Boy I hate Zombie’s Halloween 2 but I’d be lying if I said that the hospital scene wasn’t one of my favorite scenes from any movie in this entire franchise.
Laurie stabbed Mike twice and made sure the kids were safe until Loomis showed up to do his job. She was not weak in the first movie, and she was drugged up and still survived in 2. She was just at her peak in h20. That was just a hot take.
Let me know if they already exist but I would LOVE to see you do a franchise hot takes video just like this but based on Child’s Play and Nightmare on Elm Street in the future. Considering those are your 2 favorite horror franchise’s, I think we’d get some very passionate and entertaining responses to some of the hot takes. It’d be an awesome watch
That dream sequence is why I hate the sequel. Not because it's bad or anything, but because of how good it was. I wanted that movie -- and I feel like making it a dream sequence cheapened everything we saw. I remember feeling like I got robbed when I watched the movie. Heh, Rob'd. Classic. Rest of the movie didn't live up to the promise that sequence gave us. I just can't get over it.
@Tenwaystospoildinner if the rest of the movie was like that, it could have been an amazing sequel and could have been top 3 overall imo. Rob just couldn't help himself though and apparently just HAD to make it his own against the fans wishes. He wanted the 1st movie to be completely childhood after all with it originally being called Halloween Begins. What I wouldn't give for a full movie like that sequence though
Haha wow thanks for reacting to my take! I’m not gonna lie I was shocked when I heard it 1:14:00 mins in not thinking I was gonna get called and then I got nervous I was gonna get roasted! 😂😂 Thanks for taking good amount of time you put into it, I stand by what I said Halloween 4 and H20 if you fix the mask situation…. Man would that elevate both those movies I love soooo much!
As far as next steps for the franchise, I think it would be cool to have Jamie Lloyd played by Danielle Harris living what appears to be a normal life with a family and kids and such. we find out that she is a Dexter type character who still has the urge to kill and sneaks murders. At the end of the first act, she botches one of the kills and is forced to set it up like Michael Myers has returned to cover her tracks. Then eventually the actual Michael Myers returns. It would be a direct sequel to part four and negate five and six and the whole thorn timeline.
If you remove Halloween Kills from existence (or at least from canon) and take out the few references to it in Halloween Ends, Halloween Ends is a much smoother transition. At the end of Halloween 2018, we (and the characters) are left thinking they’ve defeated Michael. So, it makes sense that if Michael did survive, he’d be in terrible physical shape and be forced to go into hiding. It would also explain why Laurie is now ready to move on with her life. Maybe Karen’s absence can be explained in that she just needed to move away after what happened in 2018. Having the final showdown between Laurie and Michael not happen until the last 15 minutes would also be explained in the fact that she presumed him dead until now. Halloween Ends would surely still have its issues, but I think several of them could be resolved or softened simply by erasing Halloween Kills entirely.
Thanks for reacting to my take, loved your thoughts on it! You nailed it on the head, it’s him being on the subtle side that isn’t my preference. I respect it as an aspect that makes him different, I’m just into the flare and personality of characters like Chucky and such. But great video as always! I was not expecting a late night drop and it was an awesome way to ring in Halloween 🤘 Shoutout to everyone else featured, loved hearing your opinions as well! We had some wild takes here 😂
I'd love to see you keep doing hot takes videos. Scream is definitely one I'd like to see. And maybe ones on remakes or genres or directors, as well as continuing any popular franchises. Love your channel.
@@StonayBalognahe ate a dog in the original. And it is implied (and I believe there is even a deleted scene) where it was implied he was eating rats and people in between kills and ends. He had to survive somehow.
The idea of Dr Sartain only having had theory and reference papers on Michael following Loomis' passing and wanting to see Myers in action (as a practical experiment) is a sound one that could have been explored well, but they went about it in such a ham-fisted way that any potential was lost.
I'm sorry I missed this, haha. However, my hot take would've been that Laurie Strode is a weak final girl as well. She's a fine character and I don't dislike her, but when you put her up against Sydney Prescott, Nancy Thompson, Ginny (F13)...she didn't do a lot of fighting back. With the exception of the needle in the neck, she did a lot of running and hiding. Also, 100% agree that Alice is a terrible final girl...She ranks last for me in that franchise. People also need to realize that those who didn't go through the moments as they were moments wont understand WHY they were moments. We are used to twist endings now but when Sixth Sense and Saw came out...that was a whole new experience. Its was the same way when my grandma showed me Psycho. That movie scared her to death. For me, who was already knee deep into slashers...it didnt scare me a bit. However in the 60s when that came out, no one had seen anything like it. Our horror history just needs to be respected, even if its not loved. I don't like TCM, but I get WHY its important to horror history. I still wish that at the end of Ends we would've seen the Silver Shamrock on Michael's mask. They had thrown everything else at the wall. Why not that? LOL
25:18 Gone With the Wind does have a sequel, it’s called Scarlet! My grandmother is a super fan of the movies so I grew up watching them. Scarlet doesn’t have many of the same cast (as a lot of them passed sway before filming) but it’s still a pretty good movie if you like Gone With the Wind!
As a certified H20 hater, I truly don't understand why that one gets as much love as it does. But different strokes for different folks as the kids say. Also, I think going with Jamie as the new Michael, per the ending of 4,would have stunk, and I'm glad they didn't go that route.
I will always love Halloween 5 because of the laundry chute scene, it's one of my favorite horror movie scenes of all time. I remember being on the edge of my seat the first time I watched that scene.
Halloween Ends sucks because of where it is in the timeline.. If they would have ended Michael properly and then made a 4th movie where everyone thinks Michael came back and there was a Roy Burns style twist with Cory Cunningham, it would have been beloved and some people would be calling Cory their favorite over Michael. Not MOST people, but some.
I agree with you that it was misplaced, but not with your proposed placement. I think it would have been best as a spinoff from the trilogy that takes place somewhere in between the first and last entries, but if it had to be part of the trilogy, I would have made it the middle and changed a LOT of things, like Michael being weakened and Laurie becoming Martha Stewart all of a sudden. It wasn't a bad idea necessarily, but when it's meant to be the finale to over 40 years of build-up and the main antagonist is absent/not up to his usual standard for most of the movie, and the big final battle promised in the ads feels like more of an afterthought, it does leave one feeling a bit cheated, for sure.
@shredmaster2009 I wouldn't have put Michale and Cory in the same movie at all. I think a bait and switch would have been what made it different. Like Cory somehow got ahold of the mask, and everyone thinks Michael is back. I'm not sure if WHEN the movie took place would effect how well it works though. In the middle of the series would absolutely work because fans are expecting Michael to return anyway and eventually he would, but in a later movie. I think for me being after Michael died works better because it would still hint at Michael being supernatural only to reveal it's not Michael under the mask at all and he's been dead since the third movie. Both movies would work, but I don't think Michael and Cory should have been in the same movie unless it had Cory playing imposter the entire time and then the real Michael shows up after the reveal and just starts killing everyone including Cory. Weakening Michael to the point that he was literally pathetic and having him train Cory Batman and Robin style was Halloween 5 levels af trash writing. In some ways it was even worse as Halloween 5 at the very least still respected Michale Myers you take Michael out of the movie all together it could have been a nice stand alone movie.
JLC earned her "The Final Girl" status due to her roles as the final girl in Halloween 1 and 2, Prom Night, The Fog, Terror Train, etc. I think she was great in Halloween 1 and 2 because she embodied what the final girl should be: innocent but smart and rising to the occasion and even sought danger and took charge. I think of her roles with Loomis were more of a tag team. But, I could see and argue that Nancy and Jinny were "better" final girls overall but Laurie is definitely top 5.
My autistic ass self could not handle the anthology idea coming to fruition. Michael Myers is one of my biggest hyper fixation and fucking with him gives me huge meltdowns im not even joking. I was in tears watching the last five minutes of Ends i was so angry
do a playlist/series of hot takes for the horror franchises! hit all the big ones. Childs play, FT13th, nightmare on elm street, scream, alien and saw! can even sprinkle in some of the more recent franchises
Ha! Thanks for reacting to my take, man. Definitely knew I was taking it too far, but I needed to add an additional layer of controversy. Just to dig the knife deeper, justice for Alice: the OG beheader!
One that people don't seem to bring up all the time is for a franchise called Halloween is there's not too much focus on the Halloween season. Yes it's there but it's more of a set decoration. I hoped with a higher budgets there would be more put into it but it doesn't get much focus.
Halloween Resurrection could’ve been decent if Laurie had lost an epic battle to Michael in H20! That would’ve been a gut punch if he had got her right at the end of H20 but don’t get me wrong I love the H20 we got
Saved this to listen to while I get ready to go out trick or treating with my nieces and nephews! Love I get to live the childhood joy of Halloween all over again!
Dude i have never been able to describe it.. but Dick Warlocks performance is one of creepiest in the whole franchise. Maybe its the 80's synth score with it but the robotic vibe creeps me out
Adding to your points on Resurrection and why it’s hated, H20 ended the franchise perfectly, and Resurrection just craps all over that for a cash in that isn’t worth watching. The thing with the H4 mask is that the actual mask was good but they for some reason made it pink and didn’t have time to get a new one so they painted it white and in doing so removed all the detail.
Keep up the great work Cody, I don’t really like reviewers or just channels that are “critics”, but you & WWAM are definitely my favorite UA-camrs in general
9:00 disagree about Laurie being a weak final girl, but I'd like to toss an underrated one out there from this very series: Rachel from part 4. I guess it didn't help that they did her dirty with the sequels, but I always really liked her in that one.
9:33 definitely agree with the weak final girl comment… which is why I put Sidney over her bc even though she wasn’t as tough in the first Scream in comparison to the later films… Sidney brought the fight to the killer. Laurie was basically just a victim that needed to be saved by Loomis.
I 100% agree with the part where you said that people need to stop saying objectively movies are better than others. It is subjective for sure. Movies are art and entertainment a persons opinion and how they interpret what they see is subjective. People watch movies for many different reasons. I for instance watch movies for entertainment. Some watch to criticize, some watch to experience a story, some to see the technical aspects. I don’t think 1978 is the best in the series but thats my subjective opinion. A movie experience is unique to each person.
I would love to see there be a Halloween series of movies coming out that is about Michael Myers running around killing people and then have running alongside the movies is a Halloween TV show that is still linked to the Halloween movies but is an anthology series with no Michael Myers. An eight episode series of spooky Halloween tales that are thematically tied to the Myers films and has some subtle links to the current running timeline like having a character or two from those films pop up or having the tv series set in Haddonfield but not be about Myers killing dudes. It would give the fans something to watch in between the films and if they don’t like that there is no Myers stuff going on then they can simply not watch it and just watch the Myers films that would be coming out because the films wouldn’t require you to watch the show.
Regarding horror remakes, I wrote an article in 2010 (to coincide with the Elm Street remake) called "Why the current trend for horror remakes should be encouraged, not shunned" and basically summed it up as the modern age's version of hearing a story around the campfire in medieval times, then going back to your clan and retelling the story to your people, but with embellishments and tweaks, while a visitor to your village listens on before heading back to HIS clan to tell his version of the story, and so on and so on. Horror cinema, especially classic horror cinema worked in cycles. Universal did the monster movies in the 30's for Dracula, Frankenstein, The Wolf Man, and The Mummy. These characters were recycled in the 50's to the 70's with Hammer Studios, the 80's had their versions, the 90's really went for it with Dracula, Frankenstein, The Wolf Man and The Mummy again getting big-budget high-profile releases. We are now in the era where the characters created in the 70's and 80's (Michael, Freddy, Jason, Leatherface, Pinhead, etc) are now the classics being retold for the current generation's campfires. It keeps these characters alive and will spike interest in the originals to boot. Don’t hate the remake culture, embrace it, cherish it. It’s been around for almost as long cinema itself and it’ll still be around long beyond the time we reach the afterlife. Take them for what they are; updates of old stories, created to introduce classic characters for a new generation to be scared.
I like the story of Halloween Ends, I think if it was a story told in the first film of the trilogy instead of the final, it would have been more interesting
Nah, I think the idea of Michael infecting someone else with his evil is unique and could work. Just not the way they did it and decided to execute it. They chose the complete wrong direction to do it. Hell, even Rob Zombies Halloween 2 did a less exaggerated/ more realistic approach. It wasn’t exactly evil that passed onto Laurie, but forcing her to survive and kill him. Mentally screwed her up and turned her into some grunge metal head. 😂 more align with PTSD changing her to someone she never was and injecting a bit of evil into her. Before she effectively turned evil depending on the cut you watch.
@@x-ScaryBerry-xYes, she did lmao. I also like Ends, but I will say the execution of the idea in 4 was better. However, it wasn’t really “the evil infecting him” in Ends so much as an emotionally beaten & mentally broken man coming face to face with an extreme/kindred spirit and realizing that there was a way he could get back at everyone who wronged him
@@famousthaneus9810it was Christine copy and pasted under the Halloween IP. Michael/his mask is the car. It’s lazy and schlocky. David Green admitted that Corey is a self-insert of himself and the movie is shallow in its dissection of evil. It’s overly self indulgent, almost pretentious, & poorly executed. Halloween 4 will forever be superior to Ends. The aspect of Jamie becoming like Michael after surviving the entire night weighs far heavier than anything shown in Ends. That and her transference/snapping point is done so much more respectfully to the ambiguous nature behind what drives Michael - that was meticulously constructed in the original movie. 2018 & Kills are more respectful to the original than Ends. Ends new how much of divergence it was going to be that’s why it has the blue Halloween 3 font for it’s title cards and credits. The novelization for Halloween Ends is exactly what should’ve been filmed because there is far more going on and a lot of connective tissue between Halloween Kills & Ends. More insight to the survivors, the aftermath, Laurie & Allyson’s own individual mental health struggles, the state of the town. The actual film is in the bottom 5 of the franchise for me.
100%. I've always said the Cory story wasn't bad, it just wasn't good for the ending of a trilogy. Especially when we followed Cory throughout the movie, but for him to be killed at the end & everything to be turned back to Laurie & Michael. It just seemed like 2 different movies were stitched together.
A good example of the remake debate is the 2001 Ocean's Eleven. I saw it at like 12 or 13 and loved it and still do. It's one of the most visually kinetic and best written movies I've ever seen. The 1960s original is fine for what it is but I do not connect with it at all, which would sound blasphemous to people alive in the 60s when the Rat Pack was at its peak. The point is, it's fine if you like one more than the other: everyone's viewpoint on film is different.
Think it’s just due to the fact that it’s more scary to just have an emotionless husk killing randomly. Having them siblings is less scary but more story driven.
@christophergzimbelman9977 I agree, a motiveless killer is always scarier, but as far as Michael goes, because he killed Judith, he always had a sibling motive, even if Halloween never had any sequels, there always was a sibling motive, to me anyway. Halloween 2 just gave him another sibling to kill
I was an 80's kid, so I have plenty of nostalgia for both. But I've always thought that as far as iconic final girls go, Nancy Thompson runs circles around Laurie Strode.
Imagine a Halloween reboot that introduces Laurie as a seemingly main character, only to kill her off halfway through the film like Psycho. Hope to see a Friday the 13th hot takes video at some point. I have one that I really want to know your thoughts on, seeing as you're someone who doesn't seem to like most of the franchise.
I like Laurie Strode in Halloween 1 and 2 but yeah I agree with the statement that she was nothing more than a survivor in those two films. Now Sidney Prescott that’s an awesome final girl probably my favourite final girl
Ooooh this is gonna be fun Halloween viewing! Thanks Cody 😂 The reason we will NEVER get a new Nightmare On Elm Street is because of all the Freddy fanboys complaining at the thought of ANYONE other than Robert Englund in the role. So annoying! I love Englund but c’mon…dudes old now and I’m willing to try a new guy if it means we get another movie
True. Just how much hate from hardcore friends the Reboot got just because of JEH being Freddy instead of Robert E, it's crazy. The movie might have it's problems (bad CGI in some scenes, cutting cool scenes out of the movie (like Freddy as Kris fooling Nancy, the church scene,...), Rooney's performance), but JEH definitely wasn't one of them.
14:26 the sibling angle is what keeps that trilogy from being my headcanon. I hate that idea, so I have to go with the original and the first David Green film as my personal canon. This may be a stretch, but I like to view the ending shots as a comment on generational trauma and trauma in general. Michael is gone and grandma, mom, and daughter are safe together, but still Allison is holding onto that bloody knife, unable to let go just like she criticized Laurie for earlier in the film. They’re alive, but they’ll all be carrying that trauma for the rest of their lives, and if Allison is not careful, she’ll pass it on to her children too.
I'd like to see a ranking of the scariest versions of Michael Myers. For me 6 is the scariest because he's still a smaller dude but has insane strength and moves much more aggressively.
01:08:25 Oh hey, it me. That's a fair response. I'm sure you and many others hold the OG Halloween in a warmer place than I. I just remember my first ever viewing ending with me being like, "...Okay." xD I think you phrased what I was trying to articulate better regarding Halloween as a franchise "ending." Perhaps a better way of phrasing it on my part would have been the Laurie Strode line should have ended at H20.
Please dear GOD tell me the people that say they enjoy Halloween Kills are just trolling. Im not even a huge Halloween fan in general, but I know a dumpster fire when I see one
I’ve been waiting for this since you announced it last week/asked for our hot takes. I don’t even know if you check your dms but I basically wrote you an essay on some of my hot takes on the franchise. 😂 keep up the amazing work my friend!
Im finishing this up... I think if you had put the back half of Halloween Ends with the battle between Laurie and Michael in the beginning and then done a time jump and introduced Cory...they may have done better and set themselves up for more movies. The coloring and sharpness of H20 feels different, but to me its still the best ending to a timeline
On the contrary, I would LOVE to be in charge of the franchise moving forward lol. I do agree with the hot take, whether we explore established lore or reimagine the character.
I'll always have a soft spot for halloween 6, it was the first halloween movie i watched at 5 or 6 years old, and i still vividly remember a nightmare i had about halloween 6.
I’ve been waiting for this video! I hope I made it in. I did make it into this video, I would elaborate and explain my take on it, but I’m not writing a novel in the comments, also I’m glad you like where I was going with that!
Off topic question, kinda. Do you think if ‘The Burning’ had a lot of sequels like ‘Halloween’, we would see all these masks and merch like ‘Halloween’? I love ‘The Burning’ but it never gets enough love.
This just doesn't apply to Halloween but movie franchises in general I don't believe you have to see every movie in a franchise to be considered a fan of said franchise
Disagree. That’s like saying you can only be a fan of a game if you’ve never played all of them or a tv series if you’ve never seen every single episode. Being someone who has seen every Halloween film I tell people all the time to skip some unless they truly just want to see the entire series.
@@christophergzimbelman9977I don’t understand why you disagree. You can be a fan of something and not see all of them. I am a fan of SpongeBob but have not seen every single episode I don’t need to. I am a fan of a ton of game franchises and I have only played one or two games in the series. I am confused by your statement.
I have a hot take for Nightmare on Elms Street... "We shouldn't of found out who Freddy was til the sequel. Sometimes I find it scarier being left unknown, he's just this mysterious boogeyman who's after us and we don't know why.. I mean that's honestly terrifying."
Except freddy isn't real in the original nightmare. Hes a made up monster Nancy put together from her feelings over her parents divorce. Thats why freddys sweater comes from Glen's car. It was all.a dream. That changed when robert shay made craven change the ending. Freddy was always meant to be a 1 and done
@@MM-hf6omwtf, are you just making that bs up? I’m genuinely curious. How do you explain Johnny depp turning into a blood explosion as “part of a hallucination”
@ChrisThomson-y7l none of that was real originally. That was why Freddy dispersed at the end. But robert shay hated the idea of the whole movie being a dream and made wes change it. Thats why wes wouldn't come back for nightmare 2 . He was mad shay made him change his " vision "
@ while the ending Bob Shay made him create absolutely sucks. The whole movie being a dream would not have done well. Unless your name is Inception, what movie has ever been improved by everything being in a dream? I can kinda see how you could do it as a figment of her psyche but you get my point
I'm sorta creeped out because I had a thought about doing a Halloween hot takes video and like a minute later, got the notification for this video 😂 I guess my hot take would be Halloween 3 is one of the better sequels lol keep up the good work Cody!
I’m not here to cheer for the new trilogy, there is way more disappointment in them for me than approval, but the more I have thought about it the more I may agree that it was a planned storyline. The Gordon Green trilogy is an inverted remake of the OG three films. Like John Carpenter’s Halloween, Halloween (2018) has an escaped mental patient return home but instead of stalking Laurie, she flips the script on him. Also, instead of the doctor being here to help, he’s actually a force for evil, too. Halloween Kills, like Halloween II, features a hospital heavily in its plot and Laurie is mostly relegated to inaction, but the inversion has a mob of people face the killer rather than a final girl. And finally, Halloween Ends, like Season of the Witch, is not a Michael Myers film and if you took that element out of it, it would still stand as its own thing. However, unlike Season, Ends shoehorns in the Michael/Laurie dynamic into a movie that is not about Laurie and Michael. There you have it. The Gordon Green trilogy is an inverted remake of the OG three films.
25:00 I actually agree that it would be forgotten. Maybe not entirely (it’s impact was too big), but it would not be as regarded as it is and I actually think people would be picking it apart in the same ways that they pick apart the sequels
I do not know if these are hot takes myself but here are my takes on the Halloween movies. 1. The David Gordon green trilogy is the worst trilogy. 2. For how a serial killer is created, Rob Z timeline is the most realistic. 3. Halloween III season of the witch bored me. 4. I would have preferred Danielle Harris as Laurie's daughter in the DGGT along with Josh. 5. I Like H8- Resurrection.
I think Danielle Harris may have been considered but ig they didn’t want to confuse people (more casual fans). Paul Rudd was considered to return as Tommy (like how he was in 6) but he had ghostbusters afterlife
@@ChrisThomson-y7lshe would have been awesome. Let's be honest H2018 was just a compilation of all the best parts of the series. The original story they used was awful. Did they get everything wrong? No. So there are things I liked about it. 1. The score, the music in 2018 was awesome. The best score for so long. 2. The atmosphere, one thing that most of the series suffers from is the lack of atmosphere. 3. The Michael Myers. But for me, the rest of the aspects for me it fails massively. The biggest is being the Laurie character.
Not a fan of the Dr. Sartain twist, though I can say that it gives an explanation as to how he escaped in 2018, as we do see Sartain sit behind the bus security and he is waiting in the bus when Hawkins shows up on scene. I am kind of excusing the twist. Would have been cool if they might went somewhere with it though. Then maybe I could get behind the twist.
I respect your opinion, but there is one thing I can’t let slide lol. “Lori strode was a weak final girl until H20” so I guess running on broken ankles, protecting two kids, fighting off Mr. Instant Kill successfully multiple times. Being beaten injured and MEDICATED to the point of barely being conscious and still being smart enough and strong enough to evade MICHAEL MYERS and escaping by putting two bullets in his head just doesn’t count. I don’t understand this take at all. I mean I like Alice and Ginny (though I think Lorie is far better written than Alice) But considering Alice is an admitted clone of Lorie Strode and Ginny I think is about on par with her with that child psychology she was majoring in. I think the OG Halloween is a touch overrated but I think this is a step too far. Note that this comment is not supposed to be hate for you or the comment section. I like using animated language which can get misconstrued when it’s just text. This is meant to be the tone I’d argue over a movie with my friends in, not a “You’re stupid and you should feel Stupid” thing. Love the video. Happy Halloween! Edit: I also just binged the whole franchise so this came out at the perfect time 👍
Tonight for Halloween, I'm watching Halloween (1978) and Halloween 2 (1981). Cody mentioned how H20 makes a terrible mistake of showing his eyes. I'm just noticing tonight after countless times of watching H2 that they show Myers' eyes in that film a well. Sometimes, they black out his eyes but not consistently.
Here we go with my Cody Drinking Game. I take a shot of Vodka every time Cody says "low hanging fruit" or "carnage candy". Wish me luck, guys.
i would join you if this video wasn’t an hour and a half, a trip to the hospital is not in the cards for me tn lmaoooo… good luck tho!
😂😂😂😂 my guy Cody lol
What about “ad nauseum”??
Also "I know I'm on an island with that one."
lmaooo
Thanks for reacting to my take!
What was yours
Which one is your take
@@garyschwart the very first one
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I was just thinking today that Laurie said Dr. Sartain is the "new" Loomis in Halloween 2018, but there is new replacing Loomis. He is iconic.
"There's no objectivity in film or in art in general. It's all subjectivity. "
Yes, Cody, this is what we like to see!!!!!
Boy I hate Zombie’s Halloween 2 but I’d be lying if I said that the hospital scene wasn’t one of my favorite scenes from any movie in this entire franchise.
agreed!!! hate that movie, love that sequence
Rob zombie’s H2 is wonderful compared to the atrocity that is Ends
@ that’s like comparing Kidney stones to a car wreck I don’t want either lol
There's only one direction to take with Michael... Halloween... IN SPACE!!! 🔪👽
Please,Lay Off The Drugs.Nuff Said.
Everything is better in space
@RobertParks-h7r You'd watch it and you know it.
@squarepickle.NOPE.NUFF SAID.
We take it to the last place corrupted by capitalism........ space - tim curry
Halloween Kills is the photo negative of RZH2. Kills is great if you skip the hospital, RZH2 is great if you stay in the hospital.
Laurie stabbed Mike twice and made sure the kids were safe until Loomis showed up to do his job. She was not weak in the first movie, and she was drugged up and still survived in 2. She was just at her peak in h20. That was just a hot take.
Let me know if they already exist but I would LOVE to see you do a franchise hot takes video just like this but based on Child’s Play and Nightmare on Elm Street in the future. Considering those are your 2 favorite horror franchise’s, I think we’d get some very passionate and entertaining responses to some of the hot takes. It’d be an awesome watch
No he’s only done Halloween
Please do HOT TAKES on the Nightmare on Elm Street & Scream series next! I have so many on both.
The Zombie Halloween 2 opening dream sequence IS amazing and absolutely fucking brutal.
Can't stand dream sequences. Such a cheap tactic
That dream sequence is why I hate the sequel. Not because it's bad or anything, but because of how good it was. I wanted that movie -- and I feel like making it a dream sequence cheapened everything we saw. I remember feeling like I got robbed when I watched the movie. Heh, Rob'd. Classic.
Rest of the movie didn't live up to the promise that sequence gave us. I just can't get over it.
@Tenwaystospoildinner if the rest of the movie was like that, it could have been an amazing sequel and could have been top 3 overall imo. Rob just couldn't help himself though and apparently just HAD to make it his own against the fans wishes. He wanted the 1st movie to be completely childhood after all with it originally being called Halloween Begins. What I wouldn't give for a full movie like that sequence though
i prefer the hospital scene
Hell, just the guard shack scenes alone are some of the best in the entire franchise.
Alice cuts off Mrs. Voorhees head and goes in hand to hand combat with her!!! Pretty badass if you ask me!!
Haha wow thanks for reacting to my take! I’m not gonna lie I was shocked when I heard it 1:14:00 mins in not thinking I was gonna get called and then I got nervous I was gonna get roasted! 😂😂
Thanks for taking good amount of time you put into it,
I stand by what I said Halloween 4 and H20 if you fix the mask situation…. Man would that elevate both those movies I love soooo much!
Shit you put a better mask on Myers is Halloween 5 that shit would be flames minus the cop scenes with the goofy music
@ yeah I think Halloween 5 has the worst mask actually, I talk about that in my video where I react to this video
I'd love you to keep doing hot take vids!
As far as next steps for the franchise, I think it would be cool to have Jamie Lloyd played by Danielle Harris living what appears to be a normal life with a family and kids and such. we find out that she is a Dexter type character who still has the urge to kill and sneaks murders. At the end of the first act, she botches one of the kills and is forced to set it up like Michael Myers has returned to cover her tracks. Then eventually the actual Michael Myers returns. It would be a direct sequel to part four and negate five and six and the whole thorn timeline.
If you remove Halloween Kills from existence (or at least from canon) and take out the few references to it in Halloween Ends, Halloween Ends is a much smoother transition.
At the end of Halloween 2018, we (and the characters) are left thinking they’ve defeated Michael. So, it makes sense that if Michael did survive, he’d be in terrible physical shape and be forced to go into hiding. It would also explain why Laurie is now ready to move on with her life. Maybe Karen’s absence can be explained in that she just needed to move away after what happened in 2018. Having the final showdown between Laurie and Michael not happen until the last 15 minutes would also be explained in the fact that she presumed him dead until now.
Halloween Ends would surely still have its issues, but I think several of them could be resolved or softened simply by erasing Halloween Kills entirely.
Almost as much time as a feature length movie! Shit we eating good tonight
Cody Leach always cooking 🍿
@@Stefan_Gerardsexcept when it comes to Rob Zombie H2
Helluva way to kick off the first few hours of Halloween 2024
Gotta see a Nightmare hot takes vid, loving these
Thanks for reacting to my take, loved your thoughts on it! You nailed it on the head, it’s him being on the subtle side that isn’t my preference. I respect it as an aspect that makes him different, I’m just into the flare and personality of characters like Chucky and such.
But great video as always! I was not expecting a late night drop and it was an awesome way to ring in Halloween 🤘
Shoutout to everyone else featured, loved hearing your opinions as well! We had some wild takes here 😂
Halloween 4 would be even better if the mask was better but overall I really love it
I'd love to see you keep doing hot takes videos. Scream is definitely one I'd like to see. And maybe ones on remakes or genres or directors, as well as continuing any popular franchises. Love your channel.
At least Michael doesn't have a appetite to eat dogs and rats no more when he gets hungry lol.
Was that only in resurrection or did he do it in other films as well?
@@StonayBalognahe ate a dog in the original. And it is implied (and I believe there is even a deleted scene) where it was implied he was eating rats and people in between kills and ends. He had to survive somehow.
@@T_R_O_Y_McClurealso in RZ halloween 2 he eats a dog
I'm sorry, all I hear when I read your comment was 'they're eating DOGS'😂
The dude was seeing rainbows and unicorns 😂😂 then he talked at the end rob zombies Halloween 2 was trash the first one was better
The idea of Dr Sartain only having had theory and reference papers on Michael following Loomis' passing and wanting to see Myers in action (as a practical experiment) is a sound one that could have been explored well, but they went about it in such a ham-fisted way that any potential was lost.
I'm sorry I missed this, haha. However, my hot take would've been that Laurie Strode is a weak final girl as well. She's a fine character and I don't dislike her, but when you put her up against Sydney Prescott, Nancy Thompson, Ginny (F13)...she didn't do a lot of fighting back. With the exception of the needle in the neck, she did a lot of running and hiding.
Also, 100% agree that Alice is a terrible final girl...She ranks last for me in that franchise.
People also need to realize that those who didn't go through the moments as they were moments wont understand WHY they were moments. We are used to twist endings now but when Sixth Sense and Saw came out...that was a whole new experience. Its was the same way when my grandma showed me Psycho. That movie scared her to death. For me, who was already knee deep into slashers...it didnt scare me a bit. However in the 60s when that came out, no one had seen anything like it. Our horror history just needs to be respected, even if its not loved. I don't like TCM, but I get WHY its important to horror history.
I still wish that at the end of Ends we would've seen the Silver Shamrock on Michael's mask. They had thrown everything else at the wall. Why not that? LOL
Your more recent editing style with adding in funny internet clips has me dying 🤣
I gotta hot take for you , Halloween kills would be the second best halloween in the series if they took the “evil dies tonight shit”
25:18 Gone With the Wind does have a sequel, it’s called Scarlet! My grandmother is a super fan of the movies so I grew up watching them. Scarlet doesn’t have many of the same cast (as a lot of them passed sway before filming) but it’s still a pretty good movie if you like Gone With the Wind!
As a certified H20 hater, I truly don't understand why that one gets as much love as it does. But different strokes for different folks as the kids say.
Also, I think going with Jamie as the new Michael, per the ending of 4,would have stunk, and I'm glad they didn't go that route.
It has not aged well. A Lifetime version of Halloween.
Cody thanks for your mini take on the word objectively used in film discussion. Drives me nuts!
CODY LEACH,YOU ARE IN MY TOP 4 OF DAILY,WEEKLY HORROR YOU TUBE CHANNELS.DEAD MEAT,GHOST PIRATE,MIKE BRACKEN.NUFF SAID.
I will always love Halloween 5 because of the laundry chute scene, it's one of my favorite horror movie scenes of all time. I remember being on the edge of my seat the first time I watched that scene.
Halloween Ends sucks because of where it is in the timeline.. If they would have ended Michael properly and then made a 4th movie where everyone thinks Michael came back and there was a Roy Burns style twist with Cory Cunningham, it would have been beloved and some people would be calling Cory their favorite over Michael. Not MOST people, but some.
I agree with you that it was misplaced, but not with your proposed placement. I think it would have been best as a spinoff from the trilogy that takes place somewhere in between the first and last entries, but if it had to be part of the trilogy, I would have made it the middle and changed a LOT of things, like Michael being weakened and Laurie becoming Martha Stewart all of a sudden. It wasn't a bad idea necessarily, but when it's meant to be the finale to over 40 years of build-up and the main antagonist is absent/not up to his usual standard for most of the movie, and the big final battle promised in the ads feels like more of an afterthought, it does leave one feeling a bit cheated, for sure.
@shredmaster2009 I wouldn't have put Michale and Cory in the same movie at all. I think a bait and switch would have been what made it different. Like Cory somehow got ahold of the mask, and everyone thinks Michael is back. I'm not sure if WHEN the movie took place would effect how well it works though. In the middle of the series would absolutely work because fans are expecting Michael to return anyway and eventually he would, but in a later movie. I think for me being after Michael died works better because it would still hint at Michael being supernatural only to reveal it's not Michael under the mask at all and he's been dead since the third movie. Both movies would work, but I don't think Michael and Cory should have been in the same movie unless it had Cory playing imposter the entire time and then the real Michael shows up after the reveal and just starts killing everyone including Cory. Weakening Michael to the point that he was literally pathetic and having him train Cory Batman and Robin style was Halloween 5 levels af trash writing. In some ways it was even worse as Halloween 5 at the very least still respected Michale Myers you take Michael out of the movie all together it could have been a nice stand alone movie.
You should do hot takes for the Friday the 13th franchise (it’s my favorite of the 80’s slasher franchises)
Yeah, me too. I, too, got some hot takes of my own from that franchise. Lol
Keep it up, Cody. I absolutely love these longer videos every once in a while.
JLC earned her "The Final Girl" status due to her roles as the final girl in Halloween 1 and 2, Prom Night, The Fog, Terror Train, etc. I think she was great in Halloween 1 and 2 because she embodied what the final girl should be: innocent but smart and rising to the occasion and even sought danger and took charge. I think of her roles with Loomis were more of a tag team. But, I could see and argue that Nancy and Jinny were "better" final girls overall but Laurie is definitely top 5.
My autistic ass self could not handle the anthology idea coming to fruition. Michael Myers is one of my biggest hyper fixation and fucking with him gives me huge meltdowns im not even joking. I was in tears watching the last five minutes of Ends i was so angry
Travesty of an ending. Evil should have won.
do a playlist/series of hot takes for the horror franchises! hit all the big ones. Childs play, FT13th, nightmare on elm street, scream, alien and saw! can even sprinkle in some of the more recent franchises
Ha! Thanks for reacting to my take, man. Definitely knew I was taking it too far, but I needed to add an additional layer of controversy. Just to dig the knife deeper, justice for Alice: the OG beheader!
Idk about you guys but I want to see a Michael Vs Jason movie with Derek mears as Jason and Tyler Mane as Michael.
How about James Jude Courtney as Michael and Kane Hodder as Jason?
@Darth_Cornpop that would be interesting to watch
If Ted white was alive and dick warlock was younger I’d want Ted white Jason vs dick warlock Michael
I'd live to see a series of Jason and Michael movies build to that, playing off both their similarities and differences.
One that people don't seem to bring up all the time is for a franchise called Halloween is there's not too much focus on the Halloween season. Yes it's there but it's more of a set decoration. I hoped with a higher budgets there would be more put into it but it doesn't get much focus.
Happy Halloween Cody 🎃! Love the hot take vids! Been waiting for a new one lol
Sledgehammer Horror came in shooting 😭😭😭😭
holy lol
Cody knows we need this for more franchises lol
Halloween Resurrection could’ve been decent if Laurie had lost an epic battle to Michael in H20! That would’ve been a gut punch if he had got her right at the end of H20 but don’t get me wrong I love the H20 we got
Saved this to listen to while I get ready to go out trick or treating with my nieces and nephews! Love I get to live the childhood joy of Halloween all over again!
Dude i have never been able to describe it.. but Dick Warlocks performance is one of creepiest in the whole franchise. Maybe its the 80's synth score with it but the robotic vibe creeps me out
If you're wanting to do this for more franchises, you could do one of these for Friday the 13th on the Friday the 13th in December.
I think he will
Adding to your points on Resurrection and why it’s hated, H20 ended the franchise perfectly, and Resurrection just craps all over that for a cash in that isn’t worth watching.
The thing with the H4 mask is that the actual mask was good but they for some reason made it pink and didn’t have time to get a new one so they painted it white and in doing so removed all the detail.
Keep up the great work Cody, I don’t really like reviewers or just channels that are “critics”, but you & WWAM are definitely my favorite UA-camrs in general
9:00 disagree about Laurie being a weak final girl, but I'd like to toss an underrated one out there from this very series: Rachel from part 4. I guess it didn't help that they did her dirty with the sequels, but I always really liked her in that one.
I think the next "Hot Take" should be the Terrifier franchise since its the IT thing right now.
9:33 definitely agree with the weak final girl comment… which is why I put Sidney over her bc even though she wasn’t as tough in the first Scream in comparison to the later films… Sidney brought the fight to the killer. Laurie was basically just a victim that needed to be saved by Loomis.
I 100% agree with the part where you said that people need to stop saying objectively movies are better than others. It is subjective for sure. Movies are art and entertainment a persons opinion and how they interpret what they see is subjective. People watch movies for many different reasons. I for instance watch movies for entertainment. Some watch to criticize, some watch to experience a story, some to see the technical aspects. I don’t think 1978 is the best in the series but thats my subjective opinion. A movie experience is unique to each person.
I would love to see there be a Halloween series of movies coming out that is about Michael Myers running around killing people and then have running alongside the movies is a Halloween TV show that is still linked to the Halloween movies but is an anthology series with no Michael Myers. An eight episode series of spooky Halloween tales that are thematically tied to the Myers films and has some subtle links to the current running timeline like having a character or two from those films pop up or having the tv series set in Haddonfield but not be about Myers killing dudes. It would give the fans something to watch in between the films and if they don’t like that there is no Myers stuff going on then they can simply not watch it and just watch the Myers films that would be coming out because the films wouldn’t require you to watch the show.
Regarding horror remakes, I wrote an article in 2010 (to coincide with the Elm Street remake) called "Why the current trend for horror remakes should be encouraged, not shunned" and basically summed it up as the modern age's version of hearing a story around the campfire in medieval times, then going back to your clan and retelling the story to your people, but with embellishments and tweaks, while a visitor to your village listens on before heading back to HIS clan to tell his version of the story, and so on and so on.
Horror cinema, especially classic horror cinema worked in cycles. Universal did the monster movies in the 30's for Dracula, Frankenstein, The Wolf Man, and The Mummy. These characters were recycled in the 50's to the 70's with Hammer Studios, the 80's had their versions, the 90's really went for it with Dracula, Frankenstein, The Wolf Man and The Mummy again getting big-budget high-profile releases.
We are now in the era where the characters created in the 70's and 80's (Michael, Freddy, Jason, Leatherface, Pinhead, etc) are now the classics being retold for the current generation's campfires. It keeps these characters alive and will spike interest in the originals to boot.
Don’t hate the remake culture, embrace it, cherish it. It’s been around for almost as long cinema itself and it’ll still be around long beyond the time we reach the afterlife. Take them for what they are; updates of old stories, created to introduce classic characters for a new generation to be scared.
Remakes should be encouraged, but also they need to make sure that the changes work on their own
I like the story of Halloween Ends, I think if it was a story told in the first film of the trilogy instead of the final, it would have been more interesting
Nah, I think the idea of Michael infecting someone else with his evil is unique and could work. Just not the way they did it and decided to execute it. They chose the complete wrong direction to do it. Hell, even Rob Zombies Halloween 2 did a less exaggerated/ more realistic approach. It wasn’t exactly evil that passed onto Laurie, but forcing her to survive and kill him. Mentally screwed her up and turned her into some grunge metal head. 😂 more align with PTSD changing her to someone she never was and injecting a bit of evil into her. Before she effectively turned evil depending on the cut you watch.
@@JoeGrizz1yDidn’t Jamie get infected by his evil in Halloween 4, going by the ending?
@@x-ScaryBerry-xYes, she did lmao. I also like Ends, but I will say the execution of the idea in 4 was better.
However, it wasn’t really “the evil infecting him” in Ends so much as an emotionally beaten & mentally broken man coming face to face with an extreme/kindred spirit and realizing that there was a way he could get back at everyone who wronged him
@@famousthaneus9810it was Christine copy and pasted under the Halloween IP. Michael/his mask is the car. It’s lazy and schlocky. David Green admitted that Corey is a self-insert of himself and the movie is shallow in its dissection of evil. It’s overly self indulgent, almost pretentious, & poorly executed.
Halloween 4 will forever be superior to Ends. The aspect of Jamie becoming like Michael after surviving the entire night weighs far heavier than anything shown in Ends. That and her transference/snapping point is done so much more respectfully to the ambiguous nature behind what drives Michael - that was meticulously constructed in the original movie. 2018 & Kills are more respectful to the original than Ends. Ends new how much of divergence it was going to be that’s why it has the blue Halloween 3 font for it’s title cards and credits. The novelization for Halloween Ends is exactly what should’ve been filmed because there is far more going on and a lot of connective tissue between Halloween Kills & Ends. More insight to the survivors, the aftermath, Laurie & Allyson’s own individual mental health struggles, the state of the town. The actual film is in the bottom 5 of the franchise for me.
100%. I've always said the Cory story wasn't bad, it just wasn't good for the ending of a trilogy. Especially when we followed Cory throughout the movie, but for him to be killed at the end & everything to be turned back to Laurie & Michael. It just seemed like 2 different movies were stitched together.
A good example of the remake debate is the 2001 Ocean's Eleven. I saw it at like 12 or 13 and loved it and still do. It's one of the most visually kinetic and best written movies I've ever seen. The 1960s original is fine for what it is but I do not connect with it at all, which would sound blasphemous to people alive in the 60s when the Rat Pack was at its peak. The point is, it's fine if you like one more than the other: everyone's viewpoint on film is different.
Glad you liked the idea of a CGI mask for halloween 4. It hurts my sould to suggest cgi. Really enjoyed the video. Some wild takes in here.
As a die hard F13 fan, I’d love to see a Friday the 13th hot takes reaction video!
I kinda am one to but I want you opinion on this. What do you think about the original?
I have a hot take: I have never understood why people don't like the sibling motive since he always had a sibling motive for killing Judith as a child
Think it’s just due to the fact that it’s more scary to just have an emotionless husk killing randomly.
Having them siblings is less scary but more story driven.
@christophergzimbelman9977 I agree, a motiveless killer is always scarier, but as far as Michael goes, because he killed Judith, he always had a sibling motive, even if Halloween never had any sequels, there always was a sibling motive, to me anyway. Halloween 2 just gave him another sibling to kill
I was an 80's kid, so I have plenty of nostalgia for both. But I've always thought that as far as iconic final girls go, Nancy Thompson runs circles around Laurie Strode.
Also an 80s kid, and I agree 100%. Much more depth. Laurie is pretty much one note.
So happy I found this channel this month.
Hot takes is really popular and i still havent grown tired of it lol I havent seen any horror themed hot take videos so really hoping you do more
Imagine a Halloween reboot that introduces Laurie as a seemingly main character, only to kill her off halfway through the film like Psycho.
Hope to see a Friday the 13th hot takes video at some point. I have one that I really want to know your thoughts on, seeing as you're someone who doesn't seem to like most of the franchise.
I like Laurie Strode in Halloween 1 and 2 but yeah I agree with the statement that she was nothing more than a survivor in those two films. Now Sidney Prescott that’s an awesome final girl probably my favourite final girl
Ooooh this is gonna be fun Halloween viewing! Thanks Cody 😂
The reason we will NEVER get a new Nightmare On Elm Street is because of all the Freddy fanboys complaining at the thought of ANYONE other than Robert Englund in the role. So annoying! I love Englund but c’mon…dudes old now and I’m willing to try a new guy if it means we get another movie
True. Just how much hate from hardcore friends the Reboot got just because of JEH being Freddy instead of Robert E, it's crazy. The movie might have it's problems (bad CGI in some scenes, cutting cool scenes out of the movie (like Freddy as Kris fooling Nancy, the church scene,...), Rooney's performance), but JEH definitely wasn't one of them.
Got to admit I found myself watching the Halloween 2018 to Halloween ends over last couple of nights and really enjoyed it
14:26 the sibling angle is what keeps that trilogy from being my headcanon. I hate that idea, so I have to go with the original and the first David Green film as my personal canon. This may be a stretch, but I like to view the ending shots as a comment on generational trauma and trauma in general. Michael is gone and grandma, mom, and daughter are safe together, but still Allison is holding onto that bloody knife, unable to let go just like she criticized Laurie for earlier in the film. They’re alive, but they’ll all be carrying that trauma for the rest of their lives, and if Allison is not careful, she’ll pass it on to her children too.
I was expecting to see a '3 months later' title card or something where she finds out she's pregnant with Cory's baby.
I'd like to see a ranking of the scariest versions of Michael Myers. For me 6 is the scariest because he's still a smaller dude but has insane strength and moves much more aggressively.
Agree. His presence and built alone made him scary. I wouldn't want to meet a guy looking like him in the dark. Bulky Myers is the scariest by far.
Great video as always. You should definitely do a Scream hot take version some time.
01:08:25 Oh hey, it me.
That's a fair response. I'm sure you and many others hold the OG Halloween in a warmer place than I. I just remember my first ever viewing ending with me being like, "...Okay." xD
I think you phrased what I was trying to articulate better regarding Halloween as a franchise "ending." Perhaps a better way of phrasing it on my part would have been the Laurie Strode line should have ended at H20.
Scream Hot Takes! My favorite franchise baaaaaby.
happy Halloween man 🎃🔪 would love to see more hot take videos like this in the future, be it Freddy, Chucky, Jason - anything!
My favorite halloween is 3, mostly because it’s the only one that actually fits the holiday to me
Please dear GOD tell me the people that say they enjoy Halloween Kills are just trolling. Im not even a huge Halloween fan in general, but I know a dumpster fire when I see one
Nope, I'm not trolling. It's my number one Halloween movie because I'm a Michael Myers fan.
I’ve been waiting for this since you announced it last week/asked for our hot takes. I don’t even know if you check your dms but I basically wrote you an essay on some of my hot takes on the franchise. 😂 keep up the amazing work my friend!
Not that it matters, but personally I feel the best final girls are Nancy, Sidney, and Sienna
Love the video Cody !!! Happy Halloween man ! Much respect
I'm so glad I made the cut.🔪😂 Happy Halloween, everybody! 🎃
Best scary movie is Halloween, the one that came out in 1978.
So are you going to do one for Nightmare and Friday ???
Im finishing this up...
I think if you had put the back half of Halloween Ends with the battle between Laurie and Michael in the beginning and then done a time jump and introduced Cory...they may have done better and set themselves up for more movies.
The coloring and sharpness of H20 feels different, but to me its still the best ending to a timeline
On the contrary, I would LOVE to be in charge of the franchise moving forward lol. I do agree with the hot take, whether we explore established lore or reimagine the character.
i do agree that ginny was more badass than laurie but yeah alice was weak chriss higgins is a person to put next to ginny.
I'll always have a soft spot for halloween 6, it was the first halloween movie i watched at 5 or 6 years old, and i still vividly remember a nightmare i had about halloween 6.
My only question is why were your parents allowing you to watch a Halloween movie, when you’re 5/6? 🙈 coming from a parent.
@ButterflySoul i watched it with my brother, while our mom was at work
59:32 someone talented, please do that! i'd pay to see H4 fan edit with original mask
I’ve been waiting for this video! I hope I made it in.
I did make it into this video, I would elaborate and explain my take on it, but I’m not writing a novel in the comments, also I’m glad you like where I was going with that!
Off topic question, kinda. Do you think if ‘The Burning’ had a lot of sequels like ‘Halloween’, we would see all these masks and merch like ‘Halloween’? I love ‘The Burning’ but it never gets enough love.
happy halloween cody! 🎃🔪
This just doesn't apply to Halloween but movie franchises in general I don't believe you have to see every movie in a franchise to be considered a fan of said franchise
Disagree. That’s like saying you can only be a fan of a game if you’ve never played all of them or a tv series if you’ve never seen every single episode.
Being someone who has seen every Halloween film I tell people all the time to skip some unless they truly just want to see the entire series.
@@christophergzimbelman9977I don’t understand why you disagree. You can be a fan of something and not see all of them. I am a fan of SpongeBob but have not seen every single episode I don’t need to. I am a fan of a ton of game franchises and I have only played one or two games in the series. I am confused by your statement.
@@sheetmetalcards7987 i read your comment wrong, i thought you said you needed to see everything to be a fan. My bad
I have a hot take for Nightmare on Elms Street... "We shouldn't of found out who Freddy was til the sequel. Sometimes I find it scarier being left unknown, he's just this mysterious boogeyman who's after us and we don't know why.. I mean that's honestly terrifying."
Except freddy isn't real in the original nightmare. Hes a made up monster Nancy put together from her feelings over her parents divorce. Thats why freddys sweater comes from Glen's car. It was all.a dream. That changed when robert shay made craven change the ending. Freddy was always meant to be a 1 and done
@@MM-hf6om interesting
@@MM-hf6omwtf, are you just making that bs up? I’m genuinely curious. How do you explain Johnny depp turning into a blood explosion as “part of a hallucination”
@ChrisThomson-y7l none of that was real originally. That was why Freddy dispersed at the end. But robert shay hated the idea of the whole movie being a dream and made wes change it. Thats why wes wouldn't come back for nightmare 2 . He was mad shay made him change his " vision "
@ while the ending Bob Shay made him create absolutely sucks. The whole movie being a dream would not have done well. Unless your name is Inception, what movie has ever been improved by everything being in a dream?
I can kinda see how you could do it as a figment of her psyche but you get my point
I'm sorta creeped out because I had a thought about doing a Halloween hot takes video and like a minute later, got the notification for this video 😂 I guess my hot take would be Halloween 3 is one of the better sequels lol
keep up the good work Cody!
Halloween H20 is my favorite Halloween movie. It's the first Halloween movie that I watched and I'm a massive Scream fangirl.. so it makes sense lol.
Idk why I love these so much 😂
I’m not here to cheer for the new trilogy, there is way more disappointment in them for me than approval, but the more I have thought about it the more I may agree that it was a planned storyline. The Gordon Green trilogy is an inverted remake of the OG three films. Like John Carpenter’s Halloween, Halloween (2018) has an escaped mental patient return home but instead of stalking Laurie, she flips the script on him. Also, instead of the doctor being here to help, he’s actually a force for evil, too. Halloween Kills, like Halloween II, features a hospital heavily in its plot and Laurie is mostly relegated to inaction, but the inversion has a mob of people face the killer rather than a final girl. And finally, Halloween Ends, like Season of the Witch, is not a Michael Myers film and if you took that element out of it, it would still stand as its own thing. However, unlike Season, Ends shoehorns in the Michael/Laurie dynamic into a movie that is not about Laurie and Michael. There you have it. The Gordon Green trilogy is an inverted remake of the OG three films.
I've grown to admire and like most of Halloween Ends, despite what feels like it's lack of consistency in the trilogy.
25:00 I actually agree that it would be forgotten. Maybe not entirely (it’s impact was too big), but it would not be as regarded as it is and I actually think people would be picking it apart in the same ways that they pick apart the sequels
I do not know if these are hot takes myself but here are my takes on the Halloween movies.
1. The David Gordon green trilogy is the worst trilogy.
2. For how a serial killer is created, Rob Z timeline is the most realistic.
3. Halloween III season of the witch bored me.
4. I would have preferred Danielle Harris as Laurie's daughter in the DGGT along with Josh.
5. I Like H8- Resurrection.
Oh, wow, "Halloween III: Season of the Witch" was boring to you? Wow.
I think Danielle Harris may have been considered but ig they didn’t want to confuse people (more casual fans). Paul Rudd was considered to return as Tommy (like how he was in 6) but he had ghostbusters afterlife
Yes I have watched it over 10 times. I still don't like it much. @@fromtexas2734
@@ChrisThomson-y7lshe would have been awesome.
Let's be honest H2018 was just a compilation of all the best parts of the series. The original story they used was awful.
Did they get everything wrong? No.
So there are things I liked about it.
1. The score, the music in 2018 was awesome. The best score for so long.
2. The atmosphere, one thing that most of the series suffers from is the lack of atmosphere.
3. The Michael Myers.
But for me, the rest of the aspects for me it fails massively.
The biggest is being the Laurie character.
@@philjames8148 I respect your opinion. Though we call agree Michael is a bad mother fucker in that movie
Not a fan of the Dr. Sartain twist, though I can say that it gives an explanation as to how he escaped in 2018, as we do see Sartain sit behind the bus security and he is waiting in the bus when Hawkins shows up on scene. I am kind of excusing the twist.
Would have been cool if they might went somewhere with it though. Then maybe I could get behind the twist.
You really got how I feel about the dawn of the dead movies man I love movies like 28 days later bc of how fast and scary the zombies really are
I respect your opinion, but there is one thing I can’t let slide lol. “Lori strode was a weak final girl until H20” so I guess running on broken ankles, protecting two kids, fighting off Mr. Instant Kill successfully multiple times. Being beaten injured and MEDICATED to the point of barely being conscious and still being smart enough and strong enough to evade MICHAEL MYERS and escaping by putting two bullets in his head just doesn’t count. I don’t understand this take at all. I mean I like Alice and Ginny (though I think Lorie is far better written than Alice) But considering Alice is an admitted clone of Lorie Strode and Ginny I think is about on par with her with that child psychology she was majoring in. I think the OG Halloween is a touch overrated but I think this is a step too far. Note that this comment is not supposed to be hate for you or the comment section. I like using animated language which can get misconstrued when it’s just text. This is meant to be the tone I’d argue over a movie with my friends in, not a “You’re stupid and you should feel Stupid” thing. Love the video. Happy Halloween!
Edit: I also just binged the whole franchise so this came out at the perfect time 👍
She was weak
Tonight for Halloween, I'm watching Halloween (1978) and Halloween 2 (1981). Cody mentioned how H20 makes a terrible mistake of showing his eyes. I'm just noticing tonight after countless times of watching H2 that they show Myers' eyes in that film a well. Sometimes, they black out his eyes but not consistently.