Why Christian music fails: Exposing the Dark Side of the Christian Music Industry | SHOCKING TRUTH
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Reacting to comments: Exposing the Dark Side of the Christian Music Industry | SHOCKING TRUTH
My original video ( • Exposing the Dark Side... ) sparked a lot of conversation and questions. Hoping to fill in some gaps and bring more clarity to the controversy around the topics of the Christian music industry, the mainstream/secular industry and everything in between.
0:49 Why this video is important
2:05 Wanting money vs. Loving money
6:23 Authenticity and the Christian music industry
9:20 S*x, The Bible and Christian Music
12:45 Ministry vs. Industry
16:08 What is secular music? Is it wrong?
18:23 Do I want to be a mainstream or Christian artist?
20:43 Is Christian music any good?
21:54 Weirdest Comment Award goes to…
22:34 Apostle Paul modelled Business & Ministry
28:27 Putting limits on God
29:08 “Christian” artists vs. Other “Christian” Professionals
31:11 Should Christians get awards?
34:56 Most Ignorant Comment Award goes to…
36:23 In summary
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spot on, you cannot mix the gospel with money without serious problems.
@@johnmargetts-b1c Not impossible, just really REALLY difficult to do properly.
Christians work in all fields. Are we only supposed to work for Christian companies to be truly Christian? Why are the arts different?
This is wisdom, sir! The key is being distinct wherever God has placed us!
I can relate to you as far as being completely misunderstood. Just had a thought that most of the Christian labels are underneath the umbrella of bigger mainstream labels, and thus the companies are going to want to maximize their reach, their profit. Thats all i see- corporatization. Very few people understand the Biblical worldview. Thank you for your authenticity ❤ Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things.
Amen! For sure, developing a Biblical worldview is complex, difficult, uncomfortable at times, and a lifelong journey.....but it's also very nourishing and fulfilling. It's much easier to pick your fav verses and settle there. Hence why many don't try building a robust Biblical worldview. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Please sub + hit the bell if you haven't. Appreciate you!
I'm an older Christian woman. So proud of you and the stance you take. You could someday consider theology school to become a pastor. I believe God will use you in ways you never thought of. God bless.
Thank you so much for your kind words. God Bless!
Thanks for the Video. Nice to hear a believer who thinks through their faith and its implications for their life. I admire your integrity. God bless
Thank you, the Lord’s grace.
Praise to the Christian artist in the “secular” world. Let the light shine.
The more clueless u become the more u try make it seem like u woke
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I totally relate with all you said in the part 1 of this video.
I also find it uncomfortable that Christian's emotions and devotions are profited off from.
Like a lot of things don't just make sense... We just have to accept it or get rejected
Thanks for tuning in.
Thank You for part 2 and the clarification. Great explanation. Keep moving forward. We need to undo years of miseducation.
I just found your channel, and I so appreciate what you have to say about the Christian music industry, and music in general. I've been actively seeking out better music from a Christian worldview that's not necessarily worship music.
So glad you found it helpful. Hope you enjoy this music playlist; ua-cam.com/video/A-w6qfuevIM/v-deo.html
I would recommend the group CityAlight for "modern" theologically rich music. It's hard to find Christian music that adhers to the Bible as opposed to the spiritual beliefs and traditions of a certain denomination (like Bethel). This group has many songs that I would call hymns, and others that are in a more modern style (like the song God is for Us). I don't want to take away from what Shope is talking about, because I think he's right. I just wanted point this bans out for the kind of Christian music that is more oriented towards praise and worship.
@@Crazyathome24 I love CityAlight...on constant rotation in my home 😊
2 Timothy 4:13
"When you come, bring the coat I left with Carpus in Troas, as well as the scrolls and especially the parchments"
Nothing deeply theological here. It's just life!!! We are allowed to do life. And I've been saying exactly the same about the word secular for the longest while.
Amen & Amen.
30:55 "you need to repent" what the fuckkkk 😭😭
Strange right?! 😅
You are right, very strange. Repent and swear words don't go together
1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel.
If Christian artists are ministers, Paul confirms they can make a living off of the gospel.
6:00 Not only. The Apostle Mark preached the Gospel in Egypt and was martyred there. The Coptic Church (a major branch of Christianity in Africa, about 9 million in Egypt) comes from Mark, the Apostle. Augustine was African, from Hippo in Algeria.
Money most definitely is a tool. A necessary tool for a comfortable life. I never gave money importance because of my lack of self control. I can't get a hold of money without abusing it. Knowing this, I limit the capacity of money that I make, giving me enough for things I need and little wiggle room for personal gratification. I've been happier valuing relationships and peace of mind far more than giving that value to money.
Powerful self-awareness. Keep working to master your lack of self control. It’s possible. Praying for you 🙏🏾
Shope: Your right, the issue is that people does not read the bible from its cultural perspective on what the words mean. People mentally, re-translate the bible into there own cultural experience. Nothing in the bible can be understood unless you active in the cultural perspective. Most of the problems you adress, is what the truth is. people don't preach the Gospel of Christ, (only christ). what Jesus stated in mattew, and john about what the Gospel is i have never heard in any church i have been involved in. Churches is becoming more concerned about how much people, and influence in the community, that the Gospel actually is never talked about. The churches music industry shows this as well. To compromise the faith of Christ for financial gain. The church has not taught the actual Gospel of Christ in over 1700 years.
13:18 exactly. theres this limited and close minded perspective that in order to practice christianity you must be in fields that are explicitly christian. believing this is like saying you actually dont believe that god has no ability to use any field to spread love. everybody has a calling, just cause its not at church doesnt mean theyre not serving.
Amen! You nailed it!
Great topic!!! bro❤
"Christians in music should never take any credit for their talent. It's not about them. It's all about Jesus. ... They shouldn't receive any accolades." This sounds similar to what I heard someone say about Pastors, "All pastors should be poor and struggling to provide for their families - otherwise they are not really serving God's kingdom; they're just in it for the money." While I have concerns about Pastors who are rich and seem to use the gospel (often a false gospel) to manipulate their congregations to make money, I think Paul's point in 1st Corinthians 9:9 seems to be that it's okay to honor people who serve in the church by providing for them financially.
Christian song writers, Pastors, or whoever else we may put on pedestals are really just brothers and sisters in Christ who God uses in a very visible & public way, but we make a mess of things by treating them as some sort of super-Christian. They are not Jesus Christ, and our occupations aren't any less holy.
Thanks again for the video.
Bruh that Lord Sephiroth guy. With a name like that I'm not surprised
Here inn ChicaGlo hoods, The Most High dwell in many young and old sisters and brothers equipped with musical talent harmonic skills to rock right ...problem is they don't be gettin' any spotlight
Still glowin' strong and know right from wrong
Let the Kings and Queens arise in this time. The Most High shall put chosen ones onn to righteously shine
Real professionals, highly intellectuals gotta give credit to
Poetic Justice, Psalms within'
Harmonics is innovation, the future.. harmony glows unlimited
Hi Shope, I appreciate this video it was very interesting to hear your prospective about the side to the Christian industry not many people get to see... I am a Studio owner in London UK and would love to discuss aspects of this video with your further. I'm a Christian who works in both Christian and none Christian music industries. Can we discuss parts of this video?
This is why I prefer Tidal Wave by Owl City over Oceans; while both do sing about struggling and hanging onto God, Tidal Wave is far more emotionally connective, not super overt on God's saving grace while the song still has a heart of God, and it just hits so much harder in my own subjective opinion.
The same could be said for Oceans, but I just prefer Tidal Wave overall and I hope it didn't come across as disrespectful to Oceans if it is your favorite song. Thank you for reading this if you have read this :)
No disrespect at all...I'll check out Tidal Wave now.
@@allofshope What did you think of the song? :)
@@cutepuddleslime8201 hmmm not bad, but personally prefer Oceans :-)
Oceans by Hillsong?? I never understood why it’s so popular. God never calls us to go out on the waters.
Hey, I actually don't listen to any secular music, and I don't listen to Christian music that much except hymns and some newer songs that are about Jesus coming to rapture us. I do agree that a man is to be the leader of his family and provide for them with his work, and I assume that you are married to the wife of your youth (and you are her first husband too). Do you know that we are in the very last days of the church age and that the pre-Tribulation rapture is about to happen? It's our blessed hope, and most of the Christians are not talking about it. Glad that you are born again, and still serving the Lord, and soon we will be in heaven singing face to face to Jesus Christ. Maranatha.
Maranatha!
full disclosure - I'm not a fan of rap music and have never even heard of Shope until wandering into the predecessor of this video. With that said, I have much respect for Shope and agree with him. Christian pop music was not like this in the 80s when I came to Christ. It was underground and extended from the convictions of the artists without industry hindrances. Metal and punk were especially confrontational along the lines of Larry Norman. This is the vibe Jesus Rock was all about but money interests have killed CCM.
3:10 Please double check your quotes before you publish them. I am a biblical Greek scholar and I'll give you a fresh translation from the Greek: "10 For the brotherly love of money is being a root of all evil things, for which some stretching forward are deceived into getting lost from off of the persuasion of faith, and pierce themselves all about in many sinking sorrows." 1 Timothy 6.10 [TRW] Since the Christian music industry is NOT the faith, there is no concern about you leaving that. You should leave it, because they are all false teachers in it, according to God in 2 Peter 2.3 AS FOR going into the secular music industry, no! You must not yoke yourself to an unbeliever in any contracts or partnerships.
They all are false teachers? Come on man. Yes, many ACs are here but all the Christians music industry/makers? And how is this man committing Balaams error? His music isn’t always a gospel presentation and he monetizes it as well as parallel ventures…what is the issue?
@@uhohcuzzo Are you sincerely asking or rhetorically arguing? If the latter, don't waste my time. If the former, we can have a conversation then.
@@TheRootedWord some of one, some of another. I’m not interested in a discussion tbh. You made a sweeping generalization and instead of apologizing you want to show me something. I’m good . Have a blessed one.
@@TheRootedWord You know what,after prayer, I do want to hear what you have to say,but I will say as a preface :Greek understanding of Scripture is not the end all be all of wisdom and without the proper Hebraic understanding, it all comes to naught.
God judges the motives of the person even if they are making Christian music or working at a church. So, if you're a Christian artist with the wrong motives. you're really a hypocrite. The Bible says I will bless whatever you put your hands to do.
This is suuucchhh a key point! Sadly, for many, the "Christian" label is merely a veneer.
Yeah this is very key.
What is the purpose of being a follower of Christ?
What did Christ do while He was on earth?
Music is just an avenue to spread the Gospel and anything associated with the lost souls hearing the Truth, Satan is in it causing confusion and conflict because he wants to destroy God's Kingdom. You felt convicted to expose the Christian music industry to inform people about how they operate, now what?
We were born into an existing Spiritual warfare and our souls are at stake, that's what God is concerned about, is those He chose to lead the lost to Him doing His Will or their own! ✌🏾❤️
Those people have NO RIGHT to be condescending towards you and to pass judgment on you.. Especially since you have already refuted their points in the video.
The very notion of Christian music/industry/artist, etc. makes no sense whatsoever. Music is a language. Industry is labor process with the main goal being high profit through high volumes and reduced costs. An artist is he who practices a form of art. None of them has inherently anything to do with Christianity but for some reasons you (and people in general) still cling to that kind of ideas and then try to rationalize your actions so it can reconcile with your faith. I'm just giving those as examples, it's far from being an exhaustive list. But the whole thing is a hamster wheel...
What Christians lack, really, is basic understanding of human nature and behavior, and basic understanding of whatever thing they want to do : business, music, relationships, etc. Not expecting things to conform to your beliefs/feelings/opinions but truly understanding how things work and seeing it for what it is. Then you decide what you want to do based on your beliefs.
You can enjoy looking at the clouds as much as you want, but at least keep your feet on the ground and take the time to look at the road to see where you're going...
Not sure if you actually watched the video 🤔
@@allofshope both (which is why I commented on this one instead of the first one), but if you want to elaborate, I'm all ears...
Thanks for the response by the way, not everybody reads comments, I'll give you that
What you are doing is called Balaam's error, where he loved the wages of unrighteousness by selling his ministry for a price. While it is not "pimping out the message" as you put it, it is pimping out your ministry. And that is why Balaam was set as a template by which we identify false teachers and false prophets.
Haven't finished the book of numbers yet but as far as I know this is not true.
The point here I don't get is that you don't understand his point. He made 2 videos and it's really clear so I would rather just wish for you to have a good day and disagree with you.
If u are not worshipping God and u are not praising the Devil, then u on the fence and the devils doesn't need u to worship him he just needs u to not worship God and then he's done and just like that u on his side tbh
True. What does it mean to worship God?
1 Corinthians 10:31
@@allofshope to worship God is to glorify God and exalt his name.
@@Adonais_bxby How do we glorify God and exalt his name, in all that we do? As 1 Corinthians 10:31 says.
Guess I'm the first one here
Let me know what you think.
There has been multiple of those guys have been to diddy parties
This video sucks too