbide coated outer and inner teeth. There are some augers out there that have welded flighting at the beginning of the auger. If that gets bent it can be harder to go through the frozen ground.
Dan, Dan, Dan! Who came up with that test? I mean, frost? Really. I’d like to see a comparison in eroded Ozark mountain top soil. The flint and limestone rocks glued together with brick quality gumbo clay… packed down by glacial passes for eons. Now that’s a test! And… what’s the deal with those screw looking thingys? Iffen a guy wanted to earn his Man Card… he’d do what my daddy did to me. He handed me a clam shell auger with dull, bent spades and a 35Lb zinc mine drill bit. He pointed to two stakes in the ground and said, “I want them 3ft deep. I’ll be back at lunch to get you.” So, it is 9AM and the temperature is already 90f. The ground has been baking, without rain, for three weeks. I have an old 1/2 gallon glass milk jug with tap water in it, a pair of oversized leather gloves (with holes in every finger but the pinkies) and a straw cow boy hat. I’m ready… I break ground on the first hole.. at 6”, I hit my first rock. It’s about the size of a basketball… but leaves a crater the diameter of a VW Beetle. I am now down less than half way in just about an hour. I grab the drill bit crow bar and slam the point into the bottom of the hole…. My hands ring as I see the sickening puff of fresh chipped lime dust rise up… I bang it a half dozen times to see if it is a rock or a shelf. It’s at least as big as the crater! Did I mention to you that there was spring fed creek down the hill from where I was mining rocks? So, I take another swig of my rapidly depleting water supply and move to hole number 2. This one goes a bit better, I get down almost a foot before the first flint sparks notify me of their presence. But flint ain’t no match for my hunk of miners gear. It shatters into pieces just small enough that they didn’t fall out of the bent spoons of my clam shell digger. A sigh of relief, another drink and I’m punching away with my bar again. It goes well until I see that sickening plume of lime dust racing out of the hole toward my dads old work boots. Nope, they were on my feet. He wouldn’t let me dig holes in my tenny runners. That’s when it hits me… I’ve been digging for an hour and a half and I didn’t stop to take a leak once. Perhaps it is time to take a break. So, I do what every self respecting farm boy would do. I pee in the hole. Then, I turn and walk toward the only shade in sight. It happens to be at the spring fed creek just down the hill. When my dad came back, he stopped by the holes then drove right down to the creek. I wasn’t paying attention. In fact, I was floating on my back in the cool spring fed creek with only my tighty whiteys to separate me from clothed to nudist. He rudely separated me from the blissful enjoyment of my 10 minute break… turned into 90… by calmly asking, “Did you finish those holes already, boy?” I told him, “Not yet, I hit rocks. But, I peed in the hole and I’m waiting for it to soak in. Maybe it will loosen them up.” Well Dan I am sure you can imagine what happened next…, He pointed to my clothes, boots and empty water jug and said, “Gather up your stuff and let’s go grab some lunch.” You see, my dad grew up in the Ozarks and he’d dug his share of holes… on the way back to the house he told me, “Son I never thought to piss in the hole. After lunch, you can let me know if it worked!” Dan, iffen you wanna race those fancy dirt drills in a course that will separate the men from the boys… I know a hillside, above a spring fed creek that will do it. And, you won’t have to bring a Porta Potty because us Ozark farm boys know how to get by without one!
Well there you go! That sounds like dirt for an entirely different type of test. 😁 Out here you don't really want to add liquid to a hole when the temp is below zero--it has an effect but not the one you're looking for. 😏
best thing you can do with really dry soil is to run a sprinkler on it for a day... it's that or rent a dingo. I had one job I broke 2 little beavers trying to go through it and ended up renting a hydro little beaver to beat on someone elses equipment lmao the ground was so hard the beaver would just get stuck in dirt. You literally have to dig with just a bar basically lmao
Great side by side test and VERY interesting results. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you mentioned the hard facing, I see another test, hard faced vs. shelf auger.
what brand is the orange auger?
Nice compairison. Saved us buying a rock bit. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Where do you guys get your augers ?
Great Video Dan!
Thanks!
What brand of skid loader mounted auger would you recommend for wood fence posts (building and replacing high-tensile electric fence posts)? Thank you.
Any general dirt auger works good, as long as your not in solid rock.
That was a great test.
Would high flow help a 10 inch auger to be less likely to stall in extremely hard soil? Seems like high flow spins the bit faster in reasonable density soil, but ultimately it won't have any more torque when digging in very hard dirt. Is this correct?
Yes, correct. High flow only helps throw the dirt out faster, or in good soil helps drill the hole faster.
Very nice testing. round here only a carbide rock auger is needed. No frost and hardly any soil, just coral rock. Speed is useless on coral rock, just pressure and torque so your testing confirms what I have seen.
Great video. What model of digga is that?
The 4DDS High Flow--it's all we run any more.
What exactly are you using? I just rented an auger for my skid steer and it’s digging at less than 1” per minute through frozen dirt. Theres no rock, it’s normal dirt, not super hard when not frozen.
A little more info. I’m on a Kubota ssv65. It’s really not even digging the frost I think the friction is slowing melting it then it pulling up the mud.
1" per minute is definitely not progress. 😲 We are using carbide coated pilot bits and carbide coated outer and inner teeth. There are some augers out there that have welded flighting at the beginning of the auger. If that gets bent it can be harder to go through the frozen ground.
should test some little beaver tips, there really isn't a lot of information on them.
Dan, Dan, Dan! Who came up with that test?
I mean, frost? Really.
I’d like to see a comparison in eroded Ozark mountain top soil. The flint and limestone rocks glued together with brick quality gumbo clay… packed down by glacial passes for eons. Now that’s a test!
And… what’s the deal with those screw looking thingys?
Iffen a guy wanted to earn his Man Card… he’d do what my daddy did to me. He handed me a clam shell auger with dull, bent spades and a 35Lb zinc mine drill bit. He pointed to two stakes in the ground and said, “I want them 3ft deep. I’ll be back at lunch to get you.”
So, it is 9AM and the temperature is already 90f. The ground has been baking, without rain, for three weeks. I have an old 1/2 gallon glass milk jug with tap water in it, a pair of oversized leather gloves (with holes in every finger but the pinkies) and a straw cow boy hat.
I’m ready… I break ground on the first hole.. at 6”, I hit my first rock. It’s about the size of a basketball… but leaves a crater the diameter of a VW Beetle. I am now down less than half way in just about an hour.
I grab the drill bit crow bar and slam the point into the bottom of the hole…. My hands ring as I see the sickening puff of fresh chipped lime dust rise up… I bang it a half dozen times to see if it is a rock or a shelf. It’s at least as big as the crater!
Did I mention to you that there was spring fed creek down the hill from where I was mining rocks?
So, I take another swig of my rapidly depleting water supply and move to hole number 2. This one goes a bit better, I get down almost a foot before the first flint sparks notify me of their presence. But flint ain’t no match for my hunk of miners gear. It shatters into pieces just small enough that they didn’t fall out of the bent spoons of my clam shell digger.
A sigh of relief, another drink and I’m punching away with my bar again. It goes well until I see that sickening plume of lime dust racing out of the hole toward my dads old work boots. Nope, they were on my feet. He wouldn’t let me dig holes in my tenny runners.
That’s when it hits me… I’ve been digging for an hour and a half and I didn’t stop to take a leak once. Perhaps it is time to take a break.
So, I do what every self respecting farm boy would do. I pee in the hole. Then, I turn and walk toward the only shade in sight. It happens to be at the spring fed creek just down the hill.
When my dad came back, he stopped by the holes then drove right down to the creek. I wasn’t paying attention. In fact, I was floating on my back in the cool spring fed creek with only my tighty whiteys to separate me from clothed to nudist.
He rudely separated me from the blissful enjoyment of my 10 minute break… turned into 90… by calmly asking, “Did you finish those holes already, boy?”
I told him, “Not yet, I hit rocks. But, I peed in the hole and I’m waiting for it to soak in. Maybe it will loosen them up.”
Well Dan I am sure you can imagine what happened next…,
He pointed to my clothes, boots and empty water jug and said, “Gather up your stuff and let’s go grab some lunch.”
You see, my dad grew up in the Ozarks and he’d dug his share of holes… on the way back to the house he told me, “Son I never thought to piss in the hole. After lunch, you can let me know if it worked!”
Dan, iffen you wanna race those fancy dirt drills in a course that will separate the men from the boys… I know a hillside, above a spring fed creek that will do it. And, you won’t have to bring a Porta Potty because us Ozark farm boys know how to get by without one!
Well there you go! That sounds like dirt for an entirely different type of test. 😁
Out here you don't really want to add liquid to a hole when the temp is below zero--it has an effect but not the one you're looking for. 😏
best thing you can do with really dry soil is to run a sprinkler on it for a day... it's that or rent a dingo. I had one job I broke 2 little beavers trying to go through it and ended up renting a hydro little beaver to beat on someone elses equipment lmao the ground was so hard the beaver would just get stuck in dirt. You literally have to dig with just a bar basically lmao
@@GingrBreadMan true… especially the part about renting tools!
Best story I've ever heard
@@a.k.5901 thanks… life lessons always make good stories. Don’t they??
How much is one of these? Wanna get one for an s185 cat