I don't think they are underrated , i think it's just that they never sold out to the main stream media, and that's a good thing. That is why their music is always so raw and original. Got mad respect for "The Stone Roses", these guy's are Buzzin.
I think that’s such a spot on comment. It’s why they were contractually kneecapped after their timeless debut album. Looking back at TV interviews with Ian and John, there was no way they were going to pretend that the music “business” was anything but a steaming pile.
Just watching another YT video where Ian Brown is quoted at distancing himself from this and Tell Me. The Conplete … was the first Roses record I owned. I immediately honed in on the first 2 tracks cos they just sounded so raw and unusual.
They didn’t like the Garage Flower album. Which was produced by Martin Hannett. I don’t know why, it’s bloody brilliant. Has all their really early stuff like ‘ Heart on the Staves ‘ etc.
I find myself listening to lots of U.K. bands these days... I believe it started with Joy Division, then i ended up finding My Bloody Valentine through them somehow and ended up here with Stone Roses. I'm from the states...
I love the mad Reni drumming on this! So powerful! Dare I say (controversial opinion) I'm not sure I like the sound of the drums Hannett got on this one. I feel like I want to turn them up and make them sound more echoy and big. It sounds to me like Reni is working really hard, but somehow Martin Hannett has turned him down and subdued him when he should've be allowed to ring out IMHO! I am usually a fan of Hannet's work and love Joy Division, but I'm a massive fan of Reni and his drumming, so I could be biased! Does anybody else get what I mean? The drums somehow sound subdued and distant to me. I love to know what Reni thinks!
@@swisher8379 🤣🤣 whats wrong with grime and house? I love music mate and I know music well enough to have an opinion that the stone roses are over-rated/ overhyped by a load of gazelle and stone island wearing football fans 😉 i aint saying stone roses are shit I'm saying they ain't the best they got 1 good album out of 2 😅 happy mondays absolutely blow them out the water IMO 🖕
Sort of The Cult meets The Smiths...Ian Brown already stamping his claim. There was a lot worse in 1985, you can hear the blueprint of what was going to come later. Thanks.
They seem to have completely disregarded everything from before the debut apart from Sally Cinnamon. Shame, I'd love them to play this and Tell Me in their live sets.
In the misery dictionary Page after page after page In the misery dictionary Page after page Where there's life there's gotta be hope And where there's a will there's a way One man's in is another's out I gotta get out today Where there's life there's gotta be hope And where there's a will there's a way Amid divisions you're so low You know I gotta get out today In the misery dictionary Page after page after page In the misery dictionary Page after page And where there's a will there's a way
@munnikey ive listened to everything the roses have ever done loved em since spike island ...and i can tell you this is most definitly a roses fav ,the seven inch single back in 90 was a rarity that sold for 100 quid
perhaps it grows on you, it most ppl about 10 years to get into The Second Coming, now I'd go so far as to say I prefer it to the first album, I was just reading the wikipedia article and I wanted to now how this tune sounds, so it's the first time I have heard it.
@munnikey essentially it's early indie music. they started to record mid 80s became big i think 89 lasted to around 95. more info on wiki. so many banging tunes. just check them all out for yourself. one of my favourites is high times, never released but it is floating around the net. if you can't find it, pm me i will send it to you.
@spaced377 Elephant Stone = Full Fathom Five ( vinyl only, I think ), Waterfall = Don't Stop , Where Angels Play ( outro ) = Simone and Made of Stone = Guernica. Wish they did more of these : )
nice one thanks it was just i played it on here earlie and it had where angles play backwards wrote on it . so have you heard the news ian and john are talking they met at mani mums funnerl afew weeks ago
@munnikey I don't mind garage flower, but even ian brown said it was shit, they didn't discover their sound yet. The 60's pyschedelic, funk sound is just mind blowing. The best band to get stoned to. When they recorded elephant stone, they knew how the wanted to sound. Its just amazing
@dondoleone i do know that lad,but i wasnt reffering to that particular song,althought their debut is late 80's as well but i am describing the scene of the 90's when those ones were popular.mid 80's are cool as fook as well
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Totally forgot how good this song is. I was writing a message “where there’s a will there’s a way” brought me back lol.
Anyone still listening 2021?
@@chalkymwhite totally with you there, I like the full versions. But these early shorts are little gems 😄
2022
I'm here now cos I tried to introduce it to my 18 yo apprentice and its not on Spotify.
@@Chris-tq1bx and was it well received?
@@rachel2192 what d'you reckon? Anyone can like these guys
This and Tell Me are 2 of the best songs they ever made. In my opinion anyway.
It’s a shame there not on Spotify anymore.
i agree.
same album right?
Took me right back to 1987 in da club 🤩
I don't think they are underrated , i think it's just that they never sold out to the main stream media, and that's a good thing.
That is why their music is always so raw and original.
Got mad respect for "The Stone Roses",
these guy's are Buzzin.
I think that’s such a spot on comment.
It’s why they were contractually kneecapped after their timeless debut album.
Looking back at TV interviews with Ian and John, there was no way they were going to pretend that the music “business” was anything but a steaming pile.
Even with imperfections this is so great.
Legendary bands starts big
It's great, just a little different to the Roses we all know. A lot more raw and aggressive than their classic sound.
Best Stone Roses song!
The way I adore this song. Absolutely fantastic.
Just watching another YT video where Ian Brown is quoted at distancing himself from this and Tell Me. The Conplete … was the first Roses record I owned. I immediately honed in on the first 2 tracks cos they just sounded so raw and unusual.
How much i miss this one.. sheer perfection..
Man Stone Roses Are Lengendary There Music Opened Up A Whole New Era
Underrated Roses banger
insane that in 1985 80s pop was the thing and yet Stone roses existed :o. Guess the music industry catches up years later.
Try again. Its the roses who were playing catch up in the mid eighties. They had a 8 year out of date punk sound. Great song nonetheless.
Can't argue with that. Impeccable logic.
They were post punk/goth sounding around this era in my opinion. Sounds like early Joy division (Warsaw)
probs my fave stone roses song ngl
This really takes me back to a happier time.
Not on Spotify.... Class you can tell this was influenced by punk 🤘
Gutted they removed it, same with tell me
Removed from Spotify = badge of honour.
Buy the vinyl.
Which bands?
@@dawellerwhat vinyl
And Joy Division!
this song got me through a lot I gotta get out today
Class ONE LOVE ONE UNITED PRIDE OF MANCHESTER
class!! one of my favourite roses tunes but then again underated..amazing..
One of greatest songs ever
This is my favorite song by them.
Στην λευκη με αγαπη αλεξανδρος 1991 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Apparently the band dont like this song and stopped playing it early on. no idea why, i love it
album was rushed out by management so they refused to play any songs there after. big fk u too them.
They didn’t like the Garage Flower album. Which was produced by Martin Hannett. I don’t know why, it’s bloody brilliant. Has all their really early stuff like ‘ Heart on the Staves ‘ etc.
@@mrkipling2201 you just put me in a banger cheers:)
@@sunnyd7583 👍👍
Page after page after page ❤
@kingshahine I agree, I love I wanna be Adored, but this song always gets to me. First song on the CD and rightly so. Rock on Stone Roses.
Amo questo gruppo.
I find myself listening to lots of U.K. bands these days... I believe it started with Joy Division, then i ended up finding My Bloody Valentine through them somehow and ended up here with Stone Roses. I'm from the states...
try the sisters of mercy, lucretia my reflection
hiya try the album PiIls, Thrills and Bellyaches,
What about Cocteau Twins?
Think My Bloody Valentine are actually Irish
@@jimmymcguire8217 There's some goth in this.
wow wow took me right back this one.
2000 Plymouth, Uk.. this song too strong words coming up to me... still takes me back to that turmoil episode.
What went on In Plymouth?
@@Cloughjordan23 Thanks for being a sweetheart and asking. I freaked out, got depressed became a leech gor the rest of my life. Peace bru.
@@DanielFranc35Hope you are doing better now
Best tune of my younger years
raw and exciting back in 85
love this song!
Martin Hannett was in the control for this, and you can notice. The drums is Hannett touch.
Classic album
Στην λευκη με αγαπη αλεξανδρος 1991🥰🥰🥰🥰
any fool can sing in tune
only Ian brown can sound this magnificent and out of tune.
That Bass.
picking your favourite Roses song is like picking a your nose, there is always a bigger bogieup there.
@20LiamScholes09 So, so true. The Stone Roses have so many GREAT songs. And depending on my mood, different ones are my favs.
IMO this is their best song ever
so raw... none of this sound nowadays
What a tune, i remember my bro blasting this in '95 and me trying to turn it down by pressing the bottom of the up button.. ahaha. nuts.
I love the mad Reni drumming on this! So powerful! Dare I say (controversial opinion) I'm not sure I like the sound of the drums Hannett got on this one. I feel like I want to turn them up and make them sound more echoy and big. It sounds to me like Reni is working really hard, but somehow Martin Hannett has turned him down and subdued him when he should've be allowed to ring out IMHO! I am usually a fan of Hannet's work and love Joy Division, but I'm a massive fan of Reni and his drumming, so I could be biased! Does anybody else get what I mean? The drums somehow sound subdued and distant to me. I love to know what Reni thinks!
Yeah I thought the same mate
How exactly are the Roses under-rated? They're generally regarded as one of the best British bands ever.
More like over-rated
@@SpacemanSmee 🤣🤡
@@harry_h2705 I know!! And commented on a Roses song as well!!
@@SpacemanSmee you defo listen to some shit like grime or house music
@@swisher8379 🤣🤣 whats wrong with grime and house? I love music mate and I know music well enough to have an opinion that the stone roses are over-rated/ overhyped by a load of gazelle and stone island wearing football fans 😉 i aint saying stone roses are shit I'm saying they ain't the best they got 1 good album out of 2 😅 happy mondays absolutely blow them out the water IMO 🖕
Sort of The Cult meets The Smiths...Ian Brown already stamping his claim. There was a lot worse in 1985, you can hear the blueprint of what was going to come later. Thanks.
Agree
Your Welcome
this band is my life... respect to Manchester city forever.
There utd fans
do they still disown this tune? fuck knows why its class
I agree, one of my favourite songs
They seem to have completely disregarded everything from before the debut apart from Sally Cinnamon. Shame, I'd love them to play this and Tell Me in their live sets.
Amazing!
Love it
In the misery dictionary
Page after page after page
In the misery dictionary
Page after page
Where there's life there's gotta be hope
And where there's a will there's a way
One man's in is another's out
I gotta get out today
Where there's life there's gotta be hope
And where there's a will there's a way
Amid divisions you're so low
You know I gotta get out today
In the misery dictionary
Page after page after page
In the misery dictionary
Page after page
And where there's a will there's a way
I wish the vinyl of this wasn’t 400 quid i’d definitely buy it
this = my rock the fuck out song, she bangs the drums = my sappy song, fools gold = my groove the fuck out song.... thank you!
Tell Me, Heart of Staves after this.
@philbertfwog true, for mid eighties this is well ahead of its time!!
@munnikey ive listened to everything the roses have ever done loved em since spike island ...and i can tell you this is most definitly a roses fav ,the seven inch single back in 90 was a rarity that sold for 100 quid
Met him strangeways👀👀can't recall him coming out of pad😭😭😭still good artist 👍
From the 80's this tune
Brilliant!!!
its the roses..end of..great tune!
Baggy Indie 🙌
try and get the boot dvd called garage flowers theres 2 gigs 1985 warehouse 1 and hacienda 85.
It's usually easily found on UA-cam, and it's rather great
Their best song
this song kill me
love it!
I am 10 and I
Nobody cares. Its not impressive.
I care, it is impressive.
Oliver Coleman me too, children of this age should know these sort of songs instead of the ballocks now a days
An alleged kid likes a song and you're impressed? What effect do bright colours have?
You are wank !
Tuuuuune x
This song ,Heart on the staves and The sun still shines had a different buzz,sure they were raw but that's the charm.Fucking classic roses.
and Tell Me. pure fire.
Dancing to this at Avant Garde in Athens and I thought the whole club was electric
Pete Garner on bass and Andy Couzens on rhythm guitar. Recorded in March 1985
hahaha very well put my friend
I love this fucking record!!!
the best!!! (2023)
perhaps it grows on you, it most ppl about 10 years to get into The Second Coming, now I'd go so far as to say I prefer it to the first album, I was just reading the wikipedia article and I wanted to now how this tune sounds, so it's the first time I have heard it.
@munnikey essentially it's early indie music. they started to record mid 80s became big i think 89 lasted to around 95. more info on wiki.
so many banging tunes. just check them all out for yourself. one of my favourites is high times, never released but it is floating around the net. if you can't find it, pm me i will send it to you.
I quite like it.
I cannot believe I'm still struggling to get access to this awesome song and tell me.
Maximum volume please 🙌⚡️💥
My sorry love it people ☮️
brown really doesn't like this song, i fuckin love it
Conor O'shea are you still loving this tune 10 Year’s later aha
@@based7900 I regret to inform yous that Conor committed suicide back in 2013.
@@Landauh oh shit man
@spaced377 Elephant Stone = Full Fathom Five ( vinyl only, I think ), Waterfall = Don't Stop , Where Angels Play ( outro ) = Simone and Made of Stone = Guernica. Wish they did more of these : )
i have this album : )
yeah, its the first one!
This is a great tune it's like a cross between adam ant and the cult
nice one thanks it was just i played it on here earlie and it had where angles play backwards wrote on it . so have you heard the news ian and john are talking they met at mani mums funnerl afew weeks ago
@yungrippHRK My faves are Elephant stone, Waterfall, She Bangs the Drums, and Mersey Paradise. Plus many more lol.
Garage Flower,what a fuckin album
Tell me, tell meeeee u cant tell me anything
Wrong song mate haha
I can tell you that isn't this song.
+Ozzy Austin 😂😂😂
Decent song
Promising beginning and a great song, despite what the band thinks.
Amen.
Wonder why they subsequently more or less disowned this.
i dont know why this remainds me of this(intro) hanoi rocks-underwater world
not sure but i think the blues are playing your lot soon.
good luck and may the best man win :)
even if Ian did call it shit, i still think its an o'rate tune
U got a good track yea as y know u got it i bet
So right...how were missing england already
@themasterplan23 yeah thats my acid music....
Las Rosas de Piedra❤
@munnikey
I don't mind garage flower, but even ian brown said it was shit, they didn't discover their sound yet.
The 60's pyschedelic, funk sound is just mind blowing. The best band to get stoned to. When they recorded elephant stone, they knew how the wanted to sound. Its just amazing
@happentodie i just came across them, can u point me in the direction to the best songs
R.I.P Martin Hannett
And i've just discovred this jam ^^ !
Something about Ian's vocals here reminds me of Maynard from Tool, they both had a weird (great) kind of Celtic/gregorian chanting style of melodies.
@dondoleone i do know that lad,but i wasnt reffering to that particular song,althought their debut is late 80's as well but i am describing the scene of the 90's when those ones were popular.mid 80's are cool as fook as well
fuckin' tuneeeeeeee.
Frist person to have this I no