I'd also check out the deaf researchers, too. Some of them are latened-deaf and might not support the Deaf Culture. The deaf researchers should study the hearing people. I would love to know why they consider us burdensome when in reality they are burdensome to us by discriminating and prejudging us, refusing to learn sign language even after we learn to speak, so on. Also I would love to know why they have a bent on their deaf child's ability to hear. I think they are in denial.
I agree with you a full 100 percent because I am 60 yrs old, deaf and went though tough years even though SALK researchers was testing me as like an electrically on my head for maybe 5 hrs.They paid me $15 bucks an hour.Many years Some community tries to tell police,sheriff,school, TV CC, Computer News,stores, etc... about going to ASL and proerty (spell)(feel expressed) They arent motoives yet but some do yay! Thank you
I love to study all cultures, Deaf is another culture that I love because it is so diverse and there is so much to learn and I'm always learning more I'm never bored. I like to learn everything. I do understand your point :) thank you for posting this !
Some things are obviously for self-interest than of course for the betterment of the community. Actually most activities we pursue are selfish. We want a family children a spouse love a career all these aspects are personally driven. How does a person distinguish what a person wants to opposed to things of what you mentioned? I feel confused. I want to become a doctor to help people. Two reasons, I love science and I love humanity. A two way street. I do honestly understand your concern.
@kazakhstanmkj Agreed, self-interest motivates us in many things we do. There is nothing inherently wrong with self-interest, just that it can sometimes be the only reason hearing researchers study Deaf people. That is where we draw the line.
@kazakhstanmkj Very sad story. It sounds like this girl was taken advantage of by the researcher and the system. I hope there was a happier ending down the road. Too many Deaf people get hurt through no fault of their own.
I really wish there were articles on this too! I am trying to write a paper on this topic, but I can't find anything. This is the best thing I have found, but idk if my teacher will accept it. I love what you had to say, and I totally agree with you! I am hearing, but in love with deaf culture and ASL. I am studying to be an interpreter now at RIT/NTID. :-)
Great vlog! Very true!! U Candance ought to write the open letter to the world of academic establishment especially research circles. Several classic examples of research studies went awry like one 1920's research study on Deaf youngsters determined that the high percentage of Deaf people are more likely to be homosexual than hearing counterparts. That study flaw was just the study of three schools of the deaf led to the wrong conclusion about Deaf people's sexuality. Another 1960's research study on the effects of hardcore pornography on the human behavior by recruiting college students, not random subjects especially the diversity of human population.
@iamdakey Definitely, your concerns about bias and validity are well-taken. Still, we think it is equally important to have a Deaf researcher on board when research is focused on Deaf-related topics. Something to think about: why are people, especially hearing people, so quick to assume that a Deaf researcher studying Deaf people is likely to be biased and forsake validity? Where is the same concern about hearing researchers studying Deaf people?
There was this one case in which there was this girl who never learned language from the developmental years. Her mom was deaf. He father tied his daughter to a chair and blind flooded her for most of her developmental years. He was an abusive father. The deaf mum tried to free the daughter. They got help with the social workers. When the socials discovered the strange situation. There were researchers who came in to study about the girl who never develop language.
@Shelllium Thanks for your comment. We're talking about women as a minority group in the sense that woman are more oppressed in society than men - not about the actual numbers of women and men. Hope that clarifies things!
I met a psychologist who was counseling me, that used my information for her own person self-interest, doing private research. I hate these things. I cannot believe it.
wow , you make us very inspirited on your speech perfect and thank you for your explain about it .. i learn something and agree with you should be nice put on name - Hearing or Deaf either ...
I did not know researchers had those types of self-interest. I guess I am silly to believe everyone want to really help.I am supportive of research if it is for like maybe to see if we can regrow a thigh in a science lab to help rebuild back someones body. Those things I can be ok with. Some things I am not like psychological research or things like you mentioned.
They studied if the people who never learned language can learn language ever. They discovered that you can learn a language beyond those years. After the grants were over. The girl was put back into the foster care system. I feel really worried about the girl. I hope she turned out well.Guess what, she the researcher got grants prestige and for promotion, so what would you make of this case?
There's a historical thing that goes back to eugenics - which looked really shiny at the time. 'you can only have babies if you're tall, straight, perfect in all ways'. If you wanted to have grandchildren, your child had to be taught how to look tall, straight, perfect in all ways, and hide every dam' thing that didn't fit.
Dear Adrian, Can you tell me How deaf people understand math like calculus, algebra or higher mathematics ? And when they prepare their lesson from book do they use sign language ?
@ASCDEAF Okay, thank you for your response. I want to continue viewing your channel. I feel a little nervous about outsiders. I will be in Hong Kong studying more about HK sign language. They have a research centre there. I want to be cautious of them. The director of the centre, she is not deaf herself.
@kazakhstanmkj I am sorry that your psychologist used your information without your permission. Any psychologist who uses information from work should change personal/identiable information so nobody will recognize who the person is. If it is too recognizable, permission is required.
I'd also check out the deaf researchers, too. Some of them are latened-deaf and might not support the Deaf Culture.
The deaf researchers should study the hearing people. I would love to know why they consider us burdensome when in reality they are burdensome to us by discriminating and prejudging us, refusing to learn sign language even after we learn to speak, so on. Also I would love to know why they have a bent on their deaf child's ability to hear. I think they are in denial.
I agree with you a full 100 percent because I am 60 yrs old, deaf and went though tough years even though SALK researchers was testing me as like an electrically on my head for maybe 5 hrs.They paid me $15 bucks an hour.Many years Some community tries to tell police,sheriff,school, TV CC, Computer News,stores, etc... about going to ASL and proerty (spell)(feel expressed) They arent motoives yet but some do yay! Thank you
I love to study all cultures, Deaf is another culture that I love because it is so diverse and there is so much to learn and I'm always learning more I'm never bored. I like to learn everything. I do understand your point :) thank you for posting this !
Some things are obviously for self-interest than of course for the betterment of the community. Actually most activities we pursue are selfish. We want a family children a spouse love a career all these aspects are personally driven. How does a person distinguish what a person wants to opposed to things of what you mentioned? I feel confused. I want to become a doctor to help people. Two reasons, I love science and I love humanity. A two way street. I do honestly understand your concern.
great another educator to look at! look forwarding to your educational issues via vlogs!
@kazakhstanmkj Agreed, self-interest motivates us in many things we do. There is nothing inherently wrong with self-interest, just that it can sometimes be the only reason hearing researchers study Deaf people. That is where we draw the line.
@kazakhstanmkj Very sad story. It sounds like this girl was taken advantage of by the researcher and the system. I hope there was a happier ending down the road. Too many Deaf people get hurt through no fault of their own.
I really wish there were articles on this too! I am trying to write a paper on this topic, but I can't find anything. This is the best thing I have found, but idk if my teacher will accept it. I love what you had to say, and I totally agree with you! I am hearing, but in love with deaf culture and ASL. I am studying to be an interpreter now at RIT/NTID. :-)
Great vlog! Very true!! U Candance ought to write the open letter to the world of academic establishment especially research circles. Several classic examples of research studies went awry like one 1920's research study on Deaf youngsters determined that the high percentage of Deaf people are more likely to be homosexual than hearing counterparts. That study flaw was just the study of three schools of the deaf led to the wrong conclusion about Deaf people's sexuality. Another 1960's research study on the effects of hardcore pornography on the human behavior by recruiting college students, not random subjects especially the diversity of human population.
@iamdakey Definitely, your concerns about bias and validity are well-taken. Still, we think it is equally important to have a Deaf researcher on board when research is focused on Deaf-related topics. Something to think about: why are people, especially hearing people, so quick to assume that a Deaf researcher studying Deaf people is likely to be biased and forsake validity? Where is the same concern about hearing researchers studying Deaf people?
There was this one case in which there was this girl who never learned language from the developmental years. Her mom was deaf. He father tied his daughter to a chair and blind flooded her for most of her developmental years. He was an abusive father. The deaf mum tried to free the daughter. They got help with the social workers. When the socials discovered the strange situation. There were researchers who came in to study about the girl who never develop language.
@Shelllium Thanks for your comment. We're talking about women as a minority group in the sense that woman are more oppressed in society than men - not about the actual numbers of women and men. Hope that clarifies things!
I met a psychologist who was counseling me, that used my information for her own person self-interest, doing private research. I hate these things. I cannot believe it.
Thank you for sharing what you went through.
wow , you make us very inspirited on your speech perfect and thank you for your explain about it .. i learn something and agree with you should be nice put on name - Hearing or Deaf either ...
I did not know researchers had those types of self-interest. I guess I am silly to believe everyone want to really help.I am supportive of research if it is for like maybe to see if we can regrow a thigh in a science lab to help rebuild back someones body. Those things I can be ok with. Some things I am not like psychological research or things like you mentioned.
They studied if the people who never learned language can learn language ever. They discovered that you can learn a language beyond those years. After the grants were over. The girl was put back into the foster care system. I feel really worried about the girl. I hope she turned out well.Guess what, she the researcher got grants prestige and for promotion, so what would you make of this case?
There's a historical thing that goes back to eugenics - which looked really shiny at the time. 'you can only have babies if you're tall, straight, perfect in all ways'.
If you wanted to have grandchildren, your child had to be taught how to look tall, straight, perfect in all ways, and hide every dam' thing that didn't fit.
Dear Adrian,
Can you tell me How deaf people understand math like calculus, algebra or
higher mathematics ? And when they prepare their lesson from book do they use sign language ?
@ASCDEAF Okay, thank you for your response. I want to continue viewing your channel. I feel a little nervous about outsiders. I will be in Hong Kong studying more about HK sign language. They have a research centre there. I want to be cautious of them. The director of the centre, she is not deaf herself.
Thanks for posting!!! Good points!...only question about male majority female minority ;o) Ha ;o) 50-50? Take care!! SH hearing terp
I wish there were subtitles - I'm okay in BSL, but I just don't know that much ASL, don't know if what I'm seeing is 'hard' or 'pointless'.
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Amen!
@kazakhstanmkj I am sorry that your psychologist used your information without your permission. Any psychologist who uses information from work should change personal/identiable information so nobody will recognize who the person is. If it is too recognizable, permission is required.