A world full of drugs, violence, and the decay of human intelligence. Learn about LISA's roots in this Retrospective and Review. Nitro Rad on Facebook - bit.do/NitroRad...
My favourite choice in this game is the one where Buzzo tells you that you either kill 3 of your party members or he... cuts off one of Buddy's nipples. What's good about this choice is, that it's the only choice in the game, where one of the choices has absolutely no impact on the gameplay (as far as I can tell) and the other is the WORST (gameplay) choice to make by far, because you probably have your favourite team with you and you'll lose ALL of them. There's no reason at all to kill your party members. And yet it feels... wrong. It feels horrible to let Buzzo cut off her nipple. What is worse is that you get it as an item. And it's a horrible item at that.
+The Drunken Coward Even though I had my favorite crew with me, I found it very hard to make that call. Ultimately, I couldn't kill off my men for a piece of skin. But I still felt like shit for it. I had to keep Olan, Harvey, and Bo alive a little longer...
+The Drunken Coward I actually let him kill them on my first run, and they were my favorite party. Buzzo called me a piece of shit, and I had to agree with him.
"It'll kick in your teeth and piss in your mouth, leaving a taste that's unpleasant, yet strangely addicting." - Nitro Rad Is there something you want to tell us, Nitro?
I love Brad’s design. He looks so tough and aggressive but when he looking down, slouched, or laying down he looks sad and somber, like when he is up and ready to go he wants to show his tough side so he can look intimidating, while when he is alone and or walking around without wanting a fight he shows his true colors, a sad lonely boy that gets picked on and bullied.
You missed a few things. You can take fall damage from being on the bike, it just has to be from a higher place for you to take damage. The withdrawal effect happens regardless of whether you take Joy or not. You're kinda forced to take it anyway. The importance of the cliffs being where they are is that you need to pay attention to what you're doing, and treat it with a pair of tweezers. [SPOILERS] Quite an assumption to make that he doesn't care about anyone else other than his second chance. I always just saw it that he didn't want everyone to take advantage of her, as he explains towards the end of the game. I don't like how people hate on Brad, like it was his fault for anything that's happened to him. Sure, he took Joy, but it was because he wanted to stop feeling miserable. I'm sure there's a lot of people who share my sentiment. I, for one wasn't satisfied with the poor ending that Brad met. Poor soul.
Also during the entire time, even since he was a karate teacher, Bernard Buttfart (Buzzo) was torturing him. He blamed brad for lisa’s death, and when he found buddy, it was actually buzzo setting her there, just to help buzzo torture brad.
[SPOILERS] Even during her hallucinations it seems deep down Buddy realizes Brad did care about her during your fight with him, the part where he starts healing her as she rips into him is heartbreaking.
I loved this game so much when I played it in June. Between this game and Undertale, it's been a great year for Earthbound-esque RPG's. You've earned my subscription, I like your work.
I wish point and click games got a return. They were so unique and interesting. Or the return of 3d platformers! Rayman 4 with the same passion as Rayman 3, were already getting Psychonauts 2 in 2018 so why not more. But Oneshot is coming to steam so play that when it comes out, it's an rpg game too. In the mean time you can play through OFF and write down every word the judge says that you don't understand
Adam Nasser Virgin Joel Miller - wastes so much ammo on zombies - wins fights with brute force - doomed humanity because of his guilt Chad Joel Miller - Has ONE bullet and never uses it - wins fights with mind games - helped a total stranger to escape from the place he called home for years
@Тити Мити When u fight Roland it, he asks Joel to reconsider leaving as he has been on the island for as long as the elders there, to which Joel responds ,”I’ve got what I came for...I don’t know what keeps the rest of you here.”
I just finished this game and here's some advice for people who want this game: Even if it means looking at a walkthrough, try to 100% everything on your first go, the bad ending leaves you so empty inside. The game gives you a warning for the point of no return, so I'd recommend looking at a walkthrough at that moment.
Wow, you've really sold me on this game! I've re-written this comment about 5 times trying to find the words to explain how impressed i am with what you've shown but I just can't find the right words. I'm not even a fan of RPG maker games (although I do enjoy your review quite a lot) or turn based combat for that matter, but after seeing what this game has to offer I have a strong urge to play what may become a classic
SPOILERS Another incorrect statement: "I'm not talking permadeath or anything, because when a character falls you can just revive them." I'm guessing you didn't come across any of the numerous mutants that, yes, CAN cause permadeath! They literally wipe out your character. It's a lot rarer and happens later in the game but it's totally 100% possible.
I meant "Not permadeath" as in if a character dies, they don't permanently stay dead. Death being inflicted, wiping out the member forever, is a separate, different thing.
NitroRad Oh yeah, I mean not in every instance but permadeath is definitely possible for your characters in battle (the status effect "dead", caused by some attacks like Fatal Chomp). It's not just something that can happen in cutscenes. I think saying it doesn't happen in general kinda understates just how unforgiving the game it.
1:39 To quote Queen: "Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?" This definitely looks to be right up my alley, especially given the choices seem to have a greater impact beyond "Good/Bad Route/Ending." So few games ever get that right.
Gotta imagine how hard it must have been to code in all the systems unique to Lisa... For those wondering, RPG Maker VX Ace's standard systems function similarly to an old Dragon Quest game. Top down visuals, and when battle hits, the enemy is right in front of you. Now, they obviously kept the second part as is, but the change from the small top-down map to a much larger sidescroller map, and the addition of a combo system... That must have taken a while to code in.
Trust me, making a side-scrolling game in RPG Maker is insanely difficult. Hell, making a simple RPG game can also be hard, depending on what you want done.
Man your videos are so timeless bro I had this vid playing in the background while I was drawing and then I heard you say “the best game of 2014” I was like wait w h at the editing and overall video quality has definitely gotten way better but your audio and voiceover and script (is that the right thing? Probably) is just so good istg I would’ve thought you made this vid this year if it wasn’t for you mentioning it’s 2014 but anyways ima listen to some more of your videos till I finish this drawing hope you have a good day or night m8
11:52 and onward is spot-on in terms how there's no grinding and it's all exploration-based Exp, I truly had the most fun looking at something new in every corner.
Hey Nitro Rad, love rewatching your videos covering the Lisa series, hope you make more videos of these with the Definitive Editions of The Painful and The Joyful
0:19 when I heard this tune I got chills and almost started crying. God, this game left such an impact on me that even hearing first 2 seconds from it's OST makes me so emotional
My friend bought me this game after I told him I played through Undertale. I definitely wasn't expecting what I got from LISA. I haven't completed it yet, it's one of those games I have to wait to play, because I don't want to fall into a spiraling depression. 10/10 game, made me want to hang myself. (Honestly, go play it, it's awesome).
It has been over a year since I subscribed to your channel, and yesterday I finished the last of the LISA games you've reviewed (I played First, Painful, Joyful, Pointless and Hopeful). I'm so happy that I discovered these games and your channel and it's so heartwarming that you are gradually being recognized. Not really a fan of top-down rpg games, but LISA series games click so well with my gaming tastes, it's awesome to discover a game you've never heard of and have a grand time playing it.
Having finished this game a few weeks back i gotta say...its pretty solid. A pretty damn good game with memorable characters and a very...very painful story. After beating it....i really cant say how much i love it. Best rpgmaker game hands down.
Nitro, I was looking for a review of Lisa, because Somecallmejohnny mentioned it, well i went and typed "Lisa" into the search bar, found a video with a decent amount of views and after watching a couple of minutes into the video, you have a new subscriber! Nitro you have whats needed to become as popular as Somecallmejohnny.
GUYS THIS GUY LOVES THE GAME IF YOURE INTERESTED IN BUYING IT JUST BUY IT DONT WATCH THIS REVIEW HE SPOILS A LOT ABOUT THE GAME Not story wise but visually, theres lots of enemies, characters, situations, etc in the game that he shows off. Big reason for me loving this game is because I got it as a recommendation so I had no idea what to expect and everything thats meant to be a funny, creepy, etc surprise remained as a surprise. This review however shows off a lot of that and Im sure if I would of seen this review before playing the game I wouldn't of enjoyed the game as much as I did on my first play through.
Tbh I missed almost all the aide stuff and ploughed through the game and got the shit ending I thought I had explored just about all of the game if I didn't have see that all the side stuff existed I would just be confused. Maybe I'm just stupid for not finding all the good stuff but I kind of needed it spoiled to feel motivated to retry it
SPOILERS: Brad wants to keep the baby because his first child, Rando, turned out to be a failure in Brad's eyes. He saw Buddy as a second chance at parenting.
TheDarkSpion Huh, I always saw Brad as loving Rando a lot, and he felt like he failed to protect Rando when he got hurt, so he thought that Buddy was his second chance at being a father, hence his EXTREMELY protective attitude. Then again, I’ve never actually played the game, it’s just the impression I got from lore videos.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 I doubt that, seeing as in a secret ending in the game you get to see Rando (pre flash obviously) with his face sawed off by Buzzo in the dojo. And Brad just fucking leaves. Walks out. Abandons his son right then and there.
Snowdrop Unicorn y’know, that’s a good point. It just dawned on me that maybe, just maybe Brad might be just a teeny tiny slight smidge of a shitty parent.
by god nitro, idk what it is but you have the secret formula to a perfect video. THIS is how the video reviews of the future will be. I love me some jontron or avgn as much as the next guy. but what you've got here has so much more value and depth. it's not all funny (though it can be.) and you're playing games that have legitimately touched you, even if those videos won't get as many clicks. just keep doing it man. you have made me hooked to silent hill now I want you to know that. now you're introducing me to a whole new world I've never explored in the rpg maker realm. point is your videos are gold. I actually skipped game theory and went straight to you in the subscription feed. GAMETHEORY DUDE. 10/10 Nitro keep up the great work.
Ahhhhhh good ol' Nitro Rad, for some reason I always come back to this video or the SH4 one. Entertained every time. Though this is old, keep on goin' Nitro Rad!
Nitro, this was the video that made me decide to subscribe to you. Not just because I also love Lisa, but because of how well put-together and thorough this overview/review was. Your videos are great, keep it up.
I'm really digging your channel, you have strong content and choose some really good games..Most importantly, its games you choose to reviews. I try to do this same thing and only talk about games I choose and not the ones that everyone does!!! Respect!!!
I really loved Lisa. The Earthbound vibe was really great not only in the "quirky" way, but in the way that the game presents itself. The text/prose that was not expository, but like a friend telling you something. Great humor, too, so the more dense stuff hits really harder. It was inspiring, too. If one man could do all that through only effort (and still having a life outside of the programming, like, having other hobbies) everyone could do it, too.
You're good at making videos, this is the first one I've seen, but your voice isn't annoying, it's fun to watch, and as far as I can tell you make enough videos for people to keep comin back and support you. It's odd because I feel like someone like you should have more subs
I finally got around to playing this game and it is one of my new favorite games of all time. Thank you for introducing me to it and have a great life.
for me NV was just way too easy on you, i never had money problems in that game even though i bought a lot of stuff from that high end weapons trader in vegas. also the wasteland in NV just didnt really feel that desolate to me. it just looked way too clean for me
I changed my name sry but iv got to agree with yukari I played on survival and had way more money than I needed and I never did side quests unless I had to
Great review! I just recently bought the game and finished it today. It's much better experience than what we see on movies, for sure. The game's emotional aspect really relate to the Mother games, for sure.
ive been told about your reviews for a long time and i wish i had watched this years ago, lisa matters so much to me. my favorite game of all time 8) also so happy to see a favorite companion of mine mentioned here
I’m not sure if you’d still be interested in making a lisa video nowadays but there is an updated version coming out with brand new content (likely story and gameplay wise) for painful and joyful. You’ve probably already heard that part though, I just wanted to show my support for the idea of a video about it. Would love a return to this (ahem) franchise and I’d certainly give it a watch through if i saw it in my sub feed.
This is probably my third time watching this review. I mean, this is a really good review and I like it how you go in depth with the game mechanics and such. You did an out standing job with this one. Say have you ever heard of Barkley's Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden?
playing this game made me step back from the pressure of choosing the “right” path in a video game, and simply just choose things to experience the story in my own unique way. A lot of the times I was worrying if giving up certain party members would hinder me in the future, but I slowly accepted that I would have to make choices and they probably all have very interesting outcomes. I’ve never experienced that acceptance in an indie RPG before. It’s very clever
In the ending and secret ending there's a glitch If you obtained the degrading clothes, you can still put it on after Brad turned into a joy mutant (SO THERES AN EASIER CURE) and in the secret ending, you can climb up the building if you press up in a certain spot with the degrading clothes in the secret ending, and you can walk to the side (AND SOMEHOW FLY)
I thought that "joy" was a reference to anti depressants and how it makes you feel numb, yet people sometimes call it a "happy pill". at least that's how i intereperted it.
As great of a game it is, that whole “Guaranteed to ruin your life” thing really does scare off a lot of people. In fact, I’m the only person I know who digs Lisa and the closest thing my friends would say about it is “Oh, is it that one f’d up game? Not interested“ or “Nah it doesn’t look like my cup of tea”. I mean don’t get me wrong, Lisa has a story full of virtually nothing but tragedy and even I was scared of trying it for months because of the horror stories I’ve heard from it until the curiosity drove me mad enough to give in. But it would be nice if more people were more courageous and I could have friends that I could talk about LISA all I want with.
The beginning is so good, "When I ask you what your favorite post apocalyptic game is, what's your answer? The vast majority of people would easily say fallout 3 without any second thought, but to me *music plays* the answer to that question will always be LISA."
@@gygiselysse6372 because LISA has a deeper meaning, deeper plot, better characters... is a better game. Undertale has its strenghts - the dynamic battle system and the music, but LISA is just simply better in many people's opinions.
Just played lisa the painful/joyful thru after seeing this video years ago. Never had a proper pc so when i saw it on switch it was an immediate purchase. Gah damn. Easily one of the most impactful inspiring pieces of media I've consumed. Already can't wait to play thru again. Thank you based nitro rad & dingaling🙏🏻
Speaking of characters that's also one of the unique aspects, since the only repeating enemies are wildlife and those shadowy figures, along with reusing some Rando Soldier skins. Other than those every enemy is unique, with their own names.
you know, the Joy thing reminds me a lot of the Abominations from darkest dungeon. They have a move that turns them into a gruesome beast, it has better moves and better damage but using it increases the stress of your allies, I feel like you don't see a lot of risk/reward items/abilities in games that often.
Man been a long time that I havent seen any of your videos and Im so happy to do so as I didint got the bell notifications on I was always ucrious to view more from your channel
Sad thing for me. My growing up was just like Brad's. My mother is better now. I went through abusing boyfriend after abusive boyfriend. Sister going through shit (not rape, thank God.) I ran into the most abusive boyfriend of my mom. And told him to fuck off. He made my life hell. I'm personally glad he's on the run from the cops. Fucking Travis. But thankfully, I discovered your channel around this time of my life. You helped me go through life more optimistic-like. I thank you. You also introduced me to all my favorite games. We all love ya James. Don't ever stop doing what you do. You have any inspired me in every way possible! I know you won't see this but I just wanted to throw it out there.
you know, after seeing this review ages ago. finally playing the game after so long, i get it now, everything that he said, its strange to think that i played this game that ive been wanting to play for like 5 years ago now. I even looked up some other lisa fangames to play as i assumed there were more then 2, and there was, i hope you review this sometimes as those 4 videos have always been seen by me as your best videos you've made.
12:40 Because it's easier on the developer's part. Think of yourself as the maker of the game. Would you rather make a lot more bosses with unique designs and details or just raise the HP on an already existing boss?
...Shit, man. This the first video I've seen from you and... Damn. I don't ever admit to something like this, but I wish I could look like you. o-o'" Aside from that this review was very well done with great editing, sound quality, and overview. Plus you actually reviewed LISA, which in and of itself is worthy of points. Subbed.
God I saw dunkey play this and it looked so light hearted and I bought it I came out a different man I can't listen to anything that sounds like the lisa sound track without feeling both happiness and pure sorrow
I went back to this review after playing the most recent edition that came out on console. Also a free upgrade for people who already purchased it on steam. AND native controller support. Played it on the steam deck and loved it. Please revisit this edition along with the new dlc and tell us how you feel!! Cheers nitro!
Good review, but in the wrestling area, you can farm all you want (I did it, actually, I leveled everyone in my party until they learned they last skill, except seven characters, because they entered my party too late, or I didn't found them) and recieve 2000 XP everytime you win. Luckily it's a really late area, and guess what, I expended 9 hours for four or five more important fights!
Aqua Jet Really sad actually that so many oportunities get's wasted for using a program like that (don't get me wrong, I love RPG Maker and his games).
After trawling a large number of Lisa streams over the years, I've made a key discovery. No matter how simple and intuitive your tutorials are, people *will not* understand them. The amount of people I see playing this game (even after reading the tutorial) and NOT using combos throughout the entire playthrough is infuriating. Not only that, but the bicycle tutorial goes over most people's heads too. The amount of people I've seen never get on the bike after getting it, immediately dismount and walk back, or get on the bike then jump vertically down from the platform, completely missing the most basic tutorial ever, is astounding. This is why long, drawn out, forced tutorials have become the norm. People just cannot comprehend quick "tip" style tutorials OR environmental tutorials.
ooo this EXP systems reminds me of Epic Battle Fantasy 5, i played the whole game without having to farm exp (you can farm exp and you gain good exp but it's not needed.) it was a blast. I really need to play lisa.
My party i us (that is amazing) is, Jack - magic guy, Birdie - drunk guy, Nerd - you know that son of a bitch. Magic guy/Jack does damage to an entire party and does fire damage he and Birdie are by far my favorite. =]
My favourite choice in this game is the one where Buzzo tells you that you either kill 3 of your party members or he... cuts off one of Buddy's nipples.
What's good about this choice is, that it's the only choice in the game, where one of the choices has absolutely no impact on the gameplay (as far as I can tell) and the other is the WORST (gameplay) choice to make by far, because you probably have your favourite team with you and you'll lose ALL of them.
There's no reason at all to kill your party members.
And yet it feels... wrong. It feels horrible to let Buzzo cut off her nipple. What is worse is that you get it as an item. And it's a horrible item at that.
+reggiardito Maybe it makes flash less successfull. (insert lenny)
+The Drunken Coward Even though I had my favorite crew with me, I found it very hard to make that call. Ultimately, I couldn't kill off my men for a piece of skin. But I still felt like shit for it. I had to keep Olan, Harvey, and Bo alive a little longer...
+The Drunken Coward
I actually let him kill them on my first run, and they were my favorite party.
Buzzo called me a piece of shit, and I had to agree with him.
+The Drunken Coward You're on every Lisa video I watch. You must like the game as much as I do.
HammerMC Lol it should also make the enemy nauseous or something
"It'll kick in your teeth and piss in your mouth, leaving a taste that's unpleasant, yet strangely addicting." - Nitro Rad
Is there something you want to tell us, Nitro?
YES
I swore to God I was the only person who really thought about that line-
he thinks addiction is a good thing
Nitro Rad Piss Kink
ikr??? 🤨
Giorno moment.
I love Brad’s design. He looks so tough and aggressive but when he looking down, slouched, or laying down he looks sad and somber, like when he is up and ready to go he wants to show his tough side so he can look intimidating, while when he is alone and or walking around without wanting a fight he shows his true colors, a sad lonely boy that gets picked on and bullied.
You're tearing me apart, LISA!
I DID NOT HIT HER! IT'S NOT TRUE, I DID NOT HIT HER!... I DID NAAAWT... Oh hi Mark.
@Jayden Santiago YOU'RE LIYING
ow LISA why’d you hit me
You're tearing my Lisa apart!!
Why are you so hysterical?!
*First screen is a girl hanging herself*
WELL AREN’T WE IN FOR A TREAT
Ramen Boodles JUST A BARREL FULL O’ LAUGHS
It IS called 'The Painful RPG.'
WELL THIS IS JUST WONDERFUL INNIT?
I kept terry hintz throughout the whole game....be proud of me
Terry is the best character
Swam Eni he gets better during the end
He's really fun
I'm so proud of you
...For forcing Terry to attack his only and best friend
Swam Eni he’s one of the strongest character in end game
My fav post apocalyptic game is Splatoon
LmAo MINES TOO
😂💦💦💦👌👌
Same
@Abrilla 2 M Imagine being this desperate for an argument.
@Abrilla 2 M yes it is but we still like it. Thats your opinion tho and i respect that :)
Delete this comment before i commit discombobulate.
You missed a few things.
You can take fall damage from being on the bike, it just has to be from a higher place for you to take damage.
The withdrawal effect happens regardless of whether you take Joy or not. You're kinda forced to take it anyway.
The importance of the cliffs being where they are is that you need to pay attention to what you're doing, and treat it with a pair of tweezers.
[SPOILERS]
Quite an assumption to make that he doesn't care about anyone else other than his second chance. I always just saw it that he didn't want everyone to take advantage of her, as he explains towards the end of the game.
I don't like how people hate on Brad, like it was his fault for anything that's happened to him. Sure, he took Joy, but it was because he wanted to stop feeling miserable.
I'm sure there's a lot of people who share my sentiment. I, for one wasn't satisfied with the poor ending that Brad met.
Poor soul.
Also during the entire time, even since he was a karate teacher, Bernard Buttfart (Buzzo) was torturing him. He blamed brad for lisa’s death, and when he found buddy, it was actually buzzo setting her there, just to help buzzo torture brad.
i think he also missed the fact that joy is what causes mutation
[SPOILERS]
Even during her hallucinations it seems deep down Buddy realizes Brad did care about her during your fight with him, the part where he starts healing her as she rips into him is heartbreaking.
only monsters refuse to let Buddy hold Brad at the end
Late but you can actually beat the game without joy, you're not forced to take it, it's a meaningless choice but still it's your choice.
This deep, dark, depressingly realistic and horrifying game was made by a guy called Dingaling.
Dingaling. That is bloody hilarious.
Damn this really was one big Simpsons joke….Hilarious!
I loved this game so much when I played it in June. Between this game and Undertale, it's been a great year for Earthbound-esque RPG's.
You've earned my subscription, I like your work.
I wish point and click games got a return. They were so unique and interesting. Or the return of 3d platformers!
Rayman 4 with the same passion as Rayman 3, were already getting Psychonauts 2 in 2018 so why not more.
But Oneshot is coming to steam so play that when it comes out, it's an rpg game too. In the mean time you can play through OFF and write down every word the judge says that you don't understand
@@magnusm4 i've gone through a whole notebook
“What’s your favorite Post-apocalyptic game”
Me: Kirby 64
WHY IS THERE A "ME:"
Wait wtf your right
@@megamichael4021 *you're
@@originaluseername does it even matter
Its the same word
@@megamichael4021 your, you're ARE NOT THE SAME DAMN THING
Very cool, I didn't know about this game. Going to have to check it out. :)
did you have fun?
I appreciate the :-) face =]
So?
Please, never stop making baseball analogies. They're just too good!
7 years later and I can say the analogies hit a home run…?
The Last of Us: I can make people sad.
Lisa the Painful RPG: hold my beer
Last of us Is pussy shit in terms of making you feel depressed and frustrated (in a good way) compared to LISA
And then there's the original lisa
lisa the pointless: our joel miller is better
Adam Nasser
Virgin Joel Miller
- wastes so much ammo on zombies
- wins fights with brute force
- doomed humanity because of his guilt
Chad Joel Miller
- Has ONE bullet and never uses it
- wins fights with mind games
- helped a total stranger to escape from the place he called home for years
@Тити Мити
When u fight Roland it, he asks Joel to reconsider leaving as he has been on the island for as long as the elders there, to which Joel responds ,”I’ve got what I came for...I don’t know what keeps the rest of you here.”
This video introduced me to my personal favorite game of all time
A special thanks from terr-bear to you, nitro rad!
Same
I just finished this game and here's some advice for people who want this game: Even if it means looking at a walkthrough, try to 100% everything on your first go, the bad ending leaves you so empty inside. The game gives you a warning for the point of no return, so I'd recommend looking at a walkthrough at that moment.
+Nixondough bruh there is no good ending of this game lol. no matter what you do its gonna b soul crushing
NO DON'T DO THIS IF ANYONE'S READING THIS, it's better to not do everything first because when you finish this game you'll definitely wanna replay it.
ALSO LEAVE TERRY ALIVE AND KEEP HIM
Bad ending?
Srirachhaa This was a joke comment
LISA is so underrated. The music is great, the characters are so likable, and it’s so unique. It’s easily one of my favourite games.
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No. Good game design.
"Fun" is not an adjective that I would associate with Lisa.
"you need to do side missions and roam around to get exp"
2 seconds later
"YOU WASTE LESS TIME"
this game made me stop play JRPG they're too long and usually the story is not worth your time,
This game was a wild ride. The choices were hard and I had to take a break at one point to ponder on what choice to make. And there were little tears!
Wow, you've really sold me on this game! I've re-written this comment about 5 times trying to find the words to explain how impressed i am with what you've shown but I just can't find the right words. I'm not even a fan of RPG maker games (although I do enjoy your review quite a lot) or turn based combat for that matter, but after seeing what this game has to offer I have a strong urge to play what may become a classic
cool
What did you think of it?
SPOILERS
Another incorrect statement:
"I'm not talking permadeath or anything, because when a character falls you can just revive them."
I'm guessing you didn't come across any of the numerous mutants that, yes, CAN cause permadeath! They literally wipe out your character. It's a lot rarer and happens later in the game but it's totally 100% possible.
I meant "Not permadeath" as in if a character dies, they don't permanently stay dead. Death being inflicted, wiping out the member forever, is a separate, different thing.
NitroRad Oh yeah, I mean not in every instance but permadeath is definitely possible for your characters in battle (the status effect "dead", caused by some attacks like Fatal Chomp). It's not just something that can happen in cutscenes. I think saying it doesn't happen in general kinda understates just how unforgiving the game it.
Only one mutant can kill you party members permanently
Buzz0 Hahahah tell that to my 3 dead Nern's I restarted so he wouldn't die because without him I would have not been able to continue
Buzz0
Actually, Beady, Johnathan, Peter, Hawk, and Herb can.
Satan, Former Friend, Human Hawk, and Kim Sex Machine can permakill as well.
1:39
To quote Queen: "Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?"
This definitely looks to be right up my alley, especially given the choices seem to have a greater impact beyond "Good/Bad Route/Ending." So few games ever get that right.
Gotta imagine how hard it must have been to code in all the systems unique to Lisa...
For those wondering, RPG Maker VX Ace's standard systems function similarly to an old Dragon Quest game. Top down visuals, and when battle hits, the enemy is right in front of you. Now, they obviously kept the second part as is, but the change from the small top-down map to a much larger sidescroller map, and the addition of a combo system... That must have taken a while to code in.
Trust me, making a side-scrolling game in RPG Maker is insanely difficult. Hell, making a simple RPG game can also be hard, depending on what you want done.
Man your videos are so timeless bro
I had this vid playing in the background while I was drawing and then I heard you say “the best game of 2014” I was like wait w h at
the editing and overall video quality has definitely gotten way better but your audio and voiceover and script (is that the right thing? Probably) is just so good istg I would’ve thought you made this vid this year if it wasn’t for you mentioning it’s 2014
but anyways ima listen to some more of your videos till I finish this drawing
hope you have a good day or night m8
11:52 and onward is spot-on in terms how there's no grinding and it's all exploration-based Exp, I truly had the most fun looking at something new in every corner.
"I'm addicted to piss" - Nitro Rad
Hey Nitro Rad, love rewatching your videos covering the Lisa series, hope you make more videos of these with the Definitive Editions of The Painful and The Joyful
0:19 when I heard this tune I got chills and almost started crying. God, this game left such an impact on me that even hearing first 2 seconds from it's OST makes me so emotional
My friend bought me this game after I told him I played through Undertale. I definitely wasn't expecting what I got from LISA. I haven't completed it yet, it's one of those games I have to wait to play, because I don't want to fall into a spiraling depression. 10/10 game, made me want to hang myself. (Honestly, go play it, it's awesome).
So? Do you finish it?
12:00 "there is no grinding in this game"
Me: laughs in silhouettes in caves, snakes in grass, and purple snakes in swamp
Yeah but it’s not worth it to grind those enemies though
idk having a sweep attack on brad is worth it for me since you don't get access to people like fardy or fly for quite a bit
I couldn't finish this game.
It was seriously starting to hurt me around the later half of Area 2.
+Clownpiece that's a shame the game and his dlc are hidden gems
Juan GG If that's the case, then this gem has some really sharp edges.
yeah the gameplay its not so great,but the way that the story develops is good in my opinion
Juan GG Not in that way.
I mean, it's a well designed game. In fact, it's nearly perfect.
It's just... kind of painful to play.
Yes Dingaling uses the term ``painful``as a selling point to the game.
It has been over a year since I subscribed to your channel, and yesterday I finished the last of the LISA games you've reviewed (I played First, Painful, Joyful, Pointless and Hopeful). I'm so happy that I discovered these games and your channel and it's so heartwarming that you are gradually being recognized.
Not really a fan of top-down rpg games, but LISA series games click so well with my gaming tastes, it's awesome to discover a game you've never heard of and have a grand time playing it.
Having finished this game a few weeks back i gotta say...its pretty solid. A pretty damn good game with memorable characters and a very...very painful story. After beating it....i really cant say how much i love it. Best rpgmaker game hands down.
Nitro, I was looking for a review of Lisa, because Somecallmejohnny mentioned it, well i went and typed "Lisa" into the search bar, found a video with a decent amount of views and after watching a couple of minutes into the video, you have a new subscriber!
Nitro you have whats needed to become as popular as Somecallmejohnny.
+PanzarMetal THIS COMMENT SHOWED UP IN THE NOTIFICATIONS THE SECOND HE SAID THE WORD "Lisa" WHEN I WAS WATCHING HIS LATEST VIDEO
THE CHANCES
GUYS THIS GUY LOVES THE GAME IF YOURE INTERESTED IN BUYING IT JUST BUY IT DONT WATCH THIS REVIEW HE SPOILS A LOT ABOUT THE GAME
Not story wise but visually, theres lots of enemies, characters, situations, etc in the game that he shows off. Big reason for me loving this game is because I got it as a recommendation so I had no idea what to expect and everything thats meant to be a funny, creepy, etc surprise remained as a surprise. This review however shows off a lot of that and Im sure if I would of seen this review before playing the game I wouldn't of enjoyed the game as much as I did on my first play through.
Thank you so much!
Solrac you saved me :')
Solrac Mooooooooonica!
This is exactly how i played it and i also warn my friends to not research it
Tbh I missed almost all the aide stuff and ploughed through the game and got the shit ending I thought I had explored just about all of the game if I didn't have see that all the side stuff existed I would just be confused. Maybe I'm just stupid for not finding all the good stuff but I kind of needed it spoiled to feel motivated to retry it
Thanks for covering it. Discovered your channel recently and your reviews are amazing!
SPOILERS:
Brad wants to keep the baby because his first child, Rando, turned out to be a failure in Brad's eyes. He saw Buddy as a second chance at parenting.
TheDarkSpion Huh, I always saw Brad as loving Rando a lot, and he felt like he failed to protect Rando when he got hurt, so he thought that Buddy was his second chance at being a father, hence his EXTREMELY protective attitude.
Then again, I’ve never actually played the game, it’s just the impression I got from lore videos.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 I doubt that, seeing as in a secret ending in the game you get to see Rando (pre flash obviously) with his face sawed off by Buzzo in the dojo. And Brad just fucking leaves. Walks out. Abandons his son right then and there.
Snowdrop Unicorn y’know, that’s a good point.
It just dawned on me that maybe, just maybe Brad might be just a teeny tiny slight smidge of a shitty parent.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 just a smidge. Just an itty bitty little bit of a horrible father.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 like father like son
Great review for a great game.
Why?
Elmaso Wtf??
by god nitro, idk what it is but you have the secret formula to a perfect video. THIS is how the video reviews of the future will be. I love me some jontron or avgn as much as the next guy. but what you've got here has so much more value and depth. it's not all funny (though it can be.) and you're playing games that have legitimately touched you, even if those videos won't get as many clicks. just keep doing it man. you have made me hooked to silent hill now I want you to know that. now you're introducing me to a whole new world I've never explored in the rpg maker realm. point is your videos are gold. I actually skipped game theory and went straight to you in the subscription feed. GAMETHEORY DUDE. 10/10 Nitro keep up the great work.
Ahhhhhh good ol' Nitro Rad, for some reason I always come back to this video or the SH4 one. Entertained every time. Though this is old, keep on goin' Nitro Rad!
#lisaBetterThanUndertale.
#NobodyCares
#HesRightTho
#YesHeIs
#asmuchasifoundundertaletobeagoodgamelisawillalwaysbebetter
#whyareyoucomparingtoverydifferentgamesfornoreasonandusinghashtagsonyoutube
I've heard good things about this game. Good to see you review it!
6:06 Ah I see you're playing the patched version with the insta-kill cliff being clearly pointed out to you.
Nitro, this was the video that made me decide to subscribe to you. Not just because I also love Lisa, but because of how well put-together and thorough this overview/review was. Your videos are great, keep it up.
I'm really digging your channel, you have strong content and choose some really good games..Most importantly, its games you choose to reviews. I try to do this same thing and only talk about games I choose and not the ones that everyone does!!! Respect!!!
I really loved Lisa. The Earthbound vibe was really great not only in the "quirky" way, but in the way that the game presents itself. The text/prose that was not expository, but like a friend telling you something. Great humor, too, so the more dense stuff hits really harder.
It was inspiring, too. If one man could do all that through only effort (and still having a life outside of the programming, like, having other hobbies) everyone could do it, too.
"When i asked you what your favorite post-apocalyptic game, what's your answer?" Splatoon.
i cannot wait for a lisa definitive edition video
What's your op team?
Joy taken terry, bride, carp
No joy: oland, fly , Harvey
Painfull: TBT
Terry, Nern and Olan ftw VwV
Birdie, Terry, Mad Dog. Ultimate Fire-based team.
Olan buckets and fly.
Fucking fight me.
Or buckets fly and Gareth
*garth SHIET
You're good at making videos, this is the first one I've seen, but your voice isn't annoying, it's fun to watch, and as far as I can tell you make enough videos for people to keep comin back and support you. It's odd because I feel like someone like you should have more subs
my favorite party member is bo wyatt,, hes so cute and cool and i like his guitar attacks
I finally got around to playing this game and it is one of my new favorite games of all time. Thank you for introducing me to it and have a great life.
Fallout 3 instead of NV ? Smh
for me NV was just way too easy on you, i never had money problems in that game even though i bought a lot of stuff from that high end weapons trader in vegas.
also the wasteland in NV just didnt really feel that desolate to me. it just looked way too clean for me
@@yukariyoshisaki6333 The money thing I highly disagree with, but the to clean thing it's supposed to look like that.
I changed my name sry but iv got to agree with yukari I played on survival and had way more money than I needed and I never did side quests unless I had to
The game wasn't out the time this video was made.
@@LeemVonNelly I'm playing on survival and I still have money problems
17:40 "The taste of pizz is unpleasant yet strangely addicting"
*HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?*
Great review! I just recently bought the game and finished it today. It's much better experience than what we see on movies, for sure. The game's emotional aspect really relate to the Mother games, for sure.
ive been told about your reviews for a long time and i wish i had watched this years ago, lisa matters so much to me. my favorite game of all time 8)
also so happy to see a favorite companion of mine mentioned here
I’m not sure if you’d still be interested in making a lisa video nowadays but there is an updated version coming out with brand new content (likely story and gameplay wise) for painful and joyful. You’ve probably already heard that part though, I just wanted to show my support for the idea of a video about it. Would love a return to this (ahem) franchise and I’d certainly give it a watch through if i saw it in my sub feed.
he said he isnt going to do a lisa video any time soon
I love your vids, man. Was searching for small channels one day, and found yous. You were actually originally unlike the other 1.3 million.
This is probably my third time watching this review. I mean, this is a really good review and I like it how you go in depth with the game mechanics and such. You did an out standing job with this one. Say have you ever heard of Barkley's Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden?
playing this game made me step back from the pressure of choosing the “right” path in a video game, and simply just choose things to experience the story in my own unique way. A lot of the times I was worrying if giving up certain party members would hinder me in the future, but I slowly accepted that I would have to make choices and they probably all have very interesting outcomes. I’ve never experienced that acceptance in an indie RPG before. It’s very clever
In the ending and secret ending there's a glitch
If you obtained the degrading clothes, you can still put it on after Brad turned into a joy mutant (SO THERES AN EASIER CURE) and in the secret ending, you can climb up the building if you press up in a certain spot with the degrading clothes in the secret ending, and you can walk to the side (AND SOMEHOW FLY)
One of my favourite videos in this whole site, period.
I thought that "joy" was a reference to anti depressants and how it makes you feel numb, yet people sometimes call it a "happy pill". at least that's how i intereperted it.
You are the reason I found one of my favorite games of all time.
This game was so dark I love it.
As great of a game it is, that whole “Guaranteed to ruin your life” thing really does scare off a lot of people. In fact, I’m the only person I know who digs Lisa and the closest thing my friends would say about it is “Oh, is it that one f’d up game? Not interested“ or “Nah it doesn’t look like my cup of tea”.
I mean don’t get me wrong, Lisa has a story full of virtually nothing but tragedy and even I was scared of trying it for months because of the horror stories I’ve heard from it until the curiosity drove me mad enough to give in. But it would be nice if more people were more courageous and I could have friends that I could talk about LISA all I want with.
LISA: the life ruining game
I hope you do an episode on Joyful as well... that shit was so fucked up and I loved it.
The beginning is so good, "When I ask you what your favorite post apocalyptic game is, what's your answer? The vast majority of people would easily say fallout 3 without any second thought, but to me *music plays* the answer to that question will always be LISA."
Are you going to review LISA: The Joyful when it comes out?
Ooooh! This is exactly the kind of dark game I need. The mechanics and story are do compelling! Thanks for the recommendation!
😉👍
i played every ounce of content in undertale but just recently bought LISA and i already feel like it's better than undertale ten-fold
Why?
@@gygiselysse6372 because LISA has a deeper meaning, deeper plot, better characters... is a better game. Undertale has its strenghts - the dynamic battle system and the music, but LISA is just simply better in many people's opinions.
Both games are master pieces
sleepy cabbiege true
Just played lisa the painful/joyful thru after seeing this video years ago. Never had a proper pc so when i saw it on switch it was an immediate purchase. Gah damn. Easily one of the most impactful inspiring pieces of media I've consumed. Already can't wait to play thru again. Thank you based nitro rad & dingaling🙏🏻
I got kidnapped? Crap
These novelty accounts are so fuvking corny
Carp*
Speaking of characters that's also one of the unique aspects, since the only repeating enemies are wildlife and those shadowy figures, along with reusing some Rando Soldier skins. Other than those every enemy is unique, with their own names.
you know, the Joy thing reminds me a lot of the Abominations from darkest dungeon. They have a move that turns them into a gruesome beast, it has better moves and better damage but using it increases the stress of your allies, I feel like you don't see a lot of risk/reward items/abilities in games that often.
Man been a long time that I havent seen any of your videos and Im so happy to do so
as I didint got the bell notifications on I was always ucrious to view more from your channel
Sad thing for me. My growing up was just like Brad's. My mother is better now. I went through abusing boyfriend after abusive boyfriend. Sister going through shit (not rape, thank God.) I ran into the most abusive boyfriend of my mom. And told him to fuck off. He made my life hell. I'm personally glad he's on the run from the cops. Fucking Travis. But thankfully, I discovered your channel around this time of my life. You helped me go through life more optimistic-like. I thank you. You also introduced me to all my favorite games. We all love ya James. Don't ever stop doing what you do. You have any inspired me in every way possible! I know you won't see this but I just wanted to throw it out there.
(PS: can you cover Crash Bandicoot?)
Watching a fresh review made by nitro ,god rest his soul.
Come back, boy. They made the DE.
I can’t believe this game is already six years old. One of my all-time favorites, and that includes indie and AAA.
Hot dude: check
Likes LISA: check
Man I love you
you know, after seeing this review ages ago. finally playing the game after so long, i get it now, everything that he said, its strange to think that i played this game that ive been wanting to play for like 5 years ago now. I even looked up some other lisa fangames to play as i assumed there were more then 2, and there was, i hope you review this sometimes as those 4 videos have always been seen by me as your best videos you've made.
12:40 Because it's easier on the developer's part.
Think of yourself as the maker of the game.
Would you rather make a lot more bosses with unique designs and details or just raise the HP on an already existing boss?
Ah yes a classic nitro rad video. This is the first video I saw on your channel and I've been hooked ever since.
5/5 - classic nitro rad
...Shit, man. This the first video I've seen from you and... Damn. I don't ever admit to something like this, but I wish I could look like you. o-o'"
Aside from that this review was very well done with great editing, sound quality, and overview. Plus you actually reviewed LISA, which in and of itself is worthy of points.
Subbed.
Same
God I saw dunkey play this and it looked so light hearted and I bought it I came out a different man I can't listen to anything that sounds like the lisa sound track without feeling both happiness and pure sorrow
Oh hey, this was released on my birthday.
Rewatching this masterpiece while lisa definitive edition drops🙏🏽🔥💯💯🔥🙏🏽
That “trial” of fl studio is actually a version with a hacked key. He had access to the full thing he had to of.
I went back to this review after playing the most recent edition that came out on console. Also a free upgrade for people who already purchased it on steam. AND native controller support. Played it on the steam deck and loved it. Please revisit this edition along with the new dlc and tell us how you feel!! Cheers nitro!
DUDE MAKE A NEW VIDEO WITH THE DEFINITIVE EDITION
Probably one of the best games I seen featured on your channel thanks for showing it Rad :)
Good review, but in the wrestling area, you can farm all you want (I did it, actually, I leveled everyone in my party until they learned they last skill, except seven characters, because they entered my party too late, or I didn't found them) and recieve 2000 XP everytime you win.
Luckily it's a really late area, and guess what, I expended 9 hours for four or five more important fights!
That's really if you just want to be op honestly.
Aqua Jet It would be fun that the party members' level affected the ending battle where happens what you know with them.
HeantradXD Yeah it would be but remember, It's in rpg maker. It can only do so much.
Aqua Jet Really sad actually that so many oportunities get's wasted for using a program like that (don't get me wrong, I love RPG Maker and his games).
HeantradXD Yeah.
After trawling a large number of Lisa streams over the years, I've made a key discovery.
No matter how simple and intuitive your tutorials are, people *will not* understand them. The amount of people I see playing this game (even after reading the tutorial) and NOT using combos throughout the entire playthrough is infuriating. Not only that, but the bicycle tutorial goes over most people's heads too. The amount of people I've seen never get on the bike after getting it, immediately dismount and walk back, or get on the bike then jump vertically down from the platform, completely missing the most basic tutorial ever, is astounding. This is why long, drawn out, forced tutorials have become the norm. People just cannot comprehend quick "tip" style tutorials OR environmental tutorials.
Nitro Rad review LISA: The Timeless and LISA: The Unbreakable
ooo this EXP systems reminds me of Epic Battle Fantasy 5, i played the whole game without having to farm exp (you can farm exp and you gain good exp but it's not needed.) it was a blast. I really need to play lisa.
you didn't mention the amazing soundtrack in the game
>4 Years Late
Galaxius imcluding shardy’s shanty that shit’s my jam
I started this game with both my arms and a smile on my face. I left with none of these.
My party i us (that is amazing) is,
Jack - magic guy,
Birdie - drunk guy,
Nerd - you know that son of a bitch.
Magic guy/Jack does damage to an entire party and does fire damage he and Birdie are by far my favorite. =]
this is the type of game you never forget