Amazing, just got my psvr2, upgraded to premium. These are the sort of games I want on premium, games I prob wouldn't think to buy as I'm not sure I will play them enough (like before your eyes, would never have bought that but did enjoy it).
If you go to the options in Kayak VR: Mirage there is a slider for Night Time something (I can't remember the word), turn it up and the sock over the head goes away. Makes the night lighter but it is much nicer than the sock effect. Not sure if it is a new setting or not? Talking of Mura I purchased The Wizards Dark Times in the sale and was so surprised despite the lower resolution there was no noticeable mura effect anywhere even with all the light sources from flames, torches and magic explosions. Funny how some devs nail it. There is another visual upgrade coming for Dark Times very soon, I am hoping it is DFR. The Exocars devs are the Omega Pilot devs, wasn't that game supposed to be coming to PSVR2 this year? Thanks for the show chaps.
Thanks Jonny. I'll check out the slider in Kayak! Omega Pilot was never on my radar for PSVR2 games (unless I'm just blanking on it currently) but I'll check in with XOCUS and see if it's still coming :D
In regards to Wes’ comments, yes a lot of the VR interactivity in Rescue Mission was gimmicky, but finding hidden bots by moving your head around felt like a core revolution to its collectathon aspect, it is something that could not be replicated by simply putting a flat game in VR since all of Playroom’s hidden Easter eggs relied entirely on the sticks. The hidden bots was definitely an evolution of the platformer genre that went beyond just the increased immersion of VR and gimmicks, all of a sudden collecting things required observing the world with a totally different form of interactivity, it’s why people call it the Mario 64 of VR.
I’m still going to complain on every Astro bot video until they start developing the game for PSVR2! What a weak argument just saying it wasn’t intended to be for VR- it was made for VR! They better intend on developing it for PSVR2 or they the complaints won’t end!
Agreed, this was a no brainer! Like wtf were thinking when making this. How did no one in the meeting room even mention the previous being VR!? Like not a peep
Bombarding the devs for a decision made by the higher ups doesn’t help. They know the community want a VR title. If Sony won’t greenlight one, it won’t get made. Let Asobi cook
It comes down to the fact that vr is just not main stream. Over the last week my two teenagers had several friends over and to my surprise none of them had ever tried VR. They heard of Beat Saber but that was extent of it. It made me realize that not everyone loves and is as passionate for VR as I am. We are all in the minority here. So with Astrobot, my feeling is that they made a game that would appeal to the majority of PS5 gamers. Sadly, it's not psvr2 gamers.
Just got this and it's fun. but I have a question. It says there are two different starting points to the new level but I can't seem to get to the rapids if I start at the first starting point. So it appears to be two separate sub-levels?
I agree with Wes ,not interested at all playing Astro bot on a flat screen.Astro bot on the psvr was great, one of the best vr games ever. Bad decision Sony. Why not give us both versions so we can all enjoy it. 👍 Without parole
WMG is cool, can't wait to see the revamped Cherry Blossom dropping Zen Bombs. Also, I really hope Wings has a free flight mode, so you can just fly, land, etc.
Sure I’m disappointed Astrobot isn’t in VR, that seems such a missed opportunity. And regarding Mura I have to agree Kayak is pretty much the only game I own where it’s really really noticeable. It ruins the dark stages such as Antarctica with the northern lights as you say Bryan it’s like I’m looking through a sock! I’d really love to understand how it’s possible we have super dark games like Maddison that has no MURA yet night in Kayak it’s so so obvious! It gives me hope it’s down to the devs, but understanding the technical reason why would help developers and us :)
@6:24 So, ironically, I really do care about Astro Bot getting VR support. Honestly I want all 3D games on PlayStation to have a VR mode by default. I know its not realistic, because of different game engines and the varying nature of the camera in flat-games, but if it were and option to at least be able to try it in VR if it can achieve a good frame rate like with Dreams, that would be the best scenario I’d hope for. But you’re right, it will likely be a looooong time before I’ve saved up for PSVR2 and PS5.
Kayak game rapids has become 1st time in a while I got severe motion sickness. Partly cause I sucked at steering but the spinning caused feeling sick to my stomach. Kinda funny. Use a small fan and have someone splash water in front of fan created like being in a weird surreal dream...
Btw I got premium as I just got my psvr2. It also has humanity (pretty sure they don't count that as one of the vr games) which I love. Wanted to buy new ratchet & crank so getting that free pretty much paid for my 6mths of upgrade.
The static add-on puzzles in Puzzling places-VR can go for $5 to 6 bucks, so this Kayak addon is well worth it. I rather buy these epic scenic awesome realistic river trails then static puzzles of other games. Maybe Kayak Devs can finish the other updates if this add-on helps the Dev see people are still interested in their fledgling GREAT & fun game. :)
I think if Astrobot Rescue Mission was on psvr2 or there was more first party support in general, VR gamers wouldn't be so disappointed about the lack of psvr2 support for Astrobot. Edit: I would LOVE Road Rash VR. And lazy river mode with friends would be great for Kayak VR.
Wes, please DO somehow get Asobi to play on PC a plaformer in VR.. Psvr2 doesnt always have to be ground up like they describe. Id be happy with as little as a 3d cinema mode too! Though most would want floating camera like those PCVR mods have shown with Crash 4
Got a question, got my psvr2 last week but don't seem to have much issue with bluryness (helps that my large head means my dpi has to be set to max). I do notice a jelly like movement of textures when I move my head though. Am I doing something wrong? Got a psvr and quest 2 and never seen this before. Really noticed it on the upgrade of dark matter 1.
Cheers, wrote this while drunk and watching the new episode of dark matter (that wasn't what was causing the vr issues). I will give those changes a go. I have spot lights, do you think they cause an issue too?
I think the real answer is Sony doesn’t want their teams adding VR modes, that’s been obvious for a while now. While what this guy says isn’t a lie, it is a diversion/excuse for the larger truth.
@@SB-ln6kb Making the game hybrid doesn't hold it back from being the best it can be, more resources go into accessibility settings than basic VR modes (which is probably another mandate). You can't convince me that serves more of a commercial benefit than VR. Yes I agree Sony studios do get a luxury others don't, but Sony still won't let them do VR regardless of how much they want to, Spiderman 2 for sure would've had a bonus webslinging VR mode (no combat/missions, just swinging in the city) cause Insomniac loved developing VR and were big advocates for it, they had no problems gambling on VR before getting aquired, investments lost were always subsidized. Asobi wasn't much different, and I'm pretty sure London studio would've preferred doing VR over flat live service, they may still even be here if they got to make a PSVR2 launch title that went big. If the priority was bottom line money, they would do a lot better with low effort/quality projects with high revenue like Candy Crush than constantly going for prestige, even a service game like Concord has to have the storytelling and quality people expect from a PlayStation game when all that does is reduce income.
Kayak vr whitewater was very disappointing (Hardly any whitewater just slightly small bumps)compared to the kayak game that I saw a few weeks ago on quest. Spent 20 mins on it and that was enough, can't see myself going back anytime soon. No Mura for me never noticed it in any game, not all psvr2 lenses are the same maybe?
Night exposure setting turned up a bit helps a lot with night mura, but as I've owned 3 PSVR2 units I can confirm my first 2 were much worse than my latest (bought in the sale), as was the sweet spot (better and felt clearer overall vs the 2 I had back at launch even though they had similar production dates... luck of the draw)
Ha, the conspiracy people lost their shit about this a couple months back. You're late to the game JJ but it's still fun to see your reaction nonetheless lol :D
JJ that is a shallow and uneducated surface level take that you have commented here. Psvr2 is thriving and healthy considering other companies like LG are abandoning quest pro2 development
No astrobot on psvr2 was so disappointing… ive never owned a psvr1 so i was hoping this upcoming astrobot game was a sequel to rescue mission or rescue mission remake… it looks like such an amazing game that ill just never get to experience smh
@@Alex_Logan22 i dont want a psvr1 when i have a psvr2. I would of maybe bought it if it didnt have so many wires and i really hate the outdated controllers you use and the need for an external camera. Those are the same reasons that turned me off from buying it when it first launched
@@Alex_Logan22 the dualshock 4 right? Or am I wrong on that? Im glad it didnt, but i couldnt justify a psvr1 for one game lol even if that game is amazing 😭
I’d imagine if the DualSense wasn’t tracked one-to-one in a VR version of Astro Bot, the PS VR2 haters would jump in on that as more reasons why PS VR2 sucks. I wouldn’t care if it wasn’t one-to-one though.
How could the dev of Astro Bot say a VR hybrid is impossible because it's not first person with a straight face?... Either he knows he's lying or he's been so deeply entrenched in the development of this game that he's completely unaware what modders have ben doing on PC for FREE over the years. SMH...
Astro bot looks great but without vr support I’m not paying full price I’ll wait for a sale. And to be completely honest vr is what gave the game its edge over Mario type platformers if this isn’t Vr I might pass.
Team Aspbi obviously didn’t play their own Astrobot Rescue Mission. To me that’s just total horse shit and a cover for whatever the real reason is. I think Sony decided they weren’t going to budget for VR features outside of a flat developed game.
Kayak VR is going to be on PS Premium on June 18th if you don't own it yet. No DLC though.
Amazing, just got my psvr2, upgraded to premium.
These are the sort of games I want on premium, games I prob wouldn't think to buy as I'm not sure I will play them enough (like before your eyes, would never have bought that but did enjoy it).
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If you go to the options in Kayak VR: Mirage there is a slider for Night Time something (I can't remember the word), turn it up and the sock over the head goes away. Makes the night lighter but it is much nicer than the sock effect. Not sure if it is a new setting or not?
Talking of Mura I purchased The Wizards Dark Times in the sale and was so surprised despite the lower resolution there was no noticeable mura effect anywhere even with all the light sources from flames, torches and magic explosions. Funny how some devs nail it. There is another visual upgrade coming for Dark Times very soon, I am hoping it is DFR.
The Exocars devs are the Omega Pilot devs, wasn't that game supposed to be coming to PSVR2 this year?
Thanks for the show chaps.
Thanks Jonny. I'll check out the slider in Kayak!
Omega Pilot was never on my radar for PSVR2 games (unless I'm just blanking on it currently) but I'll check in with XOCUS and see if it's still coming :D
@@WithoutParole Yeah... looks much better here with the night exposure turned up a few notches... and I generally detest MURA.
In regards to Wes’ comments, yes a lot of the VR interactivity in Rescue Mission was gimmicky, but finding hidden bots by moving your head around felt like a core revolution to its collectathon aspect, it is something that could not be replicated by simply putting a flat game in VR since all of Playroom’s hidden Easter eggs relied entirely on the sticks. The hidden bots was definitely an evolution of the platformer genre that went beyond just the increased immersion of VR and gimmicks, all of a sudden collecting things required observing the world with a totally different form of interactivity, it’s why people call it the Mario 64 of VR.
Thanks guys, breakfast is so much better with you , you make Coco-Pops taste even better and crackle louder 😊.
I’m still going to complain on every Astro bot video until they start developing the game for PSVR2! What a weak argument just saying it wasn’t intended to be for VR- it was made for VR! They better intend on developing it for PSVR2 or they the complaints won’t end!
Agreed, this was a no brainer! Like wtf were thinking when making this. How did no one in the meeting room even mention the previous being VR!? Like not a peep
We’ll get an Xbox game with a VR mode first at this rate.
Bombarding the devs for a decision made by the higher ups doesn’t help. They know the community want a VR title. If Sony won’t greenlight one, it won’t get made.
Let Asobi cook
@@carlgriffThe devs can pass on the message.
It comes down to the fact that vr is just not main stream. Over the last week my two teenagers had several friends over and to my surprise none of them had ever tried VR. They heard of Beat Saber but that was extent of it. It made me realize that not everyone loves and is as passionate for VR as I am. We are all in the minority here. So with Astrobot, my feeling is that they made a game that would appeal to the majority of PS5 gamers. Sadly, it's not psvr2 gamers.
Just got this and it's fun. but I have a question. It says there are two different starting points to the new level but I can't seem to get to the rapids if I start at the first starting point. So it appears to be two separate sub-levels?
The rapids lead down into the town starting point and you can continue on from there
Such an awesome Clip of the week, definitely made my day 😂 thanks @igmi
And the rest of the show was also awesome, thanks guys😻
I can't wait for Aces of Thunder, hopefully some great multiplayer action.😊
Is that game online only? I'm hoping it's not just online.
@@stefandinu6389Clearly. It's a War Thunder game.
@@stefandinu6389🙏
I agree with Wes ,not interested at all playing Astro bot on a flat screen.Astro bot on the psvr was great, one of the best vr games ever. Bad decision Sony. Why not give us both versions so we can all enjoy it. 👍 Without parole
The fact that it wasn't even thought of for VR is even worse news for psvr2. I don't care how good it is no VR no BUY!
Sony really pulled a PSVita on the PSVR2. I think first party support is officially over for the platform
You forgot a space between 2 timestamps in the description, keep up the amazing work and don't worry about the name change
FIXED! Thank you! :D
If you dislike mura in Kayak VR night scenes, change the in-game gamma settings
Yessir - we got quite a few comments mentioning that! Thank you, looking forward to messing with it :D
WMG is cool, can't wait to see the revamped Cherry Blossom dropping Zen Bombs. Also, I really hope Wings has a free flight mode, so you can just fly, land, etc.
Sure I’m disappointed Astrobot isn’t in VR, that seems such a missed opportunity. And regarding Mura I have to agree Kayak is pretty much the only game I own where it’s really really noticeable. It ruins the dark stages such as Antarctica with the northern lights as you say Bryan it’s like I’m looking through a sock! I’d really love to understand how it’s possible we have super dark games like Maddison that has no MURA yet night in Kayak it’s so so obvious! It gives me hope it’s down to the devs, but understanding the technical reason why would help developers and us :)
Good episode fellas
@6:24 So, ironically, I really do care about Astro Bot getting VR support. Honestly I want all 3D games on PlayStation to have a VR mode by default. I know its not realistic, because of different game engines and the varying nature of the camera in flat-games, but if it were and option to at least be able to try it in VR if it can achieve a good frame rate like with Dreams, that would be the best scenario I’d hope for.
But you’re right, it will likely be a looooong time before I’ve saved up for PSVR2 and PS5.
Kayak game rapids has become 1st time in a while I got severe motion sickness. Partly cause I sucked at steering but the spinning caused feeling sick to my stomach. Kinda funny. Use a small fan and have someone splash water in front of fan created like being in a weird surreal dream...
Hmmmmmm, Astrobot 2 sounds like a perfect first game for Flat 2 VR 😊
Hopefy exo get the dust trails looking great, smoke seems to be a big challenge for vr games.
Btw I got premium as I just got my psvr2.
It also has humanity (pretty sure they don't count that as one of the vr games) which I love.
Wanted to buy new ratchet & crank so getting that free pretty much paid for my 6mths of upgrade.
Heard us loud and clear In The US in Uk Ireland Everywhere.
I hope, as next best thing, the developers can have the Ps4 PSVR1 version of Astro Bot to PSVR2
Imagine giving ironman vr the wanderer remake treatment
The static add-on puzzles in Puzzling places-VR can go for $5 to 6 bucks, so this Kayak addon is well worth it. I rather buy these epic scenic awesome realistic river trails then static puzzles of other games. Maybe Kayak Devs can finish the other updates if this add-on helps the Dev see people are still interested in their fledgling GREAT & fun game. :)
I think if Astrobot Rescue Mission was on psvr2 or there was more first party support in general, VR gamers wouldn't be so disappointed about the lack of psvr2 support for Astrobot.
Edit:
I would LOVE Road Rash VR. And lazy river mode with friends would be great for Kayak VR.
According to the Kayak devs it has never used reprojection. It’s always been 90hz native.
@@SB-ln6kb sir, this is a Wendy’s
Astro bot 2 was a completely missed opportunity 😢
Gamers are crying out for photorealism, they should be happy with Kayak VR. 😸
Or they finally learned gameplay is king.
Wes, please DO somehow get Asobi to play on PC a plaformer in VR..
Psvr2 doesnt always have to be ground up like they describe.
Id be happy with as little as a 3d cinema mode too! Though most would want floating camera like those PCVR mods have shown with Crash 4
Got a question, got my psvr2 last week but don't seem to have much issue with bluryness (helps that my large head means my dpi has to be set to max).
I do notice a jelly like movement of textures when I move my head though. Am I doing something wrong?
Got a psvr and quest 2 and never seen this before.
Really noticed it on the upgrade of dark matter 1.
Cheers, wrote this while drunk and watching the new episode of dark matter (that wasn't what was causing the vr issues).
I will give those changes a go.
I have spot lights, do you think they cause an issue too?
I cant wait till the devs finish and move on from kayak VR
AsmongoldTV is a gud YT name because his content is all about Television and VCR repair. Synergy
I think the real answer is Sony doesn’t want their teams adding VR modes, that’s been obvious for a while now. While what this guy says isn’t a lie, it is a diversion/excuse for the larger truth.
@@SB-ln6kb
Making the game hybrid doesn't hold it back from being the best it can be, more resources go into accessibility settings than basic VR modes (which is probably another mandate). You can't convince me that serves more of a commercial benefit than VR. Yes I agree Sony studios do get a luxury others don't, but Sony still won't let them do VR regardless of how much they want to, Spiderman 2 for sure would've had a bonus webslinging VR mode (no combat/missions, just swinging in the city) cause Insomniac loved developing VR and were big advocates for it, they had no problems gambling on VR before getting aquired, investments lost were always subsidized. Asobi wasn't much different, and I'm pretty sure London studio would've preferred doing VR over flat live service, they may still even be here if they got to make a PSVR2 launch title that went big.
If the priority was bottom line money, they would do a lot better with low effort/quality projects with high revenue like Candy Crush than constantly going for prestige, even a service game like Concord has to have the storytelling and quality people expect from a PlayStation game when all that does is reduce income.
Kayak vr whitewater was very disappointing (Hardly any whitewater just slightly small bumps)compared to the kayak game that I saw a few weeks ago on quest. Spent 20 mins on it and that was enough, can't see myself going back anytime soon. No Mura for me never noticed it in any game, not all psvr2 lenses are the same maybe?
What Kayak game on Quest or do you mean Whitewater VR: Extreme Kayaking Adventure on PC VR?
Night exposure setting turned up a bit helps a lot with night mura, but as I've owned 3 PSVR2 units I can confirm my first 2 were much worse than my latest (bought in the sale), as was the sweet spot (better and felt clearer overall vs the 2 I had back at launch even though they had similar production dates... luck of the draw)
@@JonnyJamesC Not sure it was on another vr channel a few weeks ago but looked way more like white water.
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Never planned have astro bot on psvr 2 ever I said that 2 weeks ago..He making Excuses for Why They didn't like can't and all that.
Can't 100% Wrong They didn't want too long before Psvr even came Out.
Jammy loved it kayak☺☺
Even these guys took psvr2 out of their title. That headset definitely on the way out.
Ha, the conspiracy people lost their shit about this a couple months back. You're late to the game JJ but it's still fun to see your reaction nonetheless lol :D
JJ that is a shallow and uneducated surface level take that you have commented here. Psvr2 is thriving and healthy considering other companies like LG are abandoning quest pro2 development
No astrobot on psvr2 was so disappointing… ive never owned a psvr1 so i was hoping this upcoming astrobot game was a sequel to rescue mission or rescue mission remake… it looks like such an amazing game that ill just never get to experience smh
I got a refurbished PSVR1 for like a hundred dollars not too long ago.
@@Alex_Logan22 i dont want a psvr1 when i have a psvr2. I would of maybe bought it if it didnt have so many wires and i really hate the outdated controllers you use and the need for an external camera. Those are the same reasons that turned me off from buying it when it first launched
@@bxile730
Fair enough, but just FYI Astro didn't use the Move controllers.
@@Alex_Logan22 the dualshock 4 right? Or am I wrong on that? Im glad it didnt, but i couldnt justify a psvr1 for one game lol even if that game is amazing 😭
@@bxile730
Correct
I’d imagine if the DualSense wasn’t tracked one-to-one in a VR version of Astro Bot, the PS VR2 haters would jump in on that as more reasons why PS VR2 sucks. I wouldn’t care if it wasn’t one-to-one though.
The decision to make Astro bot non Vr is from Sony!
They are the gravedigger of there own Vr System...😅
How could the dev of Astro Bot say a VR hybrid is impossible because it's not first person with a straight face?... Either he knows he's lying or he's been so deeply entrenched in the development of this game that he's completely unaware what modders have ben doing on PC for FREE over the years. SMH...
Astro bot looks great but without vr support I’m not paying full price I’ll wait for a sale. And to be completely honest vr is what gave the game its edge over Mario type platformers if this isn’t Vr I might pass.
Team Aspbi obviously didn’t play their own Astrobot Rescue Mission. To me that’s just total horse shit and a cover for whatever the real reason is.
I think Sony decided they weren’t going to budget for VR features outside of a flat developed game.
Playstation fucken sucks, where's riven remastered. Quest doesn't even have to pay for exclusives rights I bet.