I think u hv wrong perception about India. Yes in some cases it looks like govt is against a particular religion. But still I hv seen govt only ban some of their religious law which is against the humanity and equality. U must read shah bano case 1985, where govt of India( that time congress) reversed court decision by a legislation . Either u dont hv complete knowledge about Indian political or societal system or u r simply against a political party.
Yes, Merve Kavakçı, as a deputy, violated the constitution of that time. It's already absurd for someone who breaks the law to swear that she'll obey the law. Also, she was not expelled from Turkish citizenship just for this! She was a US citizen and she hided her dual citizenship from the supreme assembly. Since a dual citizen deputy cannot be accepted in the parliament, she has been naturally deprived of her citizenship. Please do not provide incomplete information! 2:10
The word "religion" has no prescriptive definition that scholars agree upon. Generally, people incorrectly assume the word "religion" applies ONLY to theistic worldviews but not to non-theistic worldviews. This is false. If the word religion is going to be used at all, it must be applied to both equally (although almost no one does this, since everyone falsely conflates theism with religion)
Long live the legacy of Kemal Ataturk!! Yes to the secular state! Promoting a society of progress and rational thought is a good thing. People could be religious but not impede on other people's rights.
It doesn't matter whether religously based or not, we should be nationalists in the first place. People use nationalism as excuse for saying it's what unites people...bs, people could get together well by many other means. We should be united in our humanity not under a flag or cross.
Hah, France and Pre-Erdogan Turkey (especially Turkey with the intense watch of the Kemalist army) would disagree with the american/UK style of liberal style of secularism.
@@johnpijano4786 America and UK are not secular. Because they don't need to be secular, they don't use religion as a political tool. Quran orders Muslims to rule the state according to the laws of the Quran. That's why hardcore secularism is necessary in muslim countries.
@@Shay-bp7yt Everyone has his top value which is his religion, each worldview has it's own "god/s" Some worship stones, cows, his country and land, his political party or his Nafs (desires) Sometimes it also polytheism from those "gods" Islam is strictly pure monotheism, with all of the values comes from Allah words, as he creates he commands.
Anyone remember when the Religious Founders wrote the U.S. Constitution basrd off their Biblical ideologies, as per their own notes, and gave into Secularists who would only sign the DOI if they could keep their slaves?
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul yup, they can, and America will survive so long as they assimilate to the rules of law. That doesn't mean that Muslims can wage Jihad or bring their african sex slaves or kill their daughters for showing their face, that doesn't mean that Commies can't bring their red guard or totalitarian government, that doesn't mean that Nazi's can bring their concentration camps and kill whosoever doesn't agree with them, that doesn't mean KKK's can harassment blacks and jews, that doesn't mean UK can bring their taxes and petty economics, that doesn't mean that Indians can bring their house slaves, that doesn't mean that NoKorea can bring their death camps and disappear their enemies, that doesn't mean that China can bring their Covid camps and human organ repo vans....what it means is they can all come if they stick to the Constitutional laws of the land which were originally based on the Morals of Jesus Christ and from the books/scriptures of the Bible.
The example you gave about Turkey is not quite the right example, it is about the secular and religious state.///They started from their headscarves and today they came to the position that women cannot participate in the Olympics. A religious government that says we think in common with the Taliban.
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@@serhatoz8876 where the Quran said Marry children ?? Enslave people??? Slaves were basically a result of war Everyone had slaves In islam slave can free himself whenever he wants too Death penalty only apply for adult men Leaving the religion means betraying the state Didn't usa impose law anyone Who refuse to get drafted will get killed ? Rape?? U know rape penalty is execution in Islam U don't even have any moral standard What are u stranding for??
@@coolboycoolboy6314 Your comment made your religion look very violent. "Everyone had slaves"? so you think its moral to own another person? You think its moral to marry a 9 year old little girl? You think its moral to murder someone because they don't believe your fairytale? This is awful. Your religion is a stain on this planet. I can't imagine how many have be tortured and killed in the name of your pathetic god. He can't even talk! I hope you feel shame.
@@serhatoz8876 Look at these psychos. This dude is literally saying it's perfectly OK to own another human as property and touching kids is just "part of the times"
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I think u hv wrong perception about India. Yes in some cases it looks like govt is against a particular religion. But still I hv seen govt only ban some of their religious law which is against the humanity and equality. U must read shah bano case 1985, where govt of India( that time congress) reversed court decision by a legislation . Either u dont hv complete knowledge about Indian political or societal system or u r simply against a political party.
Yes, Merve Kavakçı, as a deputy, violated the constitution of that time. It's already absurd for someone who breaks the law to swear that she'll obey the law. Also, she was not expelled from Turkish citizenship just for this! She was a US citizen and she hided her dual citizenship from the supreme assembly. Since a dual citizen deputy cannot be accepted in the parliament, she has been naturally deprived of her citizenship. Please do not provide incomplete information! 2:10
USA supported radical islamists erdogan party for years
The word "religion" has no prescriptive definition that scholars agree upon.
Generally, people incorrectly assume the word "religion" applies ONLY to theistic worldviews but not to non-theistic worldviews. This is false.
If the word religion is going to be used at all, it must be applied to both equally (although almost no one does this, since everyone falsely conflates theism with religion)
This is dumb.
Long live the legacy of Kemal Ataturk!! Yes to the secular state! Promoting a society of progress and rational thought is a good thing. People could be religious but not impede on other people's rights.
Why are they conflating liberalism and capitalism with secular nationalism? Plenty of secularsocialist and nationalist countries
Secularism as a whole is the result of liberal ideals.
Yes this video is ridiculous
@@mongolianfishingvillages1371 in what way is it? Plenty of these countries have liberalism to blame for the atrocities no?
What do secular people think about the concept of wisdom?
What was your point?
Hey, i've translated the subtitles into Turkish. Please confirm it to be published
Not here
@@brenosantana1458 where?
I didn't show to me.
It doesn't matter whether religously based or not, we should be nationalists in the first place. People use nationalism as excuse for saying it's what unites people...bs, people could get together well by many other means. We should be united in our humanity not under a flag or cross.
Just let people have freedom to follow what they want like what’s your problem 😂
Hah, France and Pre-Erdogan Turkey (especially Turkey with the intense watch of the Kemalist army) would disagree with the american/UK style of liberal style of secularism.
In my county its free you can be gay if you want and stuff
imagine having an atheist or gay next to you
@@johnpijano4786 America and UK are not secular. Because they don't need to be secular, they don't use religion as a political tool. Quran orders Muslims to rule the state according to the laws of the Quran.
That's why hardcore secularism is necessary in muslim countries.
@@Malikin I would feel very uncomfortable.
Secular nationalism is the right way
Nationalism is religion itself
@@vj9086 no it's not.
@@Shay-bp7yt
Everyone has his top value which is his religion, each worldview has it's own "god/s"
Some worship stones, cows, his country and land, his political party or his Nafs (desires)
Sometimes it also polytheism from those "gods"
Islam is strictly pure monotheism, with all of the values comes from Allah words, as he creates he commands.
LOL
Nice Joke
Anyone remember when the Religious Founders wrote the U.S. Constitution basrd off their Biblical ideologies, as per their own notes, and gave into Secularists who would only sign the DOI if they could keep their slaves?
@@south1328 did they delete my comment?
@@south1328 though yall wanted documented history, not echo chambers. I'm out...
I love how they believed every race and religion can enter the USA
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul yup, they can, and America will survive so long as they assimilate to the rules of law. That doesn't mean that Muslims can wage Jihad or bring their african sex slaves or kill their daughters for showing their face, that doesn't mean that Commies can't bring their red guard or totalitarian government, that doesn't mean that Nazi's can bring their concentration camps and kill whosoever doesn't agree with them, that doesn't mean KKK's can harassment blacks and jews, that doesn't mean UK can bring their taxes and petty economics, that doesn't mean that Indians can bring their house slaves, that doesn't mean that NoKorea can bring their death camps and disappear their enemies, that doesn't mean that China can bring their Covid camps and human organ repo vans....what it means is they can all come if they stick to the Constitutional laws of the land which were originally based on the Morals of Jesus Christ and from the books/scriptures of the Bible.
@@redfishbluefish965 will never happen
I am a Hindu Nationalist but do not oppose a secular state. India belongs to all.
Yet they kill Muslims for killing their God or beef.
Unless you have a God and beef is some divine being
The example you gave about Turkey is not quite the right example, it is about the secular and religious state.///They started from their headscarves and today they came to the position that women cannot participate in the Olympics. A religious government that says we think in common with the Taliban.
Theses leaders see themselves as God's, they aren't secular.
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Only one will allowed. sharia law
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lol sharia law, its so much misunderstood.
how ? sharia; Does it not order child marriage, slavery, concubinage, rape through plundering, death punishment for leaving religion?
@@serhatoz8876 where the Quran said Marry children ??
Enslave people???
Slaves were basically a result of war
Everyone had slaves
In islam slave can free himself whenever he wants too
Death penalty only apply for adult men
Leaving the religion means betraying the state
Didn't usa impose law anyone
Who refuse to get drafted will get killed ?
Rape??
U know rape penalty is execution in Islam
U don't even have any moral standard
What are u stranding for??
@@coolboycoolboy6314 why is the death penalty only for men? Why not for women who commited the same crime?
@@coolboycoolboy6314 Your comment made your religion look very violent. "Everyone had slaves"? so you think its moral to own another person? You think its moral to marry a 9 year old little girl? You think its moral to murder someone because they don't believe your fairytale? This is awful.
Your religion is a stain on this planet. I can't imagine how many have be tortured and killed in the name of your pathetic god. He can't even talk! I hope you feel shame.
@@serhatoz8876 Look at these psychos. This dude is literally saying it's perfectly OK to own another human as property and touching kids is just "part of the times"
Freeee Palestine
Bias as expected
Stfu you ain’t even Turkish
Hinduvta respects secularism. Its the otherside who doesnt.