Amazing twist! I really didn't see that one coming until the fog cleared and there stood Pan. Interesting and strangely touching how Pan took the name of the doll he'd given Rumple. Robbie Kay is awesome!
I love this show, and especially this season. The actor that plays Pan is really good...but he will have to go :-( Hopefully he gets redemption. I also hope they save Rumple.
Henry's mother is Emma, father is Bae/Neal => Henry's grandads is Rumple and Charming, grandmoms is Milah and Snow. Regina is Snow step mother => Regina is Henry's step GREAT-grandmother, who also his step mom (WTF?) Cora is Regina's mom => Cora is Henry's great-GREAT-grandmother, and she had feelings for Rumple. And Rumple girlfriend is Belle. Did I miss anything? Oh...right... AND PETER FREAKING PAN IS RUMPLE'S FATHER, THAT MAKES HIM HENRY'S GREAT-GRANDFATHER!!...... And they still ship him and Henry. Their family tree are so messed up! God....I need an aspirin...
Rumple's father (Peter Pan/ Colin or Malcolm? I have no idea) has tell Rumple that his father (PP's father) sold him to a blacksmith (or something. Sorry, I'm not good at English) before they jump through the portal to Neverland. Wonder if they will tell a story about him to. Him or Henry's great-GREAT-grandfather. Then we will go...coo coo...! =D
I suspected that Peter Pan might be Rumple father. But before the reveal I felt it was an absurd theory. but after watching this episode The reveal was that much more shocking. Man how much more dysfunctional can Henry family be than it already is?
@@idktbh92929 At least Cora, in her own fucked up way,TRIED to be a parent, even if they cared less about what the kid wanted and focused on what she wanted for the kid or what she wanted the kid to have that Cora was not able to have in her younger years. Not to mention Cora redeemed herself in the end sort of (even made it into their universe's version of Heaven). Peter Pan was a much worse parent, abandoned his only kid, and despite Cora doing something similar to Zelena, at least she didn't do it for eternal youth and her own private island, and at least she didn't allow some shadow demon to drag her kid away. Meanwhile Peter Pan couldn't at least redeem himself in the end, he was evil and out for his own ultimate goal right through to the end.
No kidding! Can you imagine him making a family tree project for school, or all of them sitting down together at Thanksgiving? LOL!!😄😄😄 I love OUAT, but it is such a soap opera in some ways.
@@rogueryder3285 I quit watching after S5 because the writing for everyone had gone completely off the rails since late me 3B and disillusioned me, but I’m still part part of this fandom because it introduced me to a lot of really passionate and creative fans with far superior headcanons, theories, and fanfic.
Powerful detail in Robbie Kay’s phenomenal performance as the green smoke clears … his wish has come true, yet as he watches his child disappear into the sky, his face only expresses horror and despair.
Even though he did let him go, I think he was sad about it and regretted it a little!!! I know this is bad, but I still love Pan and the actor who plays him plays the part perfectly!!! I don't think I can wait two weeks!!!
Pan would win worst father of the year no questions One can't but feel bad about Rumpel after this reveal, they may be alike but at least Rumpel felt bad abandoning his son and tried to find him, Pan didn't care one bit.
Your're right he does. It's easier for an actor to make you love the character they're playing than it is to make you dislike them. It takes talent and a truly great actor to have people have a love-hate feeling going for their character. I think most would agree as fans we love to hate Peter Pan. Sort of like the kid who plays Jeoffery on Game of Thrones except I think there it's more hate with that character than love.
completely shocked! The twist in this story just threw me. Call me crazy but maybe there is some small part of Pan that is human and cares. Maybe it has to do with everyone turning semi-good or something. The look on his face when rumple was gone looked more like regret and sadness rather than evil.
When I saw this episode I wasnt suprise Peter Pan was Rumple father. How they were going to neverland and Rumple father talking about being a boy made putting the peaces togethor
I guess i never expected this one coming,i was truly shoked,in a good way because i didn't predicted this thing...so wiked indeed...Man,Hook sure has karma with this family,from Peter Pan to Belfire,how unlucky one can get...and i really love the twists that the creators gave to the characters that we all know..Peter Pan evil,Jack was a she not a man and the giants weren't bad,Red was also the wolf,Rumple so many characters also the crockodile that took hook hand,so fun actually even if it's messy
I know i'm late to the show but did anyone peep that glimpse of pain in Peter's eyes when he released him to the shadow. He probably takes children specifically boys to clear the void in his chest for what he did those years ago... I dunno, I'm thinking to hard again and I'm still new to series
I believe that he cared for his son , I mean look at his expression ;after the shadow takes Rumple away .Also remember the scene that was cut out from this clip where Rumple confronts Peter Pan: Rumple: " I regretted leaving my son the moment I let him go. I spent my life trying to find him, to get him back. And what did you do? You forgot about me.. Peter Pan/Malcolm: I`ve never forgot about you! Why do you think I call myself Peter Pan. Rumple:Don`t think for a moment that I believe it is because you care for me. Peter Pan: But I do Sorry for my bad grammar :-)
what episode was this conversation from? cant find it anywhere. what episode can u respond back (ex: 3x08) ps. I don't know what episode it was but peter pan knew what rumpelle favorite breakfast was (eggs in a basket) clue there also.
Yeah i could say that he loved his son but he loved himself and his wish more than Rumple....and he sure didn't wanted to go back to his normal form as an adult so at the end he loves himself and his wish the most...if he truly regreted he would have come back for him letting go of his youth if his son was his most loved one....I'm curious about that shadow,what were her true motives to grant him his wish(not to be alone,i don't really think so),hope they will show more...
The only thing that confuses me is this: if Rumple already traveled with his father to another realm via a portal, why did he go "IT'LL TEAR US APART" when Bae tried to get him to go with him.
DarthRushy I think it was more that Rumple was afraid he would run into his father again or lose his power….or both. So he probably wanted Bae to think it would tear them apart just so he could avoid going. Im sure Rumple knew it wouldn't.
Bae could have been wrong, in Rumple's mind. Very very little does Bae ever work with magic…he could make mistakes very easily (again, at least in Rumple's mind). Also, if they do go to a land without magic, Rumple would be powerless again (as he explains to Bae earlier). He could still use the "tearing us to pieces" as an excuse to get out of it, even if he knew they would remain physically intact the whole time. I mean, he already mentioned how he doesn't want to lose his power to Bae, and that didn't work. So then he tries to make the portal look bad for both of them so Bae will back out too. All in all, its an excuse.
I can't believe such a young actor is that good as Robbie Kay. It all pretty crazy what he has to portray. An evil Peter Pan, and he also has to make it believable, as a young boy, that he is Rumple's father. And he totally nailed all of this. He should get an award for this.
ok 1. Did anyone else notice that Pan/Robbie way kinda crying when young Rumple way with the shadow?! 2. They way he said Great Grandson just flat out freacks me out and 3. PLEASE TELL ME IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW THAT ROBBIE HAD A DIMPLE ON HIS FOREHEAD!!!!!!!!!
OMG BIGGEST PLOT TWIST OF THE SEASON i had a feeling but was like how would rumple dad be so young XD all makes sense :( Rumple is nothing like his dad the minute he let go of Neal :| Rumple regretted it and did everything to get him back
I feel like when he first abandoned rumple he did feel a small sense of guilt and pain when hearing him cry and saying “no!” (Seeing as he had tears in his eyes, and named himself a after rumples favorite toy) but he was too selfish and in the end forgot who he once really was.
A lot of people have been complaining about Henry being related to EVERYONE (which he isn't really, just the entire main cast) and honestly, I think it's because they don't get the... don't know the exact word to use... focus of the show? It seems to be, that although there are romantic elements, it focuses mostly on family. So it makes sense that the main characters are a very large, dysfunctional family. That's what I think, anyway.
After Once Upon A Time, my childhood memories of Peter Pan being the good guy were ruined. Poor little Rumple! The little kid who played him as a child, Wyatt Oleff did a great job, and he was cute with his little fake Scottish accent. It was actually pretty good too. He looked like a mini Robert Carlyle Anyway, I digress; Malcolm was horrible for never regretting his decisions. Rumple I can forgive for letting Baelfire go for magic because he took on the curse to save his son, he clearly loved his son, his curse was new back then and kind of out of his control, and most importantly he regretted letting his son go and came back for him.
Coming back to this post I made five years later, and I can confidently say that the Neverland arc was truly the last arc on OUAT that I enjoyed. Everything that came after that was cheaply shocking, contrived, wildly ooc, wildly inconsistent, nonsensical, and painful character destroying bullshit, wasted potential, and recycled storylines. No one ever learned anything new afterwards. They just got dramatically derailed to be rerailed in increasingly cheaply shocking, contrived, wildly inconsistent, wildly ooc, one-dimensional, cheesy, and melodramatic ways. The character assassination throughout the entire remaining main cast just become increasingly revolting and stupid after the Neverland arc, especially for Emma, Hook, Rumple, and Belle. And yeah, they sort of got back on track at the end because it’s OUAT and no dealt with overcoming the mental/emotional scars of abuse, betrayal, deception, conflict, and trauma at all realistically or gradually anymore, and everyone had been abusive, exceedingly cruel, deceptive, manipulative, or hypocritical at least once. Everyone in the remaining main cast had committed a crime and/or misdemeanor of blackmail, child abduction, attempted child abduction, domestic violence, imprisonment, kidnapping, attempted kidnapping, violation of consent/autonomy, reckless abandonment, reckless harm, and/or reckless endangerment of lives, at least once, if not multiple times, post S3, including Emma, Snow, David, Belle, and even Henry. Rumple was the only one who ever had to deal with negative consequences and reactions for being shitty, but everyone else was justified and/or supported for backsliding or making bad choices. I guess Belle sort of understood that she fucked up with Rumple too at the end of that atrocious arc of painful and senseless Rumbelle systematic destruction in 6A and had to deal with some negative consequences for it, but too much senseless damage had been done to both her’s and Rumple’s credibility and integrity of character, both individually and as a couple, for me to even still feel emotionally invested in them in canon anymore. And it’s the same thing with Hook, Emma, Snow, David, and even Henry after the Neverland arc. They got “redemption arcs” and “happy endings,” but too much damage had been done to their credibility and integrity for me to care anymore. Regina remained the most consistently neutral and, but even she kept getting repetitive arcs of trying to artificially absolve her guilt over her crimes with magic, rather than just taking responsibility for them, and moving on now that she had everything she ever wanted anyway. Also, that time she stole Belle’s heart to use as leverage against Rumple to get Robin back was stupid and pointless, and she never dealt with any sort of negative consequences for it.
I'm not sure if I'm the only one that notices but that little kid who played the young Rumple is actually Wyatt oleff our beloved Stan from it chapter 1 and 2 and also Stanley Barber on I am not okay with this. I met him in 2018 and omg he was so sweet
as far as I was told,Peter Pan is a boy who never grows up!but he's actually a grown up man who just cheated on the way he was created and earned youth! Peter Pan only prefers and invites kids to Neverland!it's not because he has any interest or weird obsession with kids!only kids on that land can be with and like him! Peter Pan is so good with kids!my butt!Rumple was also his kid and how the hell the kids are supposed to be happy to be stuck with him for all eternity in Neverland,far from their parents!he gave up on his own child and was taking other parents children as well!like all people are like him! Peter Pan's legendary relationship with Darling siblings!Wendy was actually his prisoner for a century and by threating her little brothers,he was able to force her to stay in Neverland! and finally in OUAT he says that he wants to save magic and the Neverland is in danger and blah blah blah!the problem isn't from the land at all!it's all about him!Neverland can exist for the next thousands of years!it's him who actually can't stay there because again he's the guy who cheated on the way he was created!he was never meant to be in Neverland and only for that he did all of this!that much he shrinked and humiliated himself for something which belongs to kids😑 he's worthy of the name which everyone gave him "COWARD"
THIS was the best episode of this season!!! I totally didn't see that coming with Rumple's dad being Peter Pan. Ohhh wicked Peter Pan, what's gonna happen now that Henry gave him his heart? I think the answer is that in Neverland all you need is to think of something (believe it) and it happens. Maybe Pan will redeem himself?
***** It won't be that easy like you said, but I think there is a key to that "think of something and it will happen"....they will find a way to defeat Pan in some way. Rumple is my favorite character, I hope they are not just getting rid of him.
I have never really watched this series but im a huge peter pan fan=)...im just curious with what role peter pan plays in this series!!i think im convinced to watch it because of my obsession with peter pan =)
LOL and cuz Once Upon A Time show the best of everyone none one is truly evil XD like Regina and Rumple but nope Damn you Pan you have no soul XD did he even care for Felix? i wonder who rumple mother was too UGHHH why have to wait till march
You can see that Peter did actually love rumple When he turns back into a boy you can see the pain and hurt in his eyes when the shadow takes rumple away
This is so wrong!! After this I just want to know how he became this evil, Peter should be the good one not the evil one, now I just want to know who is Rumple's mother, I am shore that Peter wasn't like this. And why did he had Wendy in Neverland, does she seems like Rumple's mother or something? And the shadow, if it's his shadow then why was the shadow in Neverland before him? I just, I don't understand, this type of episodes are the best ones because make people think why the hell that happen, but they have to be carefull because everything have to fill in the story. And Henry can't die, he won't. I was hoping that Peter wasn't Rumple's father but well... shit happen...
he became evil because he wanted to be immortal but he only could become immortal if he got the heart of a true believer (henry) but he didn't know henry had the heart so he started to kidnap kids to find it or else he would die
What confused me though is how he suddenly got all that magic when he transformed into Pan and why malcolm became so evil and vindictive when he became pan??? Like turning into a boy suddenly made him a powerful villain? It just didnt add up. Worked out for an interesting story but its still malcom's adult mind in the body of a boy.....
+White Privilege When they released the casting call for Merida they said she was Rumple's mother, but they just said that so no one would expect it was Merida. I love Merida she's awesome, but Brave isn't rooted in any literature (Frozen was loosely based off of the Snow Queen) but I also think it was cruel to promise Rumple's mother and then oh they lied
This is gonna sound odd I know but I write stories and cause I go to bed thinking about these stories I'll end up dreaming them. And I had a dream bout Peter and Wendy, they were as you see them in the show (still young) and they were lying on the ground in neverland (like Edward and Bella) and looking at eachother lovingly. Peter had that sorta sad guilty look on his face, kinda like he had when he faced his son, but they were staring at one another cause they were married, like as kids, they got married in neverland. I know crazy, The dream seemed so vivid I wish it had been in an episode. Peter and Wendy looked adorable and it was cute seeing Peter care but also feeling guilty that he loves Wendy but keeps her caged. Also I think Peter and Wendy as basically in love in the original, or at least in remakes they are
This was experison when I learn that Peter pan is Rumple's father O___O WTF?! HOLY SHIT!!! Okay so what's next Neal and Regina half brother and half sister oh good lord O.o
maybe you write it as a joke but i thought maybe Rumple is Regina's father, because Cora is still did with Rumple before and i doubt after the marriage.
I think Rumple's Mother will link to him been as The Beast. Because, since Adam&Eddy made Pan as The Crocodile's Father, made perfect sense. Since, all three (Goldstiltskin, Nealfire & Henry) were once Lost Boys abandoned by their Fathers, except for Henry 'cos he didn't know Neal, but they all have spent time with Pan in Neverland. Now, I think Rumple's Mother might've of done what Milah did to Bae, except Milah left Rumple for Hook. So, I think Rumple's Mother might be The REAL Enchantress, if it were to link everything together. She left Malcolm, the moment he became a coward, (as in 1x08 episode, Women don't tend to stay with their cowardly-husbands) but she didn't mean to leave Rumple behind with him. I think, she learned magic somehow as all Sorceresses do. And, we all know The Enchantress hated unkind and cruel people, that's why I think. She was the one who sent The (young) Seer to Rumple. Because it was time for Pan to grow up. The only question I have is, how the hell did he get Henry's parchment?! But, I still think that it might've been her that brought Henry to Storybrooke, just to test Rumple once more since he left Bae.
So, when Rumple met Belle. She didn't approve of what he did to Gaston, but realised a Rose was something special, maybe Malcolm/Pan used to give her roses. I don't know, but when she heard of a Savior that would break Rumple's Dark Curse in search of Bae and once Regina enacted it. 21 years ago, she found Bae after he escaped from Neverland (she was the one, that told him Pan's shadow would get him out, but he had to capture it, similar to what happened in Dark Hollow). She told him that she knew his father, they were very close when Rumple was a boy. She knew that Bae was still mad at him, but in time, he would forgive his father, only when Bae was ready to do just that. She helped him after arriving back in LWM, probably in New Jersey (which is where Bae's fake-birth certificate as Neal Cassidy came into grips, etc etc) Just my opinion. But, if it was her, or August. I think, it was her that told August that Neal was Baelfire. I mean, has anyone noticed that Pan's approves of Belle XD, what if.. Rumple's Mother doesn't. Because she doesn't want him to be good again, The Enchantress could be as bad as Pan is NOW.. a Badass Mama, like Pan was a Bad Papa.
there is a big difference for rumple, he became the dark one for protect baelfire, and when he lost, her he has immediately had of remorse and has tried everything to find him
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I'm guessing this was Rumple's Undoing and when he gets out of the Box. He's going to make his Father pay. BIG TIME!!! He's going to make him grow up. XD
Amazing twist! I really didn't see that one coming until the fog cleared and there stood Pan. Interesting and strangely touching how Pan took the name of the doll he'd given Rumple. Robbie Kay is awesome!
me neither this show just keeps getting better I hope they don't kill him
I love this show, and especially this season. The actor that plays Pan is really good...but he will have to go :-( Hopefully he gets redemption. I also hope they save Rumple.
Awsome and sexy
Henry's mother is Emma, father is Bae/Neal => Henry's grandads is Rumple and Charming, grandmoms is Milah and Snow. Regina is Snow step mother => Regina is Henry's step GREAT-grandmother, who also his step mom (WTF?) Cora is Regina's mom => Cora is Henry's great-GREAT-grandmother, and she had feelings for Rumple. And Rumple girlfriend is Belle. Did I miss anything? Oh...right... AND PETER FREAKING PAN IS RUMPLE'S FATHER, THAT MAKES HIM HENRY'S GREAT-GRANDFATHER!!...... And they still ship him and Henry.
Their family tree are so messed up! God....I need an aspirin...
Wait until we learn that Cora's father was Mufasa...
Rumple's father (Peter Pan/ Colin or Malcolm? I have no idea) has tell Rumple that his father (PP's father) sold him to a blacksmith (or something. Sorry, I'm not good at English) before they jump through the portal to Neverland.
Wonder if they will tell a story about him to. Him or Henry's great-GREAT-grandfather.
Then we will go...coo coo...! =D
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LMAO XD
Nhu Hac Hoang Colin or Malcom ? Who's Colin , who's malcom ? o_O
Doda Dado It is Pan's real name. You know, his name when he is a father to Rumple (before he become handsome Pan :3) I just don't know which is.
I see now that Rumple pulled a bit of a Kenobi when he earlier said "Peter Pan destroyed my father"
He can't destroy your father
Yeah he did and my father
Well, that was bcz his father was taken over by Peter Pan so much so that he was completley other person,
Well it's technically the truth and it does make sense for him to describe it so vaguely since he didn't want Neal to know peter pan is his father
"So what Rumple said was true... from a certain point of view."
Pan was always talking about how rumbples father left him. So pan was talking about himself in third person?
Ife Uchime basically
If he were to ever embrace fatherhood, he'd lose his magic.
Apparently
And boasting about it
Pan is Rumple's father!!! I'm just shocked! Gosh, this show really getting better and better!
Wait until you get to season 6 that one will really put a twist on things lol
I suspected that Peter Pan might be Rumple father. But before the reveal I felt it was an absurd theory. but after watching this episode The reveal was that much more shocking. Man how much more dysfunctional can Henry family be than it already is?
TJ Malana Wait until you see Rumple's mother
Oh my god don't get me started on Fiona. She started all this.
A childlike father? Juicy little coward
Explains why rumple is so insecure over the years
"Father and son will be reunited"... What if the prophecy meant Rumple and Pan, not Rumple and Neal?
Excellent theory! And what if the Henry being his undoing meant that he would do the right thing, dying to save his grandson.
The seer said "you will be reunited with your son" to Rumple.
Best twist since Red was the wolf
And Neal being Baelfire
Leah Walentosky Ah good point
+Leah Walentosky and when rumple was Henry grandpa
It's a shame they rarely show her anymore
Wow didn't think it was possible but Pan just beat out CORA for WORST Parent in all of OUAT
NWCountryGirl17 Cora is the worst parent imo
Peter Pan never fails
@@idktbh92929 At least Cora, in her own fucked up way,TRIED to be a parent, even if they cared less about what the kid wanted and focused on what she wanted for the kid or what she wanted the kid to have that Cora was not able to have in her younger years. Not to mention Cora redeemed herself in the end sort of (even made it into their universe's version of Heaven).
Peter Pan was a much worse parent, abandoned his only kid, and despite Cora doing something similar to Zelena, at least she didn't do it for eternal youth and her own private island, and at least she didn't allow some shadow demon to drag her kid away. Meanwhile Peter Pan couldn't at least redeem himself in the end, he was evil and out for his own ultimate goal right through to the end.
Zander Wolfe lmao it’s my opinion. no need to write 2 paragraphs
Ikr 😅
Henry has a werid family
No kidding! Can you imagine him making a family tree project for school, or all of them sitting down together at Thanksgiving? LOL!!😄😄😄 I love OUAT, but it is such a soap opera in some ways.
Understatement of the Millennium! XD
@@Schoolgirl325 he gonna get one hell of a grade on that project watch😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Schoolgirl325 yup
@@rogueryder3285 I quit watching after S5 because the writing for everyone had gone completely off the rails since late me 3B and disillusioned me, but I’m still part part of this fandom because it introduced me to a lot of really passionate and creative fans with far superior headcanons, theories, and fanfic.
Powerful detail in Robbie Kay’s phenomenal performance as the green smoke clears … his wish has come true, yet as he watches his child disappear into the sky, his face only expresses horror and despair.
Even though he did let him go, I think he was sad about it and regretted it a little!!! I know this is bad, but I still love Pan and the actor who plays him plays the part perfectly!!! I don't think I can wait two weeks!!!
Pan would win worst father of the year no questions
One can't but feel bad about Rumpel after this reveal, they may be alike but at least Rumpel felt bad abandoning his son and tried to find him, Pan didn't care one bit.
Yup!
Don't care, he's still hot and one of the best characters of ouat
pause at 0:47.
that face.
I love it.
in love.
with the eyebrows.
and that smirk.
I love all of Robbie! ❤
On a show full of bad/absent parenting, could Malcolm possibly be the worst parent of them all?
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it was the biggest plot twist ever i was just SO shocked when i saw this
Wait, so Peter traps his own son in Pandora's box, and then convinces his great grandson to give his life by telling him lies. Neal RUN!
Great family isn't it?
Now that would be a tense family reunion.
Robbie Kay deserves an award or something i mean such a great young actor!!
Your're right he does. It's easier for an actor to make you love the character they're playing than it is to make you dislike them. It takes talent and a truly great actor to have people have a love-hate feeling going for their character. I think most would agree as fans we love to hate Peter Pan. Sort of like the kid who plays Jeoffery on Game of Thrones except I think there it's more hate with that character than love.
An explosion of feels just spilled all over my carpet. Ugh, stop ruining my life, Once.
This season has been so freaking amazing, and stupendous episode. Peter Pan arc was the best thing to happen to this show in a long time
Aaaand the Father of the Year award goes to......!
completely shocked! The twist in this story just threw me. Call me crazy but maybe there is some small part of Pan that is human and cares. Maybe it has to do with everyone turning semi-good or something. The look on his face when rumple was gone looked more like regret and sadness rather than evil.
Not gonna lie, I love his bracelets
And the best father award goes to malcom/pan!
Phycopath
+Jared Jarcer Psychopath
+Candy Beans thanks
Best?.....
Oh my word….ugh just the way pan looked at the camera🥵🥵🥵
When I saw this episode I wasnt suprise Peter Pan was Rumple father. How they were going to neverland and Rumple father talking about being a boy made putting the peaces togethor
I also like the music during 0:30 to 0:47, and I like the looks on Pan's face during that too! :D
The transformation scene is pretty cool
this scene absolutely floored me. omg. robbie kay's acting....
I guess i never expected this one coming,i was truly shoked,in a good way because i didn't predicted this thing...so wiked indeed...Man,Hook sure has karma with this family,from Peter Pan to Belfire,how unlucky one can get...and i really love the twists that the creators gave to the characters that we all know..Peter Pan evil,Jack was a she not a man and the giants weren't bad,Red was also the wolf,Rumple so many characters also the crockodile that took hook hand,so fun actually even if it's messy
No one:
Me: ITS LITTLE WYATT OLEFF
Dude this was mine blowing
I didn't see that one coming! Can't wait for the next episode!!!!
pan just puled out a reverse uno card man!
That glow up tho😂
why couldn't Pan continue until the end of the season?? i loved him so much :(((((
Same
He should've made an alliance with Zelena. That would've been epic.
I know i'm late to the show but did anyone peep that glimpse of pain in Peter's eyes when he released him to the shadow. He probably takes children specifically boys to clear the void in his chest for what he did those years ago... I dunno, I'm thinking to hard again and I'm still new to series
I believe that he cared for his son , I mean look at his expression ;after the shadow takes Rumple away .Also remember the scene that was cut out from this clip where Rumple confronts Peter Pan:
Rumple: " I regretted leaving my son the moment I let him go. I spent my life trying to find him, to get him back. And what did you do? You forgot about me..
Peter Pan/Malcolm: I`ve never forgot about you!
Why do you think I call myself Peter Pan.
Rumple:Don`t think for a moment that I believe it is because you care for me.
Peter Pan: But I do
Sorry for my bad grammar :-)
what episode was this conversation from? cant find it anywhere. what episode can u respond back (ex: 3x08)
ps. I don't know what episode it was but peter pan knew what rumpelle favorite breakfast was (eggs in a basket) clue there also.
Yeah i could say that he loved his son but he loved himself and his wish more than Rumple....and he sure didn't wanted to go back to his normal form as an adult so at the end he loves himself and his wish the most...if he truly regreted he would have come back for him letting go of his youth if his son was his most loved one....I'm curious about that shadow,what were her true motives to grant him his wish(not to be alone,i don't really think so),hope they will show more...
if u think about it Rumpel is one of the original lost boys!
Trying to control my emotions... I just LOVE Peter Pan. Idek... Robbie Kay is AMAZING!
So this is how Stan got to Derry...
this shocked hell out of me... my jaw was on the floor couldn't believe it.....
Can’t believe little rumple is wyatt oleff
he is so cute
The only thing that confuses me is this: if Rumple already traveled with his father to another realm via a portal, why did he go "IT'LL TEAR US APART" when Bae tried to get him to go with him.
he didn't mean it literally, he meant that it would probably ruin their relationship just like it happened with him and his father!
And how was Bae supposed to understand that?
DarthRushy I think it was more that Rumple was afraid he would run into his father again or lose his power….or both. So he probably wanted Bae to think it would tear them apart just so he could avoid going. Im sure Rumple knew it wouldn't.
Starr Beast Bae specifically told him they were going to a "place without magic" so he knew it couldn't be Neverland.
Bae could have been wrong, in Rumple's mind. Very very little does Bae ever work with magic…he could make mistakes very easily (again, at least in Rumple's mind). Also, if they do go to a land without magic, Rumple would be powerless again (as he explains to Bae earlier). He could still use the "tearing us to pieces" as an excuse to get out of it, even if he knew they would remain physically intact the whole time. I mean, he already mentioned how he doesn't want to lose his power to Bae, and that didn't work. So then he tries to make the portal look bad for both of them so Bae will back out too. All in all, its an excuse.
"A child can't have a child."
I can't believe such a young actor is that good as Robbie Kay. It all pretty crazy what he has to portray. An evil Peter Pan, and he also has to make it believable, as a young boy, that he is Rumple's father. And he totally nailed all of this. He should get an award for this.
I am Stunned! I can't believe that, Peter Pan is Henry great-grandfather.... 😦😱
Well that's why they called it the twisted family tree special feature season two
ok 1. Did anyone else notice that Pan/Robbie way kinda crying when young Rumple way with the shadow?! 2. They way he said Great Grandson just flat out freacks me out and 3. PLEASE TELL ME IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW THAT ROBBIE HAD A DIMPLE ON HIS FOREHEAD!!!!!!!!!
Robbie is absolutely fantastic as an actor and so cute! He will go very far.
OMG BIGGEST PLOT TWIST OF THE SEASON i had a feeling but was like how would rumple dad be so young XD all makes sense :( Rumple is nothing like his dad the minute he let go of Neal :| Rumple regretted it and did everything to get him back
I feel like when he first abandoned rumple he did feel a small sense of guilt and pain when hearing him cry and saying “no!” (Seeing as he had tears in his eyes, and named himself a after rumples favorite toy) but he was too selfish and in the end forgot who he once really was.
A lot of people have been complaining about Henry being related to EVERYONE (which he isn't really, just the entire main cast) and honestly, I think it's because they don't get the... don't know the exact word to use... focus of the show? It seems to be, that although there are romantic elements, it focuses mostly on family. So it makes sense that the main characters are a very large, dysfunctional family.
That's what I think, anyway.
After Once Upon A Time, my childhood memories of Peter Pan being the good guy were ruined. Poor little Rumple! The little kid who played him as a child, Wyatt Oleff did a great job, and he was cute with his little fake Scottish accent. It was actually pretty good too. He looked like a mini Robert Carlyle
Anyway, I digress; Malcolm was horrible for never regretting his decisions. Rumple I can forgive for letting Baelfire go for magic because he took on the curse to save his son, he clearly loved his son, his curse was new back then and kind of out of his control, and most importantly he regretted letting his son go and came back for him.
they should show more of rumples childhood
Coming back to this post I made five years later, and I can confidently say that the Neverland arc was truly the last arc on OUAT that I enjoyed. Everything that came after that was cheaply shocking, contrived, wildly ooc, wildly inconsistent, nonsensical, and painful character destroying bullshit, wasted potential, and recycled storylines. No one ever learned anything new afterwards. They just got dramatically derailed to be rerailed in increasingly cheaply shocking, contrived, wildly inconsistent, wildly ooc, one-dimensional, cheesy, and melodramatic ways. The character assassination throughout the entire remaining main cast just become increasingly revolting and stupid after the Neverland arc, especially for Emma, Hook, Rumple, and Belle. And yeah, they sort of got back on track at the end because it’s OUAT and no dealt with overcoming the mental/emotional scars of abuse, betrayal, deception, conflict, and trauma at all realistically or gradually anymore, and everyone had been abusive, exceedingly cruel, deceptive, manipulative, or hypocritical at least once. Everyone in the remaining main cast had committed a crime and/or misdemeanor of blackmail, child abduction, attempted child abduction, domestic violence, imprisonment, kidnapping, attempted kidnapping, violation of consent/autonomy, reckless abandonment, reckless harm, and/or reckless endangerment of lives, at least once, if not multiple times, post S3, including Emma, Snow, David, Belle, and even Henry. Rumple was the only one who ever had to deal with negative consequences and reactions for being shitty, but everyone else was justified and/or supported for backsliding or making bad choices. I guess Belle sort of understood that she fucked up with Rumple too at the end of that atrocious arc of painful and senseless Rumbelle systematic destruction in 6A and had to deal with some negative consequences for it, but too much senseless damage had been done to both her’s and Rumple’s credibility and integrity of character, both individually and as a couple, for me to even still feel emotionally invested in them in canon anymore.
And it’s the same thing with Hook, Emma, Snow, David, and even Henry after the Neverland arc. They got “redemption arcs” and “happy endings,” but too much damage had been done to their credibility and integrity for me to care anymore. Regina remained the most consistently neutral and, but even she kept getting repetitive arcs of trying to artificially absolve her guilt over her crimes with magic, rather than just taking responsibility for them, and moving on now that she had everything she ever wanted anyway. Also, that time she stole Belle’s heart to use as leverage against Rumple to get Robin back was stupid and pointless, and she never dealt with any sort of negative consequences for it.
I'm not sure if I'm the only one that notices but that little kid who played the young Rumple is actually Wyatt oleff our beloved Stan from it chapter 1 and 2 and also Stanley Barber on I am not okay with this. I met him in 2018 and omg he was so sweet
as far as I was told,Peter Pan is a boy who never grows up!but he's actually a grown up man who just cheated on the way he was created and earned youth!
Peter Pan only prefers and invites kids to Neverland!it's not because he has any interest or weird obsession with kids!only kids on that land can be with and like him!
Peter Pan is so good with kids!my butt!Rumple was also his kid and how the hell the kids are supposed to be happy to be stuck with him for all eternity in Neverland,far from their parents!he gave up on his own child and was taking other parents children as well!like all people are like him!
Peter Pan's legendary relationship with Darling siblings!Wendy was actually his prisoner for a century and by threating her little brothers,he was able to force her to stay in Neverland!
and finally in OUAT he says that he wants to save magic and the Neverland is in danger and blah blah blah!the problem isn't from the land at all!it's all about him!Neverland can exist for the next thousands of years!it's him who actually can't stay there because again he's the guy who cheated on the way he was created!he was never meant to be in Neverland and only for that he did all of this!that much he shrinked and humiliated himself for something which belongs to kids😑
he's worthy of the name which everyone gave him "COWARD"
ROBBIE KAY IS SUCH A GOOD ACTOR LIKE SERIOUSLY!?!?! Stay with me forever!
robbie kay is a amazing actor! i would really like to see him play in a actual movie!
He was amazing in this film called "Ways to live forever"
honestly pan is cute and I love this twist
THIS was the best episode of this season!!! I totally didn't see that coming with Rumple's dad being Peter Pan. Ohhh wicked Peter Pan, what's gonna happen now that Henry gave him his heart? I think the answer is that in Neverland all you need is to think of something (believe it) and it happens. Maybe Pan will redeem himself?
***** It won't be that easy like you said, but I think there is a key to that "think of something and it will happen"....they will find a way to defeat Pan in some way. Rumple is my favorite character, I hope they are not just getting rid of him.
That Peter Pan actor is really good. Robbie Kay I believe his name is, really talented.
A very talented actor and a very interesting villain.
Why did you cut out the part where Pan said I never forgot about you? That was the best part!
I have never really watched this series but im a huge peter pan fan=)...im just curious with what role peter pan plays in this series!!i think im convinced to watch it because of my obsession with peter pan =)
He starts tearing up at 0:36 . I think he was kinda regretting letting go.
nope XD after the Going Home Episode No Doubt in my Mind Pan is truly evil XD he told Rumple can't i get rid you
Sheyla Prieto Yah...but in this episode he looked regretful...but then he's like 'nah. go away Rumple.' in like every other episode XP
True after i saw him tearing i really wanted to believe he love rumple maybe a little tinyy bit but XD
Sheyla Prieto yah ik! I was like "c'mon. have a soul. i know you have one...probably. it's ok. you can be nice. ah, ah! nope..." XD
LOL and cuz Once Upon A Time show the best of everyone none one is truly evil XD like Regina and Rumple but nope Damn you Pan you have no soul XD did he even care for Felix? i wonder who rumple mother was too UGHHH why have to wait till march
I can't stop smiling like an idiot when I see Robbie
You can see that Peter did actually love rumple
When he turns back into a boy you can see the pain and hurt in his eyes when the shadow takes rumple away
And the fact that he spent centuries bearing the name of his son’s favorite doll. That is extremely telling.
Who Misses Peter? He couldnt care for Rumple bcs he just feeled like a teenager. But its so heartshocking..
Amazing twist loving three generation of man, peter pan, rump, bellfire, snd henry
How did they keep it from leaking??? When I saw Pan in the mist, I was floored!!!
This is so wrong!! After this I just want to know how he became this evil, Peter should be the good one not the evil one, now I just want to know who is Rumple's mother, I am shore that Peter wasn't like this. And why did he had Wendy in Neverland, does she seems like Rumple's mother or something? And the shadow, if it's his shadow then why was the shadow in Neverland before him? I just, I don't understand, this type of episodes are the best ones because make people think why the hell that happen, but they have to be carefull because everything have to fill in the story. And Henry can't die, he won't. I was hoping that Peter wasn't Rumple's father but well... shit happen...
he became evil because he wanted to be immortal but he only could become immortal if he got the heart of a true believer (henry) but he didn't know henry had the heart so he started to kidnap kids to find it or else he would die
péter Pan et trop mignion 😍😘😍😍😝
Itdoes seem like Pan cared a little bit I guess with the anger but then he stops careing and u know
This and that Neal is baelfire were the best twists in the show!! Like if you agree
I saw the twist coming...
And :42 is the only time that you see Robbie's blue eyes.....
They were originally green. Maybe it's because of the lighting that made his eyes sometimes look like blue.
And in some of the other lighting, they look brown.....
God pan is so handsome
best episode of the season so far, loved the Pan/ Rumple story, why is everyone so disappointed in this season?
I was so shocked!!!!
Pan was right about one thing, Rumple is better off without him!
What confused me though is how he suddenly got all that magic when he transformed into Pan and why malcolm became so evil and vindictive when he became pan??? Like turning into a boy suddenly made him a powerful villain? It just didnt add up. Worked out for an interesting story but its still malcom's adult mind in the body of a boy.....
Who is the mom of the child
Me.
+sasha AJ
They never revealed who is the mother of Rumpel. Even up to now. It certainly is a mystery
sasha AJ Probably Mother Goose
***** oh hell yeah! how do u know?
+White Privilege When they released the casting call for Merida they said she was Rumple's mother, but they just said that so no one would expect it was Merida. I love Merida she's awesome, but Brave isn't rooted in any literature (Frozen was loosely based off of the Snow Queen) but I also think it was cruel to promise Rumple's mother and then oh they lied
This breaks my heart :(
Have to admit....DID NOT see that one coming. :)
Peter Pan is the best character on the show
This is gonna sound odd I know but I write stories and cause I go to bed thinking about these stories I'll end up dreaming them. And I had a dream bout Peter and Wendy, they were as you see them in the show (still young) and they were lying on the ground in neverland (like Edward and Bella) and looking at eachother lovingly. Peter had that sorta sad guilty look on his face, kinda like he had when he faced his son, but they were staring at one another cause they were married, like as kids, they got married in neverland. I know crazy, The dream seemed so vivid I wish it had been in an episode. Peter and Wendy looked adorable and it was cute seeing Peter care but also feeling guilty that he loves Wendy but keeps her caged. Also I think Peter and Wendy as basically in love in the original, or at least in remakes they are
This is like Starwars all over again
He could have told rumple he loved him
This was experison when I learn that Peter pan is Rumple's father O___O WTF?! HOLY SHIT!!! Okay so what's next Neal and Regina half brother and half sister oh good lord O.o
maybe you write it as a joke but i thought maybe Rumple is Regina's father, because Cora is still did with Rumple before and i doubt after the marriage.
Can U Upload Clip Where Pans Say He Never Forget Rumple :3
I think Rumple's Mother will link to him been as The Beast. Because, since Adam&Eddy made Pan as The Crocodile's Father, made perfect sense. Since, all three (Goldstiltskin, Nealfire & Henry) were once Lost Boys abandoned by their Fathers, except for Henry 'cos he didn't know Neal, but they all have spent time with Pan in Neverland. Now, I think Rumple's Mother might've of done what Milah did to Bae, except Milah left Rumple for Hook. So, I think Rumple's Mother might be The REAL Enchantress, if it were to link everything together. She left Malcolm, the moment he became a coward, (as in 1x08 episode, Women don't tend to stay with their cowardly-husbands) but she didn't mean to leave Rumple behind with him. I think, she learned magic somehow as all Sorceresses do. And, we all know The Enchantress hated unkind and cruel people, that's why I think. She was the one who sent The (young) Seer to Rumple. Because it was time for Pan to grow up. The only question I have is, how the hell did he get Henry's parchment?! But, I still think that it might've been her that brought Henry to Storybrooke, just to test Rumple once more since he left Bae.
So, when Rumple met Belle. She didn't approve of what he did to Gaston, but realised a Rose was something special, maybe Malcolm/Pan used to give her roses. I don't know, but when she heard of a Savior that would break Rumple's Dark Curse in search of Bae and once Regina enacted it. 21 years ago, she found Bae after he escaped from Neverland (she was the one, that told him Pan's shadow would get him out, but he had to capture it, similar to what happened in Dark Hollow). She told him that she knew his father, they were very close when Rumple was a boy. She knew that Bae was still mad at him, but in time, he would forgive his father, only when Bae was ready to do just that. She helped him after arriving back in LWM, probably in New Jersey (which is where Bae's fake-birth certificate as Neal Cassidy came into grips, etc etc) Just my opinion. But, if it was her, or August. I think, it was her that told August that Neal was Baelfire. I mean, has anyone noticed that Pan's approves of Belle XD, what if.. Rumple's Mother doesn't. Because she doesn't want him to be good again, The Enchantress could be as bad as Pan is NOW.. a Badass Mama, like Pan was a Bad Papa.
I love u babe peter pan
Man he did the same thing to baelfire like father like son😢
there is a big difference for rumple, he became the dark one for protect baelfire, and when he lost, her he has immediately had of remorse and has tried everything to find him
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Now knowing that the Shadow is voiced by Marilyn Manson makes this scene a lot more scarier.
This was part that got all mass up i thought this was pan"s story simple rumple's story. Still scares me
Mirror mirror on the wall, which dad is the worst of them all?
I'm guessing this was Rumple's Undoing and when he gets out of the Box. He's going to make his Father pay. BIG TIME!!! He's going to make him grow up. XD
Neal actually died in one of the episodes in once upon a time
Peter pan is beautiful!!!!