I always hated the mini line until mini 6 came out. That became my go to iPad, leaving my iPad Pro to collect dust. I carried my Mini 6 everywhere for over two years, and I am now upgraded to Mini A17Pro. I have been using iPads exclusively since iPad #1 came out and I know what I like.
I think the iPad mini (A17 Pro) is an unfortunate victim of cancel culture. I have watched COUNTLESS (pre)review videos while waiting for it on the 23rd and since I got it in my hands. As I have the iPad Pro and the iPhone 16PM, the mini fits right into my family of devices. So, my question is: Are there any POSITIVE videos for this iPad? I mean, coming from a fading iPad mini 5 with a trade-in value of $180, this new mini was worth every penny.
The iPad mini is a niche product so that could be why for more negative reviews, it is a smaller weaker (in terms of the chip) iPad Air, but it’s hard to compare the mini to the other iPads because the usage of it is going to be way different to people specifically in the market for it
Agree! After I got my mini 7, I don’t wanna touch my 11’ iPad Pro that has pro motion, better screen and whatsoever.. it’s more about the user experience, if you want have a better gaming experience, just buy the pro version!! Why bitching about this mini 7 while it is selling the form factor, not the pro function 🤷🤦♂️
I have the mini 6 and have been waiting to upgrade it because I use it every day, but I feel like the update is too small to justify upgrading. I just decided to try out an M2 Air 11” because I do need a new iPad with more power.
@@Bifragura Mini is selling for the form factor, it’s not replaceable by 11’ or 13’ and why does mini need to be that powerful? Are you making a movie with your mini? They are two different things and provide different user experiences. The update is too small??? 128gb base model, 8 gb ram and A17 pro chips selling for almost same price as your mini 6??? We are talking about Apple Intelligence bro…
@@Ai-JayI agree I use my I mean love my iPad 6 mini over all my other devices as soon as I enter my house I grab it I leave my phone alone until the next day. But however they could have given it 120 refresh rate at least I wouldn’t of mind paying extra for that I would actually pay for that more than the 512 storage or if not the refresh rate and over that screen that’s all so it’s hard to say if it’s good or bad even though I have the 6 I’m still get the seven because I do love the mini and I really can’t see myself without it
The 2027 iPad mini 8 will probably get an OLED screen, thinner bezels & face ID. But for now, the iPad mini 7 is a decent update. And if you’re coming from an iPad mini 5 like me, it’s a HUGE update!
Yes, if you are an iPad mini user and know why you bought it, that is great. I know that if it came with OLED/120Hz/M4 at $700-800, I would not buy it. At $500, Apple knows its target audience (business, enterprise) and has built a product for the price, not for the techie YT bubble.
I bought one….watching this on it in fact… I had a 128 gig mini 4. People spent 499.00 for a mini 6 with 64 gig. There was a 150.00 difference between that and 256 gig. On the new I pad there is a 100.00 difference. I bought the 256 gig as I plan to have this iPad a long time. My 128 gig mini 4 lasted 9 years. With AI, you don't know how much memory the other apps are going to eat up so you are covered in that regard.
I was actually interested in the mini too, but for now I went with air 6 just 3 days ago, hopefully we get to see m4 mini in the future XD, also my air was open box 256, actually cheaper than mini 7 256 😂.
I am an advocate of the iPad mini and as I predicted, it is snappier like going from the iPhone 15 to the 16. I completely agree with everything you said about the display and your description of this being a third device is bang on.
Very little incentive for Apple to change that for iPad mini because the mini has no competition (Android doesn’t offer anything decent at this size). So it’s either u take it or you have no other choice.
I use mine in a rugged waterproof case which covers the bezels, so I think your point is moot. Ideal for use in the car, travelling, hiking, and walking. As these are mainly for businesses, the aesthetics are not important for the core market. If you want pretty bezels then buy another 8-inch device if you can find one.
I’ve got the mini 7 (only had it a week), but I absolutely love it. It’s the perfect size for me and I find myself taking it everywhere. I went for the 256 and got the pencil pro too. Nothing but positives from me…the journaling is great. Fitted the paperlike today and it is outstanding.
I appreciate your level-headed take. Too many reviewers try too closely to compare this model to its predecessor, and too few prospective buyers appreciate the benefits of a device that doesn't change much from generation to generation. Keep your devices around longer and, while using them, focus on the tasks you're using them for and not on the device itself and you will be happier. I'm as miffed about the display as anyone because just about every other display I own runs at 120 Hz or greater, but I'm a realist. Give this a 120 Hz OLED and you increase the sales price by $100 or more, discouraging a vast swathe of the silent majority from buying who care more about the price than about the display. Another thing about displays -- there is no perfect display, and there never will be. Not even your eyes or brain -- the final output devices in the chain of vision -- will ever be perfect, and they will only continue to worsen as you age. I realized in the pursuit of the perfect display that... - LCDs are cheap, predictable, and responsive but washed out. IPS improves the latter aspect over TN. - VA displays feature better contrast, but might produce a headache for being less responsive and show heavy discoloration when viewed at an angle. - CRTs have blazing response times, great colors, and the unique vignette of scan lines, but their green phosphors decay slowly, producing a smeared afterimage. - OLEDs give near-instant response times and a virtually true black, but are dimmer and might suffer from the mura effect. Though a feature of our visual system and not of OLEDs, haloing will appear around bright objects on a dark background. - Mini LED displays are brighter than OLEDs, but their few dimming zones will produce an uneven set of gray-black tones and a watercolor effect in demanding scenes. For all their shortcomings, LCDs really aren't that bad, discounting 'jelly scrolling'.
I honestly love my iPad mini 7 , did I need to upgrade probable not , but double the storage , double ram , faster processor , good trade in value for the 6 mini and eventual apple intelligence , I’m happy
Seeing as I part exchanged my 5th Gen, this was definitely a worthwhile purchase. If I’d already been using a 6th Gen, that might have been a different story. Thanks for the content.
I love my mini! Great review! I use it for reading on the Kindle app, a daily calendar, word games/crossword puzzles and movies for the plane. I never take my IPad Pro traveling anymore. The mini is great for emails and light business work. It is pricey after all the add-ons but I use it daily!
You’re an iPad Pro lover expecting to see the same specs in a mini. For this to be a good review, you should be more aware of what the product that you’re reviewing is
Premium review Greg. I bought one for the first time, and I collected it on Friday. So I am still navigating through it. Contrary to previous iPads that I owned, I intend to keep it simple, many apps I already use on a regular basis on the iPhone will not be downloaded here. And the plus is that, it is the most affordable Apple device with access to Apple Intelligence. So let’s enjoy what it is. We can upgrade in two … years time. ❤
Appreciate your honesty. My only wish is rotation cannot be set - when reclining or lying down (and working with patients/clients with limited/unstable movements) the rotation auto goes from portrait to landscape constantly and is frustrating. The original iPad I remember I could set the rotation to not have it rotate. Tim needs to talk to ME! and put this back in the iPad. Also, I should be able to turn on or off the auto shaping when pausing my pencil when taking notes - my irregular line should remain so and not go to a straighten line when I don't want it to (I'm note taking a resting my pen! - I don't need an auto shape change!).
You are the only reviewer that has gone far enough in their review to mention that Final Cut Pro runs on the new iPad mini. Thank you! Love it!!! Hope you get to 400k subs this year!
i replaced my 6th with this new release. feels like a refresh. faster respond, my old mini battery is dying, new battery is great. picture in picture PIP on 6th mini did not work most of the time. it works finally with 7th finally. i traded my old one, cannot try it again. the form factor is the key factor. better component is always welcome. new CPU really makes a different. mobility is very important. i picked up a mini instead of 11inch ipad air or ipad pro. easy to fit into a pant pocket or day pack.
It’s an iterative upgrade. This is the second version with the redesigned body. I’ll wait for the upgrade when OLED is is on it. I still love and keep my iPad mini 6.
I just got the new iPad mini and I love it. Use it for the form factor and reading kindle books. The display is fine for me and don’t see the jellyroll or care about 120 hertz issue. A Oled display would have made it more expensive.
I bought the new iPad Mini in starlight. It arrives Tuesday. It's actually a little cheaper in Canada than it is in the United States. In Canada we pay the equivalent of $488 US dollars before tax. So that was a bit surprising!
I’m actually watching this from my iPad mini 6… Trying to talk myself off the ledge and upgrading to the Mini A17 Pro….. I personally love the mini form factor. It’s actually my favorite iPad and I’ve had a mini since they first came out. I also have recently traded in my 12.9 inch pro for an 11 inch air and couldn’t be happier with that, but might go to is usually the mini… Should I “upgrade” to the A17 Pro or just stick with the 6 ?
I have a mini 6 and I decided to get an M2 11” air instead of upgrading. I am keeping the mini though, I just don’t feel like the update is enough to justify updating. I’ll grt thr next one though probably
I'm really torn between the iPad Mini 7 and the 2022 M1 iPad Air. They both are being sold at the price here - the mini 7 is a little more expensive tho. I know they are totally different devices for different needs but my main usage will be taking notes at work and watching videos. Which one should I get since you own both?
The iPad Mini 7 is the best entry level product that Apple has announced in the last few years. My reason for saying this is because it has a usable 128 GB of flash memory. Most £150 entry level Android phones come with 128 Gb of flash memory but Apples entry level £429 iPhone SE 5G only comes with 64 Gb of flash memory with very expensive flash memory upgrades. I am a PC gamer and I paid £200 for a 2 Tb SSD eighteen months ago and paid £200 for a 4 Tb faster SSD recently. Moore's law is therefore still a real thing and Apple should similarly be doubling the flash memory in entry level Macs and iPhones every 18 months with no increase in cost.
As for the display on it. I’ve had both the iPad mini 5 and 6, and all around I actually enjoy the display of the 5th gen one more, especially having that extra screen space (top to bottom) when using it in landscape orientation. More comfortable to hold. Only thing is it’s getting dated and a little slow, but for everything a mini does, the 5th gen is still good enough. I am starting to think apple is intensionally sabataging the mini lineup. Like hmmm, maybe if they actually updated it and made it a nicer device than people would buy it more often, but apple’s mentallity is like “oh the sale for this device aren’t great, we should care less about it” its so bass-ackwards.
I traded in my ipad mini 6 for the mini 7 because I was concerned that the battery would soon start to degrade. Honestly, I can’t really tell any difference between the two ipads. I was perfectly happy with the ipad mini six. Other than a fresh battery, not sure it was worth the upgrade. As far as AI capable, I haven’t seen any really worthwhile AI features (at least for what I use). I think Apple has over promised and under delivered on AI to push hardware sales.
The biggest drawback is not having 120hz. - our eyes are already trained to 120hz, so anything less is very noticeable - how can you have the pencil but not have 120hz. It’s been on the iPad since 2018.
Just realized, the iPad mini (pro) has the potential to replace the iPhone, if it would also get cellular. Guess you could call it the iPhone ultra then. (But looks like an iPad mini, but with pro features.) I would get it in a heartbeat.
I tried one in comparison to my 6. I couldn't notice any difference at all. It looks the same, I still see the blurry jelly text when scrolling, and I can't notice the speed increase (my 6 feels very responsive). If someone told me they had just changed the 6 to a 7 I would believe them.
The iPad Mini 7 has 500 nits display, and the 11" iPad Air is only 400 nits; for my usage, that is the most significant advantage. I have no interest in a 13" device, I already have a very good laptop
I was looking for an iPad, compared and watched different UA-cam videos, compared data on the web and researched which one would suit me, and decided that I would also buy the new iPad mini 17 pro. And then I still decided that I wouldn't buy it, that I would still go from the countryside to the capital and see with my own eyes and try it. It's good that I finally went, because yes, the iPad mini is a very nice size and seemed capable, but it has a terribly dark screen, dark and somehow like a dim one, True Tone was off and it was on maximum brightness and still a terribly dark screen, such a dim screen and my eyes had to strain all the time and got strained because the screen was very bad to look at and I decided not to buy the iPad mini 17 pro, gen 7. In the meantime, I went to other stores to let my eyes look at something else and rest and in another store I also tried, looked, touched the iPad mini, the same there, still such a dull screen, dim screen and I went back to another store and tried again, still the same, too dark screen and dim screen is the iPad mini 17 pro gen 7, but of course that's for my eyes and I also wear glasses. I researched in stores and tried the iPad Air, also with a too dark screen and it didn't feel smooth or pleasant to look at or touch, the brightness is also very low on the Air, although a little brighter than on the mini, because the screen is larger on the Air, and I also tried the iPad pro M4 and bought the iPad pro 11 M4 instead and I felt the tension in my eyes disappear, my eyes immediately relaxed with this screen and it will be usable for many years.
I love the Mini, all generations. I don’t understand why most tech reviewers are 💩 on it because they reviewed the iPad Air earlier this year and told most people it was the iPad to get but the screen tech and basically all other specs are the same on it.
Exactly, all the people slamming the new mini but praising the latest iteration of the air lineup are morons. They’re practically the same aside from the M2 chip and screen size. No Face ID, no OLED, no pro motion refresh rate.
Thank you for intelligently explaining what I was trying to say in my last video I posted. People in my comments are literally furious over my review. It’s a good tablet but a frustrating tablet for some.
I’ve been waiting for years for a new Mini and I was so disappointed with the upgrade that I may either get an older IPad or maybe a Galaxy Tab instead..
I myself think its a good enough upgrade yes it can be better. Apple just want to leave head room for future upgrade possibility. Next ipad mini would maybe have 12 gigs ram, full screen no black borders, 90 hertz screen, and 1tb hard drive option. Now will that happen all at the same refresh who knows this is apple. Regardless its a decent upgrade.
It almost seems like Apple doesn’t really care if the sell these minis. They don’t seem to take them seriously enough anymore. Maybe they will stop making them someday 🤔 but making a mini with PRO specs 😳 Could be a game changer! 😎
So we have a mini AIR, so now we need a mini PRO, and why not, I’d prefer it over the AIR. It might cost $200 or $300 more, but it’d be worth it if it had all the PRO specs! I’m thinking thinner bezels on this one making it 8.5in OLED, ProMotion, FaceID, starting at 128G. $699-$799 🤔 The PRO 11inch used to start at $799, so to have a really portable PRO version would be great! Maybe it’s just me, but I think it might just be the BEST tablet Apple makes. 😎
Even though the refresh is underwhelming, the iPad mini is still better than the iPhone for two main reasons. 1. Multitasking 2. Apple Pencil support Let's be honest, the iPad mini and Galaxy S Ultra are the perfect combo if you use both iPadOS and Android.
for my use case of reading pdfs, gaming like Marvel Snap and Ragnarok and light video editing on Capcut, Goodnotes along with web surfing of course, which memory should I get? im torn between 256 and 512
@gregsgadgets I noticed your background, music selection and Ned recognizes nerd. I’m going to guess that you played either saxophone or euphonium in high school band
Thank god for Greg. Seeing the vids specifically from Lukas Mianis, (who this device probably isn't for) talking smack on it all day, when this update is what I've been waiting years for
They want a A18 chip, 120 hertz refresh rate a triple camera ? Let me know when Apple became a registered charity…you get what you pay for and people a month ago paid the £499.00 for a 3 year old iPad mini with only 64 gig of data and an A15 chip. How are they gonna be feeling?
@@harveysmith4424 Hello. Apologies for the ambiguity. I had an I pad mini which was nine 9 years old, today I bought a 256 gig mini 7, so for me it’s a trade up. I like the form factor and do a lot of reading. When I told my brother (who has four I pads) I was going to get a new one, he said to save my eyes and get an I pad air. Which is not what I wanted. By the way, the mini 6 Folio fits the 7. I picked one up in burnt orange brand new and box fresh from a reliable supplier and paid 25.00. Have hunt around before the vendors wise up and increase their prices!
You asking too much. What more do you want? The screen is nice. Buying this ipad is for practical users. It's right in your face. You don't need a high end screen when you use it.
Honestly, I don’t know how much of a jump you would see between the tablets anyway. I think this update was for people with older iPad minis or first time buyers like myself.
@TheBibliophilePuzzler great. I have the iPad 11 5th gen but find it to big to stick into my bikes frame bag when I go bike touring. Can the mini connect to an external SDD via USB C cable or an external 1TB thumbdrive that will hold all the footage from my cameras so I can edit them? I can Hotspot the mini to my Samsung phone to upload to social media....although I'd like the mini to have cell service so I can see the air tag on my bike in case I need to find it after someone steals it.
The display is definitely the worst thing about the new iPad mini. Although, personally, the main thing that annoys me the most about the new iPad mini, and the M2 iPad Air as well, is the fact they still use Touch ID. For years, Apple has adopted Face ID across the entire iPhone lineup, apart from the SE, and even that phone is expected to get it by next year. However, Face ID is still only a “Pro” feature despite being on iPads for 6 years now. Apple never branded Face ID as a Pro feature unlike 120 hz ProMotion. So why is Apple still keeping Face ID only at the pros?
Apple does not make IPS displays with Face ID, only OLED and miniLED, so it would be too expensive to start making them for the Air and Mini as both are low-volume models (mini
@@andyH_England With all due respect, but I don't buy that argument at all. Supply chain efficiency would actually be better if Apple brought Face ID and ProMotion to at least the iPad Air (considering the Air and Pro have the same screen sizes). It's the reason why the cheaper iPads eventually got the same chassis design that the iPad Pros had for years. Keeping ProMotion and Face ID as pro hardware features is solely just to distinguish the feature differences between the pro and non pro models.
Apple is a massively successful company. It is hugely popular and rich. But, it seems like they've stopped really trying to be more. Other companies are going flat out to be better than them, but Apple just sits back and relies on it's reputation. Can you imagine if they made a decision to make every product the best it could be at an affordable price. Probably double their profits.
I personally think they are a victim of their own success right now. There probably aren’t enough OLED displays at scale to put them into all of their products with the specifications they want. It’s a complicated issue because smaller companies or companies that sell in less volume can implement newer tech because they don’t need to worry about selling millions of units
@@GregsGadgets: Apple uses Tandem OLED, which needs the M4 chip due to the display co-processor that handles the two panels. This means if Apple wanted OLED in the mini, they would have to have an M4 and Tandem OLED, pushing the price to $700-800 and destroying the demand of their principal business and enterprise market.
I don't think anyone is trying to deceive you. Calling it the iPad Mini 7 is simply out of habit because up until now earlier iterations of the device were associated with a numerical identifier. Also calling the device the iPad Mini A17 Pro is somewhat cumbersome and long-winded.
@@JedEckert personally I think calling it an A17 Pro makes it sound as if it’s actually a “pro” mini iPad… Which it is not. So to me, it’s just the iPad mini 7. So I’m on defense, not sure if I should upgrade from my 6
Honestly didn’t understand the updates to the new Mini. They upgraded the pen for better response, the chip for better speed, but a screen that can’t take advantage of either.
I think the form factor of ipad mini is the only device that is genunely a tablet and fills in the gap between a phone and laptop. The bigger i pads are tablets that tries to be a laptop and eventually loose the characteristic of a tablet. In fact Ipad pro should have a mini vesrion. Also, there are many alternatives to all ipads but there is hardly one for the mini. Realy pitty that smaller tablets are made smaller to make it cheap rather than for the convenience.
On the IPad mini 7 Do the UA-cam videos open on 1080 by default? I have a Lenovo TB M9 which is capable of running 1080p, but the videos open by default at 720p or lower
But as I typed that, this video opened in 720 by default. I’m not sure what dictates videos opening at certain resolutions because I know one of the first videos I watched on UA-cam with my iPad mini was in 1080.
OK insured the iPad mini seven is not worth the weight. Faster processor is nice but other than that it's the only upgrade and they only did it so you could have Apple Intelligence. In my view, it's basically a half assed effort and an upgrade. I'll wait to see what they do in 2025 or even 2026 I want a real upgrade.😊
3 years for this!!! Comes on, it needed thinner bezels, higher refresh rate, better battery life, Face ID, on top of a better processor and pencil pro support. Just so disappointing.
Buy a Samsung 8-inch OLED 120Hz thin one, then! Or, you may see that 8-inch tablets are in their final decline as phones get larger and folds take up space. Samsung, does not make one, nor most rivals, because there is no money in it. Apple knows this, hence the three-year upgrade cycle. They could have easily ended this, but gave it one last throw of the dice, but could not afford big changes as it sells less than 5 million units a year (80 million plus in launch year). Be thankful it will exist for another three years, and be prepared for this to be the last version.
@@andyH_England I’m not going to thank Apple for wasting my time with this pointless upgrade (if you can even call it that). It’s one thing when iPhones get minimal upgrades but they come out every year. This had 3 years to get a refresh and all we get is a year old phone chip and support for a new stylus. Red magic just released a smallish tablet at a similar price point, think I’ll just get that instead.
@@TheLegendNewton The iPad Mini is not for spec-chasers and never has been, so yours and others surprise is strange. Why were you expecting these "changes"?
@@andyH_England are you really asking why we want upgrades to a 3 year old device? What I’m asking for isn’t much, a higher refresh rate display and thinner bezels with Face ID on top of what they did would actually warrant an upgrade from the mini 6. And that isn’t spec chasing at all considering the device with those upgrades is still way behind most other devices, but would tackle a lot of people’s issues with the iPad mini.
@@TheLegendNewton I have already said that Apple does not make 120Hz IPS panels or Face ID on IPS panels. So you are asking for something that cannot happen; that seems pointless, and you are just complaining for the sake of it. Just ignore it and get a Samsung 8-inch one with all those features.
I found the iPad mini in the gutter, I picked it up with the tip of my Apple Pencil and cleaned it, and place it atop my own hand.
I always hated the mini line until mini 6 came out. That became my go to iPad, leaving my iPad Pro to collect dust. I carried my Mini 6 everywhere for over two years, and I am now upgraded to Mini A17Pro. I have been using iPads exclusively since iPad #1 came out and I know what I like.
I think the iPad mini (A17 Pro) is an unfortunate victim of cancel culture. I have watched COUNTLESS (pre)review videos while waiting for it on the 23rd and since I got it in my hands. As I have the iPad Pro and the iPhone 16PM, the mini fits right into my family of devices. So, my question is: Are there any POSITIVE videos for this iPad? I mean, coming from a fading iPad mini 5 with a trade-in value of $180, this new mini was worth every penny.
The iPad mini is a niche product so that could be why for more negative reviews, it is a smaller weaker (in terms of the chip) iPad Air, but it’s hard to compare the mini to the other iPads because the usage of it is going to be way different to people specifically in the market for it
Agree! After I got my mini 7, I don’t wanna touch my 11’ iPad Pro that has pro motion, better screen and whatsoever.. it’s more about the user experience, if you want have a better gaming experience, just buy the pro version!! Why bitching about this mini 7 while it is selling the form factor, not the pro function 🤷🤦♂️
I have the mini 6 and have been waiting to upgrade it because I use it every day, but I feel like the update is too small to justify upgrading. I just decided to try out an M2 Air 11” because I do need a new iPad with more power.
@@Bifragura Mini is selling for the form factor, it’s not replaceable by 11’ or 13’ and why does mini need to be that powerful? Are you making a movie with your mini? They are two different things and provide different user experiences. The update is too small??? 128gb base model, 8 gb ram and A17 pro chips selling for almost same price as your mini 6??? We are talking about Apple Intelligence bro…
@@Ai-JayI agree I use my I mean love my iPad 6 mini over all my other devices as soon as I enter my house I grab it I leave my phone alone until the next day. But however they could have given it 120 refresh rate at least I wouldn’t of mind paying extra for that I would actually pay for that more than the 512 storage or if not the refresh rate and over that screen that’s all so it’s hard to say if it’s good or bad even though I have the 6 I’m still get the seven because I do love the mini and I really can’t see myself without it
The 2027 iPad mini 8 will probably get an OLED screen, thinner bezels & face ID. But for now, the iPad mini 7 is a decent update. And if you’re coming from an iPad mini 5 like me, it’s a HUGE update!
Alongside a US$899 price for the base model.
It is a very nice improvement coming from the iPad mini 5!
Yes, if you are an iPad mini user and know why you bought it, that is great. I know that if it came with OLED/120Hz/M4 at $700-800, I would not buy it. At $500, Apple knows its target audience (business, enterprise) and has built a product for the price, not for the techie YT bubble.
That would make me upgrade my tab s9 in a heart beat hahaha
i doubt it. maybe the ipad mini 9 in 2031. we'd sooner get an oled studio display.
I bought one….watching this on it in fact…
I had a 128 gig mini 4. People spent 499.00 for a mini 6 with 64 gig. There was a 150.00 difference between that and 256 gig.
On the new I pad there is a 100.00 difference.
I bought the 256 gig as I plan to have this iPad a long time. My 128 gig mini 4 lasted 9 years. With AI, you don't know how much memory the other apps are going to eat up so you are covered in that regard.
I was actually interested in the mini too, but for now I went with air 6 just 3 days ago, hopefully we get to see m4 mini in the future XD, also my air was open box 256, actually cheaper than mini 7 256 😂.
I'm seriously thinking about getting one. Thanks for breaking it down ✌🏼️
No problem 👍
I am an advocate of the iPad mini and as I predicted, it is snappier like going from the iPhone 15 to the 16. I completely agree with everything you said about the display and your description of this being a third device is bang on.
I can live with the display but the chunky bezels make it look old fashioned in this day and age.
Very little incentive for Apple to change that for iPad mini because the mini has no competition (Android doesn’t offer anything decent at this size). So it’s either u take it or you have no other choice.
@@randomterror7 It looks that way. It’s a shame because I would happily pay a premium for an iPad Mini Pro with 120 Hertz and thin bezels.
Coming from an iPad mini 5 the design really feels modern.
I use mine in a rugged waterproof case which covers the bezels, so I think your point is moot. Ideal for use in the car, travelling, hiking, and walking. As these are mainly for businesses, the aesthetics are not important for the core market. If you want pretty bezels then buy another 8-inch device if you can find one.
Agreed. The device looks ten years old and it’s ridiculous to waste all that real estate that could otherwise make for a much larger display.
I’ve got the mini 7 (only had it a week), but I absolutely love it. It’s the perfect size for me and I find myself taking it everywhere.
I went for the 256 and got the pencil pro too. Nothing but positives from me…the journaling is great. Fitted the paperlike today and it is outstanding.
I appreciate your level-headed take. Too many reviewers try too closely to compare this model to its predecessor, and too few prospective buyers appreciate the benefits of a device that doesn't change much from generation to generation. Keep your devices around longer and, while using them, focus on the tasks you're using them for and not on the device itself and you will be happier.
I'm as miffed about the display as anyone because just about every other display I own runs at 120 Hz or greater, but I'm a realist. Give this a 120 Hz OLED and you increase the sales price by $100 or more, discouraging a vast swathe of the silent majority from buying who care more about the price than about the display.
Another thing about displays -- there is no perfect display, and there never will be. Not even your eyes or brain -- the final output devices in the chain of vision -- will ever be perfect, and they will only continue to worsen as you age. I realized in the pursuit of the perfect display that...
- LCDs are cheap, predictable, and responsive but washed out. IPS improves the latter aspect over TN.
- VA displays feature better contrast, but might produce a headache for being less responsive and show heavy discoloration when viewed at an angle.
- CRTs have blazing response times, great colors, and the unique vignette of scan lines, but their green phosphors decay slowly, producing a smeared afterimage.
- OLEDs give near-instant response times and a virtually true black, but are dimmer and might suffer from the mura effect. Though a feature of our visual system and not of OLEDs, haloing will appear around bright objects on a dark background.
- Mini LED displays are brighter than OLEDs, but their few dimming zones will produce an uneven set of gray-black tones and a watercolor effect in demanding scenes.
For all their shortcomings, LCDs really aren't that bad, discounting 'jelly scrolling'.
I honestly love my iPad mini 7 , did I need to upgrade probable not , but double the storage , double ram , faster processor , good trade in value for the 6 mini and eventual apple intelligence , I’m happy
Seeing as I part exchanged my 5th Gen, this was definitely a worthwhile purchase. If I’d already been using a 6th Gen, that might have been a different story.
Thanks for the content.
I love my mini! Great review! I use it for reading on the Kindle app, a daily calendar, word games/crossword puzzles and movies for the plane. I never take my IPad Pro traveling anymore. The mini is great for emails and light business work. It is pricey after all the add-ons but I use it daily!
You’re an iPad Pro lover expecting to see the same specs in a mini. For this to be a good review, you should be more aware of what the product that you’re reviewing is
Premium review Greg. I bought one for the first time, and I collected it on Friday. So I am still navigating through it. Contrary to previous iPads that I owned, I intend to keep it simple, many apps I already use on a regular basis on the iPhone will not be downloaded here. And the plus is that, it is the most affordable Apple device with access to Apple Intelligence. So let’s enjoy what it is. We can upgrade in two … years time. ❤
Glad you’re enjoying it
Appreciate your honesty. My only wish is rotation cannot be set - when reclining or lying down (and working with patients/clients with limited/unstable movements) the rotation auto goes from portrait to landscape constantly and is frustrating. The original iPad I remember I could set the rotation to not have it rotate. Tim needs to talk to ME! and put this back in the iPad. Also, I should be able to turn on or off the auto shaping when pausing my pencil when taking notes - my irregular line should remain so and not go to a straighten line when I don't want it to (I'm note taking a resting my pen! - I don't need an auto shape change!).
There is a rotation lock setting in the control centre.
Rotation lock never left lmfao
Im atill rocking the ipad mini 5 and still runs good. Does all the ipad things i need it for.
You are the only reviewer that has gone far enough in their review to mention that Final Cut Pro runs on the new iPad mini. Thank you! Love it!!! Hope you get to 400k subs this year!
I dont buy things until I watch Greg's videos
Appreciate you
i replaced my 6th with this new release. feels like a refresh. faster respond, my old mini battery is dying, new battery is great. picture in picture PIP on 6th mini did not work most of the time. it works finally with 7th finally. i traded my old one, cannot try it again.
the form factor is the key factor. better component is always welcome. new CPU really makes a different.
mobility is very important. i picked up a mini instead of 11inch ipad air or ipad pro. easy to fit into a pant pocket or day pack.
They say the battery lasts only 6 hours on new iPad mini, not great
Greg, thank you for using The Planets, by Holst, as your background music! I loved it! And, of course, I love you too!
Haha glad you enjoyed it one of my faves
@@GregsGadgets That's aqwesome Greg! One of my faves as well! 🤎
Yeah I don’t know why he’s playing Jupiter but I approve.
I thought I had Spotify somehow playing at the same time😅
@@ryanw8664 I totally agree, on both points!
I just bought the mini 6 earlier year. I was afraid I would regret once the 7 came out but I don’t.
Why not?
It’s an iterative upgrade. This is the second version with the redesigned body. I’ll wait for the upgrade when OLED is is on it. I still love and keep my iPad mini 6.
I just got the new iPad mini and I love it. Use it for the form factor and reading kindle books. The display is fine for me and don’t see the jellyroll or care about 120 hertz issue. A Oled display would have made it more expensive.
Or less profit? It is annoying when switching between a 13mini and this.
The display is good for the mini.Its a great tablet. The best tablet on the market.
For what I do with my iPad mini 6 I won’t be upgrading to the mini 7
I bought the new iPad Mini in starlight. It arrives Tuesday. It's actually a little cheaper in Canada than it is in the United States. In Canada we pay the equivalent of $488 US dollars before tax. So that was a bit surprising!
I’m actually watching this from my iPad mini 6… Trying to talk myself off the ledge and upgrading to the Mini A17 Pro….. I personally love the mini form factor. It’s actually my favorite iPad and I’ve had a mini since they first came out. I also have recently traded in my 12.9 inch pro for an 11 inch air and couldn’t be happier with that, but might go to is usually the mini… Should I “upgrade” to the A17 Pro or just stick with the 6 ?
I have a mini 6 and I decided to get an M2 11” air instead of upgrading. I am keeping the mini though, I just don’t feel like the update is enough to justify updating. I’ll grt thr next one though probably
I'm really torn between the iPad Mini 7 and the 2022 M1 iPad Air. They both are being sold at the price here - the mini 7 is a little more expensive tho. I know they are totally different devices for different needs but my main usage will be taking notes at work and watching videos. Which one should I get since you own both?
unfortunately it wasn't 400.000 but I'm happy for joining this community this year
Everything you say here is true. I love the form factor of my Mini 6, and there's nothing compelling enough to update to this version.
The iPad Mini 7 is the best entry level product that Apple has announced in the last few years. My reason for saying this is because it has a usable 128 GB of flash memory. Most £150 entry level Android phones come with 128 Gb of flash memory but Apples entry level £429 iPhone SE 5G only comes with 64 Gb of flash memory with very expensive flash memory upgrades.
I am a PC gamer and I paid £200 for a 2 Tb SSD eighteen months ago and paid £200 for a 4 Tb faster SSD recently. Moore's law is therefore still a real thing and Apple should similarly be doubling the flash memory in entry level Macs and iPhones every 18 months with no increase in cost.
As for the display on it. I’ve had both the iPad mini 5 and 6, and all around I actually enjoy the display of the 5th gen one more, especially having that extra screen space (top to bottom) when using it in landscape orientation. More comfortable to hold. Only thing is it’s getting dated and a little slow, but for everything a mini does, the 5th gen is still good enough. I am starting to think apple is intensionally sabataging the mini lineup. Like hmmm, maybe if they actually updated it and made it a nicer device than people would buy it more often, but apple’s mentallity is like “oh the sale for this device aren’t great, we should care less about it” its so bass-ackwards.
I subscribed just bc you’re a nice guy ! Lol I’m 62 ( not tech savvy )but this review helped me a lot thx
The bringer of Joy 😀
I upgraded to the mini 7 my mini 6 battery was dead so no brainer had to get. I really like it over the v6
My upgrade of nothing to the Mini 7 was massive. And music from “The Planets”? Awesome!!!
I traded in my ipad mini 6 for the mini 7 because I was concerned that the battery would soon start to degrade. Honestly, I can’t really tell any difference between the two ipads. I was perfectly happy with the ipad mini six. Other than a fresh battery, not sure it was worth the upgrade. As far as AI capable, I haven’t seen any really worthwhile AI features (at least for what I use). I think Apple has over promised and under delivered on AI to push hardware sales.
Sadly my 2 years old mini 6 broke down after I update to 18.1 + power button decided to stop working.
Love my Mini 6 256gb and it’s still does what I need so I’ll be waiting on a real future upgrade.
The biggest drawback is not having 120hz.
- our eyes are already trained to 120hz, so anything less is very noticeable
- how can you have the pencil but not have 120hz. It’s been on the iPad since 2018.
got 1 few days ago, but i am still hoping for a mini pro instead
Just realized, the iPad mini (pro) has the potential to replace the iPhone, if it would also get cellular. Guess you could call it the iPhone ultra then. (But looks like an iPad mini, but with pro features.) I would get it in a heartbeat.
I tried one in comparison to my 6. I couldn't notice any difference at all. It looks the same, I still see the blurry jelly text when scrolling, and I can't notice the speed increase (my 6 feels very responsive).
If someone told me they had just changed the 6 to a 7 I would believe them.
The iPad Mini 7 has 500 nits display, and the 11" iPad Air is only 400 nits; for my usage, that is the most significant advantage. I have no interest in a 13" device, I already have a very good laptop
AMEN. Please listen to us instead of just sales metrics (which are certainly important but never tell the whole story).
New subscriber
I have a iPhone 14 is it worth the upgrade to a 16 plus ?
Is It mad to change my iPad Pro m2 for this one due to portability? Or m2 is way better
Now every time I see a iPad Mini, Holsts’ The Planets plays in my head! 😅
I was looking for an iPad, compared and watched different UA-cam videos, compared data on the web and researched which one would suit me, and decided that I would also buy the new iPad mini 17 pro. And then I still decided that I wouldn't buy it, that I would still go from the countryside to the capital and see with my own eyes and try it. It's good that I finally went, because yes, the iPad mini is a very nice size and seemed capable, but it has a terribly dark screen, dark and somehow like a dim one, True Tone was off and it was on maximum brightness and still a terribly dark screen, such a dim screen and my eyes had to strain all the time and got strained because the screen was very bad to look at and I decided not to buy the iPad mini 17 pro, gen 7. In the meantime, I went to other stores to let my eyes look at something else and rest and in another store I also tried, looked, touched the iPad mini, the same there, still such a dull screen, dim screen and I went back to another store and tried again, still the same, too dark screen and dim screen is the iPad mini 17 pro gen 7, but of course that's for my eyes and I also wear glasses. I researched in stores and tried the iPad Air, also with a too dark screen and it didn't feel smooth or pleasant to look at or touch, the brightness is also very low on the Air, although a little brighter than on the mini, because the screen is larger on the Air, and I also tried the iPad pro M4 and bought the iPad pro 11 M4 instead and I felt the tension in my eyes disappear, my eyes immediately relaxed with this screen and it will be usable for many years.
So when will they make an iPad Pro Mini?
Thanks Tucker Carlson I think I will get an iPad mini.
I love the Mini, all generations. I don’t understand why most tech reviewers are 💩 on it because they reviewed the iPad Air earlier this year and told most people it was the iPad to get but the screen tech and basically all other specs are the same on it.
Exactly, all the people slamming the new mini but praising the latest iteration of the air lineup are morons. They’re practically the same aside from the M2 chip and screen size. No Face ID, no OLED, no pro motion refresh rate.
I actually think it’s the air that’s redundant.
I can’t wait for the 2030 iPad mini 8 with the A18 Pro chip.
Lolllll
Thank you for intelligently explaining what I was trying to say in my last video I posted. People in my comments are literally furious over my review. It’s a good tablet but a frustrating tablet for some.
I love Holst more than Apple products
The one piece joke at the end was the best 👌🏾
I’ve been waiting for years for a new Mini and I was so disappointed with the upgrade that I may either get an older IPad or maybe a Galaxy Tab instead..
Uhhh... Interesting choice of music... The Planets dude? Pretty epic music for such an underwhelming product uograde! 😅
I myself think its a good enough upgrade yes it can be better. Apple just want to leave head room for future upgrade possibility. Next ipad mini would maybe have 12 gigs ram, full screen no black borders, 90 hertz screen, and 1tb hard drive option. Now will that happen all at the same refresh who knows this is apple. Regardless its a decent upgrade.
It almost seems like Apple doesn’t really care if the sell these minis. They don’t seem to take them seriously enough anymore. Maybe they will stop making them someday 🤔 but making a mini with PRO specs 😳 Could be a game changer! 😎
So we have a mini AIR, so now we need a mini PRO, and why not, I’d prefer it over the AIR. It might cost $200 or $300 more, but it’d be worth it if it had all the PRO specs! I’m thinking thinner bezels on this one making it 8.5in OLED, ProMotion, FaceID, starting at 128G. $699-$799 🤔 The PRO 11inch used to start at $799, so to have a really portable PRO version would be great! Maybe it’s just me, but I think it might just be the BEST tablet Apple makes. 😎
Even though the refresh is underwhelming, the iPad mini is still better than the iPhone for two main reasons.
1. Multitasking
2. Apple Pencil support
Let's be honest, the iPad mini and Galaxy S Ultra are the perfect combo if you use both iPadOS and Android.
time to change the battery on my ipad pro 10.5 2017 model. Tired of waiting a 120Hz.
Greg your show should be called DONT BE FOOLED!! already
It’s beloved by pilots for their planning and in-flight mapping software like Foreflight.
I pre ordered day 1. South Africa availability only next week
If according to Apple Pro-motion is a PRO feature reserved only for iPad Pro then by that logic the iPad mini must have a Mini-led display!
Please do iPad Mini 6 vs iPad Mini A17
Tell me about that controller
for my use case of reading pdfs, gaming like Marvel Snap and Ragnarok and light video editing on Capcut, Goodnotes along with web surfing of course, which memory should I get? im torn between 256 and 512
@gregsgadgets I noticed your background, music selection and Ned recognizes nerd. I’m going to guess that you played either saxophone or euphonium in high school band
Unfortunately I never played a band instrument in high school 😅😭
Thank god for Greg. Seeing the vids specifically from Lukas Mianis, (who this device probably isn't for) talking smack on it all day, when this update is what I've been waiting years for
They want a A18 chip, 120 hertz refresh rate a triple camera ?
Let me know when Apple became a registered charity…you get what you pay for and people a month ago paid the £499.00 for a 3 year old iPad mini with only 64 gig of data and an A15 chip.
How are they gonna be feeling?
@@michaelwoolcock5600 the phrasing of your statement makes it hard for me to tell if you’re arguing for or against 😂
@@harveysmith4424 Hello. Apologies for the ambiguity. I had an I pad mini which was nine 9 years old, today I bought a 256 gig mini 7, so for me it’s a trade up. I like the form factor and do a lot of reading. When I told my brother (who has four I pads) I was going to get a new one, he said to save my eyes and get an I pad air. Which is not what I wanted. By the way, the mini 6 Folio fits the 7. I picked one up in burnt orange brand new and box fresh from a reliable supplier and paid 25.00. Have hunt around before the vendors wise up and increase their prices!
@@harveysmith4424 Sorry for the confusion. I bought one. Comments further along the chat. As I had a mini 4 it is a great upgrade. So let Luke rebuke!
Thanks for sharing. Blessings on your day.
Yeah, I ordered an 128Gb/8Gb Galaxy Tab A9 instead.
You asking too much. What more do you want? The screen is nice. Buying this ipad is for practical users. It's right in your face. You don't need a high end screen when you use it.
The Mini comes with the iPad pen pro?!?!?!?!
New subscriber mon general!
They need to justify charging a lot for the Pro, so the Mini can’t be too similar.
Yes, I would have upgraded to the mini 7 from the mini 6 if there had been an improved screen. Since it didn’t, I won’t.
Honestly, I don’t know how much of a jump you would see between the tablets anyway. I think this update was for people with older iPad minis or first time buyers like myself.
My mini 7 one of volume rocker is little loose and it’s close to flush in the iPad kinda hard to press
Return it asap
Can you use lumafusion on the mini?
Yes I believe so
I use Lumafusion to edit my videos with no problem whatsoever.
@TheBibliophilePuzzler great. I have the iPad 11 5th gen but find it to big to stick into my bikes frame bag when I go bike touring. Can the mini connect to an external SDD via USB C cable or an external 1TB thumbdrive that will hold all the footage from my cameras so I can edit them? I can Hotspot the mini to my Samsung phone to upload to social media....although I'd like the mini to have cell service so I can see the air tag on my bike in case I need to find it after someone steals it.
@@stevemullin1195- The iPad mini 7 has USB-C with 10 Gb speed transfer.
The display is definitely the worst thing about the new iPad mini. Although, personally, the main thing that annoys me the most about the new iPad mini, and the M2 iPad Air as well, is the fact they still use Touch ID. For years, Apple has adopted Face ID across the entire iPhone lineup, apart from the SE, and even that phone is expected to get it by next year. However, Face ID is still only a “Pro” feature despite being on iPads for 6 years now. Apple never branded Face ID as a Pro feature unlike 120 hz ProMotion. So why is Apple still keeping Face ID only at the pros?
Apple does not make IPS displays with Face ID, only OLED and miniLED, so it would be too expensive to start making them for the Air and Mini as both are low-volume models (mini
@@andyH_England With all due respect, but I don't buy that argument at all. Supply chain efficiency would actually be better if Apple brought Face ID and ProMotion to at least the iPad Air (considering the Air and Pro have the same screen sizes). It's the reason why the cheaper iPads eventually got the same chassis design that the iPad Pros had for years. Keeping ProMotion and Face ID as pro hardware features is solely just to distinguish the feature differences between the pro and non pro models.
They ddnt add or even upgrade features ... hop d price s not exage...
This is the best iPad for gaming but sadly can’t afford it
Just order preloved ipad mini 256gb sim card, better price, better deals, 80% similar to mini 7
Ipad Mini is the only product Apple have over what can samsung offer...
Can someone tell me how a old a17 pro chip is new isn’t it in last years iPhone 15 pro max
Apple is a massively successful company. It is hugely popular and rich. But, it seems like they've stopped really trying to be more. Other companies are going flat out to be better than them, but Apple just sits back and relies on it's reputation. Can you imagine if they made a decision to make every product the best it could be at an affordable price. Probably double their profits.
I personally think they are a victim of their own success right now. There probably aren’t enough OLED displays at scale to put them into all of their products with the specifications they want. It’s a complicated issue because smaller companies or companies that sell in less volume can implement newer tech because they don’t need to worry about selling millions of units
@@GregsGadgets: Apple uses Tandem OLED, which needs the M4 chip due to the display co-processor that handles the two panels. This means if Apple wanted OLED in the mini, they would have to have an M4 and Tandem OLED, pushing the price to $700-800 and destroying the demand of their principal business and enterprise market.
If it can't get the OLED display, then it at least deserves a 120hz LCD panel. People, stop justifying a 60Hz display in late 2024 c'mon
I finally found someone who doesn't deceive his public by calling this ipad mini 7
I don't think anyone is trying to deceive you. Calling it the iPad Mini 7 is simply out of habit because up until now earlier iterations of the device were associated with a numerical identifier.
Also calling the device the iPad Mini A17 Pro is somewhat cumbersome and long-winded.
@@JedEckert personally I think calling it an A17 Pro makes it sound as if it’s actually a “pro” mini iPad… Which it is not. So to me, it’s just the iPad mini 7. So I’m on defense, not sure if I should upgrade from my 6
@@Annette_Hons Apple calls it the iPad mini on their website, they don’t call it the mini A17 Pro.
Apple calls it the iPad mini on their website, they don’t call it anything else.
It’s a street robbery that it’s not compatible with Apple Pencil 2
The pencil is PRO level. The ipad mini was SE level.
Honestly didn’t understand the updates to the new Mini. They upgraded the pen for better response, the chip for better speed, but a screen that can’t take advantage of either.
Do you mean because of the lack of 120 hz refresh rate?
How do you not understand double the ram to support Apple Intelligence as well as double the base storage option?
I think the form factor of ipad mini is the only device that is genunely a tablet and fills in the gap between a phone and laptop. The bigger i pads are tablets that tries to be a laptop and eventually loose the characteristic of a tablet. In fact Ipad pro should have a mini vesrion. Also, there are many alternatives to all ipads but there is hardly one for the mini. Realy pitty that smaller tablets are made smaller to make it cheap rather than for the convenience.
On the IPad mini 7 Do the UA-cam videos open on 1080 by default? I have a Lenovo TB M9 which is capable of running 1080p, but the videos open by default at 720p or lower
Mine play at 1080
But as I typed that, this video opened in 720 by default. I’m not sure what dictates videos opening at certain resolutions because I know one of the first videos I watched on UA-cam with my iPad mini was in 1080.
pffftttt they could've improved the battery life, brightness...
OK insured the iPad mini seven is not worth the weight. Faster processor is nice but other than that it's the only upgrade and they only did it so you could have Apple Intelligence. In my view, it's basically a half assed effort and an upgrade. I'll wait to see what they do in 2025 or even 2026 I want a real upgrade.😊
3 years for this!!!
Comes on, it needed thinner bezels, higher refresh rate, better battery life, Face ID, on top of a better processor and pencil pro support.
Just so disappointing.
Buy a Samsung 8-inch OLED 120Hz thin one, then! Or, you may see that 8-inch tablets are in their final decline as phones get larger and folds take up space. Samsung, does not make one, nor most rivals, because there is no money in it. Apple knows this, hence the three-year upgrade cycle. They could have easily ended this, but gave it one last throw of the dice, but could not afford big changes as it sells less than 5 million units a year (80 million plus in launch year). Be thankful it will exist for another three years, and be prepared for this to be the last version.
@@andyH_England I’m not going to thank Apple for wasting my time with this pointless upgrade (if you can even call it that). It’s one thing when iPhones get minimal upgrades but they come out every year. This had 3 years to get a refresh and all we get is a year old phone chip and support for a new stylus.
Red magic just released a smallish tablet at a similar price point, think I’ll just get that instead.
@@TheLegendNewton The iPad Mini is not for spec-chasers and never has been, so yours and others surprise is strange. Why were you expecting these "changes"?
@@andyH_England are you really asking why we want upgrades to a 3 year old device? What I’m asking for isn’t much, a higher refresh rate display and thinner bezels with Face ID on top of what they did would actually warrant an upgrade from the mini 6. And that isn’t spec chasing at all considering the device with those upgrades is still way behind most other devices, but would tackle a lot of people’s issues with the iPad mini.
@@TheLegendNewton I have already said that Apple does not make 120Hz IPS panels or Face ID on IPS panels. So you are asking for something that cannot happen; that seems pointless, and you are just complaining for the sake of it. Just ignore it and get a Samsung 8-inch one with all those features.
Jupiter????
Please let this be the last video using the phrase, "Don't be fooled!" -- it's similar to "Don't choose wrong!" 😑
Sorry there will be more