I've also fallen in love with the work of Paul Sellers this last month. I found it by serendipity and the saw sharpening tutorials actually knocked my socks off. I did however learn elsewhere that sharpening a saw that has hardened teeth, as you briefly mention, will actually ruin that saw. I feel that Paul Sellers' channel and yours compliment each other so well, so having Paul in the workshop could be a serious potent learning experience for all of us "students" out here... Thank you so much for the time and willingness you put into teaching us so much.
I watch Paul sellers all the freaking time! I want to see two videos! Paul Sellers and you build a guitar in you shop and then you and Paul build furniture at Paul sellers shop for the second video!!
One tip... run a sharpie down the edge of the blade before you start. This makes the whole process easier and faster as you can easily see which teeth have been sharpened.
Hey Ben, since you asked for tips and tricks..., I usually rub beeswax on the blade for lubrication before and while using it. I find it makes a huge difference in the cut efficiency and quality. I wouldn't be surprised if it also extends the life of the blade. I know it's not an earth-chattering tip but definitely practical. Cheers!
I'm glad it was useful Ben, I wasn't sure how "obvious" or not this trick was... I also apply beeswax on my band saw blade, especially for ripping large boards. Turn on the machine, rub some beeswax to the blade and start cutting, apply more as needed.
When learning to sharpen a saw, get a regular 4-10 tpi saw first, preferably ripcut. Don't start with a fine toothed saw. It is much easier to see what happens and keep things in control with bigger teeth. A fine toothed narrow saw can almost as well be sharpened straight ripcut and used for both rip and crosscut, but for a dedicated fret saw a crosscut pattern like Ben shows here is a bit better. It is not a bad idea to use a marker to higlight every other tooth so you know which ones to file. And magnifying goggles are a great tool, especially if your eyes are past their best before date.
I used a magnifying glass to look at the filing angle of the teeth on the fret saw from Lee Valley Tools and it seems they are filed at zero degrees, or at 90 degrees to the saw blade.
Hey Ben, why not create a little jig which goes on top of the saw vice, traveling on channels on either side, with a little ratchet action "tooth" so you can feel how many saw teeth you went over, the jig would then rotate to whatever angle you needed, at the top, with a guard so you could lean the file against, and because it's on rails it would stay true
Clamp it in a vice? What about a good old bench hook? Wait a bit... saws that cut on the draw need back-to-front inside-out bench hooks. Ferrry interestink. Goodnight, Lucy.
demantoid depends on lots of things, hardness of wood, type of saw etc. I suggest sharpen your saw, get a feel for a sharp saw, then re-sharpen when it doesn't feel like that any more. Experience will teach you then
Now you can sell asking tape, printed with slanted lines, at the pitch and angle needed for the saw. And you need two rolls, one for each angle (I am only half joking).
Still baffled that people buy jigs to sharpen their saw! Did your only saw get sooooo blunt that you couldn't cut a few pieces of wood to make a simple jig yourself!!???!??
That's one of the things I love best about Ben in these videos, he never knows what the fuck it is he's doing until he does it.
I've also fallen in love with the work of Paul Sellers this last month. I found it by serendipity and the saw sharpening tutorials actually knocked my socks off. I did however learn elsewhere that sharpening a saw that has hardened teeth, as you briefly mention, will actually ruin that saw. I feel that Paul Sellers' channel and yours compliment each other so well, so having Paul in the workshop could be a serious potent learning experience for all of us "students" out here... Thank you so much for the time and willingness you put into teaching us so much.
Fleaming heck! 45 years woodworking and I never knew that. Makes so much sense, thanks Ben.
I watch Paul sellers all the freaking time! I want to see two videos! Paul Sellers and you build a guitar in you shop and then you and Paul build furniture at Paul sellers shop for the second video!!
well done for mentioning Paul Sellers. the man's a great UA-camr with loads of skills and knowledge.
nice of you ti put Sellers in the description, he is a master and Will be useful to many of those Who did not know him
I like watching you cross eyed, it doubles the fun.
Ben, not to be rude or anything , but you make Ronnie Corbett's monologues sound concise and to the point haha !
I'm a Paul Sellers's fan too 😄
One tip... run a sharpie down the edge of the blade before you start. This makes the whole process easier and faster as you can easily see which teeth have been sharpened.
thank you Ben i have used oven cleaner on heavy pitched tools it works great
"I have my tools" - It's okay, Ben. You can call James a friend.
Nice vid. Nice audio. You should do one on how to sharpen fingernails by scraping them down a blackboard.
Hey Ben, since you asked for tips and tricks..., I usually rub beeswax on the blade for lubrication before and while using it. I find it makes a huge difference in the cut efficiency and quality. I wouldn't be surprised if it also extends the life of the blade. I know it's not an earth-chattering tip but definitely practical. Cheers!
Awesome, thank you, I use a similar thing on inlay/jewelers saws and never thought that that would also apply to standard cutting. B
I'm glad it was useful Ben, I wasn't sure how "obvious" or not this trick was...
I also apply beeswax on my band saw blade, especially for ripping large boards. Turn on the machine, rub some beeswax to the blade and start cutting, apply more as needed.
When learning to sharpen a saw, get a regular 4-10 tpi saw first, preferably ripcut. Don't start with a fine toothed saw. It is much easier to see what happens and keep things in control with bigger teeth. A fine toothed narrow saw can almost as well be sharpened straight ripcut and used for both rip and crosscut, but for a dedicated fret saw a crosscut pattern like Ben shows here is a bit better. It is not a bad idea to use a marker to higlight every other tooth so you know which ones to file. And magnifying goggles are a great tool, especially if your eyes are past their best before date.
I used a magnifying glass to look at the filing angle of the teeth on the fret saw from Lee Valley Tools and it seems they are filed at zero degrees, or at 90 degrees to the saw blade.
Hey Ben, why not create a little jig which goes on top of the saw vice, traveling on channels on either side, with a little ratchet action "tooth" so you can feel how many saw teeth you went over, the jig would then rotate to whatever angle you needed, at the top, with a guard so you could lean the file against, and because it's on rails it would stay true
You should definitely invite @PaulSellersWoodwork to come build a guitar!
music and dancing go together Ben, get down wit cha bad self
So what about re-setting the kerf? My Lee Valley, Pax fret saw seems to cut slots too tight lately.
Well you could make a hoola skirt from plane shavings. :P
I think you would look lovely!
I wasn't expecting a luau :D
Clamp it in a vice? What about a good old bench hook?
Wait a bit... saws that cut on the draw need back-to-front inside-out bench hooks.
Ferrry interestink. Goodnight, Lucy.
how often do you sharpen files and how do ya do it?
demantoid depends on lots of things, hardness of wood, type of saw etc. I suggest sharpen your saw, get a feel for a sharp saw, then re-sharpen when it doesn't feel like that any more. Experience will teach you then
Paul Sellers is awesome.
Would this work for a Veritas dovetail saw? I have no idea if these can be sharpened...
Rodrigo Meza yes
FLEAM xD yes, that is now my new favorite word.
no offense dude but i love falling asleep watching your videos.
Just subscribed to Paul's channel, just as well give it a go.
Now you can sell asking tape, printed with slanted lines, at the pitch and angle needed for the saw. And you need two rolls, one for each angle (I am only half joking).
I thought these saws were disposable lol
Didn't think you could sharpen them
Paul seller's has the most knowledge on woodworking on youtube please go and find him.
the way he says 10 times xD
I'm sorry, I hate clicking away in the middle of videos because it hurts your stats, but I just couldn't handle the sound of the file on the teeth :/
Still baffled that people buy jigs to sharpen their saw! Did your only saw get sooooo blunt that you couldn't cut a few pieces of wood to make a simple jig yourself!!???!??
Ben you should have washed your hands after using the rest room. it appears as though you have poked your finger thru the paper.