great topic!!! would love to see more "production tips" videos from you (general tactics and approaches). I feel like your background in production as well as your status as an educator would really allow you to create some really great content. Ok, I guess i started writing this comment too soon into viewing, because it sounds like this is a new series! Awesome!!
Hi Aaron, that's definitely the point of this series. Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. Totally open to ideas and this series will have some production based things and even a bit of music theory potentially in the future.
Take the logic output (3rd middle channel) and control decay of the left voice ...invert the same logic output and slightly control the decay of the right voice ...results? Much more organic
Yeah of course, modulating the voices leads to a whole load of more interesting end results. I just want really simple sounds and patching here to demonstrate the core of the video.
Nice video, patch and melodies but this isn't strictly Boolean logic. Analogue logic is slightly different to Boolean logic which operates on the principle of on/off conditions such as AND, OR XOR and their inversions. Analogue logic will return the peak and trough of mixed variable signals. Boolean logic is brilliant for rhythms and switching, analogue logic is great for voltage processing as you have elegantly demonstrated here. :)
I think one of the biggest confusions that I may have just resolved for myself is: Instruo's "Eas" module is a GATE logic module. As in, "Gates Only." Whereas this ANA module or e.g. my WMD "OSD" module is a logic module that's nonbinary lol. And this type is able to output curves e.g. "whichever curve is currently highest wins" rather than just binary on-off logic for whichever gates are currently open. I think I did not realize that this was confusing me until just now, actually. But something suddenly makes more sense. There are these two types of "logic modules", not just one. EDIT: read a ton of comments, now I understand the Eas is a "Boolean" logic module. okie doke cool
Logic is definitely confusing all around at first, it's not found on other gear or much software so it's a totally new concept to all of us getting into this. Sounds like you're working through it and finding the differences with things though.
Ben nice work on this, I am loving the series! One clarification though, this is analog logic rather than Boolean logic which has two discreet states (on or off). Also, I have an idea for something that might well fit into this series: ever since seeing the Tip Top Fold Processor in the shop I've been dreaming of using the subdivide output with a slow lfo as a sequencer, only to have my hopes dashed by seeing in your demo of it that it's outputs are AC coupled. The idea might still make for a neat video cobbled together from some other modules: Slow clocked tri/sine lfo (2 or 4 bars) > wave folder > clock divider > 4 outputs into a summing VCA > pitch cv of oscillator. The VCA is used to control the amount each channel adds to the pitch when high. Instant repeating phrases that are rhythmically related to the clock and can be easily nudged in any direction.
I was aware of that before taking this public but forgot to change the title, that's now adjusted thanks. I often upload well before things go public as I have such a mad schedule for getting videos out there. "in the shop" which shop do you work in? I have videos lined up for layer LFOs to create new patterns, clocking / analogue sync resetting them you get some nice evolving patterns. Not though to try with the folder first. I'll give it a shot and see.
I'm not sure but, jumpers could probably be placed across any input and output capacitors of the Fold Processor allowing it to pass slowly changing wave forms like those from a LFO. Something like that should be fairly easy to do by just soldering small wires right across the pins of each input and output capacitor. I don't know if shorting the in and output caps would mess with where the output waveform will want to sit in terms of 10V+ and 10V-. This all probably sounds way more complicated than it really is.
@@DivKid here's how I'm it currently approaching it without a wave folder, just clocking my tempi with grids and using the gate outs of tempi into my vca mixer and out to my Atlantis ua-cam.com/video/bileDJdxxio/v-deo.html
Not everything is quantised or through a quantizer per say. A lot of it is sequences that are quantised already. But when I want a specific quantizer I use the ADDAC 207.
Hey there, Great vids as always. Have you any experience with the 4MS Quad Clock Distributer with Expander? The clock part is simple enough but I am not getting what the expander is great for. Really not any info online either. Maybe a small future vid someday? Cheers!
DivKidVideo I don't know any particular topic, so many are possible. Math (maths?) is in music in so many ways. If Numberphile was interested in some kind of collaboration maybe they could pair you with one of the mathematicians that normally appear on the shows. Any kind of crossover would be cool. I would probably particularly enjoy something about fractals and music (I don't really know what a "fractals in music" video might cover but, would be amazed to find out!). Relationships of notes and chord progressions and why they work could be a topic, an explanation of euclidean drum patterns (are they fractal?), or the relations between notes in different types of scales might be some topics and there are probably so many others (even boolean stuff?).
Totally agree that cross over and collaboration is great to see. Always nice when it's people from very different backgrounds/channels too. I'll have a think for things that reach out a bit further.
@@DivKid bump 💜. I’d love to see videos exploring universal mathematic within the natural world, music and modular synthesis - por favour and thanks for the magical content 😇 🙏 ♾. ps. I bout ANA because of this video and Ochd just arrived too 🔯
Sorry if I missed this, but I am in search of good dual (or more) quantizer. I have heard you say "this is going into a quantizer" in many of your videos, but it is always offscreen. Which one do you use, or do you have a recommendation?
I use the ADDAC 207. There's also the Ornament & Crime module that can do four channels. I'd go to Modular Grid and set function to be 'quantizer' and see what comes up.
DivKidVideo thank you, sir, I’ve had my eyes on ornament and crime. Might have to pull the trigger 🤔 I’ll check out modular grid, thanks for the quick reply.
I don't know if this has been covered before, and i know this is a tricky question since everyone's goal going into modular can be quite different, but i think it would be nice to make a video about like the minimum requirement modules to have a standalone modular system make some sound. of course it takes a vco, but im more interested in more functional or utility modules since i dont know what's out there and it's a learning process.. just like a minimum viable setup i guess? or like the cheapest you can spend to have something intersting going in a standalone setup.... thanks
what did you end up doing? Looking back years later I think my answer would be "Behringer Crave," since honestly my answer is "Moog Mother 32," but the Crave is essentially the same with less style (imo) for less cash. A used M32 would also serve well. And then spend the extra on a good used delay or reverb pedal with hands-on knobs. But I assume semimodular was not part of the question at the time you asked it?
You could use something like Branches from Mutable Instruments. Send your sequence through that with one output going to your destination and then the other output is ignored. This would drop steps at random with adjustable probability.
@@wattsofnoise yah that'd work i reckon. perhaps some envelope on the volume change so it's not cutting out apruptly, u know perhaps you get clicking otherwise...
Bring back this series! So much potential 😜
The series will return, got lots of ideas noted down.
great topic!!! would love to see more "production tips" videos from you (general tactics and approaches). I feel like your background in production as well as your status as an educator would really allow you to create some really great content. Ok, I guess i started writing this comment too soon into viewing, because it sounds like this is a new series! Awesome!!
Hi Aaron, that's definitely the point of this series. Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. Totally open to ideas and this series will have some production based things and even a bit of music theory potentially in the future.
ANA is such a rad module. I’ve been using it as a modulation hub creating complex feedback modulation systems. Looking forward to ANA 2.
HI Mike, is ANA 2 coming? Cool to think what Eli is doing with it.
Take the logic output (3rd middle channel) and control decay of the left voice ...invert the same logic output and slightly control the decay of the right voice ...results? Much more organic
Yeah of course, modulating the voices leads to a whole load of more interesting end results. I just want really simple sounds and patching here to demonstrate the core of the video.
Nice video, patch and melodies but this isn't strictly Boolean logic. Analogue logic is slightly different to Boolean logic which operates on the principle of on/off conditions such as AND, OR XOR and their inversions. Analogue logic will return the peak and trough of mixed variable signals. Boolean logic is brilliant for rhythms and switching, analogue logic is great for voltage processing as you have elegantly demonstrated here. :)
Hi Sven, I know poor wording in the title going a little clickbait there! :)
Stop Boolean DivKid! He's a good man.
haha
@@SkullDraizer lol! :D
Ok had a go at recreating this with what I’ve got. Had O_C quartermain doing 2 sequencers into a disting in max/min mode (A4). Nice idea!
Nice one for trying it and applying it to what you have. I can imagine some great results from those modules.
Awesome series so far. Any chance of continuing this?
Great job!
cheers
Yes to this series! 😄
cheers
I think one of the biggest confusions that I may have just resolved for myself is: Instruo's "Eas" module is a GATE logic module. As in, "Gates Only." Whereas this ANA module or e.g. my WMD "OSD" module is a logic module that's nonbinary lol. And this type is able to output curves e.g. "whichever curve is currently highest wins" rather than just binary on-off logic for whichever gates are currently open.
I think I did not realize that this was confusing me until just now, actually. But something suddenly makes more sense. There are these two types of "logic modules", not just one.
EDIT: read a ton of comments, now I understand the Eas is a "Boolean" logic module. okie doke cool
Logic is definitely confusing all around at first, it's not found on other gear or much software so it's a totally new concept to all of us getting into this. Sounds like you're working through it and finding the differences with things though.
Ben nice work on this, I am loving the series! One clarification though, this is analog logic rather than Boolean logic which has two discreet states (on or off). Also, I have an idea for something that might well fit into this series: ever since seeing the Tip Top Fold Processor in the shop I've been dreaming of using the subdivide output with a slow lfo as a sequencer, only to have my hopes dashed by seeing in your demo of it that it's outputs are AC coupled. The idea might still make for a neat video cobbled together from some other modules: Slow clocked tri/sine lfo (2 or 4 bars) > wave folder > clock divider > 4 outputs into a summing VCA > pitch cv of oscillator. The VCA is used to control the amount each channel adds to the pitch when high. Instant repeating phrases that are rhythmically related to the clock and can be easily nudged in any direction.
I was aware of that before taking this public but forgot to change the title, that's now adjusted thanks. I often upload well before things go public as I have such a mad schedule for getting videos out there. "in the shop" which shop do you work in? I have videos lined up for layer LFOs to create new patterns, clocking / analogue sync resetting them you get some nice evolving patterns. Not though to try with the folder first. I'll give it a shot and see.
@@DivKid Sorry Ben, I meant Control Voltage in Portland OR, but I'm just a customer there rather than an employee.
I'm not sure but, jumpers could probably be placed across any input and output capacitors of the Fold Processor allowing it to pass slowly changing wave forms like those from a LFO. Something like that should be fairly easy to do by just soldering small wires right across the pins of each input and output capacitor. I don't know if shorting the in and output caps would mess with where the output waveform will want to sit in terms of 10V+ and 10V-. This all probably sounds way more complicated than it really is.
ah ok cool, seems like a good place. Never been to Portland but would love to visit.
@@DivKid here's how I'm it currently approaching it without a wave folder, just clocking my tempi with grids and using the gate outs of tempi into my vca mixer and out to my Atlantis ua-cam.com/video/bileDJdxxio/v-deo.html
Box logic please a demo of this sort of logic.
Can you do a video about using an XOR as ring modulation? I’ve never totally understood why that works.
Possibly in the distant future as I have a lot of videos lined up but I'll take note of it.
Thanks for doing this.. I know you quantize pretty much everything you demo, care to talk a little bit about what you use specifically?
Not everything is quantised or through a quantizer per say. A lot of it is sequences that are quantised already. But when I want a specific quantizer I use the ADDAC 207.
Hey there, Great vids as always. Have you any experience with the 4MS Quad Clock Distributer with Expander? The clock part is simple enough but I am not getting what the expander is great for. Really not any info online either. Maybe a small future vid someday? Cheers!
Sounding lovely as always. Which reverb are you using, is it a Euro one?
A collaboration with something like the numberphile channel would be cool if you could do that @DivKidVideo.
just looking at the channel, could be some interesting mathematical things to work around. What did you have in mind?
DivKidVideo I don't know any particular topic, so many are possible. Math (maths?) is in music in so many ways. If Numberphile was interested in some kind of collaboration maybe they could pair you with one of the mathematicians that normally appear on the shows. Any kind of crossover would be cool. I would probably particularly enjoy something about fractals and music (I don't really know what a "fractals in music" video might cover but, would be amazed to find out!). Relationships of notes and chord progressions and why they work could be a topic, an explanation of euclidean drum patterns (are they fractal?), or the relations between notes in different types of scales might be some topics and there are probably so many others (even boolean stuff?).
Totally agree that cross over and collaboration is great to see. Always nice when it's people from very different backgrounds/channels too. I'll have a think for things that reach out a bit further.
@@DivKid bump 💜. I’d love to see videos exploring universal mathematic within the natural world, music and modular synthesis - por favour and thanks for the magical content 😇 🙏 ♾.
ps. I bout ANA because of this video and Ochd just arrived too 🔯
Lovely. Is Ana doing the quantization or is that going through something else?
No the ADDAC 207 is quantising everything. ANA just gives us the voltages (that I then quantise in the 207) to make up that third harmony line.
Sounds great! Which quantizer did you use on this?
ADDAC 207, 3 channels, the left and right random melodies and the ANA generated central harmony line.
Sorry if I missed this, but I am in search of good dual (or more) quantizer. I have heard you say "this is going into a quantizer" in many of your videos, but it is always offscreen. Which one do you use, or do you have a recommendation?
I use the ADDAC 207. There's also the Ornament & Crime module that can do four channels. I'd go to Modular Grid and set function to be 'quantizer' and see what comes up.
DivKidVideo thank you, sir, I’ve had my eyes on ornament and crime. Might have to pull the trigger 🤔 I’ll check out modular grid, thanks for the quick reply.
Hope you find something that will fit your set up nicely.
I don't know if this has been covered before, and i know this is a tricky question since everyone's goal going into modular can be quite different, but i think it would be nice to make a video about like the minimum requirement modules to have a standalone modular system make some sound. of course it takes a vco, but im more interested in more functional or utility modules since i dont know what's out there and it's a learning process.. just like a minimum viable setup i guess?
or like the cheapest you can spend to have something intersting going in a standalone setup....
thanks
what did you end up doing? Looking back years later I think my answer would be "Behringer Crave," since honestly my answer is "Moog Mother 32," but the Crave is essentially the same with less style (imo) for less cash. A used M32 would also serve well. And then spend the extra on a good used delay or reverb pedal with hands-on knobs. But I assume semimodular was not part of the question at the time you asked it?
nice vdeo, thx!
is there an easy way to create some rythmic variation by muting random steps?
You could use something like Branches from Mutable Instruments. Send your sequence through that with one output going to your destination and then the other output is ignored. This would drop steps at random with adjustable probability.
@@wattsofnoise yah that'd work i reckon. perhaps some envelope on the volume change so it's not cutting out apruptly, u know perhaps you get clicking otherwise...
Yeah that would work. I'd change the clock to gate sequencer, boolean logic mixing clocks/gates etc or Branches is a great example too.
@@DivKid hey, thx for weighing in! (;
Use the gate sequence to clock a S+H and use the output to gate your envelope.