Steve Finally Has To Buy Lumber - Episode 299 - Acorn to Arabella: Journey of a Wooden Boat
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We start today in the galley, where Steve has repurposed the woodstove chimney into as a place where a galley exhaust fan can audition. Cooking aboard this boat has taught Akiva that loud noises happen a short time after the stove turns on, so he's been a pretty anxious boat dog around mealtimes. Steve installs the blower and works out the kinks.
Building just about anything from spruce sourced at a lumber yard is a new experience for Steve, and he takes two carefully selected boards to a shop with a family connection to glue the new mizzen boom and shape it up.
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Acorn to Arabella started as a wooden boat building project in Granby, Massachusetts. Steve began the journey as an amateur wooden boat builder crafting a 38' wooden sailboat in his backyard: designer William Atkin's Ingrid with a Stormy Petrel's gaff rig. These videos follow the journey from tree felling, to lumber milling, to lofting, to the lead keel pour and now sailing the boat-sharing details of the woodworking, carpentry, metal smithing, tool building, and tool maintenance that traditional wooden boats command. This ultimate DIY project continues beyond the boat shop, as Steve and crew travel and learn to cruise aboard the handmade wooden boat that they've built. Just kidding about all that, this channel is about a Siberian Laika named Akiva.
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steve', we have a small sawmill and lumberyard in southern connecticut. if you let it be known, you can have material for the asking. fob. i wish to extend continued support and good wishes.
Thank you Russ, that’s very kind. Do you know about Restoring Rosalind in Connecticut, also here on UA-cam?
Are you at Lakeside? And do you have access to quartersawn cedar? I've been looking for lumber, albeit halfheartedly, for a future kayak project. It'll probably be a few years still before I can get to it
HVAC tech here. it sounds like you need a dedicated combustion air infeed for the diesel heater. it would be a dedicated supply that feeds the heater. This would probably help keep drafts down as the heater would not need to pull air from any place it can around the boat.
Hello, also a HVAC guy. His problem is more of a attic fan scenario. When the fan is turned on in a sealed space it will pull from the easiest place, the heater vent. That is why the fire gets pulled down. If a vent was installed in the space someplace when the fan is turned on it would draw from that instead of the heater vent.
also hvac and agreed! @davidduncan6280 Steve should look for a sealed combustion unit, or possibly swap to a powered diesel heater. I'm so excited to see Arabella in the water. I've had the rare pleasure of seeing the boat at the boatyard in Granby and when launched in mattapoiset. Its so incredible what Steve has achieved and I'm excited to continue to follow his journey
You Prob want to open a porthole on the wall BEHIND you, so incoming air wont "short-cycle from the porthole right there next to the fan, and will actually help move cooking steam! Also you should look into a Quieter fan, that one will drive everyone nuts being so loud
"Say hello to my boomstick" great line. If Steve needs any more lumber, remember. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.
Steve is so good at teaching with children. Always impressed with his approach.
You've commented on the same observation that struck me as well.
Steve simply explains each minute detail that is necessary to accomplish the task, absent any unnecessary directions.
Thank you very much.
I was coming here to tell just that... I know for a fact that it is very diffrent with our onw kids (I havbe five). Steve is going to be a great father if he want to have kids one day.
Steve is teaching really unsafe chop saw use.
Akiva was just making sure that you're aware that the alarms are going off. He's a good boy. 😄👍
Put a speed control on that fan. They move lots of air on low as well and it will be much quieter.
great tip. Thing sounded like it was BLASTIN.
was just thinking this my self. since its DC a simple Pot would work fine
A pulse width modulation controller works great for that kind of fan. Cheap and available.
I was gonna say, that blower is about as annoying as a beeping smoke alarm.
Speed controller would be like, $1-2. Very easy now that he has a proof of concept. Also, always better off with a larger fan that spins slower. Same amount of air moving but the bigger one is quieter. Honestly, if he just had 2 portholes open, it probably would've solved the problem for quiet and free.
Safety First! Arabella is a tight ship. She needs more combustion air for the diesel heater. Whatever replaces the new/temporary exhaust fan needs a filter for particulates in the smoke, which will eventually coat the pipe and fan blades etc. and is combustible. Check out RV stuff, it's efficient and quiet might work and is likely to be cheaper than marine grades... $6.xx a board foot for that wood seems pricey, but it's select and #1 grade. Plus you did get to pick it and that's always worth a bit more...Kudos to the entire team for another great video.
Steve, whether you were explaining the importance of choosing a good quarter sawn board to Robin, or directing her nephew in assisting you, I commend you for the calm rational approach that you take as an instructor.
Happy Friday everyone, Hello dear viewers, just a gentle reminder, Please don't forget to like and subscribe, it costs nothing but it supports the channel and it makes the world just that little better and with all that's going on in the world at the moment we need it , thank you for your time xxxx
Always love your cheerleading and wonderful supportive reminders, Aynsley. Happy Friday!
The silver lining whenever something breaks is that i have new boat building material to look forward to.
Suppose so! 🌥️
Just a quick thought having had to clean cooking ventilation systems. Where there is smoke there is grease (in surprising quantities). A grease filter will be an excellent addition ... js.
Thoughtful tip!
Replace the bilge blower with a computer fan. You can get really quiet ones that will fit that vent and won't draw too much air.
But it won't move enough air to make that big a difference.
I have had the same issue in a camper I built…computer fans stacked (coaxial) added the flow and pressure needed.
You'd be surprised. They come in different airflow ratings so get one of the more powerful ones, and you can stack a couple if one is not enough.
Good morning Akiva and Crew 👋👋😸😺 / is today the first time we're seeing Robyns - Dad on an episode ?? and he has
a great looking workshop !👍👍😺
That’s not Robin’s dad there, sorry for the confusion.
Steve you need a combustion air vent. It's just a vent from the outside and to replace the air you're burning and you stop it from sucking from the diesel heater
The porthole seems to do the job. How would the combustion air vent be different?
@@briansmith8967 I’m a heating guy and the one thing when you’re dealing with something like this, is you can’t count on the next person or guest to open it. It should be made safe in the worst case. Hence the permanent combustion air vent.
@@davidduncan6280 Should these be input more directly for the oil heater combustion? If the Oil heater, it seems like it would also leave more of the heat for inside the cabin and not sucked out.
@@StephenLinhart the oil heater should have a combustion air through the vent, some units use a triple vent. But as for what is happening with the heater is like what happens if you have a attic fan. If you turn it on with no doors or windows open it will pull back through the water heater or furnace vent. A direct vent out side will make sure that when he turns on his exhaust the air volume is getting replaced or pulled back in. With the combustion vent it will pull from that and not the heater. The vent can be anyplace in that space, even hidden as long as it is open. You could make it electrically open at the same time as the fan goes on. This way it can stay closed when not in use in cold weather.
Thanks.@@davidduncan6280
Also. Mayba you haven't notice . But.
Your propane Cookstown is adding extra moisture to the air in the cabin.
Also it is adding N odor to everything in the cabin
If you run that fan through a flat piece of material you'll increase the effective area of the exhaust. Air is sucked from all directions around the end of the pipe. Adding a baffle moves the edges of that pipe end. You can mock something up in cardboard and tape to get the design right.
Me going to lumber yard, pick up the first bit of wood of the about right size. Steve going to Lumber yard, gives a detailed histroy of each planks growing conditions and story :)
Loved the reference at the end! Steve could consider using an EDF (electric ducted fan) for the exhaust, they are commonly used in hobby aircraft, and usually have an easily adjusted speed controller to allow for a more quiet operation. Don't forget a mesh grease screen!
Kids, especially young boys, often love bilingual (and breaking) things. Your nephew clearly has the interest, and your letting him do tasks that you’d MUCH RATHER do yourself is an awesome thing. Loved it!
Robyn's Dad is a cool cat! Y'all were born to teach.
Nice to see you “back in your element”! Well done. Wonderful solution for Akiva (& you guys)…..
Steve demonstrating the proper safety squint technique on the saw 😅
haha....exactly. no need for a push stick either when you can just run your hands alongside both sides of the blade.
A happy Akiva makes for a happy boat I imagine. If that is a cabinet-making shop this was probably an interesting diversion for that gentleman.
I think stores that sell parts for camper vans and caravans you could find a nice kitchen extractor hoods that are small enough for your boat and work with 12 volts. In any case it would look much nicer than a bilge blower.
Remember that you can aim a jet of air, but you can't aim a vacuum. The "zone of influence" - there's probably a technical name for it - is basically always pretty much a (half) sphere around the opening. You might get by with a lesser capacity, and less noisy extraction fan if you bring a hood down closer to the range.
That's a common HVAC problem. You can add another duct fan to bring in fresh air and blow it behind the stove. This will one keep the static pressure of the boat neutral and as long as you are exhausting this new fresh air you wont turn your boat into a icebox. Another option is to only blow in fresh air from outside and pressurize the space, and let the room air flow out the exhaust pipe. Whatever air you exhaust you MUST makeup, NEVER let the boat get to a negative static pressure with the heater running.
Good to see you using the metal tape to seal the joints on the vent. Never use duct tape on ducts (or anything). The adhesive eventually dries up and it fails.
Steve , normal smoke alarms are optical - inside there is a small flashing light ,via a mini mirror it lands on a fotoelectric cell = all o.k.- if not ...alarm .
There is another type which registers a too high temp near the ceiling .
Standard optical alarms are a bother in small kitchens , baking pancakes ,steak, steam ,or dropping the dustbag of your Hoover 😂
“Say hello to my boomstick” 😅
😁😉
Bruce Campbell eat your heart out!
A nice little square to round fume hood would be great now, the fan could be mounted elsewhere.
Steve , maybe you should feed your Diesel heater with outside air , many people do that with airtight stoves and fireplaces , you can leave the windows close and it also doesn’t consume the oxygen and air in the boat ! They may even make a outside air intake for that stove , also I would have a stove hood and use that as part of the exhaust vent system most stove hoods have some type of stainless steel filter before the fan assembly ?
The educator in you shines through when you are around children. Well done on the new boom.
Steve,
We had false triggering from the smoke detector near the kitchen in our motorhome. Replacing the "ionization" type detector with a "photoelectric" type completely fixed the problem. No more false alarms. Most detectors are ionization type, so you have to look at the specs to get what you want. Do not get a dual type either.
We bought from amazon this: "Kidde Smoke Detector, 9-Volt Battery Operated, Photoelectric Smoke Alarm, Battery Included"
Thanks for sharing that!
If you put some sort of large funnel over that exhaust fan you can probably use a motor speed controller to lower the fans RPM and still get the same amount of airflow and just won't be as loud or use as much power and it'll probably be more effective at removing smoke and carbon monoxide.
Great to see some shop woodworking again.
My grandpa was like that in a lumber yard. He'd go through a whole pallet of lumber and only find one or two boards that met his approval. Drove the people at the lumber yard crazy but he made beautiful furniture.
Aw, thanks for sharing the memory of your grandpa.
One of the first boat building (primarily FRP construction) shop I worked in, we would dumpster dive anywhere near the shop for 'Visqueen'. A cpl tabs of duct tape some string and viola disposable glue up aprons. I said disposable but we would put a cpl coats of wax on the 'work side' of the Visqueen aprons and just let any epoxy that got on the apron cure and just pop it off after cure. We used the same cpl of aprons for a year or so. Even if it is a one shot glue up, the aprons are so easy (and cheap) to make it is well worth it. :)
Its great that you were able to use Robin's dad's workshop, and that he was able to contribute to the project. Seems like a great bonding experience with your future father in law. Has he been to see Arabella yet?
That’s not Robin’s dad here in the video, but yes Robin’s dad has seen Arabella.
You know Steve, I love how you are so ready to teach the young ones your craft. It takes a great deal of patience and trust when it comes to Arabella. It's sweet watching you guide the lad as he learns important skills for his future. Praying continues for your mom. See you next week.❤❤
Happy Friday to you Kathy, thank you so much!
Man, that vacuum effect really goes to show what a well-built boat Arabella is. On the new mizzen boom, it's absolutely stupid how expensive lumber has gotten, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Great work, guys.
Happy Friday!
I agree, it was not like Steve to get so close to the "Finger Reaper" without push sticks ,apart from that, another very interesting episode and analysis of the smoke removal problem.
cheers from the UK
I miss the builds. (18:48). My father used woodworking tools. As kids, he had two rules for us: "Put it back where you found it! and "Do not use the circular saw." I don't recall him ever saying, "Listen to the material!" but it's one that I've never forgotten. That glue is talking to you.
Hi guys, Jim from Arkansas here. A good episode today I have enjoyed it! Thanks!
Steve may still be a junior Sailor but he is a master woodcrafts man. I enjoy watching him work the wood.
Glad you enjoyed it, Jim! Happy Friday!
For the amount of air flow you need a computer fan will do the job and be virtually silent. A bilge fan is designed to shift lots of fumes quickly so you can get on with starting the engine which means it is rather overkill for your needs.
Enjoyed the episode. I wondered if I would enjoy the channel post launch. Haven’t missed an episode since 2017 and still loving it. ❤ Shout out to Ben for the great music. Really hits.
Thank you so much!
As a hobbyist woodworker, 12:05 OMFG where the hell are your push sticks?! Particularly with the complete lack of a blade guard or splitter. And, 14:32 why is Liam operating that saw without safety glasses?! Although I do appreciate that he has proper hearing protection.
Dear Anne, Robin, Steve and all others who worked om Arabella,
It’s always nice to see how from 2 rectangular oak beams a replacement for a round boom is born. Willeke and in special me love to see this.Personally I think Steve was very critical in the selection of the oak beams what for sure will make the new boom stronger.
We look forward to your next vlog and send you love from the Netherlands
Hey Steve, it might be a good idea to put some kind of grease filter on that fan, I could see that gumming up with grease pretty quick.
Others may have mentioned it in the comments below, but you will soon need a grease filter on your air blower, else you will fin it caked with grease from the cooking and the efficiency will be greatly reduces. Cooking hoods do have some sort of filter...
What I’ve used for air/heat transfer a lot is the muffin fans that are used in computers, power supplies, and other electronics..
They are virtually silent which is a plus and come in many sizes. Relatively cheap and economical...
Love the channel !!
I've had good success with 12v computer fan installed as an exhaust for my boat's stove/oven. It's very quiet. It's also waterproof and came in a two pack from Amazon so I have the other one deployable in the Dorade vent located in the Head (also exhaust) for after shower moisture or odor control (not that I ever have any odor issues in the Head). Both work great and were inexpensive (gotta love Amazon).
Thanks for sharing your experience.
A year ago, I made a quick visit to the boat house. At that time the rudder was sitting on saw horses and you could easily see between the planks riveted to the hull. AMAZING what has been accomplished in just a year.
Such an amazing journey.
Thanks so much for being with us on it!
the amount of knowledge in that shop is 🤯
Steve, try mounting the in-line blower further up the ducting. That should quiet it down.
The fan can be quieter if you make the above-stove intake (which you lack) have an inline muffler before a 90 deg elbow to the blower. If you need more room, move the blower up. A quieter blower would also help, but both are solutions. HTH.
CVG Douglas Fir lumber ain't cheap. I trimmed a custom home out with it a few years ago. $25/ft for 2x10
Wow, I would never shop at a lumber yard that didn't let me pick the planks I wanted.
Right?!
Thanks to the local lumber yard to allow Steve to select the best 2 pcs for the mizzen boom. Same for Robyn's dad for using his workshop to shape and form the boom.
It is good to see Steve work with wood again. I joined your channel back when you were pouring the lead keel.(under a different name)
Thanks for being here on the journey with us for so long!
You may be able to move the fan to the top of the vent pipe outside for noise.
That toothing blade also makes some amazing kindling haha
Premium nest building material as well, assuming the birds don't mind the Douglas Fir :)
Nice to see some woodwork again
Good morning, 'bella fam! Happy Friday! ☕
Happy Friday!
You are so fortunate to be able to buy slow-grown fir. In Australia, we can only get fir grown in New Zealand, which is coarse-grained.
If only there was still Huon Pine down there. Good stuff!
Steve, you could add a light dimmer switch (a rheostat) to control the motor speed and slow to air flow down.
The things we do for our dogs.
When my dog smells even a little cooking smoke she begs to go outside because she knows that the smoke alarms might go off😅. I love watching your live aboard videos, because there is so much to learn compared to summer weather. I am a sailor on the Great Lakes and I am completing a boat build this spring 😊. It’s been a ten year journey because of a battle with leukemia, so this year’s launch will be a very special one. I’m building a Paul Gartside designed cutter. Best wishes to you and you “crew” and am looking forward to seeing your many adventures on the water. 😊😊⛵️⛵️
Add a resistor or variable pot to the fan, so you can slow it down
Does the diesel heater have a provision for direct hook up of combustion air?
One of the best sponsor segues ever.
Wow, thanks. 😊 we try to make it smooth and relatable.
17:10 he let all the glue slide out haha
Squeeze-out is a good thing! You can be sure there is glue everywhere in the joint.
Another really interesting and well told story today. Thanks for continuing to share your journey with us. I also enjoy reading the comments and I am intrigued to see so many people sharing similar observations repeatedly. I really hope there will be a video sometime down the road when Steve rebuilds the design for the cook top venting. No doubt he will consider all the thoughtful suggestions, he will test and prototype until he gets it just right! Great video again. Prayers continue for Steve's Mom.
I'm wondering if putting trhe fan higher up the pipe would help with noise, and keep the fan further from the heat which can dry the bearings, you could also look into a regulator to drop the voltage which should slow it down a bit, there are adjustable regulators (buck converter)
Also i would add a 'cooker hood' so any smoke is naturally captured, and rising heat should take the smoke out without the fan. (stiill keep the fan though)
In Germany it's mandatory to use a window contact switch for that kind of setup, so you can't turn your suction on without opening a window. It shouldn't be that expensive and it's an extra layer of security, because you really really don't want to die from carbon monoxide poisoning. Stay safe!
Interesting, thanks for sharing that fun fact!
Stumpy Nubs would be shouting at you about push sticks.
Not for the heater air issue but for efficiency relative to noise, looking a bit at the design of stove vents and the why's and how's might get you a quieter, more efficient and easier to clean system.
So you guys had an electrical issue. Made several episodes about it and even had a special guest talk about it. Then nothing but crickets. Was the problem the shaft packing? You haven't mentioned it so I'm assuming the problem is fixed.
It’s a good point, we’re hoping to have an update once we’ve spent more time with the new packing in place. It takes time to observe.
Steve all the crimps on you exhaust piping is backwards. You need to have crimps follow the airflow direction. Also anytime you have exhaust you need makeup air to keep from creating a vacume
Hoods are an interesting dilemma. Commercial hoods have their own fresh air supply. If they didn't have them, the hood would suck the hvac out of the building. Residential hoods usually don't have their own supply because the rooms are usually so leaky that an air supply is not needed, plus the exhaust fans are not that powerful. You probably don't need that powerful of a fan, or you need to add a controllable air supply. The porthole will work in good weather, but what bad?
Good Morning from Sandwich, MA
Haaaaaappy Friday, Bud!
Theres always fine tuning on a new wooden boat,it only gets worse the older it gets,enjoy your time with it, is all i can say
Love your way to work with kids ❤❤❤🎉 fan Sweden 🇸🇪
Someone's been watching "Army of Darkness" with that 'Say hello to my boomstick." Haha
12:05.....Steve! Where is your push stick? 10 fingers in the kit, no spares in the parts store, ever....
For whatever reason, I didn’t know Robyns dad had a very nice milling shop. This was a special episode.
Akiva has my sympathies!
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There is a reason for a hood over the stove in a galley. The fan could use a hood.
wow, robins dad got a great radio voice
You have the wrong detectors. You need create of rise detectors during the day and smoke detectors at night. If neither of you smoke,, then the risk in reality is quite low that anything will happen if you maintain your equipment. Rate of rise means that you can cook without drama . It will excite if the temperature in the space rises very quickly and dramatically. These are meant for kitchen areas. At night the detector switches to smoke,
Or you can just ventilate the space and not require special smoke detectors to not false trip on the trash quality air, win win.
They have a diesel heater that I presume they use at night, at least on very cold NE nights. They want CO protection while they sleep. Spoken by a fellow who's uncle succumbed to CO as a college student sleeping in a trailer way back in 1939.
That was a treat. Thanks. :)
Nice education on purchasing lumber. Selection and price are both important. Nice stove vent. Temporary I presume. I saw several suggestions to get it quieter. Some insulation around the duct would probably help some too. Also some form of hood would help collection. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Try using a fan from a computer, it will still do the job but much quieter. That's what I used in my camper
Personal i would consider pulling a flat nozzle on the bottom of the fan, so its pulling a sheet of air from under the over hang, the smokes is already follwing that path, so a inch opening, 12 inchs wide facing back under the over hang would set up the air flow pulling smoke to the back of the cooker and up. and a much smaller fan would clear a lot of smoke. kind of how you see in a paint spray booth, were you have a long wide narrow funnel dragging a curtian of air up at the back. So you can use a slower speed fan and still catching all the over spray..
“Wow, lumber that’s actually straight and not splinted or moldy!” -This Lowe’s Shopper.
$200… “Oh.” -Also This Lowe’s Shopper.
Hahah
14:50 Proud momma
Great job, Liam and crew!!
As mentioned, a combustion chamber intake vent will also increase heat output of stove. Computer fan built into a copper hood would be dandy.
Copper hood above stove.
If it is possible to place the inline exhaust fan further up the exhaust pipe, ideally outside the cabin, you will significantly decrease the noise from the fan - which as others have commented, will drive you crazy. All the best!