0:57, if you go frame-by-frame, you see the hitbox suddenly explode to almost three times it's original size. I wondered why I always got hit by that even at a distance.
Honestly, I'm not surprised that even under a video that literally SHOWS the hitboxes being bigger than the actual visuals shown in-game, there are still the "gitgud" goobers trying to tell everyone that they're just bad and that the boss is just fine. Fromsoft Fanboys, nothing new.
my biggest issue is I cant fucking see anything, I dont know when to dodge or what direction to dodge because every god damn attack in phase 2 hits me with the holy flashbang lol.
If you learn the moves well enough, you recognize them before the first swing even fully happens, and you just do it to the rhythm of the combo. It's not that hard man.
Its the sad part to me, 2nd phase is only hidding everything with Miquela hair and non stop particule effect... while phase one is pretty cool in comparason but 2...
Of course and if you add 15 or 20 more hours of practice you can no hit him as well but some have kids, work and life as well 😆 I used to do that but not anymore, still find this somehow annoying, its even worst in ng+/dlc+ but it is what it is, i still can beat him alone so far and enjoy the first phase a lot :)
Where did you see that? The tips of his swords were off screen for most of the combos showcased here but on the occasions you could catch a glimpse of them you couls see the hitbox end precisely at the tip of his sword. Idk I think you're just underestimating his range in general
@@azure4622 Good catch actually, yeah I can see that. Slowing the vid to 0.5 speed it looks like most of his horizontal sweeps have an extended hitbox like that so yeah, OP was right. Guess they really want to incentivise staying close and rolling through his hits not trying to outrange him
I came to find out what the pillars of light were. The radiating circle of pillars after the standard long combo is wild, I would have assumed they were standard pillars of light, not different ones as shown by them being large spheres, instead of the smaller spheres on the ground. That’s the one thing I don’t like. The meteors having “later” hit boxes than the actual graphic isn’t great either
For the pillars of light it really is functionally identical, the only difference is it saves on CPU performance to not have the game compute all hitboxes separately which would be equivalent to like 4 dragons breathing fire at the same time. As for the meteors, it honestly feels like a generous measure to allow late rolls through em cuz you aren't gonna be rolling into the trail of a meteor, you are targeted but its front on the other hand and the game letting you intersect its visual for a frame or two before yoh have registered a roll seems helpful.
Conveniently this also puts you in an easy position to avoid his follow-up combos including the dreaded triple slash. A lot of people who struggle with him seem to not notice that where you position yourself with your dodges after his combos is as important as just dodging them by themselves
i find it very sad that such great character design, arena and ost got wasted with this terribly designed fight, i really hope they nerf phase 2 in the future, because this boss could easily be one of the best they've ever done
The only way to consistely dodge the double slash X is going light weight and dodge horizontally / diagonal. A very few times I got extremelly lucky and dodged it medium weight. This REALLY needs a patch correction
@@welldelara Being behind him at the end of his combos positions you to consistently dodge his triple slash. A lot of the complaints about this boss come from people dodging this boss's combos in isolation just to get face fucked by the next when how you're supposed to play this is to make sure you're positioned correctly *after* his combos to avoid the next ones. Usually this position is behind him to his right (your left). If you dodge his combos and you're not positioned there when he's finished then you need to either forfeit your punish window and move there before he starts his next combo or take the punish but accept that it's probably going to be a trade. People will learn this eventually and he will go down as a beloved boss once the 'wah too hard!' phase passes just like Malenia when people learned that Waterfowl is actually very dodgable even without BHS or light roll
This boss to me feels the same as Malenia, pretty unfair for a normal player. I mean, people can no hit lvl 1 him already, but the amount of skill you need to kill him is a bit too much and not in a good way, at least Malenia is optional. I'm saying this as someone who beat him with no spirits or summons, cragblade Greatsword strenght build. Tank build with greatshields also shit on him if done properly. The biggest problem i have with it are the visual clutter and performance in phase 2, the slash slash into cross combo and some AoE have deceiving sizes in both phases that need some very tight dodging. Its a shame because he could've been remembered like a legendary boss fight like Gael for how cool he is, but he will always be a big wall of frustration for a lot of players.
@@sebastianpijov8708 Never in my life(Which is how long it took me to beat him) i managed to dodge that doble slash into cross slass combo,the 2nd hit is too fast and worst part is it takes tons of my HP,he could just kill me from it alone in a perfect run
You can run or spam roll most of the illusions and they do very little damage anyway. Look for when his actual body comes down and most times he goes into a normal combo he usually does with either side slashes of a slam down, roll those diagonally forward in either direction should dodge most times and give you a second to see what combo he’s gonna do
I did well with no summons more than having them since his health is too damn high, then used Antspur Rapier with the Golden Greatshield - though any high guard greatshield works. Antspur has bleed, greatshield has Barricade, then i would poke him while releasing guard at certain moments yo regain stamina. I didnt have Marikas Braid which would have made it even better, but i used holy defense stuff for the beams. Buffed up with Blackflame and Golden Vow. Wasnt a gaurentee but it worked well and felt as panicked as any fight instead of unbelievably frusterating
You just walk 2 steps behind him 💀💀 it’s so easy to dodge the first phase you can do it with one hand, except the double slash attack that one you have to grab the controller. It’s so Easy to dodge with a fast double weapon you get 6 free hits
This is the most consistent opening in phase 1 for me. After dodging you can run befind him and hit him with a running attack, and a follow-up if your weapons are fast et
It’s almost perfect, you just have to roll towards him and being full-on aggressive all the time in phase 2. It needs a small patch to fix a couple of those hitboxes and we’re good.
@bigyiggaming Okay, what about with medium load? Most players are rocking medium load because of how hard these bosses hit. (Base game was a lot more managable for light load users.)
@@DataDrain02 Not entirely sure, haven't tested it. Surprisingly, I've heard that its dodgeable on heavy load roll, since the roll animation lasts long enough that the second blade goes over you, I think.
0:57, if you go frame-by-frame, you see the hitbox suddenly explode to almost three times it's original size. I wondered why I always got hit by that even at a distance.
Can we take a moment to just bask in this OST? My goodness so amazing
my fav from the dlc it goes hard as shit
Honestly, I'm not surprised that even under a video that literally SHOWS the hitboxes being bigger than the actual visuals shown in-game, there are still the "gitgud" goobers trying to tell everyone that they're just bad and that the boss is just fine.
Fromsoft Fanboys, nothing new.
there's always going to be fanboys who think michael zaki can't make mistake. This boss, especially phase 2 is just a mess
I can do a perfect fume knight fight but this is unironically pure bs
my biggest issue is I cant fucking see anything, I dont know when to dodge or what direction to dodge because every god damn attack in phase 2 hits me with the holy flashbang lol.
If you learn the moves well enough, you recognize them before the first swing even fully happens, and you just do it to the rhythm of the combo. It's not that hard man.
@@ALaz502agree but at the same time I dont want to be fully flashbanged when im playing almost gave me a seizure
Its the sad part to me, 2nd phase is only hidding everything with Miquela hair and non stop particule effect... while phase one is pretty cool in comparason but 2...
@@christopheverdot9075 if you learn the patterns of the combos, the hair obscuring you doesnt matter whatsoever.
Of course and if you add 15 or 20 more hours of practice you can no hit him as well but some have kids, work and life as well 😆 I used to do that but not anymore, still find this somehow annoying, its even worst in ng+/dlc+ but it is what it is, i still can beat him alone so far and enjoy the first phase a lot :)
I KNEW IT. His sword hitboxes do extend farther than the tip of the blade! That's why I keep getting hit even if I'm visually out of range.
Where did you see that? The tips of his swords were off screen for most of the combos showcased here but on the occasions you could catch a glimpse of them you couls see the hitbox end precisely at the tip of his sword. Idk I think you're just underestimating his range in general
@@AR-bj5etmaybe they mean at 0:18?
@@azure4622 Good catch actually, yeah I can see that. Slowing the vid to 0.5 speed it looks like most of his horizontal sweeps have an extended hitbox like that so yeah, OP was right. Guess they really want to incentivise staying close and rolling through his hits not trying to outrange him
@@AR-bj5et I didn't get a notification about this, sorry. Start at 0:29 and go frame-by-frame. You can clearly see the extension there.
This is great. Would like to see the hitboxes rendered in more highlighted color tho.
3:35 that combo is so badass i love it even though it was hard to dodge
I hate 3:40. There's so many hitboxes at the same time you need to be in a specific spot where they overlap or else you guarantee a roll catch.
I learned that combo so goddamn well that on some runs when he did it, I said, "Finally, a fucking break."
the intention behind it is roll side way and don't roll the straight line after he smash down or else you'll get roll catch
@@geisenbergw.5799 Obviously.
The fact people defend the hit boxes at 1:56 tells you how bad they are at this game
I see what you mean, it appears as though the hitbox on the initial swipe is behind the blade. I wonder if this was intentional?
I came to find out what the pillars of light were.
The radiating circle of pillars after the standard long combo is wild, I would have assumed they were standard pillars of light, not different ones as shown by them being large spheres, instead of the smaller spheres on the ground. That’s the one thing I don’t like. The meteors having “later” hit boxes than the actual graphic isn’t great either
You just roll into him 💀 this ain’t cup head where you run past each light beam while platforming
For the pillars of light it really is functionally identical, the only difference is it saves on CPU performance to not have the game compute all hitboxes separately which would be equivalent to like 4 dragons breathing fire at the same time.
As for the meteors, it honestly feels like a generous measure to allow late rolls through em cuz you aren't gonna be rolling into the trail of a meteor, you are targeted but its front on the other hand and the game letting you intersect its visual for a frame or two before yoh have registered a roll seems helpful.
I just realized, can you jump the regular light beams?
Also, going frame-by-frame at 6:10, does his phase 2 stomp not hit next to him?
Seems like you gotta be very agressive and roll diagonally towards him for most of the rolls.
Conveniently this also puts you in an easy position to avoid his follow-up combos including the dreaded triple slash. A lot of people who struggle with him seem to not notice that where you position yourself with your dodges after his combos is as important as just dodging them by themselves
i find it very sad that such great character design, arena and ost got wasted with this terribly designed fight, i really hope they nerf phase 2 in the future, because this boss could easily be one of the best they've ever done
0:28
1:57
4:09
8:40
lmao
Shit more annoying that waterfowl fr
The only way to consistely dodge the double slash X is going light weight and dodge horizontally / diagonal. A very few times I got extremelly lucky and dodged it medium weight. This REALLY needs a patch correction
@@welldelarainteresting I roll it 90% of the time, why would it need a patch correction? I bet you said the same with waterfall dance back in the day
@@welldelara Being behind him at the end of his combos positions you to consistently dodge his triple slash. A lot of the complaints about this boss come from people dodging this boss's combos in isolation just to get face fucked by the next when how you're supposed to play this is to make sure you're positioned correctly *after* his combos to avoid the next ones. Usually this position is behind him to his right (your left). If you dodge his combos and you're not positioned there when he's finished then you need to either forfeit your punish window and move there before he starts his next combo or take the punish but accept that it's probably going to be a trade. People will learn this eventually and he will go down as a beloved boss once the 'wah too hard!' phase passes just like Malenia when people learned that Waterfowl is actually very dodgable even without BHS or light roll
0:28 1-2-X combo
1:57 1-2-X combo
4:09 1-2-X combo (deadly)
5:58 rock slings followed by clone attack bamboozlement
8:28 he be dancing combo
8:40 1-2-X combo (deadly)
This boss to me feels the same as Malenia, pretty unfair for a normal player. I mean, people can no hit lvl 1 him already, but the amount of skill you need to kill him is a bit too much and not in a good way, at least Malenia is optional. I'm saying this as someone who beat him with no spirits or summons, cragblade Greatsword strenght build. Tank build with greatshields also shit on him if done properly.
The biggest problem i have with it are the visual clutter and performance in phase 2, the slash slash into cross combo and some AoE have deceiving sizes in both phases that need some very tight dodging.
Its a shame because he could've been remembered like a legendary boss fight like Gael for how cool he is, but he will always be a big wall of frustration for a lot of players.
Urgh uhh get good get good get good grt gooddgdo!!!
Not as bad as i thought it was but that double slash is atrocious
Which one?
@@sebastianpijov8708 1:56
@@akbersalim9096You can avoid it in phase 1 with proper positioning. The Phase 2 version of the attack though is agony.
@@sebastianpijov8708 Never in my life(Which is how long it took me to beat him) i managed to dodge that doble slash into cross slass combo,the 2nd hit is too fast and worst part is it takes tons of my HP,he could just kill me from it alone in a perfect run
@@sebastianpijov8708 I have beaten him 5 times from ng+0 to ng+4 and still can't dodge it consistently lol
Am i the only one who has the problem with that attack at 5:12 where my eyes cant register the information and find the roll timing to it.
You can run or spam roll most of the illusions and they do very little damage anyway. Look for when his actual body comes down and most times he goes into a normal combo he usually does with either side slashes of a slam down, roll those diagonally forward in either direction should dodge most times and give you a second to see what combo he’s gonna do
Yes, you roll the fifth ilussion
I think I’ll just wait til someone discovers a cheese in 10 years when the game isn’t updated anymore 💀💀💀
There already is. Just summon the golem and heal him.
I did well with no summons more than having them since his health is too damn high, then used Antspur Rapier with the Golden Greatshield - though any high guard greatshield works. Antspur has bleed, greatshield has Barricade, then i would poke him while releasing guard at certain moments yo regain stamina. I didnt have Marikas Braid which would have made it even better, but i used holy defense stuff for the beams. Buffed up with Blackflame and Golden Vow. Wasnt a gaurentee but it worked well and felt as panicked as any fight instead of unbelievably frusterating
spear with bleed+shield
@Saicofake yep he can solo best summon people talking about those two girls being op nope
0:22 must be nerfed this hitbox
You just walk 2 steps behind him 💀💀 it’s so easy to dodge the first phase you can do it with one hand, except the double slash attack that one you have to grab the controller. It’s so Easy to dodge with a fast double weapon you get 6 free hits
@@tengu8560 I came here specifically to check the hitbox - I haven't defeated him yet, I'm sure there are movement issue in this fight.
@@yahia-zak14no there’s none
This is the most consistent opening in phase 1 for me. After dodging you can run befind him and hit him with a running attack, and a follow-up if your weapons are fast et
absolutely horrendous, but now I know the best way to avoid the triple slash is to roll diagonally right
It’s almost perfect, you just have to roll towards him and being full-on aggressive all the time in phase 2. It needs a small patch to fix a couple of those hitboxes and we’re good.
Can I say that the cam should be like this in the normal game?
The worst fight in Elden Ring lads, beat him twice now and I can confirm what a piece of trash.
Cope, bad player
@@eurongreyjoy2 agreed
agreed
1:56 have you guys found a consistent way to dodge this using basic movement, no spell or AoW?
Yes there is a consistent way on light roll, its just very precise. I think I saw Gino doing it.
@bigyiggaming Okay, what about with medium load?
Most players are rocking medium load because of how hard these bosses hit.
(Base game was a lot more managable for light load users.)
@@DataDrain02 Not entirely sure, haven't tested it. Surprisingly, I've heard that its dodgeable on heavy load roll, since the roll animation lasts long enough that the second blade goes over you, I think.
Well well, now I can see in details why this boss is total bs which I cannot beat on rl1
great video of the most stupid fight in the DLC
Yep, this fight is trash confirmed
It’s literally not that hard? Gaius is way worse
@@AkitaSyn Gaius is the worst boss in from history, even worse than bed of chaos
@@edusiqkaonergebecause of the charge? That’s the only inconsistent attack of his I know
@@Zythryl he just feels so terrible to fight and apart from that bs charge that requires you to be lightload im not quite sure why
@@Zythryl Thats the worse, but there are other stuff, if he kills torrent he kills you on the ground too which sucks