@lx-touchigaming3597 m1 3 times, 2, 3, m1 to keep them in place, side dash, m1 3 times, 1. That is LITERALLY spamming. I can pull that odd by mashing keys lmao 😭
I used to hate Sonic so much that I wouls get to a point where I would play with EVERY character except Sonic. That changed one day when I decided to try Sonic, and.. It was quite fun to use honestly. I went on a rampage with him (I got called a spammer) and after that day, I started playing with him.
The reason why i main Sonic is because of his movements. You can literally dodge a deadly move by just using scatter or flash strike. Sonic relies on movement so when you mastered that, you'll be the most hated player in the server. You'll barely see them in-combat. It's a great character when you're battling against teamers. I'll recommend using Sonic to win against teamers. The things I disliked about Sonic is that his combos aren't really true, just use evasive and block and that combo won't do anything. He can get countered easily and Sonic's kit is the worst. His Awakening is a different story. You'll move so fast that players need to react at faster than the speed of sound to counter it. It's a 100% guarantee kill, you cannot escape from it. (Except Tatsumaki with her flying abilities and Saitama with awakening) Ever since I've been using Sonic people call me a spammer when I'm literally doing a combo or a runner when i never went aggresive or just by escaping a combo that could have killed me. Funny thing is that Sonic players have the same personality as the Sonic in the anime. -They came back after losing. -After losing a fight: "How did i lose that fight?" -Runs to refresh moves or to recover. -going up against strong foes. -very annoying. -has beef with Saitama and Genos. -can be goofy sometimes.
ye ur coping, sonic isnt about movement. it moves really fast ye ill give you that, but why are you using a move to run away from another when your supposed to do damage. thats practically the specifics of running.
The coping is wild, Sonic has one of the most op movesets in the game. When in a controller players hands it is impossible to dodge. Scatter has insane range and is impossible to dodge. The combos are so easy a newborn who just learned the word "dada" could do it. Scatter, m1s, whirlwind kick, flash strike, shuriken. Easy af
I'm annoying and I don't let you fight anyone else and I don't get close until you leave the game. The last one I irritated I spent 3 hours focusing on him and I'm happy 😁👌
@@Normalname-gu8joit’s just that sonic *doesn’t* have neither techs or technical combos, it’s just scatter into like 90 m1s then flash strike and explosive shuriken and that’s it
@@kiaragarcia1998? If they have evasive, 3m1 explosive flash strike, without evasive you can get damage from 4m1 so they ragdoll away, walk forwards, jump explosive shuriken, so they roll towards you, then 3 m1 then scatter, 3m1 whirlwind 4m1 downslam flash strike, foward dash into them to gain distance.
I've fought 11 sonic players on Duels, all of them follow the same strategy: Run, use the same combo everytime, and wait for they're rival to ragequit or kill him
Types of things ive seen players trying to do when facing a sonic spammer: 1: spam preys peril, spilt second counter. (pretty much every counter move in the game so far) 2: block every attack. 3: team on a sonic user.
honestly teamming on a sonic isnt even that great since his move set gives the ability to kite until you can hit 1 of them alone or zone them away to slowly drain both of them thanks to the fact that his moves all have aoe
As a Sonic main, something I like to do if they just hold block is either wait for my abilities to charge or if they are. I either throw an exploding shuriken or just dash towards them to do close combat m1's. The m1 strat tends to sometimes overwhelm them. Lowering their guard and making them open to my other attacks.
@@Shadow-hedgehog-ultimateallow me to explain, he is good at sonic and most likely he is telling the truth and not spamming at all and all he is saying is that base sonic is easy to kill/counter but hope to be alive when your fighting a sonic that is in ult
@@PervertBillyou do not know for yourself if he is good or bad at tsb, he might actually be better than you and by that annoyance or frustration you've would have think he is spamming for that reason that he is good at using sonic
“Every sonic runs!!” I guarantee 100% of sonics dont run “Every sonic spams!!” Thats called a combo if u cant counter a spamming sonic just quit man “Every sonic kill steals!!” Yes,so does every other player with a different character
As a sonic main, most of the time I can be fighting someone and winning (i haven't gone 5 feet away from them at all), then they call me a runner and full sprint across the map.
fr when i play sonic im rreally agressive and i dont run but they still call me runner and spammer even tho they hold block and block every move sonic moves are easly blockable but people still complain
Pros and cons of sonic Pros -fast moveset -really good gimic -easy to kill steal -can take down Teamers -great ult Cons -easy to counter -easy to block spam -has the worst kit in game -his 2 block breaking moves can be predicted and can’t combo extend apart from shuriken (sort of) -easy to escape moves -easy to escape combos -most combos aren’t true -hard to use move set without people block spamming -get called a spammer when you actually combo -get called a runner when you don’t play aggressive -hard to play aggressive when your opponent is js block spamming 99% of the time 😀 Pros-5. Cons-11 (edit: i did not mean to start a war in the comments 😳😳😳😳)
What is block spamming? It has no cooldown for a reason, and there are tons of ways to counter it, even with just m1s and dashing. Don't know why blocking is complained about
Honestly 95% of the hate comes from people who are just bad at the game and refuse to adapt. It's way easier to complain about your problems than to learn how to solve them. -3 out of the 4 moves can be blocked -Nothing is stopping you from playing something like tatsumaki or genos that counters Sonic -A lot of the moves are predictable, moves like flash strike and scatter can easily be countered by observing the animation that plays before activation (OR JUST HOLD F) -Some of the moves can easily be punished if executed poorly (flash strike and whirlwind being good examples) The problem is that, even though it's a relatively well balanced character (except for the Ultimate), people simply choose to say the same excuses over and over and over again without fail. Things like "Spammer" don't even make sense when the character has cooldown on his moves. "Oh nooo, if he gets me into a combo I lose a lot of health!!", that's how EVERY character works, they just deal the damage in different ways and it's up to the player to learn how to avoid that damage. TL:DR Skill issue, get good
As a newbie playing against other newbies, I've found that Sonic is worse than most of the others that I've played against. He only really gets good when you play him well, which I cannot so far
sonic can actually be really good if you know how to combo, and I only like it because it’s AMAZING for runners. SOME PEOPLE OF TSB who use sonic can be good with sonic and don’t really spam, or run and actually know how to combo but it’s a very rare chance as from my experience playing tab,( even though I main sonic)And although most “sonic mains” are kill stealers are we not going to talk about Genos or Destructive Cyborg, like blitz shot and jet dive are probably the moves to EASILY kill steal. AND are we not going to talk about how busted tatsumaki is, like it’s crazy and the moves are really easy to land with the crushing pull, and windstorm fury.
7:04 Atomic samurai can zoning while running too, cuz of his 2 moves : Quick slice and pinpoint cut . You can use quick slice and run away but keeping dealing damage. Or you can run away and do unexpected attack , like you are running and using pinpoint cuz and dealing some damage +pinpoint cuz has big knockback.
The start of these both attacks are kinda slow and an average player can react to it and block easily, even if you hit it, your opponent has a chance to block your side dash m1 after the 1st move, or counter it, if his ping is low.
@@lolckrit if sonic ult is the meta saitamas is that one ult that should be banned in 1v1s due to them being able to use death counter, be able to attack you, but you cant attack them without being 1 shot, literally every ult is meant to be op
There’s two cool techs with sonic that I’m pretty sure are true Uppercut into explosive shuriken (combo extender) Uppercut into dash tech combined with flash strike 1 move( also combo extender
you can do the first one as well if you just do the basic 4th m1 and use shuriken instantly (careful with terrain altitude changes because it can make the shuriken whiff), its much easier to do than the uppercut into shuriken one imo
Tsb kids after they see a Sonic player who is generally better than them: "RUNNER🤡🤡🤡" (the guy has not even backstepped) "SPAM!!!🤓🤓🤓" (When spamming is just pressing random keys on the keyboard and no one is winning like that unless if opponent is A noob) They're so sad
In The Strongest Battlegrounds, Sonic (Deadly Ninja) has a few notable weaknesses despite his high mobility and speed. These include: 1. Low Defense: Sonic has minimal defensive capabilities, which makes him vulnerable to strong, high-damage characters if not played carefully. 2. Counterable Moves: Many of Sonic's moves are highly telegraphed and can be easily countered or dodged by skilled players. 3. Lack of Punch: While his agility makes him difficult to hit, Sonic’s damage output isn't as high as some other characters, meaning he can struggle against opponents who can evade his attacks or endure the damage. Mastering Sonic requires precision, but his weaknesses leave him reliant on player skill to capitalize on his mobility while avoiding getting hit by powerful attacks.
I am kinda tired of people slandering sonic, but it’s kinda right too, you see, when you’re a good sonic player, your reputation is already ruined due to others, just because THEY run and spam, doesn’t mean YOU run and spam too, it happens a lot really, I keep getting called spammer cause I used scatter without doing s combo extender and flashy moves, it just sucks honestly, but nice video yolked, +1 subscriber
When i use sonic, people call me "runner" or "spammer" when i did a combo on them. Some of them even spam and they called me a spammer when they tried to kill me by mashing buttons
I am a good controller player and I can say, sonic is very satisfying to use because you use the triggers and bummers, so they are right next to each other making it feel very smooth, I don’t play sonic much tho because I don’t like sonic even if I’m good with sonic
Sonic haters when someone tells them to "just block": Ok, edit: I just finished the video and I'm not so sure about it, there is a fifth type of sonic player I would like to add although it is almost unheard of but it is the type of player I am when I play sonic once every month or two months called the "Anti-Sonic" where the sonic in question will actually fight you and refuse to run or let their enemy run, also, I don't think Sonic is overpowered since, even if they are hard to catch, when they fight or if you don't lose your composure, they are one of the weakest move sets since their cooldowns kinda suck for having a mostly blockable move set, most Sonic users have become so used to not fighting that they forgor how to which means if you're smart and can cancel their wind-ups they can't go anywhere. I can say for certain that the ultimate is absolutely busted and unfair unless the player fighting the sonic ult is just THAT good, I think Atomic is the best counter for Sonic's ult, especially now with his ult being one of the best in the game since not only can his first base move can cancel Straight On and Twin Blade, base 3 can help Atomic get out of Sonic ult 3 and Atmos Cleave litterally puts you over Sonic's four (which isn't mentioned at all in the video despite it litterally giving I-frames), if you're REALLY struggling against Sonic players then the best way to learn how to counter Sonic is to either actively go after Sonics to see how they behave or play sonic to see how you get countered and then use that later on when fighting one, the best piece of advice I can give any Sonic player is to be an "Anti-Sonic" because while the moveset is mid and people love to exaggerate Sonic since it isn't strong just hard to catch, it is actually very fun to play when actively fighting a person. Goddamn that's a lotta text, I'll just spam 'Enter' so that people can see the meme and don't have to read this block of text my god I'm sorry.
People realizing that sonics "movement based moves" are objectively terrible design, and the jackasses who wrote this comment didn't use their brain beforehand 🤣🫵
But there is one stereotyped player who exist among the shadows, he uses sonic only because he knows how to use it and counters and supprises everyone. he is just always there, and always existed. But aren’t popular. They are a menace to soiceth and aren’t on any food chain. And may god help us all when they pop their ult. A noob is deadly but a pro is unescapble. Please watch out for these menaces.
i started playing the stongest when sonic only had 3 base moves and i was new and i kept dying to him so i tried him and i loved him ive been using him since sonic is the goat i got 14k with him
I main sonic, bc he has one of the easiest self-taught combos out of all characters. He’s the first character I played, and I immediately learned a 1342M1U (M1U- M1 uppercut) combo. He’s really easy to pilot, and doesn’t give much time to react.
I started to play TSb when genos added everybody was talking about the next character sonic when sonic added to the game I love the character but also the character has so many issues For example running and other things I'm doing combos to someone and killing him and then he spamming "runner" for no reason if I run or not they are only saying I'm running away Players always see sonic as a running tool nobody sees the character as a normal character
i feel like the real problem is the lack of counter play since i saw games with similar characters/playstyle and not being hated on because they are manageable
@@Yougiso1009... Passive, weak Skill 1, weak Skill2, weak Skill 3, not even weak, it's fucking useless Skill 4, weak Legit ALL OF HIS SKILLS ARE WEAK! block. That's it! That's all you need to do it defeat a sonic. And and and.... His ult is not even the best! Saitama, mb, tatsumaki, ALL ARE BETTER! YET, YET, YET, SONIC IS SAID TO BE "too op". "Too runny" "too hard to fight" Bro... That's just a SKILL ISSUEEEEEEE!!!!!
@@KianAshleeNones-qv9pnpretty sure sonic is guaranteed death if they land a single move like twinblade rush is best ult move in game aside from death counter you can't survive sonic without tatsumaki ult or saitama
"It's a beautiful day outside. birds are singing. Flowers are blooming. on days like these. Kids like you. should be watching this strongest battlegrounds youtuber."
also ult the twin blade and straight on just use a move to cancel them also straight on and fourfold strike if u dodge them they stun the player in place at the end of move with no god frames so u can attack them while stund and carnage u can cancel it
it seems like a very rare class of sonic users are evolving that have figured out how to play it. Will they survive the food chain? only time will tell…
I think you did the best job on this video that's great! Also about my opinion i hate ut when someone use sonic to spam and run i mean if you want to spam it's a playstyle BUT DON'T RUN IT SUCKS
My story: I combo'ed a player badly while being close to him with only explosive shuriken and whirlwind kick. Guess what? I was literally doing the m1s slowly and that person called me "Runner" and "Spammer". Like bro not every sonic player is runner or spammer
I normally use Genos and Martial artist, but I don't spam or run, I do close range fighting because it is honestly fun. Sonic players are weak to me, I have found a really great way to counter them is to use an insanely overpowered combo in Genos or Martial Artist where you can keep them from moving, or to emote so they waltz right back to you.
Nah, if you know to use sonic, then it is opposite. Sonic moveset is hard-counter to Tatsumaki. I know from my experience, i tried both characters hard combos. But i always die to sonic with tatsumaki.
Oh boy how much i love countering flash strike and scatter using blade masters split second counter which literally teleports you to the enemy after countering and then combo away
I enjoyed the video, here is my opinion on using sonic though. If its not exploits, fight to win use as many tactics as possible no matter how underhanded it is if they cry about it just say womp womp because they are hypocritical.
They hate me as a Sonic main cause I run... I run forward. They also hate me because I abuse back dashes and use my skills right after animation so they can't tell if I'm boutta Scatter, honestly I think it's more on being unpredictable rather than being naive.
Because sonic has the potential of being the most overpowered character in the entire roaster. Yes, even more than genos. Sonic is the most annoying, op, stupid, easy and cheesy character in the game. People are just MAD BAD with him.
I main metal bat and sonic, I'd say the main reason that people hate sonic is just because they don't like the way his main counter works, countering sonic is pressing the F button on your keyboard for like 3 seconds while he wastes his moves. But people are impatient
Sonic is actually not that bad, I say that at least as a dude who plays sonic here and there, his base moves are (mostly) balanced cuz flash strike and scatter have a mild windup and scatter can be cancelled mid move and it is ridiculously ez to counter, the 2nd ability which I won't even bother trynna spell is just an unreliable and highly punishable glorified downslam and then the shuriken is just a "parry this you filthy casual" to block spammers. Even though the ult IS overpowered but funnily enough, saitama exists and nobody is saying his ult is overpowered are. Even though, this is from a non-runner point of view still with the fact that there are counters in the game, I heavily doubt explosive shuriken is that big of a deal (even though blade master should be able to counter explosive shuriken in my opinion) but still it is more of a nuisance for actual play if ur doing a combo, like, how tf are you supossed to follow up from explosive shuriken bruh.
In my opinion, you cant *really spam* with sonic due to its lack of block breaks (or moves that do chip damage) because unless your opponent just, doesnt block you cant just throw out moves, the only chars where you can "spam" and maybe win are genos and MAYBE metal bat
Mained sonic for 6 months, this is the average experience: Other: *spam blocks cause of sonic moves Sonic: *spam explosive as it’s the only option to spam blockers Other: calls sonic a spammer Sonic: 😑
I'm a newbie and I just play him because I love ninja-esque gameplay and find it very fun. Despite dying a lot, idk if sonic is especially rough on brand spankin new players or what. I'm probably just bad lol. I saw this video by recommendations when looking at a sonic guide!
I think you should have added the fifth category: The chill. The chill are like me: as long as im not attacked i don't bite. And also does friendly emotes.
when you are a saitama garou or suiryu it gets very annoying to fight agains the others since u need to approach the enemy and they can use any ability at any time so the only solution is to block and wait to the spammers to come close
I hate how when i use sonic and do an actual combo, it's SPAMMING. But when someone's spamming with garou or saitama they defend it.
Spamming with only close range moves?? Ok lmao
@@bigdrandy-hn3rc you seem completely oblivious to the fact that you can spam with long and short range moves.
@@R4mMyB3l0vedgarou and Saitama are impossible to spam since they’re moves rely on m1 attacks first
@lx-touchigaming3597 m1 3 times, 2, 3, m1 to keep them in place, side dash, m1 3 times, 1. That is LITERALLY spamming. I can pull that odd by mashing keys lmao 😭
@@R4mMyB3l0ved LMFAOOOOOOOO
“why are you disappointed its just a video”
Me: who uses sonic correctly and still getting called a "runner" and a "spammer"
😔
I can sadly relate
they need to buff sonic bro
@@AarushDaDudenah he is fine, he is weak by default but it's strong if you know how to use it
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I used to hate Sonic so much that I wouls get to a point where I would play with EVERY character except Sonic.
That changed one day when I decided to try Sonic, and.. It was quite fun to use honestly.
I went on a rampage with him (I got called a spammer) and after that day, I started playing with him.
Its quite normal to be called a spammer or runner as sonic due to the nature of his neutral gameplay. Trust me lol I have 17k kills as a sonic main.
@@robloxian-craft1941how can you be so relatable
@@arlochan3092 if I'm not wrong it's what the kids call being in touch
@@robloxian-craft194117k stolen kills*
Because you are one 😂
If pro isn't being sweaty, isn't blocking, isn't dashing, isn't combinating keys or skills, isn't comboing... Then what is a pro?
Being a bad player that is easily killable so the 12 year olds don’t get angry when you whoops them.
Alot of very good players don't even block
Being a UA-cam that is destroying people but it's actually just staged as hell.
The reason why i main Sonic is because of his movements. You can literally dodge a deadly move by just using scatter or flash strike.
Sonic relies on movement so when you mastered that, you'll be the most hated player in the server. You'll barely see them in-combat.
It's a great character when you're battling against teamers. I'll recommend using Sonic to win against teamers.
The things I disliked about Sonic is that his combos aren't really true, just use evasive and block and that combo won't do anything. He can get countered easily and Sonic's kit is the worst.
His Awakening is a different story. You'll move so fast that players need to react at faster than the speed of sound to counter it. It's a 100% guarantee kill, you cannot escape from it. (Except Tatsumaki with her flying abilities and Saitama with awakening)
Ever since I've been using Sonic people call me a spammer when I'm literally doing a combo or a runner when i never went aggresive or just by escaping a combo that could have killed me.
Funny thing is that Sonic players have the same personality as the Sonic in the anime.
-They came back after losing.
-After losing a fight:
"How did i lose that fight?"
-Runs to refresh moves or to recover.
-going up against strong foes.
-very annoying.
-has beef with Saitama and Genos.
-can be goofy sometimes.
-got punch in the balls
@@Dusk-Youkai lol
Ngl sonic needs his flash strike extender back, they removed it cus it was true 50/50 but shove still exists in this game
ye ur coping, sonic isnt about movement. it moves really fast ye ill give you that, but why are you using a move to run away from another when your supposed to do damage. thats practically the specifics of running.
The coping is wild, Sonic has one of the most op movesets in the game. When in a controller players hands it is impossible to dodge. Scatter has insane range and is impossible to dodge. The combos are so easy a newborn who just learned the word "dada" could do it. Scatter, m1s, whirlwind kick, flash strike, shuriken. Easy af
Ive found the counter to runners is just to emote. They just waltz right back to you
Shuriken,blitz shot.
Prey’s peril
Also you can just do the reverse and run away from the spammer
And just do a combo
I'm annoying and I don't let you fight anyone else and I don't get close until you leave the game. The last one I irritated I spent 3 hours focusing on him and I'm happy 😁👌
@RENAN_PDS no one asked.
I often get called a runner for preforming this simple technique: circling around the enemy
Omgg me too 😂
Bro it's the most relatable thing ever
Yep people just hate sonic
Its like no one knows what dodging is
@@dragergrap yea i get called "runner" by a 10k kills garou user when i literally just side dash.
very average garou user
Whenever people actually try to appreciate or just play sonic as a main: *insert a comically wide Garou main screaming*
As a garou main myself i can confirm.
you cant play sonic unironically as a main unless ur stupid
Sonic user: *does tge most technical combo ever
The person they were fighting: SPAMMER! RUNNER! SONIC USER!
@@Normalname-gu8joit’s just that sonic *doesn’t* have neither techs or technical combos, it’s just scatter into like 90 m1s then flash strike and explosive shuriken and that’s it
@@kiaragarcia1998? If they have evasive, 3m1 explosive flash strike, without evasive you can get damage from 4m1 so they ragdoll away, walk forwards, jump explosive shuriken, so they roll towards you, then 3 m1 then scatter, 3m1 whirlwind 4m1 downslam flash strike, foward dash into them to gain distance.
Most people claim how sonics are the runners but when I use sonic i see the exact opposite
its bc u dont be a bull shit like the other runners
I've fought 11 sonic players on Duels, all of them follow the same strategy:
Run, use the same combo everytime, and wait for they're rival to ragequit or kill him
@@Darting536 well different people play different ways lol
@@Darting536combo all I see is spamming their moves and run away it’s annoying
@@ShadowGod17you aren’t fighting good sonic players
Types of things ive seen players trying to do when facing a sonic spammer: 1: spam preys peril, spilt second counter. (pretty much every counter move in the game so far) 2: block every attack. 3: team on a sonic user.
Bro attacked and defended sonic users at the same time
@@TheRegularPlayerChannel Yessir
honestly teamming on a sonic isnt even that great since his move set gives the ability to kite until you can hit 1 of them alone or zone them away to slowly drain both of them thanks to the fact that his moves all have aoe
As a Sonic main, something I like to do if they just hold block is either wait for my abilities to charge or if they are. I either throw an exploding shuriken or just dash towards them to do close combat m1's.
The m1 strat tends to sometimes overwhelm them. Lowering their guard and making them open to my other attacks.
As a professional sonic player with 10k+ kills I can safely say base sonic is easy to counter and middle of the road to use. If it's ultimate: P R A Y
Get skill
You're not a professional 💀
@@Shadow-hedgehog-ultimateallow me to explain, he is good at sonic and most likely he is telling the truth and not spamming at all and all he is saying is that base sonic is easy to kill/counter but hope to be alive when your fighting a sonic that is in ult
It's not a hard character to beat if the person is actually playing without running, it's only stereotyped because of its ability to run.
@@PervertBillyou do not know for yourself if he is good or bad at tsb, he might actually be better than you and by that annoyance or frustration you've would have think he is spamming for that reason that he is good at using sonic
“Every sonic runs!!”
I guarantee 100% of sonics dont run
“Every sonic spams!!”
Thats called a combo if u cant counter a spamming sonic just quit man
“Every sonic kill steals!!”
Yes,so does every other player with a different character
👍
i can get you video proof of a sonic running if you want
the last one is 100% relatable
Fr these people just have something against the name sonic/deadly ninja
hit the nail on the head
Something I don’t get is how combo-ing with sonic is called spamming but combo-ing with anyone else is just combo-ing
Because people don’t understand how sonic tech works
Noobs: Sonic is so strong!
Pros: Dang buff Sonic he's too weak
Not a single pro has said that
Sonic is overpowered but blockable I don't hate sonic of being weak
@@Ch3z_Borgor its cause sonic needs a buff but people don't know how to deal with it
pros are the one who are blockers they are not pro probably
Sonic does not need a buff at all, quit yapping
As a sonic main, most of the time I can be fighting someone and winning (i haven't gone 5 feet away from them at all), then they call me a runner and full sprint across the map.
fr when i play sonic im rreally agressive and i dont run but they still call me runner and spammer even tho they hold block and block every move
sonic moves are easly blockable but people still complain
@@rayen7146fr man sonic literally designed to charge into enemies instead of runninf
@@Metallic23-l3n fr his first 3 moves is desgned to engage in combat but people use it to run
Im a sonic user but i dont steal kills but i do steal them back, i dont run.
But they call me a runner because i pressed d on my keyboard.
Actually the most efficient way to run is with W since if you use D you don't sprint backwards, but if you W in the other direction you sprint.
i steal kills and then kill the person i stole. im a proud toxic , kill stealing sonic user
Pros and cons of sonic
Pros
-fast moveset
-really good gimic
-easy to kill steal
-can take down Teamers
-great ult
Cons
-easy to counter
-easy to block spam
-has the worst kit in game
-his 2 block breaking moves can be predicted and can’t combo extend apart from shuriken (sort of)
-easy to escape moves
-easy to escape combos
-most combos aren’t true
-hard to use move set without people block spamming
-get called a spammer when you actually combo
-get called a runner when you don’t play aggressive
-hard to play aggressive when your opponent is js block spamming 99% of the time 😀
Pros-5. Cons-11
(edit: i did not mean to start a war in the comments 😳😳😳😳)
Am sonic player who doesnt run and kill steal. Am learning combos (the hard ones) and using them.
Block spamming is actually easy to counter
@@dawnthewisdomfr just dash behind them and click, start your combo and thats it
@@atir15 block spamming with predict is way harder to counter tho
What is block spamming? It has no cooldown for a reason, and there are tons of ways to counter it, even with just m1s and dashing. Don't know why blocking is complained about
"It's only a game, why do you have to be mad?"
*prowler music*
@@TheXeno68 lol
You'll understand play the strongest battlegrounds and learn everything about it first
@@kemaewashingtonits a joke
@@kemaewashington we knows that pain while chasing runners
Honestly 95% of the hate comes from people who are just bad at the game and refuse to adapt. It's way easier to complain about your problems than to learn how to solve them.
-3 out of the 4 moves can be blocked
-Nothing is stopping you from playing something like tatsumaki or genos that counters Sonic
-A lot of the moves are predictable, moves like flash strike and scatter can easily be countered by observing the animation that plays before activation (OR JUST HOLD F)
-Some of the moves can easily be punished if executed poorly (flash strike and whirlwind being good examples)
The problem is that, even though it's a relatively well balanced character (except for the Ultimate), people simply choose to say the same excuses over and over and over again without fail. Things like "Spammer" don't even make sense when the character has cooldown on his moves. "Oh nooo, if he gets me into a combo I lose a lot of health!!", that's how EVERY character works, they just deal the damage in different ways and it's up to the player to learn how to avoid that damage.
TL:DR
Skill issue, get good
Spammer is like a...used range and no hand to hand combat and when the cooldown is finished they immediately SPAM the moves
As a newbie playing against other newbies, I've found that Sonic is worse than most of the others that I've played against. He only really gets good when you play him well, which I cannot so far
sonic can actually be really good if you know how to combo, and I only like it because it’s AMAZING for runners. SOME PEOPLE OF TSB who use sonic can be good with sonic and don’t really spam, or run and actually know how to combo but it’s a very rare chance as from my experience playing tab,( even though I main sonic)And although most “sonic mains” are kill stealers are we not going to talk about Genos or Destructive Cyborg, like blitz shot and jet dive are probably the moves to EASILY kill steal. AND are we not going to talk about how busted tatsumaki is, like it’s crazy and the moves are really easy to land with the crushing pull, and windstorm fury.
genos and destructive cyborg are the same thing sonic does low damage combos and tatsumaki is trash if you spam block
faxx
7:04 Atomic samurai can zoning while running too, cuz of his 2 moves : Quick slice and pinpoint cut . You can use quick slice and run away but keeping dealing damage. Or you can run away and do unexpected attack , like you are running and using pinpoint cuz
and dealing some damage
+pinpoint cuz has big knockback.
The start of these both attacks are kinda slow and an average player can react to it and block easily, even if you hit it, your opponent has a chance to block your side dash m1 after the 1st move, or counter it, if his ping is low.
The David Attenborough voice at the beginning was great, super happy ur gonna use this as a new voice over
thanks
People simply refuse to learn how to counter him and prefer to cry (im a metal bat main)
Theres no countering when sonic uses ult (except for death counter and death blow)
@@lolckrit I do agree that his ult is very, very powerful
@@lolckrit if sonic ult is the meta saitamas is that one ult that should be banned in 1v1s due to them being able to use death counter, be able to attack you, but you cant attack them without being 1 shot, literally every ult is meant to be op
@lolckrit the F button
bro the vid was so good
you gained a sub my man especially the voice over was amazing
the voice is ai
I main Sonic and I have an accessory that says “Nah, I’d run.” Most of the time I play pretty aggressively tho, but I thought it’d be funny.
There’s two cool techs with sonic that I’m pretty sure are true
Uppercut into explosive shuriken (combo extender)
Uppercut into dash tech combined with flash strike 1 move( also combo extender
1st one is true, second one got patched a while back, it now launches them backwards instead of keeping them stunned
you can do the first one as well if you just do the basic 4th m1 and use shuriken instantly (careful with terrain altitude changes because it can make the shuriken whiff), its much easier to do than the uppercut into shuriken one imo
Ur so underrated never give up you will become a famous UA-camr
Others: I hATe SoNIc BecAUse hE HaS mOVe aBiliTIeS
No one even talks about the damage being minimal
idk how you dont have alot of views and subs you deserve something better :>
Tsb kids after they see a Sonic player who is generally better than them: "RUNNER🤡🤡🤡" (the guy has not even backstepped) "SPAM!!!🤓🤓🤓" (When spamming is just pressing random keys on the keyboard and no one is winning like that unless if opponent is A noob)
They're so sad
Instead of running as sonic, I have to use flash strike to catch up to the people I fight (they hold f and s like their life depends on it)
In The Strongest Battlegrounds, Sonic (Deadly Ninja) has a few notable weaknesses despite his high mobility and speed. These include:
1. Low Defense: Sonic has minimal defensive capabilities, which makes him vulnerable to strong, high-damage characters if not played carefully.
2. Counterable Moves: Many of Sonic's moves are highly telegraphed and can be easily countered or dodged by skilled players.
3. Lack of Punch: While his agility makes him difficult to hit, Sonic’s damage output isn't as high as some other characters, meaning he can struggle against opponents who can evade his attacks or endure the damage.
Mastering Sonic requires precision, but his weaknesses leave him reliant on player skill to capitalize on his mobility while avoiding getting hit by powerful attacks.
I am kinda tired of people slandering sonic, but it’s kinda right too, you see, when you’re a good sonic player, your reputation is already ruined due to others, just because THEY run and spam, doesn’t mean YOU run and spam too, it happens a lot really, I keep getting called spammer cause I used scatter without doing s combo extender and flashy moves, it just sucks honestly, but nice video yolked, +1 subscriber
When i use sonic, people call me "runner" or "spammer" when i did a combo on them. Some of them even spam and they called me a spammer when they tried to kill me by mashing buttons
I'm Sonic but don't run
+9999 Aura
But they call you runner, because you run forward.
Wait till I press G on mah keyboard 😈
No offense.
Cap
Same bro im use sonic its my main
Reasons why i hate with sonics is that u can EASILY get move or combos with scatter even though u block due to good ping
They can use scatter and get a free combo it’s stupid
@@ShadowGod17 totally agree, and to make it worse, they can run very easily
So, most of the people hate him because he's doing his job
I am a good controller player and I can say, sonic is very satisfying to use because you use the triggers and bummers, so they are right next to each other making it feel very smooth, I don’t play sonic much tho because I don’t like sonic even if I’m good with sonic
What about people who are just good at sonic? Or can you not counter sonic so thats why you never added that?
People use sonic without run and spam:🍷🗿
👍
Me
Me
How do you spam in a game with set cooldowns
Sonic haters when someone tells them to "just block":
Ok, edit: I just finished the video and I'm not so sure about it, there is a fifth type of sonic player I would like to add although it is almost unheard of but it is the type of player I am when I play sonic once every month or two months called the "Anti-Sonic" where the sonic in question will actually fight you and refuse to run or let their enemy run, also, I don't think Sonic is overpowered since, even if they are hard to catch, when they fight or if you don't lose your composure, they are one of the weakest move sets since their cooldowns kinda suck for having a mostly blockable move set, most Sonic users have become so used to not fighting that they forgor how to which means if you're smart and can cancel their wind-ups they can't go anywhere. I can say for certain that the ultimate is absolutely busted and unfair unless the player fighting the sonic ult is just THAT good, I think Atomic is the best counter for Sonic's ult, especially now with his ult being one of the best in the game since not only can his first base move can cancel Straight On and Twin Blade, base 3 can help Atomic get out of Sonic ult 3 and Atmos Cleave litterally puts you over Sonic's four (which isn't mentioned at all in the video despite it litterally giving I-frames), if you're REALLY struggling against Sonic players then the best way to learn how to counter Sonic is to either actively go after Sonics to see how they behave or play sonic to see how you get countered and then use that later on when fighting one, the best piece of advice I can give any Sonic player is to be an "Anti-Sonic" because while the moveset is mid and people love to exaggerate Sonic since it isn't strong just hard to catch, it is actually very fun to play when actively fighting a person. Goddamn that's a lotta text, I'll just spam 'Enter' so that people can see the meme and don't have to read this block of text my god I'm sorry.
Im sorry I did not order a yapachino
people when they realize sonic is fast as a movement based character: >:0
People when they realize that there is no counter play to constantly moving the opposite direction of their opponent
People when they realize there's a character that can destroy you with two abilities and when they ult you die in two attacks and cant even run
You die with two abilities of the ult with all characters but Saitama
People realizing that sonics "movement based moves" are objectively terrible design, and the jackasses who wrote this comment didn't use their brain beforehand 🤣🫵
But there is one stereotyped player who exist among the shadows, he uses sonic only because he knows how to use it and counters and supprises everyone. he is just always there, and always existed. But aren’t popular. They are a menace to soiceth and aren’t on any food chain. And may god help us all when they pop their ult. A noob is deadly but a pro is unescapble. Please watch out for these menaces.
i started playing the stongest when sonic only had 3 base moves and i was new and i kept dying to him so i tried him and i loved him ive been using him since sonic is the goat i got 14k with him
0:02 The undertale ref 😭
And now, they shall be cut by me
Uses all moves before they battle
I main sonic, bc he has one of the easiest self-taught combos out of all characters. He’s the first character I played, and I immediately learned a 1342M1U (M1U- M1 uppercut) combo. He’s really easy to pilot, and doesn’t give much time to react.
I started to play TSb when genos added everybody was talking about the next character sonic when sonic added to the game I love the character but also the character has so many issues
For example running and other things I'm doing combos to someone and killing him and then he spamming "runner" for no reason if I run or not they are only saying I'm running away
Players always see sonic as a running tool nobody sees the character as a normal character
You are right
i feel like the real problem is the lack of counter play since i saw games with similar characters/playstyle and not being hated on because they are manageable
Number #1: most players have skill issues.
(I'm not saying this because I'm sonic main I'm just spitting facts frfr)
His ult need hella nerf like how you gonna fight someone who keep spamming side dash
@@Yougiso1009cry about it they are just good
Cry kid
@@Yougiso1009...
Passive, weak
Skill 1, weak
Skill2, weak
Skill 3, not even weak, it's fucking useless
Skill 4, weak
Legit ALL OF HIS SKILLS ARE WEAK!
block. That's it! That's all you need to do it defeat a sonic.
And and and....
His ult is not even the best!
Saitama, mb, tatsumaki, ALL ARE BETTER!
YET, YET, YET, SONIC IS SAID TO BE "too op".
"Too runny" "too hard to fight"
Bro... That's just a SKILL ISSUEEEEEEE!!!!!
@@KianAshleeNones-qv9pnpretty sure sonic is guaranteed death if they land a single move like twinblade rush is best ult move in game aside from death counter
you can't survive sonic without tatsumaki ult or saitama
"It's a beautiful day outside. birds are singing. Flowers are blooming. on days like these. Kids like you. should be watching this strongest battlegrounds youtuber."
I play sonic as my main and trust me he is pretty good while fighting teamers besides garou but his moves gets countered so easily
Runner and spammer
Cope @@NubieBro
@@NubieBro yapper 🤡
But it's freaking blockable
Ur bad
4:54 I use anger and negative emotions to create a burning fuel inside of me, when I get mad, my skill gets a boost and my reaction time increases
Sonic players who don’t run are the most based people on the planet
I don't run but I'm sonic
Yeah I use sonic but I don't run (sometimes I do) but rarely
also ult the twin blade and straight on just use a move to cancel them also straight on and fourfold strike if u dodge them they stun the player in place at the end of move with no god frames so u can attack them while stund and carnage u can cancel it
Reasons.
1=spammers
2=toxic people (depends on people)
3=ult spammer
4=runner
Anything else?
Why you should be mad for that
ok wdym by "mad" its a reason, next time read correklty@@ramonacajr7836
how do you "spam ult"
@@JudgementBird643well not spamming they start losing and they ult
@@ItzBlazeBladeeveryone does that so that doesn’t count 💀 it’s common sense to get in ult when you’re low
I'm a Sonic main myself. I often get called a "spammer". Reason? Side dashing. Like every user does, no matter what their fighter is.
The new sonic is now tataumaki
Those damn 3 Sentences at the beginning gave me a heart attack
SANS!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
me as a spammy sonic player and none of those four categories:
it seems like a very rare class of sonic users are evolving that have figured out how to play it. Will they survive the food chain? only time will tell…
Sonic in tbs:🤡
Sonic in the anime:😐
Sonic the hedgehog: 🔥🥶
Headgeod?
@SwimmerBrody13 sorry I'm not English ✋️😅✋️ I've thought that was the name of the animal lol
@@Emanuele-hn4ky if you wanna correct it, it's "hedgehog" not trying to be rude btw, just trying to help
@@shadow-16385 ok, thx
@@Emanuele-hn4ky np
I think you did the best job on this video that's great!
Also about my opinion i hate ut when someone use sonic to spam and run i mean if you want to spam it's a playstyle
BUT
DON'T
RUN
IT
SUCKS
one of the best tsb youtubers real
you forgot one more "the sonic runner and spammer" they don't use any other moves but scatter and run till they get scatter back.
01:24 Lemon Jumpscare
My story:
I combo'ed a player badly while being close to him with only explosive shuriken and whirlwind kick. Guess what? I was literally doing the m1s slowly and that person called me "Runner" and "Spammer". Like bro not every sonic player is runner or spammer
It's like staying away from clowns just because they look like pennywise even tho the clown is good.
the ones who hate sonic are the ones that start running after u use ultimate in the fight they started
True
I normally use Genos and Martial artist, but I don't spam or run, I do close range fighting because it is honestly fun. Sonic players are weak to me, I have found a really great way to counter them is to use an insanely overpowered combo in Genos or Martial Artist where you can keep them from moving, or to emote so they waltz right back to you.
the real counter play to every sonic user/runner: just pick tatsumaki
Nah, if you know to use sonic, then it is opposite. Sonic moveset is hard-counter to Tatsumaki. I know from my experience, i tried both characters hard combos. But i always die to sonic with tatsumaki.
Oh boy how much i love countering flash strike and scatter using blade masters split second counter which literally teleports you to the enemy after countering and then combo away
I enjoyed the video, here is my opinion on using sonic though. If its not exploits, fight to win use as many tactics as possible no matter how underhanded it is if they cry about it just say womp womp because they are hypocritical.
If I see a sonic me and the gang are jumping
but if i don't run is that ok?
@@voidplasma7238NO
@@voidplasma7238sonics still pop their ult the moment they get touched and they also steal kill + its unskilled sooo ur prob still getting jumped
"Im not racist"
@@Funnything-x3m Fax
I’m a sonic sometimes and I neither run nor spam but iPad kids call me runner or spammer cuz they can’t cope they just have a skill issue 😭
As a genos main, i am more aggressive than most people, since normally im always Infront of them.
Me too bro i have 18k kills and i am actually good and knows the techs
As one who is a sonic user, the facts you say are sometimes true lmaoo
i wonder what happens if one sonic user meets another one...... 🤔
0:01 sans Undertale?!
They hate me as a Sonic main cause I run... I run forward. They also hate me because I abuse back dashes and use my skills right after animation so they can't tell if I'm boutta Scatter, honestly I think it's more on being unpredictable rather than being naive.
Bro we have David Attenborough talking about The Strongest Battlegrounds before GTA 6 💀
@BlackVoidofShadows I disliked your opinion
Sonic thinks he's winning over everyone
Me appearing out of nowhere with death blow
Because sonic has the potential of being the most overpowered character in the entire roaster. Yes, even more than genos.
Sonic is the most annoying, op, stupid, easy and cheesy character in the game.
People are just MAD BAD with him.
its more tatsu and genos players who steal and run sonic u can just block whenever you see their hand move.
People that are sonic but are actually skilled and don’t steal kills or run
👇
I won't like, this comment is good
He has moves that are good for mobility and they use that to say that he only runs as an excuse for when they lose to him
Im sonic but i still use m1..
Works for me
Just like sans said " is a beautiful day the birds are singing the flower are blooming monsters like me....."
As a sonic in on days i have to say.
Sonic runs because he can't block/don't have good combo/or can't attack normally (like front dash)
Spam 1234 melts health it’s annoying
I main metal bat and sonic, I'd say the main reason that people hate sonic is just because they don't like the way his main counter works, countering sonic is pressing the F button on your keyboard for like 3 seconds while he wastes his moves. But people are impatient
Gotta love it when you click on a video and the first thing you hear is an undertale referance
Especially on days like these
@@YolkedRBLX kids like you...
@@ClumsyRowlet-np8ii should watch gyat video
Sonic is actually not that bad, I say that at least as a dude who plays sonic here and there, his base moves are (mostly) balanced cuz flash strike and scatter have a mild windup and scatter can be cancelled mid move and it is ridiculously ez to counter, the 2nd ability which I won't even bother trynna spell is just an unreliable and highly punishable glorified downslam and then the shuriken is just a "parry this you filthy casual" to block spammers. Even though the ult IS overpowered but funnily enough, saitama exists and nobody is saying his ult is overpowered are.
Even though, this is from a non-runner point of view still with the fact that there are counters in the game, I heavily doubt explosive shuriken is that big of a deal (even though blade master should be able to counter explosive shuriken in my opinion) but still it is more of a nuisance for actual play if ur doing a combo, like, how tf are you supossed to follow up from explosive shuriken bruh.
In my opinion, you cant *really spam* with sonic due to its lack of block breaks (or moves that do chip damage) because unless your opponent just, doesnt block you cant just throw out moves, the only chars where you can "spam" and maybe win are genos and MAYBE metal bat
The range move can’t be blocked and scatter gives you a free combo
Also what characters are good for beginners and when they encounter teamers
Mained sonic for 6 months, this is the average experience:
Other: *spam blocks cause of sonic moves
Sonic: *spam explosive as it’s the only option to spam blockers
Other: calls sonic a spammer
Sonic: 😑
“It’s a beautiful day outside, birds are singing, flowers are blooming” me having played through undertale multiple times on the genocide route
I can’t be the only one who thought he was going to say “and on days like these sonic users like you… should be burning in hell” in the start. Right?
Was going to do something like that but felt it was a little early although I think that would’ve been good lol unfortunately didn’t think to do it ;(
the 5th one:
I mean im a sweat at sonic wait guys come back i wasnt finished
I'm a newbie and I just play him because I love ninja-esque gameplay and find it very fun. Despite dying a lot, idk if sonic is especially rough on brand spankin new players or what. I'm probably just bad lol. I saw this video by recommendations when looking at a sonic guide!
I think you should have added the fifth category: The chill. The chill are like me: as long as im not attacked i don't bite. And also does friendly emotes.
I switch to sonic when I have a hard time chasing a runner
i give spammers a taste of their own medicine with my own combo
(scatter+4m1+flash strike+turn around+whirlwind kick+ jump+explosive shuriken)
when you are a saitama garou or suiryu it gets very annoying to fight agains the others since u need to approach the enemy and they can use any ability at any time so the only solution is to block and wait to the spammers to come close
If you manage to get a sonic user to hit someone else with twinblade rush you can use atomic slash against them