Korea AI on Deity difficulty has a high tendency to snowball out of control with tech advancements.. due to their unique ability + deity AI bonuses combined.
Once William stole that city location I was like oh that's going to make things pretty tough. Then korea came into the mix and it's gg. Getting that engineer for free is almost necessary now. at the very least a scientist. But hey maybe Korea is going to go full piety without a religion again. Fingers crossed
I guess, if the map is accurate, then there should be some swamps over there, and Netherlands have a starting bias for swamps, so it worked just fine :-)
Don't know if it's this game in particular, but I don't think I've seen AI expand quite so fast before. So boxed in, good luck with this one, if anyone can it's Marbozir!
Settle two cities, one NW of the northern Iron tile, and the river-mountain tile. If it's still available, get a fourth city down river close to Trollface. BTW, it looks like you're starting location was in Poland. See Genoa is up near Latvia and Estonia, and Wittenberg is in Denmark. Irony FTW.
Everyone is saying this is a lost cause, but I think it will make for a more interesting game. Its unusual seeing Civ V with a "flat" map. It has made me realise how good the random map generator really is.
God king is clearly the best pantheon in this situation by far. It helps so much early game and is especially good if you're not going to get a religion. I am quite irritated that you never even consider god king in your games, its like you don't even notice the instant 5 yields
I love Civ 5 mods, especially Civ added ones, too bad mod multiplier isn't easier! If the company would do this with Civ 6 or add this to 5, I would be so Fickin happy! And @marbozir, if you ever wanna play multiplier, I'm so down! I normally play Emperor, but I'm good at Immortal too! But since I discovered you, I know I can win Deity now! Im gonna try it out soon!
That's a sucky start, but you are making the best of it. Not sure why you were considering buying hill tiles to get 0F 3P when you have unworked 2F 2P tiles.
Can you not like switch to full production 2 turns before the setler comes out and it switches to 1 turn so you only lose 1g for one turn? Or would that be too cheesy?
Its too bad that the AIs are able to spam so many extra cities on these big maps. I wish that Deity lowered the amount of unhappiness on the player on large maps so it would allow it to play out more like it does on Standard sized maps. It almost takes domination victories off the table unless you ninja only capitals. This is a tough start, but if Marb can pull off that Rome victory over the Incan then anything is possible. That series was a lost cause and he found a way to win.
Korea is too ridiculous, i have seen him be 2 eras ahead of everyone else multiple times in my games. You should play as Korea sometimes, they have an easy time going to war in the early game because they don't need to rush Universities that fast.
Does the "Free" Great Person Raise the cost of other Great People in that Category Like the Mayan UA?
Mr. Worldwide no
Mr. Worldwide I presume so.. otherwise it seems too powerful.
Personally I think that if there are no other good choices for a pantheon, God-king is probably the best default. +1 to everything is a decent bonus.
Last game: great start.
This game: bad start.
Gotta love the trolley Civ 5.
Not to mention Ramkhamtrollface and Korea.
Yup this game looks lost to me
Xepthrichros I am pretty new to civ5, what is the deal with Korea?
Korea AI on Deity difficulty has a high tendency to snowball out of control with tech advancements.. due to their unique ability + deity AI bonuses combined.
life4nina You will find out as Marbozir will mention them when he moans about them in later game lol.
marb you provide the best content on youtube been subscribed for almost 2 years now if not already 2. Keep up the good work!
You might want to consider getting optics soon, as there's very little places for you to expand, but Scandinavia might still be somewhat empty.
Was thinking the same thing
Isn't Scandinavia part of northern Europe?
I think God King would've been a better choice. It's only good at the start, but you'll lose your pantheon anyway, so it would've been decent.
This start would have been a reroll for me
OR...At least a Strategic Balanced Start.
For sure reroll, garbage start
Once William stole that city location I was like oh that's going to make things pretty tough. Then korea came into the mix and it's gg. Getting that engineer for free is almost necessary now. at the very least a scientist. But hey maybe Korea is going to go full piety without a religion again. Fingers crossed
Anyone else notice that the Dutch capital is at the geographical location of the Netherlands on the map
I guess, if the map is accurate, then there should be some swamps over there, and Netherlands have a starting bias for swamps, so it worked just fine :-)
Wow. Terrible start there. Looking forward to this series :)
suggest forgoing the mine for now and focusing your citizens on all the 2 food 2 production pasture tiles, along with the deer tile
Recommend taking advantage of your unique unit to take as many nearby cities as possible and then rush acoustics so you can keep in positive happiness
You're getting dangerously boxed in... Hm, I predict that you'll have to go for an earlier war this game.
Don't know if it's this game in particular, but I don't think I've seen AI expand quite so fast before. So boxed in, good luck with this one, if anyone can it's Marbozir!
This feels like another game like your Rome playthrough.
I would have quit game to desktop without a second thought after I saw those two cities settled near you. You are much tougher, lol.
What a bad start.... The lack of production will surelly hurt you. Hope you will get a great engineer.
should've gone for liberty,you have pretty slow start and it'll be hard to stop others.luckily ram attacked william maybe things will work out itself
I've taken religious border growth before, I like it when there aren't any other options.
Settle two cities, one NW of the northern Iron tile, and the river-mountain tile. If it's still available, get a fourth city down river close to Trollface.
BTW, it looks like you're starting location was in Poland. See Genoa is up near Latvia and Estonia, and Wittenberg is in Denmark. Irony FTW.
Everyone is saying this is a lost cause, but I think it will make for a more interesting game. Its unusual seeing Civ V with a "flat" map. It has made me realise how good the random map generator really is.
If there is an alpine region on this map then could be a great place for an Irish Ecbatana..
God king is clearly the best pantheon in this situation by far. It helps so much early game and is especially good if you're not going to get a religion. I am quite irritated that you never even consider god king in your games, its like you don't even notice the instant 5 yields
Sucks to get stuck with a low production start. Especially in comparison to the last game! :)
Cheers, Ivan :D
Korea has 9 pop in his cap to your 3...a bit harsh. That 2nd city looks promising.
Why is (or was by this time) +1 culture from plantation a worse option?
I love Civ 5 mods, especially Civ added ones, too bad mod multiplier isn't easier! If the company would do this with Civ 6 or add this to 5, I would be so Fickin happy! And @marbozir, if you ever wanna play multiplier, I'm so down! I normally play Emperor, but I'm good at Immortal too! But since I discovered you, I know I can win Deity now! Im gonna try it out soon!
if you get trollface n on it he will probably troll and get a tank or something ang take the city from you when you cant see his unit
well, at least Groningen is not settled on a stupid location, so you can just take it and go from there :)
That's a sucky start, but you are making the best of it.
Not sure why you were considering buying hill tiles to get 0F 3P when you have unworked 2F 2P tiles.
start war, worth every iron
Hi Mabozir! Just a personal question, at this current point in time, do you prefer to play EU4 or CIV V BNW?
Is his Dublin located in Gdansk (aka. Danzig)?
A little to the west.
man i need your sencend city meaning i need a cork
you should choose liberty
Next time please play on true starting location Europe
Can you not like switch to full production 2 turns before the setler comes out and it switches to 1 turn so you only lose 1g for one turn? Or would that be too cheesy?
Its too bad that the AIs are able to spam so many extra cities on these big maps. I wish that Deity lowered the amount of unhappiness on the player on large maps so it would allow it to play out more like it does on Standard sized maps. It almost takes domination victories off the table unless you ninja only capitals. This is a tough start, but if Marb can pull off that Rome victory over the Incan then anything is possible. That series was a lost cause and he found a way to win.
I think this game is a lost cause. Bad start, Korea and you are quite boxed in... yeah, gg.
Korea is too ridiculous, i have seen him be 2 eras ahead of everyone else multiple times in my games.
You should play as Korea sometimes, they have an easy time going to war in the early game because they don't need to rush Universities that fast.
korea in the game 10/10 want to play too
take gronnigen! :)
I hate William, the guy spams cities like crazy in all my games...
I've got a REALLY bad feeling about this one. I think you used up all your luck on the last LP.
get a trade route as soon as possible for the science. philosophy taking 40 turns is too much.
this such a bad start :(